Winter 2020-21 ?Krc (S-FM 320)

[S-FM Spain Land]

Shits getting interesting

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

I can confirm this information as I got a copy of his rolecard before the game started. And no it is not the role I submitted.

Why did you get a copy?

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Not sure what your on about.
I’m pushing you based upon Shade, LAMIST, Reactions and TMI.

You've had what would be TMI from your half-baked perspective from the get go. Nobody understands why you're pushing because the decision to push came first in your mind and then you justified it afterwards. I'm not scum so you had to pull the reasons out of thin air. If you're gonna manufacture bullshit and lie about it at least make believable lies. The real reason you're pushing me is also flawed because I don't have Vinegar. I don't plan on getting it either.

I'm honestly real sick of people being disingenuous and then fucking lying about it. Lying in game is fine but you're lying about out of game shit and it's a shitty thing to do. Be better.

Again, kinda obvious once I thought about why you'd push me for no reason. And again, go read my fucking posts real closely and you'll see why your push is bullshit.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Btw, I'm treating this game like the mod and the longer it takes people to admit their roles and shit the more suspicious it makes them

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Btw, I'm treating this game like the mod and the longer it takes people to admit their roles and shit the more suspicious it makes them

How would a mass roleclaim be beneficial to town? I know you've explained it but let's further that discussion

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

How would a mass roleclaim be beneficial to town? I know you've explained it but let's further that discussion

When a game consists of pure power roles, there is no need to hide behind Citizens (Because there are none)

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Honestly I want to see Sauron get out of the ditch they are in.
TBD to stop acting so suspicious with their role.

I can see Spain Land admitting their rolecard now they realise how difficult their alternative rolecard is.

But I can also see Spain Land and TBD spending the night to release this information today to create a strong lie.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

When a game consists of pure power roles, there is no need to hide behind Citizens (Because there are none)

Are you suggesting we mass claim and then try to direct night actions? Or are you trying to catch people omitting part of their roles? Do you think we'd be able to surmise town v scum if everyone claimed completely based on their roles?

I see you explaining why we don't need to hide behind cits and I agree, but I asked for the benefit that town would get, not the potential drawback that is avoided given the setup.

[S-FM TBD]

Btw, I'm treating this game like the mod and the longer it takes people to admit their roles and shit the more suspicious it makes them

I can investigate for role cards and get optional one time uses of them if I choose. I didn't choose to pass the potato but instead check Acidic.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Ugh I kinda miss Dont Ask and their bullshit now lol

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

I can investigate for role cards and get optional one time uses of them if I choose. I didn't choose to pass the potato but instead check Acidic.

So now you know Acidics rolecard?

[S-FM TBD]

So now you know Acidics rolecard?

No as my night action failed.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

No as my night action failed.

Perhaps this is why?

Be one of the voters in a tie vote OR be alive after two or more people die in a single night or day phase - Gain a single charge to become non-targetable for an entire phase of your choice.

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

Part of the power of the Shitter role.
Question is how Egypt got it.

Also why have neither you or Spain posted the rolecard as instead a quick hand of it.?

[S-FM TBD]

Part of the power of the Shitter role.
Question is how Egypt got it.

Also why have neither you or Spain posted the rolecard as instead a quick hand of it.?

Supreme Enlightened

You are a powerful psionic mastermind who has been studying the power of the mind for decades.

At the start of the game, you are made aware of a random player's exact rolecard (but not alignment). You can use any of their night-phase abilities for night 1. If they have any charge-based abilities, you are assumed to have one charge of those abilities.

Alternatively, on any night phase, you can focus your psionic energy on establishing contact with another player's soul, making you aware of their exact rolecard (but not alignment), and allowing you to use their abilities for a single night. For example, if you focused on Player A on night 1, you would be able to use any of Player A's night abilities on night 2 only.

Your psionic abilities will fail on targets that die in the same night or are considered to be non-living (Ex: A player is an undead skeleton role, though that doesn't exist in this game).

[S-FM FirstDimensionalLife]

I was referring to the potatoe role but that's cool.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Do we really think that they'd give a blackmailing role to a townie?

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I'm honestly not so sure and FDL has been pocketing me and sidestepping my questions. Kinda scummy, ngl.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

-vote S-FM FirstDimensionalLife

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I don't think we should claim anymore.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

FDL claiming early with a scummy role feels like WIFOM. Could easily be a gambit to publicly roleblock and mute someone and not kill anyone n1. FDL seems like an experienced player and it seems like that would easily be within their scope.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

This felt... odd.

Official townsfolk here. This is my rolecard:



Now, anyone not being serious or acting stupid I will shut them the fuck up.
Apart from the first half of the first day, spanktalk away.


First half shall be discussing the competition of best AvaTar.

Then he posted that like 5 times. Feels like it was prepared, which it would have to be if he changed the color on his role card. That [ quote ] formatting feels weird, too

Which... Green? Post the exact bbcode for it plz.

This also felt odd. Like he'd spent some effort making sure his rolecard would be the right green. The bbcode for it was more in his head than anyone else I think.

Then there's this:

As in, the rolecard name? Is that the faction name? Like Coke Dealer

How many words is the name of your rolecard?

and this

Hey Spain what color is your rolecard?

and this

To be fair I could actually be scum. I just assumed because of the green rolecard and lack of night chat paired with a weak role ment I am town.

