S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Purple]

I have to revisit my iso because i think i suspected her on day 1 but i forgot why. But if Kitty has a death tailor item…

Can the owner of the death tailor self target? Can it be activated during the day?

[FM-Blue Beard]

@FM-Blue Beard i wanna make surebyou understand that Inco is confirmed scum tied to another player, it sucks for Comrade if the lover thing is true but we have to kill Inco and Tess. Equally!

So let's start with Tesseract..... I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to kill Inco. I'm saying it doesn't make sense to kill him FIRST.

I stand by my statement. If EOD rolls around and Inco is still getting voted over Tess I'll shoot in the inco voter pool. It is a day shot.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

He can't chose.

He had to give any item to anyone N0. He hadn't had any interactions yet.

Giving the death tailor to someone makes most sense because mafia/town will act differently. Town will claim; mafia won't.

He has no choice on then using the action- he has to guess Kitty's alignment at EOD. If he guesses wrong he dies. He's alive, so he guessed right.

I do wonder if there's some weird potential w/w going on here but need to logic it out

I do not like that you are answering this. Its something that needs to provide their reasoning. Immediately gave me the feeling you could be aligned somewhere. Maybe you want to get the pressure off the Tess/Incon/Purple situation?

@FM-Its SOMETHING
Can you clarify your thought process on giving a death tailor to someone N0 and also giving it to a player you were willing to bet your life on that they are mafia?

Also, Why do you scum read Leaf? They are a town read for me.

[FM-Blue Beard]

So let's start with Tesseract..... I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to kill Inco. I'm saying it doesn't make sense to kill him FIRST.

I stand by my statement. If EOD rolls around and Inco is still getting voted over Tess I'll shoot in the inco voter pool. It is a day shot.

This is a direct threat to all voting Inconspicuous over Tess at the moment.

Make your choice now.
@FM-Chad Knight , @FM-Purple , @FM-ohno , @FM-Kitty Cat Dance , @FM-Earless Artiste , @FM-Demonic TP , @FM-Mr Pain

[FM-Father and Sun]

So let's start with Tesseract..... I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to kill Inco. I'm saying it doesn't make sense to kill him FIRST.

I stand by my statement. If EOD rolls around and Inco is still getting voted over Tess I'll shoot in the inco voter pool. It is a day shot.

Sounds like Bizaro has sent in a shot so might all be resolved

[FM-Blue Beard]

I do not like that you are answering this. Its something that needs to provide their reasoning. Immediately gave me the feeling you could be aligned somewhere. Maybe you want to get the pressure off the Tess/Incon/Purple situation?

@FM-Its SOMETHING
Can you clarify your thought process on giving a death tailor to someone N0 and also giving it to a player you were willing to bet your life on that they are mafia?

Also, Why do you scum read Leaf? They are a town read for me.

Begging its something for clarification is just giving them more opportunities to weasel out of that ridiculous move..

[FM-Father and Sun]

I do not like that you are answering this. Its something that needs to provide their reasoning. Immediately gave me the feeling you could be aligned somewhere. Maybe you want to get the pressure off the Tess/Incon/Purple situation?

@FM-Its SOMETHING
Can you clarify your thought process on giving a death tailor to someone N0 and also giving it to a player you were willing to bet your life on that they are mafia?

Also, Why do you scum read Leaf? They are a town read for me.

I was also wrong with what I said.

I've come round to thinking its likely w/w

[FM-Purple]

So let's start with Tesseract..... I'm not saying it doesn't make sense to kill Inco. I'm saying it doesn't make sense to kill him FIRST.

I stand by my statement. If EOD rolls around and Inco is still getting voted over Tess I'll shoot in the inco voter pool. It is a day shot.

I favor chopping Tess first. He clears and out a lot of people.

-vote FM-Tesseract

[FM-Mafia Bro]

In my notes I have them as wolf.

My reads
1. Villageish on Chage-Kitty-Demonic-Its Something-Blue Beard. Playing like villagers
2. Oh no seems v
3. Dark Unicorn(?)

SCUM
1. Mafia Bro is not really playing or believing his reads. Mr bones tooo
2. Mr Pain is illogical with reads and makes strange/bad pushes
3. Inconspicuous man is red check + lolcating
4. Purple-Tess red checks and lies! v read them on tone

What makes you say I don't believe my reads?

Also "He'S nOt EvEn PlAyInG" is a super outdated read at this point

[FM-Father and Sun]

What makes you say I don't believe my reads?

Also "He'S nOt EvEn PlAyInG" is a super outdated read at this point

I don't think we've been here at same time today so maybe. I found you very that way D1

[FM-Chad Knight]

-There is no factional kill in ?KRC games (except maybe arso), only role KP
-There is more than one scum faction (counting solos) who can kill.

with those things in mind how does roleblocking me even remotly implicate im evil? Esoecially considering my role cant even be roleblocked

Uh, I didn’t say that those things existed. I said they could exist. Don’t put words in my mouth.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I feel like those are dangerous assumptions.

