Day 1: First Blood

[Inspector Cluseau]

The panther is winking evilly...

Yes. Said the Terminator.

[FM Kermit]

Kermit has claimed Citizen.

Yo.

[FM The Terminator]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[Inspector Cluseau]

Strong, the Darkside has become.
Noticed have I, the difficulty in Immersion.
If you, certain scum, are gonna RP as Yoda. Do it right/

Btw. Agahnim is confirmed Town.

[FM King Arthur]

Tis rather simple to claim citizen with all the rabble in this town. It means naught.

[FM Captain Obvious]

Kermit has claimed Citizen.

Hey! That's my job!!!!!!

[FM The Terminator]

Yes. Said the Terminator.

Do you have a point? Inscumtor? Scumspector? Inspecscum? Scumseau? Cluscum?
I think the last one is the best...

[FM Cookie Monster]

Yay avatar!
The role list seperate thread is inacurate now *sadface*
I hate tabs.. brb making role list for easy reference

[FM The Terminator]

Tis rather simple to claim citizen with all the rabble in this town. It means naught.

You're the king? I didn't vote for you...

[FM King Arthur]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Was this question meant for Sir Yoda?

[Inspector Cluseau]

Tis rather simple to claim citizen with all the rabble in this town. It means naught.

King Arthur has claimed Jailor.

[FM The Terminator]

Town:

1-Citizen
2-Citizen
3-Citizen
4-Sheriff
6-Citizen
7-Citizen
8-Citizen
9-Doctor
11-Citizen
12-Citizen
13-Citizen
14-Vigilante
16-Citizen
17-Citizen
18-Citizen
19-Escort
21-Citizen
22-Citizen
23-Citizen
24-Blacksmith
26-Citizen
27-Citizen
28-Citizen
29-Doctor
31-Citizen: FM Yehat - Killed by the Mafia
32-Citizen
33-Citizen
34-Sheriff
36-Citizen
37-Citizen
38-Citizen
39-Jailor
41-Citizen
42-Citizen



Mafia:

40-Mafioso
25-Consigliere
15-Consort
10-GodFather
5-Mafioso
30-Framer

Neutrals:

35-Witch
20-Serial Killer



Made for better viewing and organization

Here you go, Cookie Monster.

[FM Dracula]

Hello all. The amount of accusations being thrown around are too damn high to count. A ha ha.

[FM Master Chef]

I think this fits my name better.

[FM Captain Obvious]

Hello all. The amount of accusations being thrown around are too damn high to count. A ha ha.

Hahahah cause you're COUNT Dracula!

[FM King Arthur]

do what you want cause a pirate is free! You are a pirate!

Take that back or thou shalt earn a flogging!

[FM Yoda]

Hello all. The amount of accusations being thrown around are too damn high to count. A ha ha.

Corruption, you are part of.

[FM The Terminator]

King Arthur has claimed Jailor.

Cluscum has claimed [REDACTED].

Future edit: This hasn't happened yet.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Is anybody else worried about the no-last-wills-mechanic?
It’s ok. I’ve thought about it, and here’s how we’re going to deal with it:

Roles are revealed upon death so we are all going to hypo (hypo = hypothetical claim) night actions as each town power role in the game every day. Since days are 48 hours long, any feedback claims if they are to be made should come in the first 24 hours of day, and all hypo claims should come in the last 24 hours of each day.

List of all town power roles in the game:
Sheriff
Doctor
Vigilante
Escort
Blacksmith
Doctor
Sheriff
Jailor

If a vigilante shot is made, role blocks are claimed, blacksmith materials are claimed to have been received, jailed people claim in the first 24 hours of day, you should insert that information into your hypo claim list.

Here is an example of how to hypo:

I’m sheriff, and last night I got an inno/guilty (choose one!) on _________.
I’m jailor and I jailed ________ (insert name of the guy who was jailed).
I’m escort who blocked __________ (insert name of the guy who claimed blocked).
I’m vigilante and I shot _____________ (insert name of the guy who died to the vigi shot).
I’m any other town power role and I visited __________.

