S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I am not happy about your lack of transparency. TBH I think this is TvT and we are wasting time, but if you want more out of me, you will have to concede something from your side. My D2 will be far firmer because my mechanics will kick in. What more do I fucking have to say? MOVE THE FUCK ON, PLEASE!

That is the entire issue. 'D2 your mechanics kick in.'

Maybe I have trust issues? I do not like the idea of giving a player 'mechanics' without even knowing what I am giving them.

But moving on. Who would you like to focus on?

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

It is of note that we now know 2 currencys to exist. Gold (with some kinda bidding function claimed by players) and posts (with high post counts resulting in some evolution of players roles)

[FM-Tesseract]

That is the entire issue. 'D2 your mechanics kick in.'

Maybe I have trust issues? I do not like the idea of giving a player 'mechanics' without even knowing what I am giving them.

But moving on. Who would you like to focus on?

Focus on finding townmates. I am one of them. I get it, I could be some powerwolf evil dude, but I am not. What else can I say? Can we agree to seize our engagement for now so that I can focus on the rest of the roster, please?

[FM-Comrade PickleRadish]

But I gotta say, being pressured into disclosing more about my role is kinda bad for town. Its unlikely we have 3 reliable protectives to protect 3 highly valuable targets: me, tessract, and that guy with some other voting power whatever it was.

Ok, so think back to Arcade. Usually, out of a 15 player setup, theres 9 town, a 3-player scum team, and 3 other scum who dont know eachother and 1 or 2 of which might not actually be scum at all.

9/15 = 60%

so assuming that this KRC setup somewhat adheres to this 60-20-20 ratio, we prob have about 14 to 15 town. 3 protectives for 3 high value targets, and the other 8-9 townies might as well go fuck themselves. Now if this ?KRC ended up similar to your typical Arcade setup, then town might stand a chance. But if theres more than 1 scum team, or if theres a bunch of neutrals, then we may be in a more precarious situation.

[FM-Tesseract]

It is of note that we now know 2 currencys to exist. Gold (with some kinda bidding function claimed by players) and posts (with high post counts resulting in some evolution of players roles)

So the latter is something that I considered earlier. I was mistaken this morning when I thought my role said "Town XXX" (XXX being my role name) in it, but it did not, so I was wrong (it was only my alignment). I had this thought that maybe an opposing evil person exists with a similar card. I actually think this is not the case. SOMETHING has been posting stuff that is in violation of my other condition. So in conclusion, I do not believe that a mirror image of me exists on the scum side.

[FM-Comrade PickleRadish]

the other 8-9 townies might as well go get fucked by scum is what i meant to say

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

It is of note that we now know 2 currencys to exist. Gold (with some kinda bidding function claimed by players) and posts (with high post counts resulting in some evolution of players roles)

Could you tell me what post# we learned the latter in?

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I think you are mafia/scum. Prove me wrong.

Standard disclaimer: no animals (except unicorns) were hurt in the making of this post. Yep, you ARE the father! Yep, that's the daddy. WIth 2 votes, you ARE the weakest link! Good bye!

You can't prove a negative, theology 101 bro

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I think we will catch Mafia Bro. He's totally Mafia, Bro. You catch my drift?

Naaaah, I'm just joking..... unless?

I like (half of) the cut of your jib, sailor bro

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Focus on finding townmates. I am one of them. I get it, I could be some powerwolf evil dude, but I am not. What else can I say? Can we agree to seize our engagement for now so that I can focus on the rest of the roster, please?

Yes. But I am not going to be quiet about the fact I have a problem with not talking about your role until D2 when you gain a bunch of powers.

That is dumb to me and I do not think any logical player should blindly agree to this happening.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

The only mayor I have is jebus

Jebus doesn't want you for a sunbeam, bro

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Could you tell me what post# we learned the latter in?

I could hunt for it but you could just look at my conversation with Tesseract. They very openly claimed getting the high post count gives them power.

[FM-Tesseract]

Yes. But I am not going to be quiet about the fact I have a problem with not talking about your role until D2 when you gain a bunch of powers.

That is dumb to me and I do not think any logical player should blindly agree to this happening.

I will be alive. My attorneys have a strong vested interest in their client remaining alive and paying the bills. They are also invested in the client making shit up and lying through their teeth (not many left). You are NOT getting more out of me. If you are unhappy about it, you deal with it.

[FM-Father and Sun]

Well, I won't be able to afford the 5,000 gold price for like 2 nights. As for your painting, should I acquire it, it allows me to take a proactive approach on peacefully subduing any troublesome scum or neutral power role.

The painting I acquired from Purple can do either one of those things:
- deludes Purple from ever poisoning me with his dart tonight
- probably swindles Purple's poison dart right into my inventory, in which case I can take a much less peacefully and more proactive approach on subduing any troublesome scum or neutral power role.

That is if I am reading my rolecard correctly

Do you need to target it or Is it generic.

