M-FM Fringe: Prime Universe

[Unknown1234]

Because in a normal world, if someone claims a role do you ask them "are you sure?"

[M-FM Harbinger]

Because in a normal world, if someone claims a role do you ask them "are you sure?"

I really hate it when people are sticklers on the verbiage used. It means Jack all. He just wanted to make sure you were positive and given that you have left room for whether or not I actually slipped (I know I didn't because I know I am Town [anyone who plays with me enough knows what I think of slips]), it means there is room for people to question whether you actually got a check on me or not. Also, if you are Sheriff, that means you have had 4 days to have checked people. That would mean you should be able to clear pretty much everyone in this universe (baring that your checks are still alive) and I don't see you doing that. this last bit is really telling.

-vote Unknown1234

[M-FM Badass]

Fairly certain harbinger is David Jones and slipped when he called me Detective. Badass slipped by automatically assuming I'm Sheriff and questioning my Sheriff check on Harbinger.

Excuse me? From always when you get a RED CHECK on someone it's because you're sheriff and investigated someone and got a mafia in RED COLOR.

[M-FM Badass]

I really hate it when people are sticklers on the verbiage used. It means Jack all. He just wanted to make sure you were positive and given that you have left room for whether or not I actually slipped (I know I didn't because I know I am Town [anyone who plays with me enough knows what I think of slips]), it means there is room for people to question whether you actually got a check on me or not. Also, if you are Sheriff, that means you have had 4 days to have checked people. That would mean you should be able to clear pretty much everyone in this universe (baring that your checks are still alive) and I don't see you doing that. this last bit is really telling.

-vote Unknown1234

Your defense is pointless. The fact that you have voted the 99.9% confirmed town is even more pointless.

[M-FM Badass]

Badass why did you question my check?

I want to makr sure.

[M-FM Badass]

I'm currently thinking of DW and Harbinger being scum tram

[deathworlds]

bleh

-vote M-FM Harbinger

[Unknown1234]

I announced out loud that I am not sheriff.

[Unknown1234]

Well I'm not Sheriff though lol.

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Quick if you are town again I am going to be really pissed.

[M-FM Badass]

I announced out loud that I am not sheriff.

Kk N1 --

[Sino]

Lynching Quick a second time in the same game ? Hell yeah, count me in !

[M-FM Harbinger]

Your defense is pointless. The fact that you have voted the 99.9% confirmed town is even more pointless.

I really am starting to think that Unknown is William Bell, regardless of what you think my alignment is.

[M-FM Harbinger]

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Quick if you are town again I am going to be really pissed.

There should be no question in your mind if I am Town or not. You said you had a check on me and have yet to give any details other than saying that you are not sheriff. I explained the only way you could have a red check on me is if you were detective since it would require me to be bussed, but I was not bussed. AFAIK, alignment is not taken under consideration upon sheriff checks and being bussed, but again I was not bussed so there is no room there for you to have a guilty on me.

I guess the last thing for me to do is to make a last will that details why I think Unknown is William Bell. Without the details of Unknowns claim, you guys have no way of testing the validity of his claim. Don't let William Bell go free under the assumption that he was saved from NK.

[M-FM Harbinger]

Badass didn't question you check.. WTF?

@Mod, If William Bell is saved from NK by doc, will the doc receive feedback that they made a save?

Just quoting this, ya know, for my health I guess.

[Unknown1234]

Im not a checking role if that wasn't clear to you.

[Unknown1234]

I know you are lying because you aren't acting like someone who isn't scum.

If i was town and someone said i was scum and i wasn't, I would be increddibly pissed.

That being said, your defense on why you said detective is completely terrible. I would be incredibly surprised if you were anything but David Jones, considering you aren't even defending yourself as town or claiming otherwise except to say "He is William Bell."

[M-FM Harbinger]

I know you are lying because you aren't acting like someone who isn't scum.

If i was town and someone said i was scum and i wasn't, I would be increddibly pissed.

That being said, your defense on why you said detective is completely terrible. I would be incredibly surprised if you were anything but David Jones, considering you aren't even defending yourself as town or claiming otherwise except to say "He is William Bell."

Subjective interpretation. I do a lot of things that are "scummy" as Town. I think that should be fairly obvious to you given that you have already lynched me thinking I was Scum, but actually wasn't. How is this different?

What makes you think I am not upset? I have literally already shown my frustration. You are full of shit.

You are being dumb here. What am I supposed to say? I already said I am Town a million times. I already know you have to be William Bell. You were "saved" from NK N1, but that doesn't at ally mean that you can't be William Bell. And since We haven't seen any extra NKs, we know that Mafia are the only NKing role in this universe. That means since you were saved from NK you can't be Mafia. Furthermore, there is no possible way you can have a red check on me that is at all verifiable.

