M-FM Fringe: Alternate Universe

[M-FM Zynonymous]

Claim feedback.

I'm not sure if I'll live past today or tonight, so I might as well fuss up.

We have a bus driver as I was told that I took a ride last night. It could be in either universe. Quite possibly in the next universe, as I don't see why they would have targetted me last night.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

I still don't trust Almost, Kyoko, Zyn, or Yes. In that order. That would be my vote.

hint hint

[M-FM Yes]

I'm thinking Zyn, Kyoko, or Cruise. In that order.

[M-FM Yes]

Zyn and Kyoko keep hopping in and out but aren't actively helping out or participating. Cruise at least seems to be trying today which is nice to see even if half of his posts don't make any sense. Did Zyn come back with the feedback he was holding onto yet?

[M-FM Marksman]

I would like everyone to answer this: if we have a vig who should he shoot tonight and why?

I'm thinking Zyn, Kyoko, or Cruise. In that order.

Same answer.

Zyn and Kyoko keep hopping in and out but aren't actively helping out or participating. Cruise at least seems to be trying today which is nice to see even if half of his posts don't make any sense. Did Zyn come back with the feedback he was holding onto yet?

Yeah, that was basically my point about Cruise earlier- he at least has been trying all game whereas the others seem to be intentionally not doing much/laying low. No feedback has been given by Zyn afaik

[M-FM Yes]

@OrpZed If the universes combine will all of the dead players and roles be visible?

[Forum Mafia GM]

@OrpZed Are roles unique?

Not necessarily.

@OrpZed Can a Mafia member in one universe be sent to night-kill someone in the other universe?

No.

@OrpZed If the universes combine will all of the dead players and roles be visible?

No. The universes do not combine; merely one collapses. In this case, only the players who died in the non-collapsed universe will be visible.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Yeah, looking back, I'm not quite sure what I was thinking last night myself. >.>

[M-FM Marksman]

-unvote

Alrighty then.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

-unvote

Should we pressure Zyn for his feedback?

And what makes AL so sure there isn't a vig?

[M-FM Marksman]

Might as well do this then.

-vote M-FM Zynonymous

[M-FM Almost Late]

My gf is here but since you all cant figure it out. Im your damn transporter and i transported zealot since we shared a chat. Also there is no fucking vig. Unvote me already you wont get a counterclaim i hinted this a million times

[M-FM Marksman]

My gf is here but since you all cant figure it out. Im your damn transporter and i transported zealot since we shared a chat. Also there is no fucking vig. Unvote me already you wont get a counterclaim i hinted this a million times

How do you know there is no vigilante? You being transporter does not disprove the existence of a vigilante.

[M-FM Zynonymous]

Im your damn transporter and i transported zealot since we shared a chat.

I say that this is a despicable lie.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

-vote M-FM Zynonymous

[M-FM Almost Late]

Oke say there is a vig let him prove himself by killing zyn. Meanwhile mafia kills me since im an open target now. I would have swapped marksman. Its even stated in my lw but the architect didnt know my role so i thought ill make a super play. Shame zealot is mia

[M-FM Almost Late]

I still think bell might be here. Voting zyn is fine too ofcourse.

[M-FM Almost Late]

I simplt assume there is no vigi since he shot very late. Its possible but why shoot n3

[M-FM Almost Late]

If a vigi claim comes ill reconsider

[M-FM Yes]

-vote M-FM Zynonymous

lol why would vig claim now? that would be completely retarded

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

-vote M-FM Zynonymous

lol why would vig claim now? that would be completely retarded

Possible witch in this setup, which makes it completely retarded.

-vote M-FM Zynonymous

Let's see what happens.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

If Zyn flips scum, I suspect that we'll just be hunting Bell if nobody else warps over.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

As for who Vig should shoot, I'd say Zyn, Kyoko, or Yes, in that order. Although unless they've got a really strong train on the other side, I don't think Zyn will be around for the Vig.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

It's worth noting I'm much less certain about Yes than I am about Kyoko and Zyn at this moment. But Marksman has my trust as I said earlier, I'm not going to advocate my own death, and Almost isn't worth killing without a counterclaim from someone.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

I don't know how many charges Moogle has, but I hope he doesn't come back.
Zealot has like a real life heart attack, is scum, or is dead at this point. So I think other than a Bell shock, Moogle probably made it over.
I've got town reads on everyone except Zynonymous and Cruise. So in light of this, I think transporter should still send people over until he has like one charge left.

Might need to steal Bell over to this side at some point.

[M-FM Zynonymous]

Might need to steal Bell over to this side at some point.

I don't get the need for moving anyone except for town between universes either.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Can you explain why we would want to send people OUT of this universe, and then bring Bell into a depleted, low population universe and practically hand him a win?