Basically hypos serve a dual purpose:
1. If a town power role dies, we know what their previous night actions were and can access this information even though we do not have last wills.
2. It locks scum into a corner if they decide to fake claim a power role at a later date, as they are forced to essentially construct their fake claim for the duration of the whole game.

The benefits to the hypo strategy strongly outweigh the cons, and here is why:
Con #1. People often don’t use hypo’s because scum can use false guilties or inno’s in sheriff results to narrow down their list of potential sheriffs.

Rebuttal: With this strategy, the mafia will be able to narrow down a list of names as NOT sheriff, but then they may avoid hitting other unconfirmable PR’s like doctors, etc. We can also use the WIFOM involved in the night kills to our advantage to try to reverse-engineer who the mafia are. Lastly, the benefits to town of knowing PR night actions (since we do not have last wills) strongly outweighs the benefits to mafia of using hypo claims to hunt pr’s.

Con #2. Present your questions or concerns about this plan in the thread so we can discuss further.

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If we are to proceed with this plan, it involves full cooperation of all parties. Everyone must hypo. I can even formulate a nice template for people to use.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Cluscum has claimed [REDACTED].

Future edit: This hasn't happened yet.

Cluscum has claimed Blacksmith.

[FM Gandalf]

Dracula, you should change your avatar, since there's another player here who actually is Count von Count.

[FM Robin Hood]

Cluscum has claimed [REDACTED].

Future edit: This hasn't happened yet.

ROFL!

[FM The Terminator]

Hello all. The amount of accusations being thrown around are too damn high to count. A ha ha.

Stop. There's already a goddamn Count von count. Don't RP like that please.

You're gonna be too hard to keep track of.
And too hard to count.

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
A HA HA!
HASTA LA VISTA, BABY!

[FM The Terminator]

Dracula, you should change your avatar, since there's another player here who actually is Count von Count.

ninja'd

[Inspector Cluseau]

I’m sheriff, and last night I got an inno on Agahnim.
I’m jailor and I jailed Kermit.
I’m escort who blocked Gandalf.
I’m vigilante and I shot no one because n1, fuck you.
I’m any other town power role and I visited myself.

[FM Jack Sparrow]

-vote FM Lucutus

Every day we need to lynch. He is the only Star trekk universe character.

[FM Agahnim]

Did you guys know that claiming Citizen on d2 with no reason to is actually not helpful to the Town and only really benefits scum.

[FM The Terminator]

Is anybody else worried about the no-last-wills-mechanic?
It’s ok. I’ve thought about it, and here’s how we’re going to deal with it:

Roles are revealed upon death so we are all going to hypo (hypo = hypothetical claim) night actions as each town power role in the game every day. Since days are 48 hours long, any feedback claims if they are to be made should come in the first 24 hours of day, and all hypo claims should come in the last 24 hours of each day.

List of all town power roles in the game:
Sheriff
Doctor
Vigilante
Escort
Blacksmith
Doctor
Sheriff
Jailor

If a vigilante shot is made, role blocks are claimed, blacksmith materials are claimed to have been received, jailed people claim in the first 24 hours of day, you should insert that information into your hypo claim list.

Here is an example of how to hypo:


Basically hypos serve a dual purpose:
1. If a town power role dies, we know what their previous night actions were and can access this information even though we do not have last wills.
2. It locks scum into a corner if they decide to fake claim a power role at a later date, as they are forced to essentially construct their fake claim for the duration of the whole game.

The benefits to the hypo strategy strongly outweigh the cons, and here is why:
Con #1. People often don’t use hypo’s because scum can use false guilties or inno’s in sheriff results to narrow down their list of potential sheriffs.

Rebuttal: With this strategy, the mafia will be able to narrow down a list of names as NOT sheriff, but then they may avoid hitting other unconfirmable PR’s like doctors, etc. We can also use the WIFOM involved in the night kills to our advantage to try to reverse-engineer who the mafia are. Lastly, the benefits to town of knowing PR night actions (since we do not have last wills) strongly outweighs the benefits to mafia of using hypo claims to hunt pr’s.

Con #2. Present your questions or concerns about this plan in the thread so we can discuss further.

------

If we are to proceed with this plan, it involves full cooperation of all parties. Everyone must hypo. I can even formulate a nice template for people to use.