[Unknown1234]

You have 5 votes on you and 4 hours to go. Anything I, as well as the town, should know?

[Unknown1234]

There is no good reason for me to believe you at all.

[M-FM Harbinger]

You have 5 votes on you and 4 hours to go. Anything I, as well as the town, should know?

There is no good reason for me to believe you at all.

It looks like you are talking out of two sides of your mouth mate.

I have made my last will and it is the first time I have ever made a last will. In the will I detail why you have to be William Bell. Its pretty much just the same things I have said here. Town is really stupid this game.

[M-FM Harbinger]

Im not a checking role if that wasn't clear to you.

Well, that's kinda the only way you can know my alignment, so there's that.

[Unknown1234]

K, as helpful as you have(nt) been this game, writing a last will actually does nothing if you're Town so I will take this as you claiming scum.

[M-FM Harbinger]

K, as helpful as you have(nt) been this game, writing a last will actually does nothing if you're Town so I will take this as you claiming scum.

Err, what? you are basically saying that I am Scum because I wrote a last will. That is a stupid argument, buddy.

[M-FM Harbinger]

First Unknown says he has a RED CHECK on me. Then he says he isn't sheriff.

I demand an explanation on your check on me. If you can't come up with one before I die, we should lynch you tomorrow since you can just come up with a story to suit your needs after my last will is given.

[M-FM Badass]

First Unknown says he has a RED CHECK on me. Then he says he isn't sheriff.

I demand an explanation on your check on me. If you can't come up with one before I die, we should lynch you tomorrow since you can just come up with a story to suit your needs after my last will is given.

Can you role claim, please?

[deathworlds]

Can you role claim, please?

^^

[M-FM Harbinger]

Citizen.

[Forum Mafia GM]

M-FM Harbinger has been lynched! His role is David Robert Jones.

M-FM Harbinger left a last will:

Spoiler : Last Will :

Yes, I am the Godfather, David Robert Jones. I have come to tell you that Unknown is in fact William Bell. There is a simple line of reasoning that tells me this.

You see, I was put in place as GF without knowing that there was a choice between two different immunities that M-FM Town had to choose from at the beginning of the game. Furthermore, I was not given a PM detailing which immunity I had until I had PMed the mod asking about this.

So I was under the assumption that my alignment would show up as green as per normal for GF, which is why when I said the only way Unknown could have a red check on me is if he detected that I targeted Zealot for the NK. I threw in the thing about being bussed just to try and save my ass. So yes, I did make a slip and say he would have to have detected me via bus rather than me being bussed with a mafia member giving away my alignment that way. I did this because I didn't think my alignment could have possibly been known through a sheriff check since none of my teammates were bussed either. So now here is the happy little accident that I made in making my slip saying I would have had to have been detected: I have detection immunity - that is what M-FM Town chose as his immunity. The only action I have made all game is that I tried to kill Unknown N1. So the only way Unknown could have had a red check on me is if he was sheriff, which he has clarified twice at the point of me writing that that he is not.

Also left in question is if Unknown checked me any other night other than the previous night, then it is logical to assume that Unknown would have brought this information to the public eye the previous day. The reason for this is that under normal circumstances, he is all but confirmed as being Town given that he was saved by Wildcard on night 1. So naturally, since Unknown is psudo confirmed as Town he has nothing to lose from claiming that M-FM Town was Mafia on Day 4. On top of this, M-FM Town was replaced for not making any posts Day 4. So this gives Unknown the perfect opportunity to come out and Tell people that M-FM Town is mafia. But Unknown never even suggests voting for M-FM Town on Day 4.

I think its pretty clear to see that Unknown is in fact William Bell.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Welcome to N4!

If you have a night action, please submit it at least an hour before night ends.

M-FM Harbinger left a last will:

Spoiler : Last Will :

Yes, I am the Godfather, David Robert Jones. I have come to tell you that Unknown is in fact William Bell. There is a simple line of reasoning that tells me this.

You see, I was put in place as GF without knowing that there was a choice between two different immunities that M-FM Town had to choose from at the beginning of the game. Furthermore, I was not given a PM detailing which immunity I had until I had PMed the mod asking about this.

So I was under the assumption that my alignment would show up as green as per normal for GF, which is why when I said the only way Unknown could have a red check on me is if he detected that I targeted Zealot for the NK. I threw in the thing about being bussed just to try and save my ass. So yes, I did make a slip and say he would have to have detected me via bus rather than me being bussed with a mafia member giving away my alignment that way. I did this because I didn't think my alignment could have possibly been known through a sheriff check since none of my teammates were bussed either. So now here is the happy little accident that I made in making my slip saying I would have had to have been detected: I have detection immunity - that is what M-FM Town chose as his immunity. The only action I have made all game is that I tried to kill Unknown N1. So the only way Unknown could have had a red check on me is if he was sheriff, which he has clarified twice at the point of me writing that that he is not.

