S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

VT-equivalent means equivalent to a VT aka equivalent to a Vanilla Townie, which is the same thing as saying that I have no special abilities or items, save that which is currently in escrow right now.

[FM-Tesseract]

@FM-Dark Unicorn are you Lover and in love with me? That would be so sweet and romantic. I enjoy candles, red wine, and tulips. I dislike chocolate (unless it is more bitter than I am). Some sous vide cooking by you would also go a long way to earning my heart.

[FM-Tesseract]

VT-equivalent means equivalent to a VT aka equivalent to a Vanilla Townie, which is the same thing as saying that I have no special abilities or items, save that which is currently in escrow right now.

I had to consult my attorneys on the terminology, and they confirmed that VT is indeed Vanilla Townie and not threshold voltage. Is there anything that I can do to help you ascend to a Super Saiyan so you can attain true superiority of your role?

[FM-Tesseract]

@FM-Its SOMETHING my attorneys and I are not convinced that you are following our written request, as you may have simple gone fishing. However, we want to thank you for your cooperation. Should this change, consequences may be disastrous.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

I had to consult my attorneys on the terminology, and they confirmed that VT is indeed Vanilla Townie and not threshold voltage. Is there anything that I can do to help you ascend to a Super Saiyan so you can attain true superiority of your role?

You can give me gold so that I can purchase shop items, but there is nothing anyone can do to make my role special anymore.

[FM-Tesseract]

You can give me gold so that I can purchase shop items, but there is nothing anyone can do to make my role special anymore.

Can you explain the "any more" part, please? What have you done to lose privileges (or, perhaps, you failed to do something?)? I can always use vanilla in my town, so don't sweat it too much, if your position is not as glamorous as mine. We will find a job for you.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

That would actually be hilarious, and I will then take off my hat and say "well played" to whoever did this.



Have you not read the second Spoiler of p484?
I find it very likely (as I said earlier) that you were infected by the possessor of the Stealthbomber16 role. Also, the fact that they have not come forward essentially assures me that the holder of that role is some form of scum or neut.

What you described here (parasite living off of its host) fits perfectly with the description in that Spoiler.

I get that and it is possible. I just try not to jump to conclusions in closed setups. Keeping an open mind allows me to counter potentials that I would otherwise not think of if I assumed I knew what was going on.

I did not understand the part about votes to alignment checks. Can you please elaborate on this?
Also, I must say that I find it strange that you have not considered that maybe I am the parasite who infected you and that's why our names swapped. Why not? :P

Sure. My understanding (after exhaustively messing with the host until I was basically told to go away) is that every time I am voted it will invert investigative checks. This makes sense to me for alignment. I do not know if it effects role checks and even if it did how the fuck that would function. Like.. How do you 'invert' what a bus driver does for example?

To considering you as the one that infected me I feel like its a odd question. Again- I try to stay open minded and I have no reason to suspect you over anyone else. The fact we have a weird name entanglement is a thing. But a separate thing from all the other things. I could just as easily assume you are non-town because I am town. Or that you are town because I am town. Or that your role does the inverse function of my role if I wanted to entangle the vote thing or even that if I am a player you must be the host in game form.

I could what-if for days but the simple fact is that I do not know and I will structure my understanding of who is doing what as I gain information.

[FM-Tesseract]

You can give me gold so that I can purchase shop items, but there is nothing anyone can do to make my role special anymore.

Gold, on the other hand, is hard to come by in our poor town these days. Perhaps, we can get it off of moofia gangsters trying to overtake us. The true currency of value in the Tesseract is TIME. BUY GOLD, BYE!

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

@FM-Dark Unicorn are you Lover and in love with me? That would be so sweet and romantic. I enjoy candles, red wine, and tulips. I dislike chocolate (unless it is more bitter than I am). Some sous vide cooking by you would also go a long way to earning my heart.

Sorry babe. I just want to date your avatar because I am shallow and have a thing for Unicorns : )

I am more of a 'slap and choke' kinda guy that you would lie to your boyfriend about than the 'campfire on the beach with wine' sort.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

Can you explain the "any more" part, please? What have you done to lose privileges (or, perhaps, you failed to do something?)? I can always use vanilla in my town, so don't sweat it too much, if your position is not as glamorous as mine. We will find a job for you.