Lol, you all could have non-green rolecards and I might just be really fucked.

It's like he super latched onto having made his role card green. Like he just knew it would be a town tell and he was waving it in our faces. Trying waaaay too hard to seem town.

Am I tinfoiling or does this shit seem odd to anyone else?

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

It could just as easily have come like this:

Coke Dealer

Every night you can target someone to drug. They will be role-blocked and will sleep (unable to post) through the first half of the next day phase.

With that formatting you have to manually add the color.

[S-FM TBD]

It could just as easily have come like this:



With that formatting you have to manually add the color.

Yes for the record when I posted my role I added the green color (which I got), you have to add the color manually when copying the rolecard.

[S-FM Sauron]

How would a mass roleclaim be beneficial to town? I know you've explained it but let's further that discussion

Contradiction.

[S-FM Sauron]

ok but look at it like this - you can't tell me what to do

Mass role claim could work tbh

See. :/

[S-FM Sauron]

No as my night action failed.

Did anyone else visit Ascetic?

[S-FM Sauron]

I think Don’t Ask is your bud but I’d rather keep my vote on you due to your TMI.

[S-FM Sauron]

Personally I don’t think we should mass claim but we should claim our targets.
Mine is myself.

[S-FM Sauron]

Do we really think that they'd give a blackmailing role to a townie?

Do you really think the host wouldn’t RNG an FM game?

[S-FM Sauron]

I'm honestly not so sure and FDL has been pocketing me and sidestepping my questions. Kinda scummy, ngl.

How do you know they are pocketing you if their alignment ain’t even revealed.
You worded this as a fact instead of a probability.

[S-FM Sauron]

Lots of Shade, trying to save Don’t Ask eh?

[S-FM Sauron]

Just to repeat, Halloween Scum does TMI both Skin Overdose and Spain Land as Town.

[S-FM Sauron]

So if anyone is looking for the most rewarding elimination it’s Halloween.

[S-FM Sauron]

Could I be wrong?
Maybe.
But from how everything is looking there is a better chance a Dragon flys past my city tonight then Halloween flipping town.

[S-FM Sauron]

No one on.
Sad.

[S-FM Sauron]

Happy New Year. 🥳

[S-FM Sauron]

Before I shut my eye, For those who claim I haven’t explained shit, I just gave you some shit to look at so look at it.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

See. :/

Oh no! Heaven forbid someone consider an option and change their opinion! How terrible!

Fuuuuuuuuuuck

Offfffffffffffff

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Before I shut my eye, For those who claim I haven’t explained shit, I just gave you some shit to look at so look at it.

You still haven't explained shit. Wasted fucking slot if you're town.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

I think Don’t Ask is your bud but I’d rather keep my vote on you due to your TMI.

There was no TMI. Statistically, you're going to hit a town if you vote a lurker d1. Sorry you don't understand statistical probability but just because you're too stupid to understand something doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Just to repeat, Halloween Scum does TMI both Skin Overdose and Spain Land as Town.

I said skin overdose was scum you fucking moron. Read the fucking thread.

[S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween]

Before I shut my eye, For those who claim I haven’t explained shit, I just gave you some shit to look at so look at it.

What the fuck are you smoking and how do I get some?

[MartinGG99]

S-FM ThisIsNotHalloween is being replaced.

They continued to engage in insults despite warnings to not engage in personal insults, even after I specified the difference between attacking a player's play, and attacking players personally.

Their vote will be maintained for vote-count purposes, even if a replacement is not found by the end of Day 2.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

Post#762

You TMI’ed both Skin and Land as Town.

I was confused about your TMI accusations against Halloween, so I waited until you explained yourself, and uh...

If HH is town we need to look at who's voting him.

This is post #762. I'm not sure how this is excluding Skin and Spain from being scum, even in a scum!Halloween world (which I really don't think we live in anyway).

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

I mean I’m going to be voting you not just because of how shady and LAMIST you are but the fact that you flipping scum TMI’s Skin and Land as Confirmed Town.

There's multiple instances in this game of "if this guy flips scum then x and y are confirmed town" - but those are not scumreads in themselves and hence not worth pursuing until after a scum flips.

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

I'm definitely not worried lol I'm just responding so you can't scumpaint me for ignoring you

Seems genuine and true, I'd do the same.

This push is so weak I doubt Sauron has real faith in it, unless he got wildly tunneled on Halloween overnight (which is very doubtful, since he wasn't on D1).

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

There's multiple instances in this game of "if this guy flips scum then x and y are confirmed town" - but those are not scumreads in themselves and hence not worth pursuing until after a scum flips.

The thing is, they wouldn't even be confirmed anything lol

[S-FM Acidic Egypt]

No matter how you look at it, it’s a ML Setup.
Cant deny it.
If you keep trying to defend how it isn’t TMI it makes you look worse and you will slowly become more and more ObvScum to the point not just I will be seeing it.

What is a ML setup supposed to be? Mislynch setup?
And the last line is completely empty. It's meaningless aggression.

[S-FM Skin Overdose]

Oh look. Quotes.

My bad, I apologize.
Seems like about half the players are suspicious on Don't Ask and I don't really understand why.
I trust him due to #410 ftr. I think I should claim later so people can know the context of #410. I'll wait what Don't Ask has to say regarding the accusations against him first though.