Day 2

[FM Galloway]

FM Cohen (4 [L-13]):
FM Ackerman, FM Cafarelli, FM Black, FM Hogeboom

FM Monroe (6 [L-11]):
FM Lichtmann, FM Cohen, FM Donnelly, FM Kalou, FM Fontaine, FM Mendez

Additionally neither of these lynches have enough substance on them to warrent the votes on them. It is uber downs to assume that a guy who trolled like Monroe did is scum and someone faking poisned d1 with the use he showed is scum either.

[FM Ferengi]

Can the blackmailer request a task that can't be completed within 1 day?

No.

[FM Parker]

Being require to claim both poisoned and not healed forces him to take both days.

No. It does not.

Cohen claiming poisoned is a Drug Dealer.

The lack of a heal is logical supposing the town followed up on his request not to be healed to confirm or deny the presence of a poisoner.

@Galloway, I wasn't labeling him as a jester. I was questioning your vote based on the assumption he was a jester.

@Galloway, please generate your own theory about what happened the first two nights in the game please or modify mine. Mine suggest Cafarelli is scum due to how the mafia's actions line up and his/her FoS on Cohen.

[FM Black]

Chapman, on D1 #555, you seem to be claiming to be vig. Is this correct?

If so, why would you be claiming so early?

And why do you find the need for Ackmen to die without much info?

How did your shot at Ackmen go?

Chapman still never answered my question.
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Monroe's mayor reveal seems like a stupid joke to me....which only made him seem more scummy.
Unless of course he actually was Mayor....BEFORE HE WAS SAVAGED! I dunno...just hypoing...
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As for Licht, he seems to avoid answer why he was using inviso text in day 1.... Find it odd, but it may have been for a legit reason.

[FM Ackerman]

By the way, I was thinking about this soma think, anyone intending to pass soma should use it as a messaging system (Mayor if he exists). Pass it to someone with a message saying where it should go down the chain, and a message each player should use to prove they received it.

Example mayor passes soma to A who should say B and then pass it to C with message D.
In fact by nesting these you can force the entire chain and force anyone who uses it to justify their actions.

[FM Ackerman]

No.

That's the only way I can find cohen innocent, I'm all in now.

[FM Monroe]

Monroe's mayor reveal seems like a stupid joke to me....which only made him seem more scummy.
Unless of course he actually was Mayor....BEFORE HE WAS SAVAGED! I dunno...just hypoing...

Naw man. Alpha males are immune.

As for Licht, he seems to avoid answer why he was using inviso text in day 1.... Find it odd, but it may have been for a legit reason.

Is fun a legit reason to you? I mean, it's not like his invisible text was hidden or anything.

[FM Black]

Naw man. Alpha males are immune.


Is fun a legit reason to you? I mean, it's not like his invisible text was hidden or anything.

If Litch can't talk about it, he could have been blackmailed.

[FM Colmyer]

He died of an overdose.

[FM Colmyer]

He was an addict.

[FM Monroe]

If Litch can't talk about it, he could have been blackmailed.

If it was caused by a blackmail, he would have been finished after day 1 and would've been able to say he had been blackmailed at the start of day 2. I thought this was discussed somewhere around the start of the day already? I also think it would be a useless way to apply blackmailing, because it doesn't really have any effect besides irritating some players who can't stand invisible text.

[FM Parker]

That's the only way I can find cohen innocent, I'm all in now.

I strongly believe Cohen is innocent. The groundwork for his assumptions are very well made.

First, he announces poisoned. He later asks not to be healed to confirm poisoner in the game or not. His death would have confirmed a role and something most players would be willing to do in mafia.

He lacks a heal message. Therefore, he was drugged twice, not healed or lying.

I admit, my scenario eliminates drugged twice.

Why is it illogical to assume that a player who requested to be healed was not healed?

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I also find Cafarelli's claim of investigator suspicious. She claims Drug Dealer blocked her role. This gives several benefits to the mafia. 1) The trolls coming later look scummy because the drug result is already in play. 2) It provides a natural lynch chain of an innocent townie.

