S-FM 352: ★ Silent Night 2 ★

[Loldebite]

Lolde.
So you said at one point you said you seen them as aligned and another not W/W.

What was said by them that you thought could have still been W/W?

Also what’s “so final”? I don’t understand your last post on me when I voted Mac.
You also never mentioned Mac or my vote on them in that post either.

About Ultra/MM :

There's nothing that I thought was particularly likely to be W/W, and I don't know why you seem to assume I have such an opinion on some part of their interaction. I just like to decorrelate my reads so that I can challenge them both individually and in aggregate, ie I can then challenge my belief that they are not W/W independantly from challenging my belief that they are aligned. Pretty sure that's all there was to that stuff.

About finality :

I mean that you put your thoughts/opinion out in a way that sounds very final, definitive to me. So much so that it rubs me the wrong way. I mean this in general, and yes I know I don't mention it but that the post it struck me clearly enough that I could put it into words.

[Stellaria]

I'm trying to decide if you're distancing yourself from sabi or promoting conversation about sabi in the long run

[Achro]

Sure. Still think pushing a GTH read like unasked is uncalled for, bad manners and (much?) more likely scum than not tho.

Why do you think this

[Loldebite]

Very well.
I’m still going to continue to share my thoughts though.
If you have a problem with it, we can talk about it.

No that's fine. That's good, even. As I said I suspect this is more of a difference in approach/philosophy than much else, so you do you. I'd take someone active I disagree with over some dude that coasts anytime anyway, so you've got at least that going for you lol

[Stellaria]

oh shit by the way @deb I don't really think that I'm past the line' but at least I got a cool name now :0


also please don't call me Stella @DM ^^; I prefer Stellar, thank you

[Loldebite]

I've only had like 2 hours to sit down and read this game and that was at game start for what its worth, I've only really skimmed a lot of the newer stuff

This is pure AtE again. I personally don't care in the slightest. Don't waste thread space for that please.

[Achro]

Also if Loldebite is scum with that above post I am never finding them this game. Bad manners to give reads. Only a town member could think of that sentence imo

[Wiisp]

hi Wisp it's been forever since we played together. Remember dying embarassingly fast day 1 when we we're both mafia in champs, remember that?

I would very much like it if you could outline your playstyle for me. I mentioned that I thought it possible that you could use FF to escape the game conveniently when it gets late, but Sabi says that's not true. So I think I want to get to know you more to read you specifically because I feel like my read on you probably isn't fair

Do I know you? Lol

[Stellaria]

Do I know you? Lol

wow rip

My username on Mafia Universe was Minimania

[Loldebite]

Why do you think this

GTH reads are by very definition rushed, half-formed thoughts beaten up into some shape and thus I don't think they're nearly as interesting.

tl;dr I guess I hate GTH/hero/whateverthefuckyawannacallem reads ?

[Achro]

Minimania?

[Achro]

GTH reads are by very definition rushed, half-formed thoughts beaten up into some shape and thus I don't think they're nearly as interesting.

tl;dr I guess I hate GTH/hero/whateverthefuckyawannacallem reads ?

Ah. But they do cause reactions. But yes in general I don't give gth reads myself so fair.

Also I like how I remembered minimania but wisp didn't lmao

[Stellaria]

Minimania?

hi that is me

[Loldebite]

Also if Loldebite is scum with that above post I am never finding them this game. Bad manners to give reads. Only a town member could think of that sentence imo

I feel like this is a gross (and insulting tbh) caricature of what I've said but I mean I'm glad you found me

[Wiisp]

wow rip

My username on Mafia Universe was Minimania

Ohh hi its definitely been a min
Also I wasn't using ff as an escape to be fair, I had a raid schedule and weekends were usually me working 8 hours and then straight to raiding, and then sleep

[Dark Magician]

@Loldebote
It’s Day 1, No reads are set in stone unless there is literally an IC or Mason.
I will admit I indeed might sound like I say stuff as a definite sometimes but that’s just me sharing my thoughts and going through stuff.

[Wiisp]

hi that is me

Ah. But they do cause reactions. But yes in general I don't give gth reads myself so fair.

Also I like how I remembered minimania but wisp didn't lmao

I remember then after they told me their account name, chill

[Stellaria]

This is pure AtE again. I personally don't care in the slightest. Don't waste thread space for that please.

from what little I know about you deb, this seems on character for town!you

then again I dont' know how scum you plays but given Achro has good feeling about you, I think I'll' sheep that uh I mean agree with that since I have good feeling about Achro

[Ultra]

Achro is playing pretty horribly for an indie, in the sense that him townreading slots that have ML potential should be a net negative for him. I'm not sure if he's just towning for his own preference/amusement against optimal play of maintaining as much neutrality as possible or he's not putting all his eggs in one basket. Probably some combination of the two

Silly indies.

[Wiisp]

@Kutiplz
Can I vote mac?

[Ultra]

Assuming he's actually providing genuine coverage/reads, which I think he is, but it does raise the question regardless.

[Stellaria]

whats an indie?

[Wiisp]

Achro is playing pretty horribly for an indie, in the sense that him townreading slots that have ML potential should be a net negative for him. I'm not sure if he's just towning for his own preference/amusement against optimal play of maintaining as much neutrality as possible or he's not putting all his eggs in one basket. Probably some combination of the two

Silly indies.

