Day 1: First Blood

[FM Wile E Coyote]

Did I really just write perky instead of pesky?
....

ANYWAY.

[FM The Terminator]

For those of you who misunderstood, we wait until AFTER we have every possible feedback claim before hypoclaiming.

Frog, do you think there would be a point in also hypoclaiming scum?

[FM Robin Hood]

Now, does anyone have anything actually USEFUL to say?

[Inspector Cluseau]

Did I really just write perky instead of pesky?
....

ANYWAY.

<---
>mfw when I've got a perky road runner

[FM The Terminator]

Oh! I know! Let's have all of the citizen claim "Sheriff", and all of the Sheriffs claim "Citizen"!

Captain obvious is needed for this...

[FM Kermit]

Town:


Citizens:

1-Citizen
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
6-Citizen
7-Citizen
8-Citizen
11-Citizen
12-Citizen
13-Citizen
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen
21-Citizen
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
26-Citizen
27-Citizen
28-Citizen
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia
32-Citizen
33-Citizen
36-Citizen
37-Citizen
38-Citizen
41-Citizen
42-Citizen

Power roles:
4-Sheriff
34-Sheriff
9-Doctor
14-Vigilante
24-Blacksmith
19-Escort
29-Doctor
39-Jailor




Mafia:


10-God Father
5-Mafioso
40-Mafioso
15-Consort
25-Consigliere
30-Framer


Neutrals:


20-Serial Killer
35-Witch


Yo, you may find this helpful.

[FM Robin Hood]

Now, does anyone have anything actually USEFUL to say?

By that, I mean, do we have any leads?

[FM The Terminator]

Now, does anyone have anything actually USEFUL to say?

Lots of useful has been said.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Now, does anyone have anything actually USEFUL to say?

start of day, claim feedbacks, regardless of what actually happened to you, lol.
mid day, claim your prior night action.
end day, claim your upcoming night action.

You are scum as hell if you don't like that plan.

[FM Agahnim]

Town:


Citizens:

1-Citizen
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
6-Citizen
7-Citizen
8-Citizen
11-Citizen
12-Citizen
13-Citizen
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen
21-Citizen
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
26-Citizen
27-Citizen
28-Citizen
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia
32-Citizen
33-Citizen
36-Citizen
37-Citizen
38-Citizen
41-Citizen
42-Citizen

Power roles:
4-Sheriff
34-Sheriff
9-Doctor
14-Vigilante
24-Blacksmith
19-Escort
29-Doctor
39-Jailor




Mafia:


10-God Father
5-Mafioso
40-Mafioso
15-Consort
25-Consigliere
30-Framer


Neutrals:


20-Serial Killer
35-Witch


Yo, you may find this helpful.

The fact that there have been two other people to do this before you makes you seem scummy.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

day starts. claim any feedback.
mid day. claim all power roles and what you did as them.
end day. claim all power roles and what you will do tonight.

Day starts and mid day are correct.

However I don't think the third one is useful at all though. We just want to provide the bare bones minimum amount of information in our hypothetical claims in order to have pr night action results in the event of a pr dying and flipping pr in the graveyard.

Ideally, the mass of hypo claims would be too large and overwhelming (and convincing) for the mafia to sort through and determine anything useful about linkage of players to pr roles.

[FM The Terminator]

Town:


Citizens:

1-Citizen
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
6-Citizen
7-Citizen
8-Citizen
11-Citizen
12-Citizen
13-Citizen
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen
21-Citizen
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
26-Citizen
27-Citizen
28-Citizen
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia
32-Citizen
33-Citizen
36-Citizen
37-Citizen
38-Citizen
41-Citizen
42-Citizen

Power roles:
4-Sheriff
34-Sheriff
9-Doctor
14-Vigilante
24-Blacksmith
19-Escort
29-Doctor
39-Jailor




Mafia:


10-God Father
5-Mafioso
40-Mafioso
15-Consort
25-Consigliere
30-Framer


Neutrals:


20-Serial Killer
35-Witch


Yo, you may find this helpful.

Seriously, you can stop with this. We don't need one on every page.

[FM Cookie Monster]

For those of you who misunderstood, we wait until AFTER we have every possible feedback claim before hypoclaiming.

Frog, do you think there would be a point in also hypoclaiming scum?

Hypoclaiming scum is probably a bad idea.. it will cause sheriff mis-checks and mis-lynches easily

[FM Dracula]

I have something important to share. I received a vest last night.

[FM Yoda]

Now, does anyone have anything actually USEFUL to say?