The catch is Cafarelli should have two leads. I doubt she was drugged twice.

Furthermore, claiming visitations that will be proven not to exist is sketchy the first day. The risk is high and the reward low given the amount of blackmailers and other grief causing roles.

[FM Galloway]

Night 0

Godfather kills.
Kidnapper busses Anonymous with Morgan.Y It was night 0 and there were 3 bus claims. WE DONT KNOW WHO BUSSED WHO SO STATING THIS LIKE YOU DID PREVIOUSlS THE SCUMMIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN.
Blackmailer blackmails Morgan to keep quiet. ALL MORGAN DID YESTERDAY WAS TALK HOW CAN YOU EVEN ASSUME HE WAS BM'D TO BE SILENCED LIKE THIS? WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS? OF COURSE! ITS SCUMMY TO SUGGEST. MISDIRECTION MUCH?
Blackmailer blackmails Colmyer to claim roleblocked (hence the extra roleblocked between day 1 and day 2)LOL WHAT? WHY WOULD THIS EVEN BE A POSSIBILITY? HOW COULD YOU EVER THINK THIS IN ANY LOGICAL FORM? THAT IS THE BIGGEST WASTE OF A BM TARGET I HAVE EVER SEEN. SERIOUSLY HOW WOULD THIS BE REASONABLLY LOGICAL?
Drug Dealer visits Cohen and lies to him about him being poisoned.THIS IS LOGICAL. I SUSPECT THIS GREATLY.
Consigliere gathers information.WHY DO YOU ASSUME CONSIG? WHATEVER ILL GO WITH IT.

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Night 1

GF kills.
Kidnapper busses Morgan or Colmyer.SCUMMY SUGGESTION. SCUMMY. SCUMMY. SCUMMY. WHY SO SCUMMY?
Blackmailer blackmails Morgan or Colmyer again.ASSUMING THEY WERE EVEN BM'D. ITS ILLOGICAL TO THINK THIS ANYWAYS!
DD handles the other with the same message (as required by the rule cards).LIKELY.
Blackmailer blackmails Monroe to claim Mayor. After all, he cannot admit blackmailed.WHAT NO SHUT UP. STOP NOW BEFORE YOU HURT YOURSELF. SORRY TO BE SO AGGRESSIVE BUT THIS AINT LOGICAL.
Consigliere investigates.ASSUMING CONSIG? LIKELY.

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this is so messed up that its not even funny. This is barely logical at all.

Im going to go with what this guy suggested and edit in the most logical assumptions, which are not even logical to assume anyways.


Night 0

Godfather kills.
Kidnapper busses one of the bussed claimers with one of the bussed claimers.
Blackmailer blackmails someone to do something because the people who acted funny said it was their own doing, if i had to guess BM'd McKelty to be a useless citizen troll.
Blackmailer blackmails someone to do something, if i had to guess based on d1 alone BM'd Ackermann to be a useless lurker. he suddenly got more active today so it would make sense.
Drug Dealer visits Cohen and lies to him about him being poisoned.
Consigliere gathers information.

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Night 1

GF kills.
Kidnapper busses a bussed claimer with a bussed claimer
Blackmailer blackmails Morgan/Colmyer.
DD does something that we haven't figured out yet. I'd guess not claim feedback/prevent feedback based on the lack of sex.
Blackmailer blackmails Colmyer/Morgan.
Consigliere investigates.

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Again this aint even likely but I went with what was suggested I do.

[FM Green]

Wow, that was an extremely long read.

After going through everything and reading every clue I could find, I have come to a conclusion.

It was

-vote FM Monroe

in the alley...
with the soma...

[FM Green]

Also gathered from my clues I have found:

I also believe FM Cohen to be innocent. I also believe FM Cafarelli to be a bit scummy.

[FM Chapman]

Chapman still never answered my question.
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Monroe's mayor reveal seems like a stupid joke to me....which only made him seem more scummy.
Unless of course he actually was Mayor....BEFORE HE WAS SAVAGED! I dunno...just hypoing...
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As for Licht, he seems to avoid answer why he was using inviso text in day 1.... Find it odd, but it may have been for a legit reason.