I want a fair price but don't wanbs rip off

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I could hunt for it but you could just look at my conversation with Tesseract. They very openly claimed getting the high post count gives them power.

That might be role specific and not a broadly applicable currency, like expecting to be able to trade antique lamps for food, that's applicable in the north east United States but in other regions they'd just look at you like you're crazy. Government 101, bro

[FM-Father and Sun]

P sure comrades a v

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I will be alive. My attorneys have a strong vested interest in their client remaining alive and paying the bills. They are also invested in the client making shit up and lying through their teeth (not many left). You are NOT getting more out of me. If you are unhappy about it, you deal with it.

Yup. Thats what is going to happen.

I am not going to try to out post-farm you and I am not going to pretend to be cool with you openly working to gain a bunch of powers you are not even willing to talk about.

Maybe nobody else had the chops to pick up on what you were doing there but I will not be quiet about it as I 'deal with it.'

[FM-Tesseract]

-vote FM-Earless Artiste

Yo, Vincent, are you alive? You talk about pocketing but are nowhere to be seen. This is not going to work if you are a member of my town. You shall be exiled! Prove me wrong, or you are GONE! Along with whatever shit you did.

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

I could hunt for it but you could just look at my conversation with Tesseract. They very openly claimed getting the high post count gives them power.

So postcount isn't necessarily a currency for everyone, but some sort of empowering factor for Tesseract?

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

P sure comrades a v

What makes you think so?

[FM-Tesseract]

Yup. Thats what is going to happen.

I am not going to try to out post-farm you and I am not going to pretend to be cool with you openly working to gain a bunch of powers you are not even willing to talk about.

Maybe nobody else had the chops to pick up on what you were doing there but I will not be quiet about it as I 'deal with it.'

That is fair. I would like you to know that I really am town, and my job is to post a lot and to lead us to victory. I hope that some day (very soon), you will regain your trust in me. And while you evaluate my slot, why aren't you concerned about your infection? You are probs dead tonight.

[FM-Tesseract]

So postcount isn't necessarily a currency for everyone, but some sort of empowering factor for Tesseract?

I am alive as long as i am the top-poster. Anyone who attempts to circumvent this and dethrone me will be held in contempt! I did not come here to lose, we are winners, our town will prevail. That is why even vanilla ice creams are good!

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

So postcount isn't necessarily a currency for everyone, but some sort of empowering factor for Tesseract?

Yes.

I have also made the assumption FM-Chad Knight was going for post count simply because they have so many posts while I can not remember a real position they have taken.

That assumption is bad. But it is reasonable that someone would have a role thats designated to compete with Tesseract's for top poster. It would also be logical to assume such a person would have a different alignment.

If you follow my reasoning there I am leaning twords assuming Tesseract and Chad are a form of 1v1 (or maybe 1v....2/3/)

[FM-Tesseract]

Yes.

I have also made the assumption FM-Chad Knight was going for post count simply because they have so many posts while I can not remember a real position they have taken.

That assumption is bad. But it is reasonable that someone would have a role thats designated to compete with Tesseract's for top poster. It would also be logical to assume such a person would have a different alignment.

If you follow my reasoning there I am leaning twords assuming Tesseract and Chad are a form of 1v1 (or maybe 1v....2/3/)

Forget about it. No one is catching up to me except possibly SOMETHING. And if anyone does, then we hammer the crap out of them. I don't think there exists a mirror image of my role on the scum teams.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

That is fair. I would like you to know that I really am town, and my job is to post a lot and to lead us to victory. I hope that some day (very soon), you will regain your trust in me. And while you evaluate my slot, why aren't you concerned about your infection? You are probs dead tonight.

Trust will come with time.

My trust does not come from ignorance though. I will sort you as time goes on but I hope you understand my desire to understand what we are allowing you to do instead of just watching it happen and blindly being ok with it.

[FM-Tesseract]

Trust will come with time.

My trust does not come from ignorance though. I will sort you as time goes on but I hope you understand my desire to understand what we are allowing you to do instead of just watching it happen and blindly being ok with it.

What time? you are probably dead tomorrow cuz infection. I hate to entertain that idea, but that is the likely reality. So make the best of your D1 please. I would like to carry on your legacy. Can I do that?

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Forget about it. No one is catching up to me except possibly SOMETHING. And if anyone does, then we hammer the crap out of them. I don't think there exists a mirror image of my role on the scum teams.

Maybe nobody can catch up.

I am not sure if I would fight anyone that tried to. You have not exactly given me a reason to and I doubt the rest of the town would fight for you to hold a posting majority.

What makes you feel there is not mirror image of your role in the scum team? Its an odd assumption imo.

[FM-Comrade PickleRadish]

Do you need to target it or Is it generic.

I want a fair price but don't wanbs rip off

I have to target the ability I gain from your painting. The ability I most likely already have from Purple's painting is passive.

