Day 2

[FM Monroe]

If a delta is recruited by the savages without using the "recruit as" option, do they get the Savage rolecard or do they keep their delta role and become a savage version of it, so they can't even be sent to kill?

[FM Donnelly]

@Donnelly, you seem to be quite logical regarding your actions and the cult. Why are you voting Monroe? What is your take on him being blackmailed but not being able to say so?

I find it strange that he accused McKelty of being a specific scum role on day 1, especially given that the post he cited as evidence didn't read to me like it could only have come from a savage godfather. His troll mayor reveal didn't earn him any points from me either. I'd like to see what he has to say for himself.

There's probably about 3-4 gamma's in the entire game and one is dead already. Add the epsilons and you're at 4-5 out of 30 or so players. While there's probably still more than 10 deltas alive. It's hardly a risk for them to become "full of powerless savages," it's way more likely they'll convert deltas into power roles. If they would randomly recruit people without using the "recruit as" option, that's when they would end up being full of savages.

It might be a small risk, but it is still a risk. But we've gotten a bit off topic. The point is that by recruiting Cafarelli (if they haven't already done so) it would eliminate the guesswork of trying to find a delta. Plus, let's not forget that they actually have an extra incentive to recruit existing gammas. Not only would the savages GAIN an investigative role, but the town would LOSE one.

[FM Cafarelli]

Your opposition to this plan increases both my suspicion of you and my certainty that the masons should do it.

i never said i was against that plan. you can do it, np. it's just a waste of soma (the clubber on me, not the enforcer ofc, as i said i definitely need the enforcer) but i dont care, if it helps you to confirm me...
how about this, we lynch cohen now and then we do your plan, then we would at least not waste today's lynch

@Cafarelli, this is a dumb way both you and Cohen can be innocent. Did you get your PM off one hour before the "day" started? If not, your action would have been forfeit and you would have had missing feedback.

i submitted night action more than 12h before d1 started. at first i thought the host was somewhat kidding me and told him to give me feedback, since i didnt receive a response i checked the setup again to find out what could be going on and the dd is the only possibility unless the host totally screwed up^^

FM Cafarelli isn't a high priority target for the cult. They probably already got a delta recruited as an investigator last night or first night. Whatever

They just recruit their men as investigators until they got one.

The cult will surely not gun for active members who aren't really trusted in day. Also it's still questionable if Cafarelli isn't just a benign neutral /disguiser who thought "SHE" has enough momentum to get something done today.

I still miss a good lynch target for today. Especially thanks to that more than stupid day 1 Delta lynch...

there is no slot for disguiser
and i still don't care about your deliberate 'she' at least it shows me that you're read my post ;)

They're not just going to "recruit as investigator" until they get one. That would be stupid because they might hit power roles and then they'd be stuck with a cult full of savages, which would be completely wasting their potential for gaining information.

Your opposition to the plan is noted. If Cafarelli flips savage, you're next on my list of suspects.

complete bullshit. chances to hit a citizen is way greater. so why will always go 'recruit as ...'. and if they happen to randomly find a gamma role, np because they get enough PRs

[FM Galloway]

maybe because the witch saw that something happened to the guy you're witched too

well pretty obvious colmyer is blackmailed today. as lichtmann was yesterday, now he writes normal.
cohen is a huge liar, my trust in him was wrong, though my plan wasnt bad because now we know he's a liar and can lynch. blackmailed was lichtmann and drug dealed was one of the blocks/bds

also i think FM rose is pretty suspicious. he wrote 5 posts but non of these posts did actually contribute anything. but then again he might be jester or just a citizen like mckelty...

and the second interview was defitinitely made by a consig. a real invest would give us as much information as possible. he only wrote his outcome, not who was checked. what a hypocrite, mafia probably doesnt want to share their information with town. a REAL invest would see the interview as perfect chance to feed town with all he got without having to reveal. i also noted the sudden defense from cohen who is probably scum along with the consig. i'd like to know who wrote this interview
additionally invest seems unlikely now

where is the list of who voted last day? it's not in the vote counter anymore... fix pls, we need that list