Also left in question is if Unknown checked me any other night other than the previous night, then it is logical to assume that Unknown would have brought this information to the public eye the previous day. The reason for this is that under normal circumstances, he is all but confirmed as being Town given that he was saved by Wildcard on night 1. So naturally, since Unknown is psudo confirmed as Town he has nothing to lose from claiming that M-FM Town was Mafia on Day 4. On top of this, M-FM Town was replaced for not making any posts Day 4. So this gives Unknown the perfect opportunity to come out and Tell people that M-FM Town is mafia. But Unknown never even suggests voting for M-FM Town on Day 4.

I think its pretty clear to see that Unknown is in fact William Bell.

Living Players:
1. M-FM Badass
2. deathworlds
3. Unknown1234
4. Sino
5. M-FM Moogle

Dead Players:
1. Quick - Citizen
2. M-FM Wildcard - Doctor
3. M-FM On Time Firebringer - Citizen
4. M-FM Zealot - Bus Driver
5. M-FM Town M-FM Harbinger - David Robert Jones

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[Forum Mafia GM]

Note: M-FM Harbinger had a last will, and this has since been edited in.

[Forum Mafia GM]

@Mod, If William Bell is saved from NK by doc, will the doc receive feedback that they made a save?

No. Immune players cannot be successfully saved by a doctor.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Welcome to D5!

No one died in this universe last night!

Living Players:
1. M-FM Badass
2. deathworlds
3. Unknown1234
4. Sino
5. M-FM Moogle

Dead Players:
1. Quick - Citizen
2. M-FM Wildcard - Doctor
3. M-FM On Time Firebringer - Citizen
4. M-FM Zealot - Bus Driver
5. M-FM Town M-FM Harbinger - David Robert Jones

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[deathworlds]

Me thinks its time for mass roleclaim?

[M-FM Badass]

I would like to ask Moogle his role.

[Sino]

Me thinks its time for mass roleclaim?

We don't have to do it right now, we can also just let the other universe get the lynch this time.

[M-FM Badass]

Moogle claimed Enhanced Citizen, didnt he?

[M-FM Badass]

Well yeah, he has to claim that because the Transporter transported Zealot.

-vote M-FM Moogle

[Sino]

Moogle claimed Enhanced Citizen, didnt he?

He didn't claim anything.

[M-FM Badass]

I think this is the setup that I've checked the most.

[Unknown1234]

I almost died of laughter after Quick wrote his last will, immediately following my confirmation that I'm not the neutral.

[Sino]

I like how everytime he comes back, he gets lynched.

Veni, Vidi, Lynchi

[Unknown1234]

Badass, to me, felt like he slipped by asking repeatedly if I had actually checked the right person. I mean, seriously? I could read who I checked so I wouldn't make such a stupid error.

[Sino]

Badass, to me, felt like he slipped by asking repeatedly if I had actually checked the right person. I mean, seriously? I could read who I checked so I wouldn't make such a stupid error.

How about we let the other universe lynch today ?

[Unknown1234]

Seems alright to me, but I'd rather be cautious and put like, two votes on someone incase the other pool is moronic.

[Sino]

Don't forget we could have William Bell in this universe, with only 5 of us here, he could get a very quick win.

[M-FM Badass]

I recommend not visiting anymore. It is D5 and William Bell will have charged many people. To prevent 2 towns dying, don't visit if you're TPR.

Now, I'm still waiting for Moogle to confirm that he is an Enhanced Citizen (although I'm sure he is)

[deathworlds]

I recommend not visiting anymore. It is D5 and William Bell will have charged many people. To prevent 2 towns dying, don't visit if you're TPR.

Now, I'm still waiting for Moogle to confirm that he is an Enhanced Citizen (although I'm sure he is)

I would also like the archon to claim as well. They heavily implied that they are enchanted citizen, but i'd like them to confirm.

[Sino]

I feel like the best case scenario for the town would be to have this universe collapse while we're 100% sure William Bell isn't in it, in any case we need a lot of communication between both universes now.

[deathworlds]

I feel like the best case scenario for the town would be to have this universe collapse while we're 100% sure William Bell isn't in it, in any case we need a lot of communication between both universes now.

Such a suggestion is mad!

We have no definite way of tracking William Bell, we should only risk collasping a universe when William is in the graveyard.

[deathworlds]

Leaving my vote here until they claim.

-vote M-FM Moogle