[FM-Comrade PickleRadish]

-vote unvote

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

What time? you are probably dead tomorrow cuz infection. I hate to entertain that idea, but that is the likely reality. So make the best of your D1 please. I would like to carry on your legacy. Can I do that?

Thats fair.

The only thing that makes me feel like I will be alive tomorrow is that a parasite needs its host to live to function.

Moving past my lack of trust and dislike for how you have chosen to convey information I absolutely agree that we can work to a common goal here. Even if you are not town I would like to dig into players with you.

[FM-Comrade PickleRadish]

Thats fair.

The only thing that makes me feel like I will be alive tomorrow is that a parasite needs its host to live to function.

Or you die, and hopefully the parasite dies with you too? How confident should we be in the assumption that the parasite won't find a new host if you die? How would the parasite find a new host?

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Or you die, and hopefully the parasite dies with you too? How confident should we be in the assumption that the parasite won't find a new host if you die? How would the parasite find a new host?

A lot of good questions here.

I think I brought up earlier that I might be worth killing given how the parasite seems to impact every investigative function in the game. But will killing me prevent that? I dont know.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

@FM-Tesseract

If nobody is going to call you on stacking posts to grab power and you are unwilling to talk about what the power you gain is I want to talk about your reads.

You can sort me as well with this. Pick a player and lets get started.

[FM-Tesseract]

Maybe nobody can catch up.

I am not sure if I would fight anyone that tried to. You have not exactly given me a reason to and I doubt the rest of the town would fight for you to hold a posting majority.

What makes you feel there is not mirror image of your role in the scum team? Its an odd assumption imo.

I get your "open mind" part but you are continuing to dig into TvT with me here. What makes me think that my mirror image does not exist is that no one else besides SOMETHING has challenged me, and his posts are in violation of another requirement. So unless there is some scum role with more relaxed rules, I am it. It even has "the" prefix for my role So I think I am THE only one here with this condition.

[FM-Tesseract]

@FM-Tesseract

If nobody is going to call you on stacking posts to grab power and you are unwilling to talk about what the power you gain is I want to talk about your reads.

You can sort me as well with this. Pick a player and lets get started.

What power? Evidently, you give 0 fucks about it. I wanted to have a rational discussion, but you don't. So what makes you think I will entertain your offer? Tell me, my attorneys and I would love to learn more!

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

What power? Evidently, you give 0 fucks about it. I wanted to have a rational discussion, but you don't. So what makes you think I will entertain your offer? Tell me, my attorneys and I would love to learn more!

The fact you asked me to move past this issue and focus elsewhere suggests there is an elsewhere to focus on.

If your only goal is to hold post count until the day ends honestly I am probably going to argue to kill you.

[FM-Tesseract]

The fact you asked me to move past this issue and focus elsewhere suggests there is an elsewhere to focus on.

If your only goal is to hold post count until the day ends honestly I am probably going to argue to kill you.

This is what I was hunting for but was not expecting. I thought you were town. The optimal strategy for evils to win is to kill me off today, before I confirm myself. You keep hunting for more info and now you want to make an argument to kill me? OK, go on.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

This is what I was hunting for but was not expecting. I thought you were town. The optimal strategy for evils to win is to kill me off today, before I confirm myself. You keep hunting for more info and now you want to make an argument to kill me? OK, go on.

How about we hunt together so I can see if you are sorting players? Pick a player and lets get to work so we can sort etchother as well as the person we are looking at.

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

He

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

heheheh, hello everyone, townsmembers and others

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

To my uhm

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

Thing!

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

Yes yes

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

My uhm

[FM-Inconspicuous Man]

Thing!!

[FM-Earless Artiste]

I am alive as long as i am the top-poster. Anyone who attempts to circumvent this and dethrone me will be held in contempt! I did not come here to lose, we are winners, our town will prevail. That is why even vanilla ice creams are good!

Lol, sounds like massive bs to me tbh

[FM-Eyes]

I will not EVER determine whether or not to vote someone because they have a strong role. I suggest you do the same.

A strong role is a strong role. It isn’t alignment indicative. It could be a strong role for town or a strong role for town.

Come one, come all.. I'm about to drop A-bomb bombshell.

Chad is a wolf. This post is outing.

If you notice at the end he says "it could be a strong role for town or a strong role for town."
Obviously it's a typo. But why you ask? It is because initially he wrote "it could be a strong role for scum or a strong role for town." Now he sits there staring at a screen worried worried that writing "scum" first would make people think he was a wolf, with scum on the mind. He quickly changes the 1st word to "town." In doing so he forgets to change the 2nd word back to scum.

Join me, comrades.

-vote FM-Chad Knight

[FM-Eyes]

Ok I tried to proofread that but it was written using speeh to text so I don't take blame

[FM-Mr Bones]

THE RIDE NEVER ENDS

[FM-Eyes]

Comrade, what are you hoping to achieve by letting a vote sit on me for awhile?

Haven't others done that?

Or is there something specific you want from me?

I have to assume the answer is "your death"