I thought you read the post where I said I was a VT-equivalent?
It's literally not my fault, and if you think hard enough there's a clear possibility for why I'm stuck with no special abilities and no special info, because SOMEBODY decided to do a boo-boo.

Granted that boo-boo was a net positive for us but on the other hand extremely annoying for me.

[FM-Tesseract]

I get that and it is possible. I just try not to jump to conclusions in closed setups. Keeping an open mind allows me to counter potentials that I would otherwise not think of if I assumed I knew what was going on.
Sure. My understanding (after exhaustively messing with the host until I was basically told to go away) is that every time I am voted it will invert investigative checks. This makes sense to me for alignment. I do not know if it effects role checks and even if it did how the fuck that would function. Like.. How do you 'invert' what a bus driver does for example?

To considering you as the one that infected me I feel like its a odd question. Again- I try to stay open minded and I have no reason to suspect you over anyone else. The fact we have a weird name entanglement is a thing. But a separate thing from all the other things. I could just as easily assume you are non-town because I am town. Or that you are town because I am town. Or that your role does the inverse function of my role if I wanted to entangle the vote thing or even that if I am a player you must be the host in game form.

I could what-if for days but the simple fact is that I do not know and I will structure my understanding of who is doing what as I gain information.

Whether you are my lover or not, I am already in love (how is this for a pocket?). It appears that somehow we were separated at birth, perhaps I have more to say. The inverter thing is really interesting, and I will comment on it shortly.

[FM-Tesseract]

Sorry babe. I just want to date your avatar because I am shallow and have a thing for Unicorns : )

I am more of a 'slap and choke' kinda guy that you would lie to your boyfriend about than the 'campfire on the beach with wine' sort.

Oh, I simply told you about my first date. I neglected to mention fuzzy handcuffs and ball gags that come later.

On a more serious note, I am town but my role has a passive that says I will "appear guilty" to any investigatives (I wonder what "guilty" means). Would be kind of fun if you could invert that I figured I should get that out the way sooner than later (obviously I could make this play as a scum to generate plausible deniability later on, though, so I understand that this claim should not mean all that much to my town people).

I hereby appoint you 2nd in command. If anyone ever attempts to be top poster on any day while I am alive, then they are scum and must be lynched or eliminated by other means per my policy.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

@FM-Tesseract

Even though I might want your horn in my box your reference to attorneys has my attention. How many of them do you have if you do not mind my asking. And how much do you trust them?

[FM-Tesseract]

I thought you read the post where I said I was a VT-equivalent?
It's literally not my fault, and if you think hard enough there's a clear possibility for why I'm stuck with no special abilities and no special info, because SOMEBODY decided to do a boo-boo.

Granted that boo-boo was a net positive for us but on the other hand extremely annoying for me.

I do understand, this happened due to someone else's stupidity. So why are you not hunting for the person who did this to you? Do you know who did it? If not, and if they have not claimed, then we should assume that a scum did this to you.

[FM-Tesseract]

@FM-Tesseract

Even though I might want your horn in my box your reference to attorneys has my attention. How many of them do you have if you do not mind my asking. And how much do you trust them?

What does "horn in my box" mean?

My imaginary attorneys exist only so that I can appear more powerful than I am And so that I can ascend to Town Mayor. Well, that is not entirely true, I already am the town mayo, it is more so that I do not get dethroned due to failure to comply with certain requirements, 200 of them.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

I do understand, this happened due to someone else's stupidity. So why are you not hunting for the person who did this to you? Do you know who did it? If not, and if they have not claimed, then we should assume that a scum did this to you.

I know who did it.
I can claim who did it as well, the only reason I haven't is that whoever figures out first what happened to me gets brownie points.
And yes, it is possible for everyone to guess at.

[FM-Tesseract]

I know who did it.
I can claim who did it as well, the only reason I haven't is that whoever figures out first what happened to me gets brownie points.
And yes, it is possible for everyone to guess at.