-vote FM Cohen

guys we need to lynch cohen. lynch that liar!!

and also, i think if the interview was from an invest, he would rather say: night 1 i checked this guy and according to the result and my reads he's probably town

that would at least be somewhat useful

yes.



i don't easy FoS ppl. i have solid evidence. i'm thinking about revealing it all but is has a huge drawback
he thought it's safe to lie because he know he has a drug dealer and could easily claim drugged. his plan was to look like a townie because mafia members usually arent drugged^^

yes i know
here is the evidence, i knew you'd request it
it's that I was drugged n1. no doubt, because i didn't receive my feedback. i was drugged to no feedback. i had my reason to conceal it (i didnt want to give away my role) and though i did my best to point out that there's a dd and the poisoning was not drugged. so its impossible cohen was drugged. and he was also not blackmailed, he would have told
he felt safe to lie about being poisoned and then claim drugged, because i said nothing happened to me and tried to look like a citizen. he thought noond would ever know i was drugged

i am the investigator. that's why it's fucking unlikely that the interviewed guy is an invest aswell
here is the lw i submitted after last night


now die scum^^ (dont lynch too early though)
and next day we get the consig ;)

Yeah so you did check Rose.
I look back and saw that, guess what I found?

[FM Galloway]

The reason I seem different is simple. Mix ups mess up scum,

[FM Galloway]

OH derp. My bad my bad. I get it now I read those post wrong

[FM Green]

I just don't see why Caf. would claim invest D2. At least get some more evidence to back up your claims instead of claiming to be invest with one piece of evidence.

If I were invest, then I'd at least get 2 or 3 nights of evidence before revealing.

Monroe and Caf. are on my scum list, not that my list matters that much.

[FM Cafarelli]

i dont get what you're trying to imply. i wrote this about rose for a reason. to hint at my result and to help a coroner.

[FM Cafarelli]

I just don't see why Caf. would claim invest D2. At least get some more evidence to back up your claims instead of claiming to be invest with one piece of evidence.

If I were invest, then I'd at least get 2 or 3 nights of evidence before revealing.

Monroe and Caf. are on my scum list, not that my list matters that much.

contribute more first lol
imo my claim is very plausible. i had 3 important information. one was the counterclaim to the interviewed consig. the second was that i was drugged and cohen lies. the third was about rose. the second would confirm me easily even if ppl don't decide to trust me for now which i find pretty nooby actually

[FM Cafarelli]

doesn't look like we'll get a lynch tonight. if there is a jailor, execute cohen

[FM Leary]

Wow i hate doing this,but i might have to consider asking for myself to get replaced. Although that depends on the GMs, given my rather active participation in the FM history. I had a shitload of things to do these past few days but i'll be finally free starting tomorrow.
Well it's up to the GMs to decide, i won't be able to contribute to today's Day chat again.

[FM Monroe]

Wow i hate doing this,but i might have to consider asking for myself to get replaced. Although that depends on the GMs, given my rather active participation in the FM history. I had a shitload of things to do these past few days but i'll be finally free starting tomorrow.
Well it's up to the GMs to decide, i won't be able to contribute to today's Day chat again.

Did you write a summary of day 1? If yes, please share it.

[FM Cafarelli]

anyway i gotta sleep now till day is over

[FM Kelso]

contribute more first lol
imo my claim is very plausible. i had 3 important information. one was the counterclaim to the interviewed consig. the second was that i was drugged and cohen lies. the third was about rose. the second would confirm me easily even if ppl don't decide to trust me for now which i find pretty nooby actually

I didn't see any proof of that. You actually can't prove that Cohen lie exept if we lynch him and he turn scum. Problem is, he helped the town as much as you did. And if he's actually a town, next one on the list is you, even if you are a town.

Lets keep our focus on actual lurker/scummy people instead of risking lynching an ally (You or Cohen)

[FM Ferengi]

If a delta is recruited by the savages without using the "recruit as" option, do they get the Savage rolecard or do they keep their delta role and become a savage version of it, so they can't even be sent to kill?

They get the savage rolecard.