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

Can you explain why we would want to send people OUT of this universe, and then bring Bell into a depleted, low population universe and practically hand him a win?

How is our universe low population?

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

How is our universe low population?

Assuming we lynch one, or have one night killed, and then the transporter sends one out? That's 4 people. That's pretty low.

[M-FM Zynonymous]

Too easy of a chance for Bell to be in the dying universe if people start leaving as well.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Too easy of a chance for Bell to be in the dying universe if people start leaving as well.

Exactly what I said above.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

So we've got 5 votes on Zynonymous, which means that if he flips Mafia, we probably don't have any mafia left in this universe.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

I think if this universe has less than four people, we should think EXTREMELY HARD about lynching unless we're 100% positive they're William Bell.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

I think if this universe has less than four people, we should think EXTREMELY HARD about lynching unless we're 100% positive they're William Bell.

Four or less, rather.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Also, if by some miracle Zyn flips William Bell, it should be top priority for AL to send someone to the other universe to spread the word over there.

[M-FM Yes]

Warp someone here to confirm yourself pls. Someone we haven't had before. I think badass or unknown would be good.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

@M-FM Zynonymous I take it this is a cit claim?

[Forum Mafia GM]

No one was lynched in this Universe.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Welcome to N4!

If you have a night action, please submit it at least an hour before night ends.

Living Players:
1. M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri
2. M-FM Yes
3. M-FM Zynonymous
4. M-FM Almost Late
5. M-FM Cruise Elroy
6. M-FM Marksman

Dead Players:
1. M-FM Kool-Aid - Citizen
2. AnassRhamur - Corrupted Enhanced Citizen

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[Forum Mafia GM]

Welcome to D5!

M-FM Marksman died last night. His role was Mayor.

M-FM Zynonymous died last night. His role was Corrupt Architect.

Living Players:
1. M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri
2. M-FM Yes
3. M-FM Almost Late
4. M-FM Cruise Elroy

Dead Players:
1. M-FM Kool-Aid - Citizen
2. AnassRhamur - Corrupted Enhanced Citizen
3. M-FM Marksman - Mayor
4. M-FM Zynonymous - Corrupt Architect

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[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Well, looks like Zyn was a good lynch, even if we didn't get him...here's my last will from last night.

Man, they must've had a really good lynch in the other universe for Zyn to survive five votes.

This does tell us that as of the end of the day, they had no less than five people alive in the other universe, as they would've needed 5 people to tie our lynchvote. They may have more.

Last night if I was dead I would've said Vig, but tonight I'm honestly not sure. I don't think I'm valuable enough for the Mafia to kill with as many power roles in the open as claimed, but Bell could've charged me.

Almost Late claims Transporter, and I trust Marksman completely. Yes is still questionable in my mind. Zyn and Kyoko are both lynchbait, and if they're both alive, I think one of them should have their neck stretched.

Be careful if there's only four or three people in the universe, as a mislynch would likely cost us the game.

Unknown claims Doctor. There's probably a town killing role(Veteran or Vigilante), and I place my money on Vig.

There's also claims of feedback for an architect and a bus driver. With three town power roles in the game already, one, if not both, of those is likely scum.

Also, regarding William Bell, at least three people universe are charged, since he's now had four nights to hand out charges and only one of us has died. (KoolAid doesn't count because he was dead before N1.) The only way this changes is if Rhamur was actually killed by charges, which I consider extremely unlikely.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

I also received no feedback.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

At this point I am extremely hesitant to lynch, since its quite possibly a losing move if William Bell is over here. I wish we knew if they'd lynched him on the other end.

We can rule out the existence of a Mayor in the other universe, which means my "Five people alive" thing is correct, since a Mayor was the only thing that could've changed the vote count. It may be very difficult for us to lynch with only three votes max(since whoever's the target won't be voting themselves!). That said, I don't know if we even have mafia left in this universe; splitting them 3/1 in the setup would be odd.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

If someone is in an architect chat with the people in the other universe, feel free to share information freely since Zyn can no longer read it.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Actually, strike that. There theoretically could be a second corrupt architect(although I view it very unlikely.)

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Anyways, I'm off to bed. I'll check in again in the morning.

[M-FM Yes]

rest in peace marksman ;-;

[M-FM Yes]

I think that pretty much confirms the existence of the vig. I think it's a safe bet they lynched Bell in the other universe last day. I'm like 70% on that. I think it's the only way they could pile enough votes on him to stop our lynch.

[M-FM Yes]

nothing happened to me last night

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

If Bell is/was in the other universe, I think we may not have anyone worth lynching over here. AL is the transporter(confirmed at this point in my mind), and one of the other three of us is a vig. Zealot is probably dead.