Think again about "everyone". Is it possible for a person, such as me, who was not around at the time? If the answer is no, then I think I know what may have happened. Fun times as usual, in the mafia arcade.
It appears to me that in our four-dimensional town, a chunk of time went missing.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

By the way, it might make more sense for everyone to submit the same responses to the sheep contest.
Scum will coordinate their answers anyway, and this at least guarantees that they don't have an advantage.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

Think again about "everyone". Is it possible for a person, such as me, who was not around at the time? If the answer is no, then I think I know what may have happened. Fun times as usual, in the mafia arcade.
It appears to me that in our four-dimensional town, a chunk of time went missing.

Everyone, and I mean, everyone can infer. The info is in plain sight, you do not need to have been around at the time.

[FM-Tesseract]

Everyone, and I mean, everyone can infer. The info is in plain sight, you do not need to have been around at the time.

My lawyers would like to press you further and demand to know what your abilities were before you were stripped of your abilities. Can you share this with the town mayor? Failure to do so may result in legal action!

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

My lawyers would like to press you further and demand to know what your abilities were before you were stripped of your abilities. Can you share this with the town mayor? Failure to do so may result in legal action!

I will out it before EoD1 anyways, even if no one realizes, so there's no need to pursue legal action.

[FM-Tesseract]

I will out it before EoD1 anyways, even if no one realizes, so there's no need to pursue legal action.

What are your reasons for the temporizing action? Is there some harm in revealing sooner than later?
And hang in there, fellow VT, we need all the town I can gather to defeat the evil scumbags trying to overthrow me.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

In a fight between an astronaut vs caveman who would win? This isn't bare-handed, obviously the astronaut.
Witch or Bus Driver? I don't actually know what a Witch is. Decide answer later.
Waffles or Pancakes? Controversial, decide answer later.
Is cereal a soup? It is not generally considered one, so lets leave it at that.
Would you rather always be lynched day1 or always survive till the final day? You have more influence over the game the longer you survive.
Teens and Adults can be persuaded equally easy and hard. Yes or No? Since when are any two things exactly equal, no.
Would you rather have the ability to see 10 minutes into the future or 150 years into the future? Life extensions have not been invented yet so I'd imagine 10 minutes into the future has more practical use than dreaming.
Is everything debatable? No. Your own existence isn't.
Bulletproof or Lynchproof? [vest] Ooh this is hard, well more like it depends on the player. As someone who doesn't get hanged very often definitely Bulletproof. So now just assume that everyone's a peak mafia player (why wouldn't you want to?)
Should toilet paper hang over or under the roll? Over of course, it's both closer to you and farther away from the wall.

[FM-Tesseract]

My attorneys and I have decided to drop the lawsuit. You are free to go, and we would appreciate your cooperation on behalf of the town of Tesseract. Thank you for your service. We did have one question: how does Bizarro Pepsi relate to your jail mugshot?

-unvote

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

What are your reasons for the temporizing action? Is there some harm in revealing sooner than later?
And hang in there, fellow VT, we need all the town I can gather to defeat the evil scumbags trying to overthrow me.

I like giving brownie points that is all. There is no comparative advantage to revealing it sooner or later, but if my role is just going to become useless halfway through D1, I might as well get extra fun with it.

[FM-Tesseract]

In a fight between an astronaut vs caveman who would win? This isn't bare-handed, obviously the astronaut.
Witch or Bus Driver? I don't actually know what a Witch is. Decide answer later.
Waffles or Pancakes? Controversial, decide answer later.
Is cereal a soup? It is not generally considered one, so lets leave it at that.
Would you rather always be lynched day1 or always survive till the final day? You have more influence over the game the longer you survive.
Teens and Adults can be persuaded equally easy and hard. Yes or No? Since when are any two things exactly equal, no.
Would you rather have the ability to see 10 minutes into the future or 150 years into the future? Life extensions have not been invented yet so I'd imagine 10 minutes into the future has more practical use than dreaming.
Is everything debatable? No. Your own existence isn't.
Bulletproof or Lynchproof? [vest] Ooh this is hard, well more like it depends on the player. As someone who doesn't get hanged very often definitely Bulletproof. So now just assume that everyone's a peak mafia player (why wouldn't you want to?)
Should toilet paper hang over or under the roll? Over of course, it's both closer to you and farther away from the wall.