[FM Parker]

@Galloway, the post that rose is pretty suspicious followed by a sudden twist not to worry because Rose is a delta is quite troublesome indeed.

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I think it was pretty clear someone not town aligned wrote that second note from the moment we saw it because it lacked the evil role suggestion. A reasonable town would have included what mafia roles are in the game or at least that the person had no clue.

As for your drugged claim, why not announce it day 1? Confirming a drug dealer is beneficial to town. Why hide it?

I find it more likely that Carafelli is the savage investigator. An investigator yes. I believe we were just discussing the "recruit as" option. It's very possible that was done to Carafelli. That would explain the total change in her actions. Plus, it would explain why she has no investigative answer for Black without being blackmailed or drugged. This is moving a little closer to speculation though. She could still be a consig.

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I need to write my last will people. I'll be back later.

[FM Green]

contribute more first lol
imo my claim is very plausible. i had 3 important information. one was the counterclaim to the interviewed consig. the second was that i was drugged and cohen lies. the third was about rose. the second would confirm me easily even if ppl don't decide to trust me for now which i find pretty nooby actually

I'm aware I've got to contribute more and that's what I'm trying to do. It's just not my way of playing, granted other people have different ways of play. And there is no way to prove what you're saying. It's one mans word against another. And from what I've seen, people are not on your side. Neither am I.

[FM Cafarelli]

very last post for today

I didn't see any proof of that. You actually can't prove that Cohen lie exept if we lynch him and he turn scum. Problem is, he helped the town as much as you did. And if he's actually a town, next one on the list is you, even if you are a town.

Lets keep our focus on actual lurker/scummy people instead of risking lynching an ally (You or Cohen)

ofc i cant prove that i'm invest if you dont lynch that scum (who has suddenly disappeared). no invest can proof a roleclaim like this
and no, cohen actually didnt help at all.
cohen is definitely not an ally of the town

@Galloway, the post that rose is pretty suspicious followed by a sudden twist not to worry because Rose is a delta is quite troublesome indeed.

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I think it was pretty clear someone not town aligned wrote that second note from the moment we saw it because it lacked the evil role suggestion. A reasonable town would have included what mafia roles are in the game or at least that the person had no clue.

As for your drugged claim, why not announce it day 1? Confirming a drug dealer is beneficial to town. Why hide it?

I find it more likely that Carafelli is the savage investigator. An investigator yes. I believe we were just discussing the "recruit as" option. It's very possible that was done to Carafelli. That would explain the total change in her actions. Plus, it would explain why she has no investigative answer for Black without being blackmailed or drugged. This is moving a little closer to speculation though. She could still be a consig.

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I need to write my last will people. I'll be back later.

everything you wrote was already explained: the thing about rose and why it's the worst possible thing i could do to announce d1

I'm aware I've got to contribute more and that's what I'm trying to do. It's just not my way of playing, granted other people have different ways of play. And there is no way to prove what you're saying. It's one mans word against another. And from what I've seen, people are not on your side. Neither am I.

because it seems like the majority is just dumb. and you sheep them, most likely you didnt even read the whole day chat
this reminds me very much on the last fm, where 2 of the purple mafia buddied to get that mislynch on that guy soul king brook that would have made them win and all the town sheeped and almost lynched him


it seems like all your FoS on me is based that a dd would NEVER (as you say) use that drug (which is actually complete bullshit)
you didn't even try analyze my posts or something, or cohen's. you don't even care about my answers, explanations and my numerous attempts to get that scum lynched (parker seems to ignore them completely, bringing up the same shit again and again)
so i can aswell just quit posting, matches with that i gotta sleep.

[FM Carruthers]

Carruther's in your service.

This would be my first official meeting with the public.

If I may please ask, could someone silence Sir Colmyer's from his... random speech?

[FM Parker]

Carruther's in your service.

This would be my first official meeting with the public.

If I may please ask, could someone silence Sir Colmyer's from his... random speech?

Unfortunately, we are not allowed to ignore his posts. He's quoting from Sarah Kane's "Cleansed" it is a modern English play. Most, if not all, of the group believes it is very likely Colmyer was blackmailed.

