M-FM Fringe: Alternate Universe

[M-FM Almost Late]

Let me reveal some info from last night to everybody sec

[M-FM Marksman]

Also funny since Yes was our first Lynch target with Marksman pushing it.

He wasn't contributing, so I pressured him. He started contributing. Mission Accomplished. He also seems to have a town perspective on things, so I changed my mind on him.

I'm not really a fan of the I HAVE A LIFE defense of Kyoko but it seems somewhat genuine. I feel like Zyn is just making a weird town play right now. Just give us your feedback so we can decide what to do today.

Well it seems like we both agree on Almost Late, so let's just go with that for now and see where it takes us.

-vote M-FM Almost Late

[M-FM Almost Late]

Zealot and i were put into an Architect chat. We had a discussion but we didn't go to deep since we don't know if Architect is scum.

Why we thought he was scum, is basically this: he put 2 people of the same universe that town read each other.
While he perfectly has the opportunity to put 2 people of seperate universes together and make a good connection.
Nobody so far has claimed to been architected.

I also asked him to reveal himself to me with a code but he hasnt yet.

This means i'm still in an architect chat with zealot since transporter swapped him.but he has stopped responding
ever since day hit and i've not heard from him since. So i wonder if he's dead.

[M-FM Marksman]

Zealot and i were put into an Architect chat. We had a discussion but we didn't go to deep since we don't know if Architect is scum.

Why we thought he was scum, is basically this: he put 2 people of the same universe that town read each other.
While he perfectly has the opportunity to put 2 people of seperate universes together and make a good connection.
Nobody so far has claimed to been architected.

I also asked him to reveal himself to me with a code but he hasnt yet.

This means i'm still in an architect chat with zealot since transporter swapped him.but he has stopped responding
ever since day hit and i've not heard from him since. So i wonder if he's dead.

Interesting, if true.

[M-FM Marksman]

Which night were you put into the chat? How do you know the other person in the chat was really Zealot?

[M-FM Yes]

Zealot and i were put into an Architect chat. We had a discussion but we didn't go to deep since we don't know if Architect is scum.

Why we thought he was scum, is basically this: he put 2 people of the same universe that town read each other.
While he perfectly has the opportunity to put 2 people of seperate universes together and make a good connection.
Nobody so far has claimed to been architected.

I also asked him to reveal himself to me with a code but he hasnt yet.

This means i'm still in an architect chat with zealot since transporter swapped him.but he has stopped responding
ever since day hit and i've not heard from him since. So i wonder if he's dead.

Well if he died then I find it a bit hard to believe the architect is scum. Could obviously be Tell though.

[M-FM Marksman]

Which night were you put into the chat?

nvm, it must have been last night.

[M-FM Almost Late]

I was put in the chat N3 but it should keep the chat open for the night and the next day.

I know it was Zealot because it was announced at the start who we were.

[M-FM Yes]

If arch isn't scum then they're probably in this universe. If they are they could be in either.

[M-FM Almost Late]

I think he's scum because a town architect would imo try to put 2 people from different universes in the chat
also this is the first archi chat we know. Why would he not use it every night.

[M-FM Yes]

I was put in the chat N3 but it should keep the chat open for the night and the next day.

I know it was Zealot because it was announced at the start who we were.

Target two players in any universe during the day, giving them access to an anonymous chat the following night and following day.
The announcement would have been written by the architect if you didn't just slip.

[M-FM Almost Late]

Yes we came to the conclusion it might be an archi of the other universe.

[M-FM Yes]

"One Introduction post for start of Architect chat."

[M-FM Almost Late]

The announcement was written by MattZed, i doubt we can lynch our host.

[M-FM Yes]

The announcement was written by MattZed, i doubt we can lynch our host.

Yeah he posted what the architect wrote???

[M-FM Yes]

Architect
Target two players in any universe during the day, giving them access to an anonymous chat the following night and following day.
Can not target self.
One Introduction post for start of Architect chat.
Architect can read the chat. But not talk.
-You have been put into an anonymous call:
MESSAGE

[M-FM Almost Late]

In my head there were 2 options. Either the archi wants us to slip. Or they want me to trust Zealot.

[M-FM Almost Late]

No look the first post simply was "Welcome M-FM Zealot and M-FM Almost Late"

[M-FM Almost Late]

Zealot and I also agreed we both thought Zyn would be a good lynch option.

[M-FM Yes]

No look the first post simply was "Welcome M-FM Zealot and M-FM Almost Late"

Yes. The Architect wrote that. The host posted the message the architect wrote. It's an anonymous chat.

[M-FM Yes]

@OrpZed
Is the architect chat anonymous? Would it by default make an announcement of who was joining the chat? That wouldn't be anonymous like the role card implies.

[M-FM Almost Late]

That would be interesting

[M-FM Marksman]

Pretty sure I know these answers, but I have thought so and been surprised before, so...
@OrpZed
Who writes the content of the intro post of an architect chat? If the architect writes it, who posts it in the chat?

[Forum Mafia GM]

@OrpZed
Is the architect chat anonymous? Would it by default make an announcement of who was joining the chat? That wouldn't be anonymous like the role card implies.

Architect chats are not anonymous. This was a typo from a previous version of the rolecard, which is now fixed.

Pretty sure I know these answers, but I have thought so and been surprised before, so...
@OrpZed
Who writes the content of the intro post of an architect chat? If the architect writes it, who posts it in the chat?

An Architect's message, if there is one, is given as part of day feedback.

[M-FM Almost Late]

I had no architect message in my feedback

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

That seems extremely careless of the architect to not at least give some sort of code he could give to identify him later.