The future will come, and ten minutes or even years are not sufficiently rewarding. I would rather have the ability to see the past beyond that, which I have experienced myself. Neither pancakes nor waffles btw

[FM-Tesseract]

I like giving brownie points that is all. There is no comparative advantage to revealing it sooner or later, but if my role is just going to become useless halfway through D1, I might as well get extra fun with it.

What are your criteria for handing out brownie points? Like somehow, we will guess what your nerfed abilities used to be? Based on what? Something is smelling fishy here (and it is not one of the two C-word items on sale today).

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

My attorneys and I have decided to drop the lawsuit. You are free to go, and we would appreciate your cooperation on behalf of the town of Tesseract. Thank you for your service. We did have one question: how does Bizarro Pepsi relate to your jail mugshot?

-unvote

The field green and scarlet circles in my pfp apparently form the outline of what resembles a misshapen Pepsi logo.

[FM-Tesseract]

The field green and scarlet circles in my pfp apparently form the outline of what resembles a misshapen Pepsi logo.

The best thing you can do as a threshold voltage, I mean vanilla town, is to do some reads and help out the mayor who is stuck and forced to engage in political debates. Can you please help me out and go do some reading (for I am a lazy mayor) and let me know who the suspects are?

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

What are your criteria for handing out brownie points? Like somehow, we will guess what your nerfed abilities used to be? Based on what? Something is smelling fishy here (and it is not one of the two C-word items on sale today).

It will become immediately obvious why its supposed to be obvious whenever I or someone else tell you the answer. The point is that scum are less likely to actually care about things that are ultimately irrelevant to their goal of mis-chopping townies and would not try to investigate how I'm a VT all of a sudden. but we've drawn this conversation out so long that I'm afraid scum will notice and try to find it just to spite me and my brownie points system.

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

In a fight between an astronaut vs caveman who would win? This isn't bare-handed, obviously the astronaut.
Witch or Bus Driver? I don't actually know what a Witch is. Decide answer later.
Waffles or Pancakes? Controversial, decide answer later.
Is cereal a soup? It is not generally considered one, so lets leave it at that.
Would you rather always be lynched day1 or always survive till the final day? You have more influence over the game the longer you survive.
Teens and Adults can be persuaded equally easy and hard. Yes or No? Since when are any two things exactly equal, no.
Would you rather have the ability to see 10 minutes into the future or 150 years into the future? Life extensions have not been invented yet so I'd imagine 10 minutes into the future has more practical use than dreaming.
Is everything debatable? No. Your own existence isn't.
Bulletproof or Lynchproof? [vest] Ooh this is hard, well more like it depends on the player. As someone who doesn't get hanged very often definitely Bulletproof. So now just assume that everyone's a peak mafia player (why wouldn't you want to?)
Should toilet paper hang over or under the roll? Over of course, it's both closer to you and farther away from the wall.

It doesn't really matter if we know what something is or not. We just have to agree on it.

I won't be doing that though, I will submit my answers as if I had no access to thread. Much more fun that way.

[FM-Eyes]

If earliste artiste is a wolf then so is whoever he unvoted. Otherwise he is probably just town.

Bluebeard is also probably town unless there are wolves saying "mafia" instead of "non-town" or among the people getting flak for "tmi" by saying mafia

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

It will become immediately obvious why its supposed to be obvious whenever I or someone else tell you the answer. The point is that scum are less likely to actually care about things that are ultimately irrelevant to their goal of mis-chopping townies and would not try to investigate how I'm a VT all of a sudden. but we've drawn this conversation out so long that I'm afraid scum will notice and try to find it just to spite me and my brownie points system.

Are you saying you were some form of PR and because a VT?

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

This is the fastest a wolf has ever fallen for this bait, it never fails.

-vote Kitty Can't Dance

Have you ever done this as wolf before?
Or are you always just town whenever this happens on your homesite?

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Are you saying you were some form of PR and because a VT?

Well fuck you too auto-correct.

"Are you saying you were some form of PR and became a VT?"

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

If earliste artiste is a wolf then so is whoever he unvoted. Otherwise he is probably just town.

Bluebeard is also probably town unless there are wolves saying "mafia" instead of "non-town" or among the people getting flak for "tmi" by saying mafia

I don't understand your Earliste Artiste read at all. Can you expand on that?

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

It doesn't really matter if we know what something is or not. We just have to agree on it.