Is it?

Would I?

The lack of info was precisely why I thought he should die.

Well, he's still alive, isn't he?

[FM Chapman]

Ballard: What do you want me to say? This guy is town. Any more and I might as well give up hsi role

Ackermann: A sudden increase in posts with actual substance continues to support my theory that this player is likely a jester. This guy has posted in the likelihood of getting lynched while trying to seem calm about it and giving out some iffy insight. It is pretty sad that this guy is getting little to no pressure when he is 600 percent times worse than Monroe at this moment. At least Monroe is trying here.

Litchmann: I dislike his excuses to not answer questions. I dislike his missup on what I asked as i am fairly sure that I asked him about Ackerman and not Belkwosy[whqatever] Other than that he is alrighty enough to take small notice on.

Rose:

I'm having trouble slotting Ballard as town. Can you go into this reasoning a bit more?

[FM Lichtmann]

this is so messed up that its not even funny. This is barely logical at all.

Im going to go with what this guy suggested and edit in the most logical assumptions, which are not even logical to assume anyways.


Night 0

Godfather kills.
Kidnapper busses one of the bussed claimers with one of the bussed claimers.
Blackmailer blackmails someone to do something because the people who acted funny said it was their own doing, if i had to guess BM'd McKelty to be a useless citizen troll.
Blackmailer blackmails someone to do something, if i had to guess based on d1 alone BM'd Ackermann to be a useless lurker. he suddenly got more active today so it would make sense.
Drug Dealer visits Cohen and lies to him about him being poisoned.
Consigliere gathers information.

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Night 1

GF kills.
Kidnapper busses a bussed claimer with a bussed claimer
Blackmailer blackmails Morgan/Colmyer.
DD does something that we haven't figured out yet. I'd guess not claim feedback/prevent feedback based on the lack of sex.
Blackmailer blackmails Colmyer/Morgan.
Consigliere investigates.

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Again this aint even likely but I went with what was suggested I do.

Then could you please give your own idea of what happened overnight? Using what you think and not that if you think it is entirely different from that then give us what you think.

[FM Galloway]

Rose. Crap forgot about rose.

I'm having trouble slotting Ballard as town. Can you go into this reasoning a bit more?

Ballard has done what he can to lead the town in the early game yesterday and he has been very active and forthcoming with having to leave and whats going on. Ballard also has tried reasoning out lynches and pressure trains and hasn't subverted to popular opinion despite the ease of it. Today he has showed consistancy and that is a fairly town thing to do so far in the game. simplified into a few sentences

[FM Galloway]

Then could you please give your own idea of what happened overnight? Using what you think and not that if you think it is entirely different from that then give us what you think.

Yeah no problem. Give me a sec to post some info on Rose and i'll hop on it.

[FM Parker]

@Galloway, wow. First you turn the train away from Cafarelli. Then your defense of my posts just pretty much calls me scum and illogical. I'll walk you through this step by step how I generated my results.

First, there are one too few roleblocked claims for today. The most likely difference for that one of the targets on day one was blackmailed. However, if they would have claimed day 1, they would have been free to reveal day 2. Yet, there was no such "reveal" by one of the escort claimers. Yet, Colmyer (who did claim roleblocked day 1), has been reduced to nothing but spam on day 2. This is done to create the false impression for a little while there is a consort in the game when such a role likely does not exist.

In order for that to work, Colmyer would have to be silenced on both days.

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Also, there are three bussed claims on both days. Why not 4? Answer: The fourth target was either mafia or blackmailed. Given that we have two blackmails on day 1 unaccounted for, the conclusion that the fourth bussed was blackmailed also makes sense. Why wouldn't the person who was the fourth bussed not claim blackmailed day 2? They are reduced and limited to spam posts. Hence the conclusion that Morgan has been blackmailed day 1 and blackmailed or DDed day 2.


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I am assuming Consigliere for balance.

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Given that drug dealer day 2 has already been assigned, Cafarelli could not have been drugged day 2. Drugged day 1 is still available and therefore likely belongs to the guy who claimed poison, wasn't dead and wasn't healed.