[FM Galloway]

Everyone here who only posted about hosts and their inclusion of certain roles is scummy. There is a wide range of conversation topics and posts to talk about and these players [bleep] to the host with no thought to what else is goin on? Scummy.

[FM Carruthers]

Unfortunately, we are not allowed to ignore his posts. He's quoting from Sarah Kane's "Cleansed" it is a modern English play. Most, if not all, of the group believes it is very likely Colmyer was blackmailed.

That'd be unfortunate.

We'll see the truth in a few days, I currently suspect that it's a Jester-play rather than blackmail.

[FM Colmyer]

Thought you loved me.

[FM Cohen]

ofc i cant prove that i'm invest if you dont lynch that scum (who has suddenly disappeared). no invest can proof a roleclaim like this
and no, cohen actually didnt help at all.
cohen is definitely not an ally of the town

Just got back online and caught up reading, Cafarelli I hope you are still online for one last post.

If you think I'm not helping town at all, do you suspect Monroe to be town? he is leading his fight against you.
What alignment/role do you think I am?
If we can agree that Monroe is scum, can't we lynch him today? I'm not a flight risk, I'll still be here tomorrow. I'm not a disguiser.

To anyone on the Cafarelli train = leave her alone, if she (yes, I'm intentionally calling you a she even though I know you are a he) is a savage, let the masons take care of it. I don't see any better targets for masons to check.

[FM Colmyer]

Yes.

[FM Parker]

-vote unvote

I'm not getting a train on Carafelli today. I might as well unvote her. I'm not convinced Monroe is scum, so I'm not voting him though.

[FM Leary]

I have not gotten around to being able to read up on any days fully. Given the limited amount of information i have from reading about 10 out of the 70 pages total for D1 and D2 there hasn't been much action other than pointing fingers on Day 1. I will have to excuse myself for the rest of the day, seeing how i'm giving a presentation in about 10 hours and i had 0 sleep just yet.

[FM Cohen]

I'll be back in 4 hours. (2 hours before day ends)

[FM Fontaine]

Alright I'm finally caught up reading everything. It seems like we're not going to lynch anyone, fine with me. I'm still not convinced that Monroe is town though.

I agree that Caf should be handled by the masons. His reaction to the plan confirms him as savage.

I wonder what Colmyer was trying to say about drug dealer earlier. Seems like he knew somebody was drugged.

[FM Fontaine]

Hm, seems like everyone is out atm. Guess I'll come back later.

[FM Galletta]

Hey everybody, sorry for my absence. After reading through, I don't think we should lynch anybody without solid evidence. The game is still early, and last time we ended up lynching a Delta.

Just my two cents :-)

[FM Kalou]

I think all in all, it's been an eventful day. At this point a long day can only help us to gather all the necessary information possible. No lynch is just fine and dandy.

[FM Becket]

What the fuck, I swear someone changed when the days started. I'm really sorry, I guess I'm just not on top of when things are going on this game.

I think the train on Monroe is COMPLETELY unsubstantiated, and I find anyone on it extremely suspicious. There is no reason fake claiming mayor makes sense as scum, it just brings unnecessary attention. It just as much makes no sense for town to do. It is possible as a blackmailer task, but considering the actions of Morgan and Colymer today plus its general uselessness as a blackmail task and Monroe's claims that he wasn't blackmailed, that possibility is out of the window. Since it makes sense from no perspective (except for that of a jester, but if people thought he was that they would be avoiding voting him, which is not what is happening), I see no other logical option than to dismiss it as what he claims it is, as a joke. People doing illogical things only signifies them being scum if their promotion of their fallacies would aid their own position, which a mayor claim does not.

More to come, just posting this now because I don't know at all when day will end anymore and am worried it ends now.

[FM Ackerman]

Damn I can't find the posts to quote, anyways, I have 3 points to make

1. About the soma idea i said if they didn't intend to use it. (Mayor) He can't use it so he will pass it anyways, I just suggested the passing in a more controlled manner that would allow it to gain info for the town.
2. Someone mentioned that McKelty shouldn't have revealed her feedback, and yet I'm accused of being scum for doing the same? Some feedback is more helpful to scum than town.
3. As for converting savages vs. converting as, of course they would always convert as until they had a real lead. There are much more deltas so the odds of a good role is much higher.