Are you suggesting we make two claims, one in "the morning" and one in "the evening?"
As in, assuming I'm a paranoid sheriff,
In the first 24 hours: Last night I investigated Cluscum and he is scum.
In the last 24 hours: Tonight I will check Michigan J Frog.

If not this, then what are you suggesting?

[FM Michigan J Frog]

I’m sheriff, and last night I got an inno on Agahnim.
I’m jailor and I jailed Kermit.
I’m escort who blocked Gandalf.
I’m vigilante and I shot no one because n1, fuck you.
I’m any other town power role and I visited myself.

Cluseau, it's best to wait until the last 24 hours of day before you make a hypo claim so that you can take into account any future "I was role blocked/jailed/etc" claims. For example, if Gandalf now claims roleblocked, scum will be inclined to think you are an escort. The point of a hypo is not to out all the town pr results to the mafia and make the pr really obvious based on poorly done hypo claims by town. The point is to allow pr's to hide and reveal their results in lieu of having last wills by having every single townie (including all citizens) claim every single pr role.

[FM Dracula]

..... that's what I get for not paying attention to the list. Fine ill pick lame ass dracula

[Inspector Cluseau]

Did you guys know that claiming Citizen on d2 with no reason to is actually not helpful to the Town and only really benefits scum.

How about we all claim Citizen? Put it back to zero.

ROLE CALL!

[FM Wolverine]

Are you suggesting we make two claims, one in "the morning" and one in "the evening?"
As in, assuming I'm a paranoid sheriff,
In the first 24 hours: Last night I investigated Cluscum and he is scum.
In the last 24 hours: Tonight I will check Michigan J Frog.

If not this, then what are you suggesting?

That's what I got out of it. But then again, I could be very very wrong.

[FM Robin Hood]

I'm sheriff, and last night, I got an inno/guilty on FM Inspector Cluseau.
I'm jailor, and I jailed FM Inspector Cluseau.
I'm escort who blocked FM Inspector Cluseau.
I'm vigilante and I shot FM Inspector Cluseau.
I'm any other town power role, and I visited FM Inspector Cluseau.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Are you suggesting we make two claims, one in "the morning" and one in "the evening?"
As in, assuming I'm a paranoid sheriff,
In the first 24 hours: Last night I investigated Cluscum and he is scum.
In the last 24 hours: Tonight I will check Michigan J Frog.

If not this, then what are you suggesting?

Incorrect.
First 24 hours of each day should be feedback claims:
"I was role blocked"
"I was jailed"
"I was attacked/healed"

Second 24 hours of each day should be hypo claims, incorporating information gained from the feedback claims:
"Yayap claims jailed last night. I am the jailor who jailed Yayap."
"Oops claims role blocked. I am the escort who role blocked oops."
"Dark Revenant claims attacked/healed. I am the doctor who healed Dark Revenant."
etc.
and:
"I am a sheriff who got an inno/guilty on _____"
"I am any other town power role who used my action on _____"

Does that make sense?

[FM Gandalf]

Frog, I suspect that it's going to be hard to get everybody to participate.

But I think it sounds like a good idea, in principle. (I'll try to think of flaws in the plan, because we don't want this to backfire & give up all our PR's.)

[FM Yoda]

ROLE CALL!

Dark spawn.

[Inspector Cluseau]

day starts. claim any feedback.
mid day. claim all power roles and what you did as them.
end day. claim all power roles and what you will do tonight.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Citizen (25)
Sheriff
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Vigilante
Escort
Blacksmith
Jailor

Godfather
Mafioso
Mafioso
Consigliere
Consort
Framer

Serial Killer
Witch

Graveyard:
FM Yehat (Citizen) Killed by the Mafia

Spoiler : ROLES :

Godfather

• Override Night actions
• Immune to Detection
• Not immune to death by town
• Is informed of the players name if visited by an evil neutral
• Can only kill if he is the last mafia alive

Consigliere

• Find exact role
• Does not replace GF

Roles
Mafioso

• May be sent for the kill
• Kills described as Killed by Mafia
• When there are no mafioso alive other mafia members will forsake their night action for the kill
• Will not kill but is informed if the target is an evil neutral

Framer

• May frame 1 player each night, sheriff will get a "mafia" result if he visits the same player.

