S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-CBI Agent]

still ranks you above myopia.

and while we are in the topic, everyone else ranks abovia myopia for the same reasons

annoying slot

As much as I'd like to see the slot buried they are probably town, shouldn't get night killed, definitely shouldn't be the lynch.

[FM-ohno]

As much as I'd like to see the slot buried they are probably town, shouldn't get night killed, definitely shouldn't be the lynch.

i agree

still hate it and i will probably kill it if a poison dart ever becomes available for sale again

[FM-Tesseract]

I would like a thunderdome between me and Purple, if possible. The lie detector failed (when I spoke the truth and offered 3 different posts containing truths), somehow Purple already knew what seemed to be in advance (supposedly) that my Miller modifier would not affect it. I really do think they are mafia who used a factional ability to find a triad in Incon. As I said before, I don't see a reason for a town cop to claim "not town" and then sit on the "triad" information for as long as Purple did. The only small hesitation I have is how they planned to get out of it when I flipped town. So a thunderdome is reasonable, even if I get mislynched, it will out Purple. The small hesitation in that regard is if they can modify my flip with a tailor or if they are a disguiser. But I would rather go sort this out now, as it is clear I have my share of disbelievers, and we should not leave unresolved slots for too long towards endgame. They (scum) are keeping me alive for a reason.

[FM-Tesseract]

I would like a thunderdome between me and Purple, if possible. The lie detector failed (when I spoke the truth and offered 3 different posts containing truths), somehow Purple already knew what seemed to be in advance (supposedly) that my Miller modifier would not affect it. I really do think they are mafia who used a factional ability to find a triad in Incon. As I said before, I don't see a reason for a town cop to claim "not town" and then sit on the "triad" information for as long as Purple did. The only small hesitation I have is how they planned to get out of it when I flipped town. So a thunderdome is reasonable, even if I get mislynched, it will out Purple. The small hesitation in that regard is if they can modify my flip with a tailor or if they are a disguiser. But I would rather go sort this out now, as it is clear I have my share of disbelievers, and we should not leave unresolved slots for too long towards endgame. They (scum) are keeping me alive for a reason.

@FM-ohno sooner or later you should provide more information for why you had reasons to think Purple vs me was TvT. Can't sit on it forever, if your information is legitimate. I am not convinced that Purple is town at all. Unless you have some explanation for why lie detector was incorrect (but this still does not change the fact that Purple's other D2 tactics I mentioned earlier were fishy).

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

-vote FM-Tesseract

In their post, Demonic marks me as "unwilling" to vote the red check yesterday; but this is where my vote was D2, and where it will stay for now.

[FM-ohno]

@FM-ohno sooner or later you should provide more information for why you had reasons to think Purple vs me was TvT. Can't sit on it forever, if your information is legitimate. I am not convinced that Purple is town at all. Unless you have some explanation for why lie detector was incorrect (but this still does not change the fact that Purple's other D2 tactics I mentioned earlier were fishy).

i have said all im willing or able to say

[FM-ohno]

-vote FM-Tesseract

In their post, Demonic marks me as "unwilling" to vote the red check yesterday; but this is where my vote was D2, and where it will stay for now.

forsaken name me your top 3 scum reads please

[FM-ohno]

forsaken name me your top 3 scum reads please

include explanations if possible

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

forsaken name me your top 3 scum reads please

Tesseract - failed a LD, seems like today's lynch.

I don't think I have any real scumreads outside of that slot. Haven't been too engaged lately.
The next slots I would look at are Father and Sun and CBI, outside of whatever I may find when reading through flipped triad ISOs.

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

If you want high quality and high volume reads I'm unfortunately not the person you want to go to.
Hell, I've only actually read around 60% of the game as I've been so busy.

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

I like doing reads this way, so I will give you this. Maybe it will be more helpful. Same structure as last time, V top W bottom. Not ordered within tiers.

FM-Chad Knight
FM-Purple

FM-Mr Bones (definitely not V but I think this slot is always harmless neutral)
FM-Dark Unicorn
FM-Bizarro Pepsi

FM-Blue Beard

FM-Earless Artiste
FM-Is that a Leaf <--- Blob of "neutral"/null reads
FM-Myopia
FM-ohno

FM-Demonic TP
FM-Mr Pain
FM-CBI Agent
FM-Father and Sun

FM-Tesseract

[FM-Tesseract]

One possibility is that Mafia~Purple legitimately thought I was protecting Inconspicuous because I was his Triad teammate. This was at a time when Purple claimed Incon "not town" and I defended Incon because I thought they were a neutral lover and I did not want to lose both Comrade (my townread) and a town-affiliated Neutral lover. Purple had the extra Triad info at that time, which I did not (and I got it wrong, Incon was not Neutral solo 3P as I thought). So maybe the way that Purple was planning to get out of the fake lie detector is because they truly thought that I would flip Triad. That actually seems most plausible to me now.

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

One possibility is that Mafia~Purple legitimately thought I was protecting Inconspicuous because I was his Triad teammate. This was at a time when Purple claimed Incon "not town" and I defended Incon because I thought they were a neutral lover and I did not want to lose both Comrade (my townread) and a town-affiliated Neutral lover. Purple had the extra Triad info at that time, which I did not (and I got it wrong, Incon was not Neutral solo 3P as I thought). So maybe the way that Purple was planning to get out of the fake lie detector is because they truly thought that I would flip Triad. That actually seems most plausible to me now.

Removing Purple from the equation for a moment (theoretically), who would you want to lynch today?