[FM Becket]

Alright, I figured out what's wrong. The time zone for this account is different from my time zone so I got confused. So the day ends in 3 hours.

So, to continue. The "blackmails" today are interesting because the two people who appear to be blackmailed (Morgan and Colymer) have an incredible difference in the volume of spam posts they posted. Colymer has been much more dedicated to spamming than Morgan has, which indicates that (if we were to believe that one was drug dealt a blackmail) the blackmail did not specify a number of posts required to be spammed. This means that either (A) Colymer has some reason for wanting to distract the conversation with spam, (B) Morgan and Colymer received different blackmails, meaning there are two blackmailers in the game, or (C) one of them is not truly blackmailed. Out of the three possibilities, I think (C) is the most likely, because I doubt the mafia would devote two blackmails to such a pointless blackmail. Morgan is likely the one to be faking blackmailed, because as someone pointed out, Morgan started the spam only after the source material was posted. If Morgan is faking BMed, he is likely NOT in the mafia because he had to rely on Colymer's lead to start spamming, whereas if Colymer is faking BMed, he has to be in the mafia because he knew the BM quotes before anyone else posted them. If Colymer turns out to be mafia, Mason is also suspicious for not being blackmailed yet adding to the spam and confusion, which is what Colymer would be seeking to accomplish.

[FM Parker]

@Becket, you're making an assumption that is apparently faulty. I think Morgan and Colmyer are in different timezones. That is likely why they are starting posting at different times. Also, you should notice Colmyer's spam vanishes for the most part when the group is posting. The difference in volume is off though. Also, the bulk of Colmyer's spam was at the start saying "hey I'm blackmailed" in essence. He also spammed when it wouldn't impact the group. Morgan seemed to take the same approach. I think timezones are the reason between the differences of the two.

That being said, there is the distinct possibility that Morgan was also faking being blackmailed. Yet, we had a DD that's unaccounted for day 2. That fact makes it much more likely Morgan is blackmailed/drugged blackmailed.

You could be right. I just think Morgan isn't faking.

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A little less than two hours remains in the day.

[FM Cohen]

Hey everybody, sorry for my absence. After reading through, I don't think we should lynch anybody without solid evidence. The game is still early, and last time we ended up lynching a Delta.

Just my two cents :-)

I'm back.

Thats what I thought you'd say. Better not lynching than lynching your team mate. Your two cents have been noted.

[FM Becket]

Regarding the Cohen and Cafarelli business, I think they are both incredibly suspicious. Parker was right in his analysis that it would be a very dumb mafia to use the "no feedback" drug on the blind night, the night least likely for that action to have an effect and the night where investigators' results are least likely to be useful because neither the mafia nor the investigators have anything to base their targets on. I disagree that he necessarily has to be a cult investigator - the investigation on Rose was an easy one to fake (honestly, who wouldn't have guessed her to be in the citizen pairing with her amount of lurkiness), but he could be any type of scum trying to force a lynch and secure his position in the town without claiming a result.

On the other hand, Cohen has been very inconsistent, changing his whole mindset on his opinions and inaccurately speaking of the McKelty vote as a fast vote. Yesterday, he was all about sharing his ideas to the world, today he claims to be reserving his true thoughts until the appropriate time. In particular, I would point out the difference between {This Post}, in which he needlessly shares his opinion on EVERY SINGLE PLAYER, and {This Post}, in which he claims to not give out information on other people.

Another thing that seems off to me with Cohen is how much he drew attention to his poisoned status, seemingly unnecessarily, even going so far as to give himself a funeral in his last post on day one, as if to highlight the fact that he was going to die to heighten the surprise when he turned up alive in next day without being healed. He seems to be deliberately goading the train on him, even going so far as to support the credence of his main accuser, Cafarelli.