Consort

• May roleblock any player at night. Target will get PM saying: "You were roleblocked!"

Serial Killer

• Kills will be described as "Killed by the SK".
• Will not kill but is informed if his target is Mafia or Evil Neutral.

Witch

• Controls a player to target someone of his choice.
• Cannot make target target self.
• Can target mafia and other Evil Neutrals.
• Witch cannot force a player to use an item, but if a gun is used, witch can change it's target.
• Target is informed that a witch visited him.

Sheriff

• Checks 1 player each night to see if he is part of the Mafia or Evil Neutrals.

Doctor

• Will heal 1 player each night.

Vigilante

• Can kill night 1
• Unlimited shots

Escort

• Can roleblock at night

Blacksmith

• May give 1 vest or 1 one shot gun to a player at night.
• Items can be used in addition to the persons role action

Jailor

• During the day, may choose to jail a player for that night. Then he may release or execute his captive during the night. Unlimited executions. Jailed player will be roleblocked and will be immune to outside attacks. Cannot jail if there was a lynch. Cannot execute if Roleblocked. Immune to Witch.

Feedback Messages

Spoiler : Show :

Consort/Escort - "You were roleblocked!"
Witch - "A witch controlled you last night!"
Sheriff Checks - "(targets name) is part of the Town."
"(targets name) is part of the Mafia."
"(targets name) is Evil."
Healed+Attacked - "Your target was attacked, but you healed his wounds."
Blacksmith - "You received a one shot Gun!" or "You received a vest!"

Death Types

Spoiler : Show :

Killed by Mafia
Killed by SK
Killed by Vigilante
Executed by Jailor

OoO

Spoiler : Show :

1- Jailor jails
2- Night groups get together to talk
3- People put on vests.
4- Escort / Consort Blocks Escorts / Consorts / Witch / Lookout
5- Witch mind-control
6- Lookout actions (can see witch and roleblockers)
7- Escort / Consort Blocks other roles
8- Framing
9- Investigations
10- Bodyguard
11- Scum kills
12- Vig kills
13- Heals
14- Blacksmith Gives Item
15- Jailor releases/executes

[Inspector Cluseau]

I'm sheriff, and last night, I got an inno/guilty on FM Inspector Cluseau.
I'm jailor, and I jailed FM Inspector Cluseau.
I'm escort who blocked FM Inspector Cluseau.
I'm vigilante and I shot FM Inspector Cluseau.
I'm any other town power role, and I visited FM Inspector Cluseau.

Robin Hood lies, none of this happened to me. Scum.

[FM Cookie Monster]

There! All done! *bookmarks page*

[FM Robin Hood]

Cluseau, it's best to wait until the last 24 hours of day before you make a hypo claim so that you can take into account any future "I was role blocked/jailed/etc" claims. For example, if Gandalf now claims roleblocked, scum will be inclined to think you are an escort. The point of a hypo is not to out all the town pr results to the mafia and make the pr really obvious based on poorly done hypo claims by town. The point is to allow pr's to hide and reveal their results in lieu of having last wills by having every single townie (including all citizens) claim every single pr role.

DANGIT.

[FM Wolverine]

(I'll try to think of flaws in the plan, because we don't want this to backfire & give up all our PR's.)

That sounds like a pretty good argument against it to me. What's to stop scum from just killing all our PRs once they all claim day 1?

[FM Cookie Monster]

@Michigan
Ah I see, I think it's a viable idea.
Should the REAL PR be honest about their actions?
I agree with this plan. Who else wants to do it?

[Inspector Cluseau]

That sounds like a pretty good argument against it to me. What's to stop scum from just killing all our PRs once they all claim day 1?

Simple... We claim the feedback.

[FM The Terminator]

Incorrect.
First 24 hours of each day should be feedback claims:
"I was role blocked"
"I was jailed"
"I was attacked/healed"

Second 24 hours of each day should be hypo claims, incorporating information gained from the feedback claims:
"Yayap claims jailed last night. I am the jailor who jailed Yayap."
"Oops claims role blocked. I am the escort who role blocked oops."
"Dark Revenant claims attacked/healed. I am the doctor who healed Dark Revenant."
etc.
and:
"I am a sheriff who got an inno/guilty on _____"
"I am any other town power role who used my action on _____"

Does that make sense?