In the end, cowards are those who follow the dark side.

[FM Kermit]

I was just trying to help yo.
#swag tweet it

[FM Agahnim]

Scum List:
Yoda
Rubber Ducky
King Arthur

[FM Cookie Monster]

Day starts and mid day are correct.

However I don't think the third one is useful at all though. We just want to provide the bare bones minimum amount of information in our hypothetical claims in order to have pr night action results in the event of a pr dying and flipping pr in the graveyard.

Ideally, the mass of hypo claims would be too large and overwhelming (and convincing) for the mafia to sort through and determine anything useful about linkage of players to pr roles.

If we ought to go with this everybody needs to do it seriously = think about what you are claiming before saying it, it also bears a big risk to town PRs

[Inspector Cluseau]

Scum List:
Yoda
Rubber Ducky
King Arthur

Nah, Arthur should be fine.

[FM Cookie Monster]

I have something important to share. I received a vest last night.

WiFOM

[FM Master Chef]

You people post too much. 1 hour = 9 pages.

[FM Robin Hood]

Scum List:
Everybody except FM Robin Hood
Everyone except FM Robin Hood
Nobody who isn't FM Robin Hood

[FM Agahnim]

Nah, Arthur should be fine.

Key word: Should be.

He is a target of interest.

[Inspector Cluseau]

If we ought to go with this everybody needs to do it seriously = think about what you are claiming before saying it, it also bears a big risk to town PRs

I did some math. If we can use it to hide PRs it will work fine at that. It just might confuse them. We have at least 5 nights before Town loses. So, if PRs can find anything real in that time then we can stop.

[FM Robin Hood]

You people post too much. 1 hour = 9 pages.

I know, right?

[Inspector Cluseau]

You people post too much. 1 hour = 9 pages.

solution- more posts per page.

[FM Cookie Monster]

You people post too much. 1 hour = 9 pages.

Oh because discussing is bad
Noted

[FM Robin Hood]

You people post too much. 1 hour = 9 pages.

By the end of the day, we'll be at page 1000000.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Robin Hood and Master Chef are scum.

[FM Cookie Monster]

I did some math. If we can use it to hide PRs it will work fine at that. It just might confuse them. We have at least 5 nights before Town loses. So, if PRs can find anything real in that time then we can stop.

It's 33 vs (6+2)
How can we even lose in 5 nights

[Inspector Cluseau]

It's 33 vs (6+2)
How can we even lose in 5 nights

'at least' was factoring if Vigs and Jailors go to town on... well town.

[FM Cookie Monster]

It's 33 vs (6+2)
How can we even lose in 5 nights

Actually if the Vigilante + Jailor + Lynches fail everyday we can.. but I doubt that will happen

[FM Robin Hood]

Robin Hood and Master Chef are scum.

Liar! You're a random lynching crackpot!

-vote FM Inspector Cluseau

[FM King Arthur]

I doth not see how this hypothetical claim will serve the kingdom better than it will serve the spawn of evil, for they will be capable of finding all PRs much more quickly by sharing any night feedback they receive and comparing it to claims they read during the day. This doth not only apply to sheriffs, but also to the escort, blacksmith and gaoler.

Twould not be a problem if associated feedback was not claimed until after the target's death. Twould be different if we had a detective or lookout, but alas we have neither.

Why doth thou request these feedback claims to be made along with thine hypothetical claim plan?

If a vigilante shot is made, role blocks are claimed, blacksmith materials are claimed to have been received, jailed people claim in the first 24 hours of day, you should insert that information into your hypo claim list.

I would think it better to use either or.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Liar! You're a random lynching crackpot!

-vote FM Inspector Cluseau

I SUSPECT EVERYONE!

[FM Cookie Monster]

I doth not see how this hypothetical claim will serve the kingdom better than it will serve the spawn of evil, for they will be capable of finding all PRs much more quickly by sharing any night feedback they receive and comparing it to claims they read during the day. This doth not only apply to sheriffs, but also to the escort, blacksmith and gaoler.

Twould not be a problem if associated feedback was not claimed until after the target's death. Twould be different if we had a detective or lookout, but alas we have neither.

Why doth thou request these feedback claims to be made along with thine hypothetical claim plan?

I would think it better to use either or.

There are no last wills, we have no way of knowing what the PR (especially sheriff) do when they die. We NEED that information

[FM Michigan J Frog]

@Michigan
Ah I see, I think it's a viable idea.
Should the REAL PR be honest about their actions?
I agree with this plan. Who else wants to do it?

