Marsh, Mac, Arrow, Loldebite, Ikarus and maybe Wisp.
I don’t think it’s the Kitty, I think Stellar is obvious town, Ultra was vibe town to me day 1 and I’m gonna trust Banana to not worry about PoD today and your neutral Achro.
Yep. Sabi cannot fake their level of town solving as mafia and fills the gaps with ate, shit posting, pocketing people they shouldn't be towreading and telling people to stop pushing their townreads etc.
Sabi as town is a compulsive aggressive gamesolver.
Can you actually say Sabi gave a fuck about where their vote ended up yesterday? It's obvious that they didn't to me. Literally look at the vote post.
Kuti has been largely been lacking in wanting to solve. Kuti's votes were all over the place, but most of them were on banana.
Arrow has been mostly absent in the game and I don't think he was present in EoD to vote?
W!MM might not have killed Ultra given how killing ultra auto points fingers at MM. Although MM was not tunneling on Ultra so I don't think he wanted to kill him.
Martin dying is what is puzzling to me.
I would've definitely killed T!Dark because he wasn't gonna get yeeted yesterday.
Maybe they knew Dark might receive protection? Idk.
Bruv Ika is lock lock town. Take them out of your POE lol.
The rest of your POE is totally reasonable for you to have.
What I recommend you do, is cross correlate your solve with Ultra's and sheep them on their most confident reads. Then just lock the game into automatic and have a chill.
You'll find that the game will slowly but surely destroy the wolves with ease if you do this lol.
You are a Gingerbread Bodyguard! At night you may target another player; If they are attacked, you will instead die. Upon death, your brittle body breaks apart and you can list 5 players, learning one townsperson amongst them.
By golly achro was right!
i thought that was a non mafia list lol
I actually don't care who is top townreads are cuz Martin is such a random he could have just reevaluated in the night and guarded a scumread lol.
Suffice to say, that he was not directly shot I can assure you of that haha.
But far out good job stopping the shot Martin have a gingerbread cookie buddy.
Why, I hear you ask, are you sure that Martin would not stop the shot?
Well because is my answer. Well, because.
Simply accept it you must.
I think Martin straight up has zero mafia in his POE and is townreading all the mafia and might have actually been straight popped because of it. It's exactly the type of cynical kill Kuti would make specifically because Kuti can't fake solve so they need things to hide behind like "OMG MAC MARTIN TOWNREAD ME I WOULD NEVER KILL HIM UR FUCKEN STUPID
*SELFVOTES AND LEAVES FOR AN HOUR*"
Also cuz he voted me til the last minute and has me in his POE you kill him and then hope you can push me as the c/w who the NK was scumreading lol.
I see through your shit Sabi.
Achro hold me back bro, hold me back
Least Ultra is in the top here so he could feasibly have stood in front of Ultra.
Anyway, I don't care about anything anymore because
a) Kuti is obvious mafia
b) Most of the rest of you are obviously not mafia
c) The names outside the above are so few that you could just chain them all together and win ie. just go like Arrow into Marshall into Debite into Wisp and if we lose well who cares it's just a game lol.
I'm the neutral who wants Kuti dead mechanically, you do you.
But yeah the wolf equity is 100% there and why I marked them.
ya Mac has me pocketed now
wat
Martin townread me quite hard with a very good reasoning that actually made me townread him back because he detected my mindset. Where are you getting that lol
Also, I would literally NEVER kill Martin as scum here, for that reason (unless WIFOM I guess)
That said, he was bodyguard. It's possible he died guarding someone. Have we looked for softclaims in his ISO to know who he targeted?
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Reading back at EOD. I checked Wisp's ISO, there's nothing indicating any reason to do this at all. He also ended up voting on Kuti at EOD, which feels utterly wrong considering it wasn't an option
Like, I don't understand Wisp's vote pattern from a town perspective. Says he doesn't want to vote Mac anymore for reasons unknown (later on there's a post that says he's "spooked" by mac potentially flipping town, which is like... ???), then votes DM, then votes Banana, allegedly to break Mac/Banana tie, and then ends up on Kuti out of all people.
From a scum Wisp perspective:
- Doesn't want to get too involved into pushing Banana because he digs his own grave by being unusual lol
- Doesn't feel the need to push Mac or to save him either
This feels like a wolf happy to sit away from the lynch to stay safe. OR he's teamed with Macdougall and thought it was best to distance, but in a vacuum (disregarding the fact mac isn't towny), this is less likely.