[FM Parker]

Oh I forgot, Monroe is blackmailed to claim mayor because the mafia assumed we're idiots and might actually want to lynch him without stopping to think about things.

[FM Galloway]

@Galloway, wow. First you turn the train away from Cafarelli. Then your defense of my posts just pretty much calls me scum and illogical. I'll walk you through this step by step how I generated my results.

First, there are one too few roleblocked claims for today. The most likely difference for that one of the targets on day one was blackmailed. However, if they would have claimed day 1, they would have been free to reveal day 2. Yet, there was no such "reveal" by one of the escort claimers. Yet, Colmyer (who did claim roleblocked day 1), has been reduced to nothing but spam on day 2. This is done to create the false impression for a little while there is a consort in the game when such a role likely does not exist.

In order for that to work, Colmyer would have to be silenced on both days.

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Also, there are three bussed claims on both days. Why not 4? Answer: The fourth target was either mafia or blackmailed. Given that we have two blackmails on day 1 unaccounted for, the conclusion that the fourth bussed was blackmailed also makes sense. Why wouldn't the person who was the fourth bussed not claim blackmailed day 2? They are reduced and limited to spam posts. Hence the conclusion that Morgan has been blackmailed day 1 and blackmailed or DDed day 2.


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I am assuming Consigliere for balance.

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Given that drug dealer day 2 has already been assigned, Cafarelli could not have been drugged day 2. Drugged day 1 is still available and therefore likely belongs to the guy who claimed poison, wasn't dead and wasn't healed.

Stopping on Rose for a sec to belittle this really baaaad defense.

1st off buster you said Morgan was BM'd to be silenced. He was one of the most active on day one. That aint logical to assume at all.
Additinally you also suggest that the mafia are gonna be like yo dawg fake being roleblocked today if you dont mind good sir but we are gonna go ahead and silence this guy for the day. No just No. No. Thats the dumbest set of mafia team I have ever seen. Again. No. Solid No right there.


You just said colymer would have to be slienced two days, where was the silence on day one huh? Nowhere, illogical mister and dont try and argue its worthless.


about the 3 bussed buizz. There are a ton of lurkers. Did you stop to consider that? Nope bet you didnt. instead you went straight to the misdirectoin dial on your numpad there. additoinally if you dont wanna accept that there is the fact that blackmailer could have been like yo gawd dont claim yo feedback ya har? on one target or the DD could have sent someone fake rolebloked and stoof. Cohen could always be lying and you didnt even stop to consider that did you? NOPE! NOT AT ALL! logical means very probable. Not ridiculously improbable. Learn2logicalness or admit scum and suciide,


[side note is i have not forgotten about savage team i am just focused on scumhunting day chat and fillin dat rolelist.]


Back to rose

[FM Ackerman]

@Galloway, wow. First you turn the train away from Cafarelli. Then your defense of my posts just pretty much calls me scum and illogical. I'll walk you through this step by step how I generated my results.

First, there are one too few roleblocked claims for today. The most likely difference for that one of the targets on day one was blackmailed. However, if they would have claimed day 1, they would have been free to reveal day 2. Yet, there was no such "reveal" by one of the escort claimers. Yet, Colmyer (who did claim roleblocked day 1), has been reduced to nothing but spam on day 2. This is done to create the false impression for a little while there is a consort in the game when such a role likely does not exist.

In order for that to work, Colmyer would have to be silenced on both days.

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Also, there are three bussed claims on both days. Why not 4? Answer: The fourth target was either mafia or blackmailed. Given that we have two blackmails on day 1 unaccounted for, the conclusion that the fourth bussed was blackmailed also makes sense. Why wouldn't the person who was the fourth bussed not claim blackmailed day 2? They are reduced and limited to spam posts. Hence the conclusion that Morgan has been blackmailed day 1 and blackmailed or DDed day 2.


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I am assuming Consigliere for balance.

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Given that drug dealer day 2 has already been assigned, Cafarelli could not have been drugged day 2. Drugged day 1 is still available and therefore likely belongs to the guy who claimed poison, wasn't dead and wasn't healed.