What about, say, an escort who ends up roleblocking the mafia killer but is killed by the serial killer that same night? We should have everyone also claim an action for the upcoming night. Perhaps Cluscum's idea is the best one?

[FM Wile E Coyote]

Where the hell is that perky Road Runner?

I've got some Acme Dynamite cookies for him.

[Inspector Cluseau]

-Vote FM Inspector Cluseau for MVP

[FM Robin Hood]

Oh! I know! Let's have all of the citizen claim "Sheriff", and all of the Sheriffs claim "Citizen"!

[FM Agahnim]

-vote FM Lucutus

Every day we need to lynch. He is the only Star trekk universe character.

Scum

Citizen (25)
Sheriff
Sheriff
Doctor
Doctor
Vigilante
Escort
Blacksmith
Jailor

Godfather
Mafioso
Mafioso
Consigliere
Consort
Framer

Serial Killer
Witch

Graveyard:
FM Yehat (Citizen) Killed by the Mafia

Spoiler : ROLES :

Godfather

• Override Night actions
• Immune to Detection
• Not immune to death by town
• Is informed of the players name if visited by an evil neutral
• Can only kill if he is the last mafia alive

Consigliere

• Find exact role
• Does not replace GF

Roles
Mafioso

• May be sent for the kill
• Kills described as Killed by Mafia
• When there are no mafioso alive other mafia members will forsake their night action for the kill
• Will not kill but is informed if the target is an evil neutral

Framer

• May frame 1 player each night, sheriff will get a "mafia" result if he visits the same player.

Consort

• May roleblock any player at night. Target will get PM saying: "You were roleblocked!"

Serial Killer

• Kills will be described as "Killed by the SK".
• Will not kill but is informed if his target is Mafia or Evil Neutral.

Witch

• Controls a player to target someone of his choice.
• Cannot make target target self.
• Can target mafia and other Evil Neutrals.
• Witch cannot force a player to use an item, but if a gun is used, witch can change it's target.
• Target is informed that a witch visited him.

Sheriff

• Checks 1 player each night to see if he is part of the Mafia or Evil Neutrals.

Doctor

• Will heal 1 player each night.

Vigilante

• Can kill night 1
• Unlimited shots

Escort

• Can roleblock at night

Blacksmith

• May give 1 vest or 1 one shot gun to a player at night.
• Items can be used in addition to the persons role action

Jailor

• During the day, may choose to jail a player for that night. Then he may release or execute his captive during the night. Unlimited executions. Jailed player will be roleblocked and will be immune to outside attacks. Cannot jail if there was a lynch. Cannot execute if Roleblocked. Immune to Witch.

Feedback Messages

Spoiler : Show :

Consort/Escort - "You were roleblocked!"
Witch - "A witch controlled you last night!"
Sheriff Checks - "(targets name) is part of the Town."
"(targets name) is part of the Mafia."
"(targets name) is Evil."
Healed+Attacked - "Your target was attacked, but you healed his wounds."
Blacksmith - "You received a one shot Gun!" or "You received a vest!"

Death Types

Spoiler : Show :

Killed by Mafia
Killed by SK
Killed by Vigilante
Executed by Jailor

OoO

Spoiler : Show :

1- Jailor jails
2- Night groups get together to talk
3- People put on vests.
4- Escort / Consort Blocks Escorts / Consorts / Witch / Lookout
5- Witch mind-control
6- Lookout actions (can see witch and roleblockers)
7- Escort / Consort Blocks other roles
8- Framing
9- Investigations
10- Bodyguard
11- Scum kills
12- Vig kills
13- Heals
14- Blacksmith Gives Item
15- Jailor releases/executes

Usefull

[Inspector Cluseau]

Oh! I know! Let's have all of the citizen claim "Sheriff", and all of the Sheriffs claim "Citizen"!

Close. How about, instead of that, we all claim both?