If past games have been a certain way it does not mean this one is the same just because roles are submitted.

Hard agree

[FM-Chad Knight]

I still have a feeling that Tesseract is town, despite his best attempts to convince me otherwise. I won’t be voting there.

[FM-Father and Sun]

Submitted.

I'm just waiting for this right now

[FM-Mafia Bro]

-vote FM-Kitty Cat Dance

[FM-Mafia Bro]

He can't chose.

He had to give any item to anyone N0. He hadn't had any interactions yet.

Giving the death tailor to someone makes most sense because mafia/town will act differently. Town will claim; mafia won't.

He has no choice on then using the action- he has to guess Kitty's alignment at EOD. If he guesses wrong he dies. He's alive, so he guessed right.

I do wonder if there's some weird potential w/w going on here but need to logic it out

Possible but not gonna worry about that until cat flips

[FM-Mafia Bro]

They gave their slight scum read a death tailor.

Very bright.

On n0 tho

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I wouldnt send out an item on n0 with no info, that is standard procedure where i come from.

The implication was that he didn't have a choice

[FM-ohno]

The implication was that he didn't have a choice

Honestly, do any of you even read mechnics before joining?

STANDARD "Role Balance" doesnt NOT apply to ?KRC. There can be fucking 25 cops for all we know

Also, please read someones claim before complaining about sonethibg they did. Something was obligated to submit

[FM-ohno]

Honestly, do any of you even read mechnics before joining?

STANDARD "Role Balance" doesnt NOT apply to ?KRC. There can be fucking 25 cops for all we know

Also, please read someones claim before complaining about sonethibg they did. Something was obligated to submit

this is a reply to the person mr bro was replying to

[FM-Mafia Bro]

I feel like their claim isn't actually that hard to understand??

They had to give out an item n0. You know, BEFORE the thread is open. They gave death tailor to kitty. AFTER that, during d1, when the thread was open, they developed a slight scumread on kitty. AFTER giving them the item, because n0 happens before d1. They heavily scumread leaf during d1, and read kitty as being teamed with leaf, so they guessed that kitty was mafia on n1. They did not die, thus kitty is outed from their pov.


Like it's a bit convoluted as a role, but it's honestly not THAT hard to understand, and anyone saying "WHYD YOU GIVE A SCUMREAD A DEATH TAILOR" isn't reading closely enough cause that isn't what he's claiming

[FM-Mafia Bro]

this is a reply to the person mr bro was replying to

That makes more sense lol

[FM-Father and Sun]

I feel like their claim isn't actually that hard to understand??

They had to give out an item n0. You know, BEFORE the thread is open. They gave death tailor to kitty. AFTER that, during d1, when the thread was open, they developed a slight scumread on kitty. AFTER giving them the item, because n0 happens before d1. They heavily scumread leaf during d1, and read kitty as being teamed with leaf, so they guessed that kitty was mafia on n1. They did not die, thus kitty is outed from their pov.


Like it's a bit convoluted as a role, but it's honestly not THAT hard to understand, and anyone saying "WHYD YOU GIVE A SCUMREAD A DEATH TAILOR" isn't reading closely enough cause that isn't what he's claiming

Yh I got it straight away. Its simpler than other roles that have flipped

[FM-Mafia Bro]

He probably should have given out the vest n0, if he is in fact town

[FM-Blue Beard]

On n0 tho

Oh, I'm an idiot. I missed that.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I feel like their claim isn't actually that hard to understand??

They had to give out an item n0. You know, BEFORE the thread is open. They gave death tailor to kitty. AFTER that, during d1, when the thread was open, they developed a slight scumread on kitty. AFTER giving them the item, because n0 happens before d1. They heavily scumread leaf during d1, and read kitty as being teamed with leaf, so they guessed that kitty was mafia on n1. They did not die, thus kitty is outed from their pov.


Like it's a bit convoluted as a role, but it's honestly not THAT hard to understand, and anyone saying "WHYD YOU GIVE A SCUMREAD A DEATH TAILOR" isn't reading closely enough cause that isn't what he's claiming

2nd time people are doing this.

Please do not answer for Its something. Feeding them arguments is anti-town.

If they are telling the truth they should be able to explain. Explaining for them ruins the reads we could get from their responses. If they are being honest they do not need other people rationalizing their behavior for them.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

2nd time people are doing this.

Please do not answer for Its something. Feeding them arguments is anti-town.

If they are telling the truth they should be able to explain. Explaining for them ruins the reads we could get from their responses. If they are being honest they do not need other people rationalizing their behavior for them.

It's literally already in the thread my dude

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Like I'm not putting any words in their mouth, im literally just condensing/streamlining what they've already said.

It's not my fault I'm better at it than you, don't be a hater bro

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Like I'm not putting any words in their mouth, im literally just condensing/streamlining what they've already said.