The one thing I don't get on your logic, is why Cafarelli would claim invest to out a town. The moment a mislynch occurs Cafarelli would be under scrutiny by everyone. The fact you are pushing so hard against a potential power role is questionable at best.

[FM Galloway]

Just doin day two posts atm.

Ballard is a scum. He uses cheap quacks to make himself seem less suspicious, He doesn't really seem like the kind of player that roleplays since he often forgets to say ''quack''.
The only purpose of him saying quack is so that people will get a different view of him which doesn't seem like something a townie would need to do.

-vote Ballard

What is this amatur hour? Get that fake derail fos outta here and try harder.
I hope no one else ever stops to think this is a smart player.

He is not the mayor then?

No way? Makes sense cause GM did the circket video.

I sure hope we have a jailor.

Where the hell did this come from?

Now that i think about it. why would the blackmailer force someone to do something useless like spamming or writing in invis text when he could force them to fake claim and try to misslynch someone?

Lol look at this. Finnally a useful post which isnt very useful at all. Reiterationiirc or just plain lets look protown without being protown.





All in all Rose needs to be pressured some time or investigated because this is bottom line posting with no substance at all. Seriously how did this palyer get overlooked this long.

I'll shall pressure some more because either this player is scum or she needs to get crackin with the usefullness.

-vote FM Rose

[FM Parker]

Clarification: Morgan was bmed to be silenced about being bussed. Should be obvious from my posts.

Clarification 2: Again, Colymer was blackmailed to add an additonal roleblock and then blackmailed DDed to keep silent about the blackmail night 1.

Notice: The above should be clear from my posts.

I believe it was Mendez who said once the roles are confirmed then the game gets easier. The mafia plan I have outlined does throw a lot of chaos into the roles.

In regards to your admit scum and suicide line. I'd rather not. I could pretend it's opposite day though.

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@Ackerman Yes, the claim Cafarelli made as a town power role would suggest to protect her from lynching. S/he claims investigator. She was drugged to hide the feedback. Was she drugged twice? The mafia happens to guess the investigator with the drugged no feedback. Then, they happen to do it again. If she was outing as investigator, the best thing to do would also be to give her leads. Given there's about 30 roles give or take, I doubt the mafia picked the investigator twice blindly to drug.

[FM Black]

Yay the tiny lil witch is finally being fingered

[FM Galloway]

K. working on that proposed mafia actions now.

Just one thing:
Parker that is such a strech. Take 5 and come back and try again. Think logically and not dreamily.

[FM Ballard]

I'm back. Chapman, I would like to hear more about your concerns with me. Actually, this is not limited to Chapman. I have some time to answer any questions right now.

I did suspect Rose day 1 and agree with the pressure, but FM Law says I have to wait at least 3 posts before voting the same person as a guy defending me or else that would be buddying and sheeping.

Yay the tiny lil witch is finally being fingered

This wording...I am not disappoint.

[FM Parker]

K. working on that proposed mafia actions now.

Just one thing:
Parker that is such a strech. Take 5 and come back and try again. Think logically and not dreamily.

I've walked you through step by step how I got to my conclusions. Your response is merely that I'm posting dreamily. Several of your posts have appeared to systematically make me upset by calling me illogical and stupid. I am hardly thinking irrationally. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've got it pegged right given the amount of effort you are dispensing to defend a lynch train that is not on you. First you tried diversion, then you tried misinterpretation, then you tried calling me an idiot.

[FM Ackerman]

I've walked you through step by step how I got to my conclusions. Your response is merely that I'm posting dreamily. Several of your posts have appeared to systematically make me upset by calling me illogical and stupid. I am hardly thinking irrationally. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've got it pegged right given the amount of effort you are dispensing to defend a lynch train that is not on you. First you tried diversion, then you tried misinterpretation, then you tried calling me an idiot.

As much as i think ballard is scum I have to agree him on that point.

[FM Parker]

@Ackerman, We disagree on the Cohen/Cafarelli issue. I wouldn't be accusing an outed power role if I wasn't near certain they were scum. Towns, generally, do not accuse someone of being scummy the way Galloway did.