OR Wisp is actually town, but then I just don't see the thought progression at all.
-vote Wisp
When you can't see the progression is when you know Wisp is peak town tbh
oh good point
@Marshmallow Marshall
there is a carol between you, Kuti, and DM
so your vote today should be within Kuti/DM from v!you perspective
whatcha got there
LOL I don't know if that's actually true, but I will certainly have zero qualms doing this-vote Dark Magician
I guess Wisp can wait.
As for Kuti, perhaps I should ISO them further just to make sure? My townread on them is pretty much just based on two things: no red flags + the "tell me your favorite holiday or I can't do anything aaaa it's not that complicated!!!!!" post (already mentioned this, already know Wisp disagrees, already said I will not be stopped from townreading kuti for it :P), which is not TERRIBLY STRONG anyway
ikarus
Martin's reads don't seem that bad at all to me? Only real disagreement with the list that prompted your reaction (see spoiler below) is Wisp being up in the gook books (see my previous posts)
Spoiler : Martin's list :
Also, being killed for being wrong is um... rare, let's say. It's really just for WIFOM purposes, which isn't all that common.
Um, I mean, he is towny, considering his reaction to my push on him on early D1, but that's a little exaggerated lol
Those three posts really look like posts from an overly confident veteran... but a town one who's like "I'm cool, I know everything, I solve, I rock! *sunglasses on*". And it provides an explanation for reads, which wasn't there before
Honestly I like Mac better now, and scummy Wisp's EOD just reinforces that read
This is possible scum theatre. I don't see the "gaslighting" Wisp referred to (unless he just meant that DM is generally rude lol, but I don't think so, especially considering how experienced Wisp is; he knows the terms), and this interaction just makes so little sense, especially since it isn't followed by anything real (i.e. votes), despite being at EOD.
Yeah that sums up mac. I don't think his list is 3/3 tbh but I do think kuti has a lot more wolf equity than DM.
Soooo much focus from Arrow on claims and trying to figure out exact roles while giving LITERALLY NOTHING ELSE lol (look at his very short ISO). I know he's rusty, but he still has Mafia in mind and did play FM in the past, so this feels pretty hard to forgive.
Lynching Arrow over Banana would have been such a good move in hindsight.
reading back eod1: yes achro, Stellaris is indeed a very good game XD
sawree stellaria
Yeah, this is probably actually town, because there's no way in Hell, Heaven and anything inbetween that he actually thinks that could pass as scum. He is solving and having reasons for his often one-liner takes... IN HIS MIND. Because D1 mac ISO is definetly not as solvy as, say, Martin's or my own. Reminds me of SmartBomb on MU (a very cool guy if I dare say so myself), but in an overconfident and slightly annoying to play with version lol (don't worry, I don't hate you mac, I just don't like that style. You may call it a skill issue if you so desire.)
Toad is an old alt of Banana. People who've been around for (very) long know that (like POD). That explains his reaction. I somewhat like your insistance, tbh. However, considering your "banana hydra" stuff is basically the only big thing you've done this game, I am not exactly prone to townread you.
Look, if Kuti isn't a wolf I have no problem marking within those silly mediums
But I also have mech info that kuti lied about their role of giving things so, you know
feel good about my choice~
I don't think you read many of my posts if you don't think that I was solving a lot.
I didn't 150 post and write walls, but every post I made served a purpose of solving. Compare that with the intent behind Kuti's posts for instance?
Anyway... it's whatever. I agree that I wasn't as solvy as Martin, but I reckon I was solvier than you lol.
But hey, I also barely read any of your posts and thought you were mafia so maybe I shouldn't comment on other people's solviness when I've only read 20% of the game.
for all those complaining i didn't have an avatar, it's now been resolved
I mean, I also prefer social reads over setup reads, which is why I love mountainous games, but that doesn't make me literally disregard mechanical clues lol
Also, a scum medium claiming medium is not exactly unlikely, since it's commonly associated with town
I also don't really see what some people seem to see against Kuti (looking at you mac, in spite of your posts, I just don't buy that Kuti actually AIMED AT MARTIN, the bodyguard who died and might just have stood in front of someone else, just to... reverse frame themselves. That's honestly borderline silly xD.)
Oh that might make sense lol
I never understood how people could play FM from such tiny devices. (I just don't do it at all)
tango tango i guess
also I want to keep both mediums alive so we can get confirmation of martin's town peek