He is most certainly not being townie with the way he is playing

[Dark Magician]

oh shit by the way @deb I don't really think that I'm past the line' but at least I got a cool name now :0


also please don't call me Stella @DM ^^; I prefer Stellar, thank you

Is there something shorter you don’t mind being called?
Or no?

[Dark Magician]

I guess I’ll try to work with and remember Stellar

[Loldebite]

Ah. But they do cause reactions. But yes in general I don't give gth reads myself so fair.

Also I like how I remembered minimania but wisp didn't lmao

Yes, but I believe there's many much better way to create EXPLOITABLE reactions. Like if I go "XYZ slots are Jailkeeper/GF & Medium" or some other wild/improbable theory I'll generate reactions, probably, but will those mean anything ? Likely not. I think GTH/forced reads are the same—unless explicitely asked for for some reason, ofc.

[Stellaria]

Is there something shorter you don’t mind being called?
Or no?

Stellaria
Stellar
Stell

that's about as short as I'll go lol

I have, uh, weird reasons for being weird with nicknames people give me. Let's chock it up to truama for now

[Wiisp]

This is pure AtE again. I personally don't care in the slightest. Don't waste thread space for that please.

Lmao I'll waste w/e thread space I want

[Stellaria]

I did a lot of AtE against Deb last game where I was Mafia and it did not work lmfao

[Kutiplz]

Spoiler : don't read :

OK wisp might be wolfing

[Wiisp]

Spoiler : don't read :

OK wisp might be wolfing

Really we are gunna do this again?

[Stellaria]

Spoiler : don't read :

OK wisp might be wolfing

y'all better watch a lot of movies together


or maybe not a lot, I can't decide which is better

[Kutiplz]

Helping Deb move to good vibes category.

Still figuring out stellar

[Achro]

Achro is playing pretty horribly for an indie, in the sense that him townreading slots that have ML potential should be a net negative for him. I'm not sure if he's just towning for his own preference/amusement against optimal play of maintaining as much neutrality as possible or he's not putting all his eggs in one basket. Probably some combination of the two

Silly indies.

See my claim post for details.

But for more. I like having fun in mafia. Winning is nice but secondary. Frinckles specifically invited me because he enjoyed my company before I wont sit on the sidelines just because of my role card.

[Kutiplz]

Really we are gunna do this again?

You have been ate-y

I haven't seen town you yet in this game.

[Stellaria]

Alright Achro is my top townread for now

I can't explain why. Not because I have no explanation but because

[Achro]

True wisp outed

[Loldebite]

oh shit by the way @deb I don't really think that I'm past the line' but at least I got a cool name now :0


also please don't call me Stella @DM ^^; I prefer Stellar, thank you

I understood as much and said everything I have knowingly.

Good thing you specify cuz I would've called you that at some point for sure otherwise lol

any thoughts outside dear Wisp ?

from what little I know about you deb, this seems on character for town!you

then again I dont' know how scum you plays but given Achro has good feeling about you, I think I'll' sheep that uh I mean agree with that since I have good feeling about Achro

It is, but I'm pretty sure I'd do the same as scum so there's that.

Don't feel bad about it, no one knows what I'm like as mafia not even myself cuz as I stated in my first post the day I roll mafia has yet to come. I feel like I'm mostly the same, tho. Only game I went further than D1 as scum I got so sick of one of the game's bastard mechs that I literally asked people to lynch me thinking I would be glad if they did—I was 3P so not throwing.

[Stellaria]

You have been ate-y

I haven't seen town you yet in this game.

how does Wisp behave as a wolf? I gave wisp an opportunity to explain himself but I dun think he wants to tell me anything

[Achro]

Alright Achro is my top townread for now

I can't explain why. Not because I have no explanation but because

No one tell them.

[Ultra]

Spoiler : don't read :

OK wisp might be wolfing

*Thumps chest victoriously*

Come and join the wagon

[Kutiplz]

Alright Achro is my top townread for now

I can't explain why. Not because I have no explanation but because

Awkward moment when achro isn't town and he's top tr

[Dark Magician]

Spoiler : don't read :

OK wisp might be wolfing

What’s your thoughts on Mac?
Have you read why I am voting them?

[Loldebite]

Lmao I'll waste w/e thread space I want

Meanie. I like you better as (co-)host.

[Stellaria]

Awkward moment when achro isn't town and he's top tr

you know, in hindsight maybe I should have worded that a lot better

I know Achro claimed Neutral, okay?

[Loldebite]

I did a lot of AtE against Deb last game where I was Mafia and it did not work lmfao

TBH I got AtE'd by Lumi once and thought to myself "never again". So I'm glad !

[Kutiplz]

*Thumps chest victoriously*

Come and join the wagon

Nah I won't. If there is a possibility he is town that won't help him so I'm giving him space

[Wiisp]

how does Wisp behave as a wolf? I gave wisp an opportunity to explain himself but I dun think he wants to tell me anything

To answer this, not really, my 3 champs games are ripe for the picking, since I rolled wolf all 3 times and won all of them

[Dark Magician]

Alright Achro is my top townread for now

I can't explain why. Not because I have no explanation but because

LMAO?
Man and I was gonna give you the benefit of the doubt.

I literally asked you a question like I think yesterday night or this morning where I asked “Like you believe they are truth telling neutral” or whatever and then I seen “good feeling about Achro” and I was like

Please don’t tell me you think their town? Wtf.

[Wiisp]

Meanie. I like you better as (co-)host.

What