[FM Galloway]

So just going off what Ive read.


Godfather
Kidnapper
Drug Dealer
Blackmailor
Consig
Consort


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Gf killed Gage
Kidnapper bussed a/b/c with a/b/c
Drug Dealer drugged Cohen/drugged bussed with c/a/b\drugged roleblocked\prevent feedback
Blackmailor blackmailed [player] with [blackmailed message]/blackmailed McKelty/Ackerman with be useless/lurking/trolly
Consig investigated
Consort roleblocked z/x

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Gf killed Bishop
Kidnapper bussed a/b/c with a/b/c
Drug Dealer drugged bussed with c/a/b\prevent feedback/fake BM spam lines
Blackmailor BM'd to spam lines.
consig investigated
Consort blocked Buch

My reasoning for this is because it is highly unlikely that mafia wont have a kidnapper with whom has been claiming bussed. It makes so little sense for these players to be bussed by a bus driver and the odd number either means there is a bus driver who is making bad choices or DD drugged it. Also with buch gettin RB'd like this it pretty much confirms Consort because there is so much better options for DD to use on him. Consort makes to most sense. Besides this guy was fairly pro town yesterday. Why RB him if your escort? Also preventing feedback seems too much to pass up not to include in possiblity.
Consig because info gathering.
Blackmailor due to what been goin on.

[FM Ballard]

As much as i think ballard is scum I have to agree him on that point.

I'll humor you, explain your reasoning to me. Also I've never called Parker an idiot.

[FM Colmyer]

He died of an overdose.

[FM Colmyer]

He was an addict.

[FM Galloway]

I've walked you through step by step how I got to my conclusions. Your response is merely that I'm posting dreamily. Several of your posts have appeared to systematically make me upset by calling me illogical and stupid. I am hardly thinking irrationally. In fact, I'm pretty sure I've got it pegged right given the amount of effort you are dispensing to defend a lynch train that is not on you. First you tried diversion, then you tried misinterpretation, then you tried calling me an idiot.

K buddy. lets try this again.

• Morgan talked a lot day one.
• Cohen claimed poisned
• Colymer talked a lot day one
• We had three bus driver feedbacks
• We have two/three roleblocked feedbacks i cant remember which
• We had a ton of lurkers/oneliners/trollers
• We have three bus driven feedbacks
• We have one/two roleblocked claims. Cant remember which
• We have two protown players spamming lines.

These things makes almost everything you suggested next to impossible. However there is a possiblity mafia were retarded. So I made it improbable instead. You can;t take reality for what it is apparently so I talked to you like you were 5 because holy tantrums.
The fact that you so eagerly made everything possible to one thing, which were already illogical, makes me think of you in a bad light. I can only assume it was on purpose because FM mister. Additonaly to that, even if it weren't enough, you have not even stopped to ask me my thoughts or why im so against what you said in any manner calm. Instead you blew up in my face almost instantly, btw i capped to be sure people read my reactions not to yell, and thats a scum tell too. Play to emotions mostly when its not to hide COMs.

[FM Galloway]

He died of an overdose.

Yah no. think I picked on those hints coly. However He is elluding me a bit so Im taking a swing at who is scummiest atm.

[FM Parker]

@Ballard, Galloway was the one calling me an idiot. Not you.

@Galloway, First, you are supposing the dead guy happens to be a blackmail target. Scummy, because it cannot be verified.

Your sentences underneath make no sense. There are also so many unidentified parts in your hypothesis.

If I am understanding you right, the kidnapper has been bussing himself and merely withholding the bus claim. Why? The mafia doesn't gain anything from that. Plus, in the event of a detective/lookout the Kidnapper is outed as a liar.

Buch was posting lists and what not but active =/= equal town. I can see an escort roleblocking Buch.