This leads me to the conclusion that Cohen could very likely be a jester. It is relatively confirmed that there is a blackmailer in the game, and I think that if given a drug dealer and a BMer in this setup, the best move would be to use the drug deal as a second blackmail, turning the drug dealer into a more powerful role since there is essentially no difference between a drugged BM and a real BM. Assuming Colymer and Morgan are not idiots, they both fulfilled their blackmail on the second day to prevent giving another action to the BMer, meaning that the drugged BM would have also happened on night one. Tonight's drugging could have been another drugging of BM or one of the many RB/BD claims.

I think that having Cohen killed at night is the best plan, while Cafarelli is the best lynch target (though we aren't getting a lynch off today apparently).

[FM Green]

-unvote

Yeah, I personally don't think that we've got enough evidence to justify a lynch today anyway.

BTW Caf - I did read the day chat. I've been behind, I didn't notice Day 1 started when it did and I had to catch up which got me way behind on Day 1 and 2.

[FM Cohen]

I'd like to propose something for tonight. I request to be roleblocked by an escort. This would rule me out as consort since an escort would be notified that I was immune if I was. And feedback tomorrow should rule me out as most other scum roles.

Hopefully consistant feedback numbers will help Cafarelli and her supporters that I'm not the obvious scum that they make me out to be.

I still don't think that Cafarelli is a savage, and I highly doubt that she is mafia. I still recommend that she be protected somehow, but I don't think we can succeed with the kidnapper being before bus driver in OoO.

[FM Becket]

@Becket, you're making an assumption that is apparently faulty. I think Morgan and Colmyer are in different timezones. That is likely why they are starting posting at different times. Also, you should notice Colmyer's spam vanishes for the most part when the group is posting. The difference in volume is off though. Also, the bulk of Colmyer's spam was at the start saying "hey I'm blackmailed" in essence. He also spammed when it wouldn't impact the group. Morgan seemed to take the same approach. I think timezones are the reason between the differences of the two.

That being said, there is the distinct possibility that Morgan was also faking being blackmailed. Yet, we had a DD that's unaccounted for day 2. That fact makes it much more likely Morgan is blackmailed/drugged blackmailed.

You could be right. I just think Morgan isn't faking.

Of course they are in different time zones, but that doesn't account for the fact that Colymer has around 250 posts now while Morgan has yet to break 100. The whole concept of this "spam BM" seems a little off to me - they aren't spamming a specific amount, at a specific time, or a specific message (aside from it being from that play).

[FM Parker]

@Becket, we were specifically told at the start of the day that we cannot take the "count the number of posts" approach to determine if someone is blackmailed.

Regarding Cohen, I do admit that the change from revealing everything to holding somethings back is weird. Usually, the change goes the other way. However, if Cohen was panicked about death and knew he had no second shot, maybe that's why he was posting so much.

@Cohen, this sounds like you're trying to explain why you're a role that's immune to roleblocking naturally. I don't recommend roleblocking Cohen. Let's let him do his thing for now.

[FM Becket]

I really don't understand the mentality some people seem to have that it was a good thing to not have a lynch today. We have WAY more evidence than we did yesterday, and it seemed people had no problem lynching yesterday. It's not like we made some huge mistake yesterday that should scare us away from lynching - we lynched a citizen, not some huge power role like mayor or mason. If anything, the need to lynch is getting more urgent because the longer we wait the more power scum has - the cult gains more members, the mafia kill more PRs - and lynching is the town's best way to eliminate scum. The only conclusion I can come to by people's statements that it's a good thing or acceptable that we lynched no one today is that people aren't reading the thread, because there were certainly lynch targets with evidence against them to be lynched today.

[FM Becket]

@Becket, we were specifically told at the start of the day that we cannot take the "count the number of posts" approach to determine if someone is blackmailed.

I think that comparatively looking at post frequency is very different from seeing if the number of spam posts are exactly a certain round number... and as far as I am aware we are allowed to compare blackmails against one another, just not try to use loopholes to work around a blackmail.