I also think its convenient that Zealot and you were in the chat, and Zealot is not here today to contest(or affirm) the claim.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

By my count, Almost posted 33 times on Day 1, 8 times on day 2, 9 times on day 3, and 25 times today. What is to make us think you were any more talkative in a night chat?

This feels exactly like Yes is claiming; that you were active on D1 to gain Town Points, and then flew below the radar until people started looking at you too closely today.

[M-FM Almost Late]

I felt no need to mingle in D2 and 3 they were boring days where everybody lurked.

[M-FM Yes]

Ok well he's confirmed to be in an architect chat as far as I'm concerned. The host cleared up the anonymity lol.

[M-FM Almost Late]

Look at that boys 6 people browsing

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

Look at that boys 6 people browsing

I see you made a name for yourself.

[M-FM Almost Late]

Meh i knew eventually people would look at me too, i just make sure to have a good defense.

[M-FM Almost Late]

I'm pretty sad Zealot isn't responding , i'm 90% sure he isn't dead.

It would have given us so much information.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

@OrpZed Are roles unique?
Just to be safe, but I am going to assume no, AND that rng didnt make Zealot some enhanced citizen.

Whether or not that makes Almost Late scum or not is not totally telling (scum could have orchestrated this through their 24/7 chat), but I like stories in general so I am inclined to believe his claim.

[M-FM Almost Late]

If you are thinking i orchestrated this with zealot that would mean we had 3 scum in our universe. Which i doubt is the case.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

I actually give Cruise a slight town edge over Zyn. I feel like Zyn is coasting just like AL while Cruise is actually participating more. I'm not totally sold on kyoko, but I'm coming around on her. Mostly because the others are scummier than her atm.

Agreed, except for the part about me. I initially gave Zyn a town lean based on his seeming willingness to compromise, but he hasn't done too much. Cruise is a bit abrasive, and he has a different choice of people to poke at, but we don't have a real flip.

[M-FM Almost Late]

So basically one of us is scum. And potentially somebody else is Bell.

And i doubt many of us are comfirmable by role so we'll probably get vig/transporter and 4 citizens.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

If you are thinking i orchestrated this with zealot that would mean we had 3 scum in our universe. Which i doubt is the case.

No, I'm more wondering if you're scum by yourself and lied outright about the architect chat. Zealot isn't here to back you up, so you could claim it, and we wouldn't know until at least D5(when someone can come back from the other universe). Or, if he was hit last night, we'd never be able to determine.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

I felt no need to mingle in D2 and 3 they were boring days where everybody lurked.

I can't remember your posts from D2 and D3, but your explanation for why you weren't here is different. Didn't you say you were gone to Aachen? (Lol, where the heck is that anyway)
Particular thoughts/notable discoveries whilst you were "solving the game" those days?

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

@OrpZed Are roles unique?
Just to be safe, but I am going to assume no, AND that rng didnt make Zealot some enhanced citizen.

Whether or not that makes Almost Late scum or not is not totally telling (scum could have orchestrated this through their 24/7 chat), but I like stories in general so I am inclined to believe his claim.

So basically one of us is scum. And potentially somebody else is Bell.

And i doubt many of us are comfirmable by role so we'll probably get vig/transporter and 4 citizens.

Any reason why you think it is a vig? I gave my thought onto why it wouldn't be a vig.
I don't think we can rely on there being a transporter anymore. Zealot was against Marksman being sent to the other side, because maybe he couldn't send her?
If Moogle was Bell, then Zealot would not have to be a duplicate role. I sure hope they lynch Moogle over there.

[M-FM Almost Late]

Hmm ill say in my last defense my position as town leader was secure d1 if i was scum i wouldnt let that slip awat due to lazyness.

Ive been thinking if we have 2 or 3 tpr because that would mean one is still hiding.

And Aachen is west gernany

[M-FM Almost Late]

I saw the reasons you gave they were good

But for now ill say vig

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

@OrpZed Can a Mafia member in one universe be sent to night-kill someone in the other universe?

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

@OrpZed Can a Mafia member in one universe be sent to night-kill someone in the other universe?

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

If they can't, I have to wonder if they have have a Mafioso in the other universe that they're using for the night kills, to efficiently maximize night actions.

[M-FM Yes]

I think late could still be scum. It's pretty convenient that Zealot would stop talking so you can't let us know what happened over there.

[M-FM Yes]

I'm thinking that unless we get some info from the other side we lynch Late today. What do you guys think about that plan? Then vig can choose between Kyoko, Cruise and Zyn. Zyn being the best target for that shot tonight imo.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

I'm thinking that unless we get some info from the other side we lynch Late today. What do you guys think about that plan? Then vig can choose between Kyoko, Cruise and Zyn. Zyn being the best target for that shot tonight imo.

-vote M-FM Almost Late

[M-FM Marksman]

I think late could still be scum. It's pretty convenient that Zealot would stop talking so you can't let us know what happened over there.

Also, being in an architect chat with someone does not make a person town. So even if everything he said is true and zealot is actually dead/not talking to him, he could still be scum.

[M-FM Zynonymous]

Any reason why you think it is a vig? I gave my thought onto why it wouldn't be a vig.
I don't think we can rely on there being a transporter anymore. Zealot was against Marksman being sent to the other side, because maybe he couldn't send her?
If Moogle was Bell, then Zealot would not have to be a duplicate role. I sure hope they lynch Moogle over there.

If I remember correctly, you were also against Marksman being sent to the other side. Why was that?

And why can't there be a transporter?