I won't be doing that though, I will submit my answers as if I had no access to thread. Much more fun that way.

Why did you pick the most irrelevant part o the entire affair, and then proceed to tell me that none of it mattered anyway because you'll just decide to be selfish.

And anyways, it doesn't matter, if a majority of the playerlist decides to use this strategy then good luck.

[Lumi]

?KRC M-FM Edition

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[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

Why did you pick the most irrelevant part o the entire affair, and then proceed to tell me that none of it mattered anyway because you'll just decide to be selfish.

And anyways, it doesn't matter, if a majority of the playerlist decides to use this strategy then good luck.

Don't know how it's selfish to want to play the game as intended.

[FM-Chad Knight]

It will become immediately obvious why its supposed to be obvious whenever I or someone else tell you the answer. The point is that scum are less likely to actually care about things that are ultimately irrelevant to their goal of mis-chopping townies and would not try to investigate how I'm a VT all of a sudden. but we've drawn this conversation out so long that I'm afraid scum will notice and try to find it just to spite me and my brownie points system.

Why should town care about investigating your nerfed abilities either? Would it not be more towny to be trying to form reads rather than focusing on mechanics.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

Don't know how it's selfish to want to play the game as intended.

You help turn a mafia-sided minigame into a neutral one and you went nahhhh, what was intended was to ignore the host's explicit permission for us to discuss answers.

[FM-Chad Knight]

I would agree that we should be submitting our answers together, however I’m concerned that whoever’s role that is related to is going to get more powerful based on how many answers they get correct.

Given that the author of these questions has not revealed their intent or purpose, I’m going to assume that they are scum.

[FM-Bizarro Pepsi]

Why should town care about investigating your nerfed abilities either? Would it not be more towny to be trying to form reads rather than focusing on mechanics.

Solving the game, forming reads, and the like generally involve more investigation period. Mafia doesn't care to look because its not like they're PR hunting, townies tend to care much more about everything, even if its only slightly related.

[FM-Tesseract]

Why should town care about investigating your nerfed abilities either? Would it not be more towny to be trying to form reads rather than focusing on mechanics.

It has come to the attention of my lawyers and me that you have been skating on by. We hereby accuse you of being a scumbag. What method of punishment do you prefer? It seems that you want to resonate with me bla bla and that's an easy thing for scum to do to buddy/pocket me and move on. NOT ON MY WATCH!

-vote FM-Chad Knight

[FM-Tesseract]

Solving the game, forming reads, and the like generally involve more investigation period. Mafia doesn't care to look because its not like they're PR hunting, townies tend to care much more about everything, even if its only slightly related.

Your offenses have been pardoned by the town mayor. You are free to go, sir/mam. I hereby appoint you the brute force bully of the town. You are vanilla no longer. Go pressure suspects and do your best to extract the truths as well as gold.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Solving the game, forming reads, and the like generally involve more investigation period. Mafia doesn't care to look because its not like they're PR hunting, townies tend to care much more about everything, even if its only slightly related.

You’ll have to forgive me for not particularly caring strongly about your nerfed abilities. It is not as important to me as the public facing mechanics or mechanics that we can control, such as the entity limit discussion, the shop, or the questions.

[FM-Tesseract]

Advisory message from my attorneys: refrain from participating in illegal activities involving sales of items or answering questions, unless the seller is trustworthy. It is more likely that the moofia are infiltrating and attempting to sabotage us. Sometimes, abstinence is the answer.

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

You help turn a mafia-sided minigame into a neutral one and you went nahhhh, what was intended was to ignore the host's explicit permission for us to discuss answers.

I never said we shouldn't discuss answers. I'm just saying I won't.

[FM-Tesseract]

You’ll have to forgive me for not particularly caring strongly about your nerfed abilities. It is not as important to me as the public facing mechanics or mechanics that we can control, such as the entity limit discussion, the shop, or the questions.

It is illegal to drive a horse in my town. You are hereby banished and removed from this town! Do you have anything to say in your defense, subject number eighteen? Will you respect the town authority, or will you disobey?

[FM-Tesseract]

Special announcement: the moofia scumbags have blackmailed me and I will appear as "guilty" (whatever that means) to any investigatives. My attorneys are hard at work to rectify the situation, and we will come back with a vengeance!