I think all PR's should be honest about their actions and all citizens should try their hardest to come up with believable pr claims (especially who they call out as inno/suspicious). This is the only way it's useful for the town.

What about, say, an escort who ends up roleblocking the mafia killer but is killed by the serial killer that same night? We should have everyone also claim an action for the upcoming night. Perhaps Cluscum's idea is the best one?

I still don't think pre-emptively claiming night actions is a good idea since it helps scum figure out who the real pr's are. Any possible advantages of that are negated by the possible harms imo.

For those of you who misunderstood, we wait until AFTER we have every possible feedback claim before hypoclaiming.

Frog, do you think there would be a point in also hypoclaiming scum?

There is absolutely no reason to hypo claim as scum unless you're scum trying to convey your consig results/etc. At least, I don't see any benefit to it.

[FM The Terminator]

Day starts and mid day are correct.

However I don't think the third one is useful at all though. We just want to provide the bare bones minimum amount of information in our hypothetical claims in order to have pr night action results in the event of a pr dying and flipping pr in the graveyard.

Ideally, the mass of hypo claims would be too large and overwhelming (and convincing) for the mafia to sort through and determine anything useful about linkage of players to pr roles.

The argument for claiming the upcoming night actions is that something important may happen. Jailor actions, doctor actions, escort actions, and lookout actions could all be important preclaims in case the player dies that night.

Another pro of the idea: If a lot of people preclaim lookout actions on a town player, the scum are less likely to kill him. If a citizen preclaims an investigation on a scum, they might just kill him, saving an important power role and giving us further clues.

[FM Robin Hood]

WE WENT TWO MINUTES WITH NO COMMENTS!? UNACCEPTABLE!!!

*shoots Inspector Cluseau*

[Inspector Cluseau]

The argument for claiming the upcoming night actions is that something important may happen. Jailor actions, doctor actions, escort actions, and lookout actions could all be important preclaims in case the player dies that night.

Another pro of the idea: If a lot of people preclaim lookout actions on a town player, the scum are less likely to kill him. If a citizen preclaims an investigation on a scum, they might just kill him, saving an important power role and giving us further clues.

Terminator knows what is up. Please, everyone, do this.

[Inspector Cluseau]

WE WENT TWO MINUTES WITH NO COMMENTS!? UNACCEPTABLE!!!

*shoots Inspector Cluseau*

Yes. Chocolates make one very thirsty.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Ok to simplify it, am I correct in saying this as what you want us to do frog?
1. Claim all Roleblocks/Witched/Healed+Attacked/Blacksmith ( should we be honest about this? )
2. Hypo claim all actions (Sheriff+Doctor+Vigi+Escort+Blacksmith+Jailor), and their respective feedbacks, if any. With town PR's being honest and Citizen trying their best to seem like a town PR

[FM King Arthur]

There be no lookout. And by the by come to think of it, not claiming feedback would just give the scum even more information than it giveth us. For they can remain silent during daytime. Hmm.

[Inspector Cluseau]

I think all Citizens need to claim feedback as well. Or else scum can track down real future action claims.

[FM The Terminator]

There be no lookout. And by the by come to think of it, not claiming feedback would just give the scum even more information than it giveth us. For they can remain silent during daytime. Hmm.

If someone outright refuses to hypo, we can lynch them. Simple.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Or to claim a matching Escort/Jailor/Smith claim they see. This will allow PRs to take their picks of covers.

[FM The Terminator]

I think all Citizens need to claim feedback as well. Or else scum can track down real future action claims.

As in, claim roleblocked even if you weren't? Or just prehypoclaim like I'm suggesting?

[Inspector Cluseau]

As in, claim roleblocked even if you weren't? Or just prehypoclaim like I'm suggesting?

Both

[FM Gandalf]

I think that the future claiming + faking feedback sounds like a terrible idea. Should stick to truthful feedback only + hypo claiming the previous night.

[FM Agahnim]

Scum List:
Yoda
Rubber Ducky
Jack Sparrow


Suspected:
Jack Sparrow - Me - Reason: Possible Consig.

Evidence: began his post with an RP:

do what you want cause a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

Then posted again with:

-vote FM Lucutus

Every day we need to lynch. He is the only Star trekk universe character.

Dropping the RP and placing a vote with a half cocked BS fake logic post of town needing to lynch every day. the lower cased d in his first post makes be believe he is a Consig that is telling his scum buddies in code what his results reveled about whoever he targeted. Notice how he uses all lower case letters in his first post but in his second he uses proper sentence structure. Obvious Code is obvious.

-vote FM Jack Sparrow