A) Morgan can talk a lot but be blackmailed to hide a specific fact. Kinda obvious.
B) Yes. So it's possible that feedback was drugged.
C) Colymer talked a lot say one yet be blackmailed to claim he was roleblocked.
D) We had three bus driver feed backs on both days. What does this eliminate again?
E) We have two roleblocked feedbacks today and three yesterday. Someone isn't claiming. Consort wouldn't waste a roleblock on a lurker and the town would look for someone actively posting but saying nothing most likely. I don't buy the lurkers were targeted.
F) We had a ton of lurkers. That doesn't mean they were targeted at all.
G) We have protown players spamming lines. That's probably not of their own volition.

Comparing our scenarios... mine accounts for every claim so far. Yours has so many unknowns that I'm pretty sure the CIA would be impressed by how little your scenario lays out.

[FM Parker]

I am going to go for awhile to slow this thread down. I think I've laid out my scenarios pretty clearly. If see Cafarelli as scum like I do, then great. If not, well, the day's still got quite a bit of time.

[FM Galloway]

@Ballard, Galloway was the one calling me an idiot. Not you.

@Galloway, First, you are supposing the dead guy happens to be a blackmail target. Scummy, because it cannot be verified.

Your sentences underneath make no sense. There are also so many unidentified parts in your hypothesis.

If I am understanding you right, the kidnapper has been bussing himself and merely withholding the bus claim. Why? The mafia doesn't gain anything from that. Plus, in the event of a detective/lookout the Kidnapper is outed as a liar.

Buch was posting lists and what not but active =/= equal town. I can see an escort roleblocking Buch.


A) Morgan can talk a lot but be blackmailed to hide a specific fact. Kinda obvious.
B) Yes. So it's possible that feedback was drugged.
C) Colymer talked a lot say one yet be blackmailed to claim he was roleblocked.
D) We had three bus driver feed backs on both days. What does this eliminate again?
E) We have two roleblocked feedbacks today and three yesterday. Someone isn't claiming. Consort wouldn't waste a roleblock on a lurker and the town would look for someone actively posting but saying nothing most likely. I don't buy the lurkers were targeted.
F) We had a ton of lurkers. That doesn't mean they were targeted at all.
G) We have protown players spamming lines. That's probably not of their own volition.

Comparing our scenarios... mine accounts for every claim so far. Yours has so many unknowns that I'm pretty sure the CIA would be impressed by how little your scenario lays out.

What are you talking about? I never suggested that Kidnapper was bussing himself.
I said it was a possiblty and if I had to guess didn't I? Didnt i list other possibilities.Sure I did.

a)Sure. Its possible. Logical? Not really.
b)Isnt that what I said?
c)How is that a possiblity? Why are you soo keen on making him BM'd to roleblocked? DD possible and BM would have BM'd Cohen to fake Posiond or something. Seriosly why are you so hardcore on this one improbabilty as truth?
d)lurkers bro. Learn2lurkeridentify.
e) DD possiblt or that BM bming Coly/morgan has overridden their ability to claim feedback also lurkers without posting. What about lurkers?
f)Its possible. Yet you continously ignore them.
g)No shit.

No. It doesn't. That is an utter lie and everyone knows it. Why you are so hardcore on me being absolutely wwrong and you being so correct I have no clue but holy trantrum dude calm the [sexual organs]

[FM Cohen]

Speaking of that last bit.

Cohen, if you're working on the assumption that Colmyer is an above average FM player and that he is acting as he is because he was blackmailed night 2, wouldn't you think that he would have waited to complete his task until tomorrow? Or at least waited for a while to see if the new revelations of the day were unimportant enough not to take part in it before spamming gibberish?

Look, I don't know who read the role cards closely and who didn't. But consider this: if Colmyer/Morgan was blackmailed n1, why did neither of them pressure Lichtmann who was our main suspect of being blackmailed, they would know for sure that he wasn't. I personally think that either one of them or both is faking BMed today with spam to appear less likely to be mafia.

I also think it would be a useless way to apply blackmailing, because it doesn't really have any effect besides irritating some players who can't stand invisible text.

Do you think that making 2 people spam is that much more useful? It's irritating too, granted, it restricts what they can say for 1 day.