It's not my fault I'm better at it than you, don't be a hater bro

If I thought what they said was clear I would not be asking. Obviously multiple people feel the same. What does it hurt to let them speak for themselves?

[FM-Mafia Bro]

If I thought what they said was clear I would not be asking. Obviously multiple people feel the same. What does it hurt to let them speak for themselves?

Right, so asking for clarification is fine, but don't get pissy about it when someone else restates what's already been said and act as if your inability to understand a straightforward concept is somehow going to catch them out in a lie lol

[FM-Mafia Bro]

"I don't understand this"

"Ok, here's the same thing in a simpler form"

"Fuck you only one person is allowed to explain things"

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Right, so asking for clarification is fine, but don't get pissy about it when someone else restates what's already been said and act as if your inability to understand a straightforward concept is somehow going to catch them out in a lie lol

I do not feel like that is what you are doing though. I feel like you are making arguments for them. It does not help that I think you are not town but 2 things jumped to my mind when you responded.

Maybe you want to support anything to draw attention away from the Incon, Tess, Purple situation so maybe there is a wolf in there who you are aligned with?
Or maybe you are aligned with Its Something and do not feel comfortable letting me examine their thoughts without a bit of coaching?

Either way I don't trust you and I do not like you answering for Its Something. I am more comfortable with Blue Beard but I also did not like them doing it. If you are doing it in good faith it does not help to make assumptions on behalf of someone else. You should instead want to understand their thought process so you can sort who is lying and make an informed decision with your vote.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

No assumptions were made, I literally just restated the information they ALREADY provided. I added none of my own, made no assumptions, added no context.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

"I don't understand this"

"Ok, here's the same thing in a simpler form"

"Fuck you only one person is allowed to explain things"

Its not about understanding it. Its about getting Something to explain their reasoning so we have more material to analyze the situation with.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

No assumptions were made, I literally just restated the information they ALREADY provided. I added none of my own, made no assumptions, added no context.

No. And with what you said you eliminated potential slips they could have made if they are lying. If you can not see that you might not be as clever as you think you are.

Either way we should not go into it until they Its Something responds unless you want to screw up the situation more and coach them.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Of all the conversations in the thread somehow this is the dumbest. Incredible stuff.

[FM-Purple]

The implication was that he didn't have a choice

He didnt have a choice sending the death tailor to check someone?
I dont believe it

[FM-Mafia Bro]

No. And with what you said you eliminated potential slips they could have made if they are lying. If you can not see that you might not be as clever as you think you are.

Either way we should not go into it until they Its Something responds unless you want to screw up the situation more and coach them.

Its not my fault you can't read lol

[FM-Mafia Bro]

He didnt have a choice sending the death tailor to check someone?
I dont believe it

He didn't have a choice sending an item according to him, sending death tailor was questionable

[FM-Purple]

Possible but not gonna worry about that until cat flips

So there was two red checks and you voted me instead, someone outs a weird looking red check and you vote there?

You are aligned Tess and Inco, are you not?

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

@Blue Beard

you visited me last night, right?

[FM-Purple]

He didn't have a choice sending an item according to him, sending death tailor was questionable

No shit.

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

@Blue Beard

you visited me last night, right?

shit wrong ping. sorry

[FM-Purple]

Honestly, do any of you even read mechnics before joining?

STANDARD "Role Balance" doesnt NOT apply to ?KRC. There can be fucking 25 cops for all we know

Also, please read someones claim before complaining about sonethibg they did. Something was obligated to submit

They were not obligated to choose death tailor though? Did they?

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

@Blue Beard

you visited me last night, right?

@FM-Blue Beard

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Of all the conversations in the thread somehow this is the dumbest. Incredible stuff.

Telling yourself everyone else is stupid when you do not understand why multiple people have the same issue is one way to justify your ignorance.

...Or you could watch what other people are doing to get a read on what they are thinking and looking at? Even if I am the ignorant one in this situation you could still read me based on my behavior instead of attacking me for asking a question to someone else. It really makes me feel like you are not objective in this situation and have some interest in this lynch past the potential of Kitty being Mafia.

[FM-Kitty Cat Dance]

I'll come back in thread once beard answers me.

[FM-Mafia Bro]

So there was two red checks and you voted me instead, someone outs a weird looking red check and you vote there?

You are aligned Tess and Inco, are you not?

Yeah I believe theirs and I don't believe yours lol

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Well, I believe inco is mafia, but I don't believe you lol

[FM-Mafia Bro]

Telling yourself everyone else is stupid when you do not understand why multiple people have the same issue is one way to justify your ignorance.

...Or you could watch what other people are doing to get a read on what they are thinking and looking at? Even if I am the ignorant one in this situation you could still read me based on my behavior instead of attacking me for asking a question to someone else. It really makes me feel like you are not objective in this situation and have some interest in this lynch past the potential of Kitty being Mafia.

Ok boomer