[FM Galloway]

I really don't understand the mentality some people seem to have that it was a good thing to not have a lynch today. We have WAY more evidence than we did yesterday, and it seemed people had no problem lynching yesterday. It's not like we made some huge mistake yesterday that should scare us away from lynching - we lynched a citizen, not some huge power role like mayor or mason. If anything, the need to lynch is getting more urgent because the longer we wait the more power scum has - the cult gains more members, the mafia kill more PRs - and lynching is the town's best way to eliminate scum. The only conclusion I can come to by people's statements that it's a good thing or acceptable that we lynched no one today is that people aren't reading the thread, because there were certainly lynch targets with evidence against them to be lynched today.

The problem is support.
These players don't see enough substance to follow the trains. Instead they accept no lynch and move on

[FM Parker]

I really don't understand the mentality some people seem to have that it was a good thing to not have a lynch today. We have WAY more evidence than we did yesterday, and it seemed people had no problem lynching yesterday. It's not like we made some huge mistake yesterday that should scare us away from lynching - we lynched a citizen, not some huge power role like mayor or mason. If anything, the need to lynch is getting more urgent because the longer we wait the more power scum has - the cult gains more members, the mafia kill more PRs - and lynching is the town's best way to eliminate scum. The only conclusion I can come to by people's statements that it's a good thing or acceptable that we lynched no one today is that people aren't reading the thread, because there were certainly lynch targets with evidence against them to be lynched today.

I agree. However, I think the biggest hurdle is that a lot of mafia are active players and the evidence is plentiful but not iron clad. Funny "investigators" abound... multiple journalists etc. There's a lot of trolling also creating the division. I think some of the mafia are trying to be town leaders. That might be why this is happening. One of the targets (there were plenty) is likely a mafia. Also, I'm not going to jump onto a dumb lynch (Monroe) just because it is what the majority is doing. Some of the players on his train are suspicious to me but I cannot prove they are scum.

I also notice you are more active Becket. Were you replaced?

[FM Cohen]

Not lynching today is a bad thing, but we need a minimum of ten more votes on monroe or even more if we lynch someone else.

I won't support a train on Cafarelli since masons can easily take care of her some night (maybe can't kill her tonight due to protection but a doctor would know that she was attacked and wouldn't save her again if the mafia killed someone else). And I'm willing to give her a chance to prove herself.

She hasn't mislead town much, she was quite insistent on getting me lynched which is understandable if she is telling the truth about the no feedback. I'm a little disappointed that she isn't willing to review the case I made about monroe though and isn't willing to listen to word I say. I'm hoping that she'll come around.

[FM Parker]

Not lynching today is a bad thing, but we need a minimum of ten more votes on monroe or even more if we lynch someone else.

I won't support a train on Cafarelli since masons can easily take care of her some night (maybe can't kill her tonight due to protection but a doctor would know that she was attacked and wouldn't save her again if the mafia killed someone else). And I'm willing to give her a chance to prove herself.

She hasn't mislead town much, she was quite insistent on getting me lynched which is understandable if she is telling the truth about the no feedback. I'm a little disappointed that she isn't willing to review the case I made about monroe though and isn't willing to listen to word I say. I'm hoping that she'll come around.

Someone who accuses you as scum rarely turns around based on what you say or how polite you are to them. At least that's my experience.



@ALL. 45 minutes remain.

[FM Green]

Not lynching today is a bad thing, but we need a minimum of ten more votes on monroe or even more if we lynch someone else.

I won't support a train on Cafarelli since masons can easily take care of her some night (maybe can't kill her tonight due to protection but a doctor would know that she was attacked and wouldn't save her again if the mafia killed someone else). And I'm willing to give her a chance to prove herself.

She hasn't mislead town much, she was quite insistent on getting me lynched which is understandable if she is telling the truth about the no feedback. I'm a little disappointed that she isn't willing to review the case I made about monroe though and isn't willing to listen to word I say. I'm hoping that she'll come around.

Pretty much this. I'm still on the fence about the lynch today. Granted we need to get rid of scum quick, but I personally would like to see a little more evidence. Yeah Monroe was fairly stupid doing the whole mayor thing and he did seem a bit scummy today. But I just don't know. Lets see the "invest" investigate him and see what they get.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Oh, by the way, guys..

Ahem.

If any of you post anything in the chatbox you will be modkilled.

That is all.