So I might as well lay down some cards and add some more questions for Monroe, here is what I think of yesterday's roleblocks:

3 people claim roleblocked, 1 being Colmyer who asks to see PMs because of non standard. Up until that point, Galletta did not specify the wording in her PM. 6 minutes later, Monroe realizes that if Galletta screws up her claim, that gambit was screwd and posts a fairly open warning to mafia:

You mean the exact night feedback isn't in the Feedback Messages part of the setup thread? Well that's strange. I regret to inform you that the fake claim plan may not work, mafia. The host is trolling you.

It was only after that Galletta replied with some part of the wording of the pm, she could have easily copied Colmyer roleblock claim post for post style.

Hosts quickly banned the posting of feedback msgs shortly after this. Hinting to me that someone has something to hide.

Now I don't know what to make of the news articles, not much information I can use from them until I know who was targeted by who. So I'm ignoring it for now.

You guys need to remember that other people have parts of the puzzle you don't:

Blackmailed people know if someone is faking blackmailed = I would have expected someone to interrogate Lichtmann yesterday. So either they were blackmailed n2, or both completely ignored Lichtmann.

[FM Galloway]

Im heading to bed. Feedback people.

[FM Ackerman]

Look, I don't know who read the role cards closely and who didn't. But consider this: if Colmyer/Morgan was blackmailed n1, why did neither of them pressure Lichtmann who was our main suspect of being blackmailed, they would know for sure that he wasn't. I personally think that either one of them or both is faking BMed today with spam to appear less likely to be mafia.




Do you think that making 2 people spam is that much more useful? It's irritating too, granted, it restricts what they can say for 1 day.

So I might as well lay down some cards and add some more questions for Monroe, here is what I think of yesterday's roleblocks:

3 people claim roleblocked, 1 being Colmyer who asks to see PMs because of non standard. Up until that point, Galletta did not specify the wording in her PM. 6 minutes later, Monroe realizes that if Galletta screws up her claim, that gambit was screwd and posts a fairly open warning to mafia:


It was only after that Galletta replied with some part of the wording of the pm, she could have easily copied Colmyer roleblock claim post for post style.

Hosts quickly banned the posting of feedback msgs shortly after this. Hinting to me that someone has something to hide.

Now I don't know what to make of the news articles, not much information I can use from them until I know who was targeted by who. So I'm ignoring it for now.

You guys need to remember that other people have parts of the puzzle you don't:

Blackmailed people know if someone is faking blackmailed = I would have expected someone to interrogate Lichtmann yesterday. So either they were blackmailed n2, or both completely ignored Lichtmann.

I could buy this, I need a little bit more to be convinced however. Explain to me what you think really happened and how you fit in.

[FM Ballard]

Not to confuse you guys further with the blackmail fiasco but what do you guys think of Galletta posting only "I was not interacted with last night"? I was reminded when I saw Cohen's post concerning Galletta that we were missing a familiar face. It's strange considering he/she posted quite a lot yesterday. Possible Galletta is at work in real life though.

[FM Ballard]

It has been more than 3 posts. The Golden Rule has been met. I can safely vote my FoS without seeming like a sheep or buddy. Bazinga

-vote FM Rose

[FM Cohen]

Ballard, while you are here, can you explain what you meant by:

Quack you motherfucker.
I'm reading bad gambit as "scum" and good guy as "not scum", so basically you're saying

"Fm ballard is scum or not scum herher"
This is fake contribution and scummy.
Your lack of avatar (along with the other noavis!) also makes me suspect you weren't on your day account but rather a night account. what say you.

scums everywhere. gonna mccarthy this shit.
quack. quack. quaack.

Considering that McKelty was lynched, and the similarities in the naming sounds. Is there a connection? You were pretty vote jumpy yesterday.

[FM Colmyer]

I can't protect you.

[FM Ballard]

Ballard, while you are here, can you explain what you meant by:



Considering that McKelty was lynched, and the similarities in the naming sounds. Is there a connection? You were pretty vote jumpy yesterday.

Senator Joseph McCarthy

[FM Ackerman]

-vote FM Monroe

Im really interested now, defend yourself against the accusations please.