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

Removing Purple from the equation for a moment (theoretically), who would you want to lynch today?

EBWOP - who would you want to eliminate, sorry!

[FM-Mr Bones]

This push + poison is kind of funny.

[FM-Mr Bones]

Can somebody give me an antidote

[FM-Mr Bones]

oh can we even recieve items?

[FM-Mr Bones]

i spent all my money on rocks

[FM-Mr Bones]

oh well gg

[FM-ohno]

ugh

i really hate forsakens world view but i want to say its NAI

[FM-Tesseract]

EBWOP - who would you want to eliminate, sorry!

Mafia I imagine there are about 3 mafia and about 1 Triad (after 2 have been lynched). The options are to try to find the potentially-last (if 3 total) Triad and prevent a factional kill or to go after the higher-living-count 3+ mafia roaming the streets. After Purple, my 2nd choice would be Leaf, who fits well as a partner to Purple. Never voted them, just sheeped.

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

Can somebody give me an antidote

Can't afford it or I'd buy it for you, sadly.

Darting a benign neutral is probably pro-town but super mean.

[FM-Forsaken Bones]

ugh

i really hate forsakens world view but i want to say its NAI

Why do you hate it?
Are there specific reads you disagree with? Some key information I'm missing?

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Last but not least, Dark Unicorn tried to convince everyone to vote against the triad that Purple had uncovered, using arguments so ridiculous that I'm surprised no one paid attention to it. Then he jumped on the train himself. Scummiest action ever seen.

Uhhh. Wut?

I literally fought to keep the PoE within Tess/Purple/Incon so hard people scum read me for even asking a question about Its Something's reasoning.

Please quote any illogical argument I made that supports what you said.

As a side question Mr. Bones is a semi-outed neutral. How would you feel about a vig on them?

[FM-Tesseract]

i spent all my money on rocks

What are you gonna do with all those rocks? You gotta smoke me out when we go to Mars. How many zorkmids are you up to? That must be the currency important to you. Are you like playing the solo game in your world over there or what?

[FM-Mr Pain]

My reads list, color coordinated for your convenience.

Town:
FM-CBI Agent ooh wee look at me, i put myself at the top of the town list.
FM-Purple Alignment cop with a good hit on triad inco, claimed lie detector role with a positive on tesseract.
FM-Bizarro Pepsi Shot a triad in broad daylight
FM-Its SOMETHING Outed their role and outed a triad
FM-Blue Beard It's a rare breed of player that's willing to both sacrifice themselves and attempt to hold town hostage in order to shoot someone, whilst also claiming some form of tracker, you don't usually see this level of self sacrificing from scum.
FM-Is that a leaf Got shot by four unclaimed shots, if that isn't scum trying to get rid of someone then I don't know what is.
FM-Father and Sun Puzzle solver role that's generally been helpful
FM-Chad Knight Investigative claim, feels good, mostly gut read.
FM-Mr Pain This slot has done a little bit of independent analysis, seems honest and quick to post. Weakest solid town read.
FM-Myopia This slot is probably town but I want them to die anyways.
FM-Dark Unicorn Haven't decisively put this one in a box yet, but I'm leaning town on them.

Null:
FM-ohno soft claim vig, not sure what to think about this slot, an amount of independent analysis, but I can't really get a good read on them.
FM-Forsaken Bones Kind of fence sitty? Not entirely sure what to think about this slot "whose ISO is unimpressive", want to see more from them.
Scum:
FM-Mafia Bro Claimed to shoot purple before they claimed invest, needs "laughs" for some reason, little independent analysis, inclined to scum lean them.
FM-Demonic TP "the anti-town faction", not sure if it's TMI. Has a hard on for leaf, put kitty on their town list, put purple on their scum list. Inclined to scum lean
FM-Earless Artiste Worlds biggest lurker, hasn't posted any reads, hasn't done any analysis, they're on the chopping block for today.
FM-Mr Bones Is almost without a doubt the frog fractions role, and has not been interacting or doing any amount of scum hunting, is definitely a neutral or scum
FM-Tesseract Confirmed alignment cop with a claimed positive on tesseract lying about the post "I am town", miller claim is probably unverifiable, I was never a fan of this slot. When do we not lynch here?

how come you mention investigative mech or claims in so many of your town-reads but hardly anything about mech in regards to me?

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I would like a thunderdome between me and Purple, if possible. The lie detector failed (when I spoke the truth and offered 3 different posts containing truths), somehow Purple already knew what seemed to be in advance (supposedly) that my Miller modifier would not affect it. I really do think they are mafia who used a factional ability to find a triad in Incon. As I said before, I don't see a reason for a town cop to claim "not town" and then sit on the "triad" information for as long as Purple did. The only small hesitation I have is how they planned to get out of it when I flipped town. So a thunderdome is reasonable, even if I get mislynched, it will out Purple. The small hesitation in that regard is if they can modify my flip with a tailor or if they are a disguiser. But I would rather go sort this out now, as it is clear I have my share of disbelievers, and we should not leave unresolved slots for too long towards endgame. They (scum) are keeping me alive for a reason.

I think its gona be a thing but 1 sided. 2 problems though.

1. You lied to us that if you were not top poster you would die. That was just an excuse to grab power and I dislike that you felt the need to lie to do it. When people lie there is always something to hide and there is nothing to hide about a town player developing their role.
2. Purple's check on Incon was correct. You are going to have to explain how they are wrong about you but right about Incon. Honestly I am supprised you were not night killed given Purple is at least confirmed 'not triad.'

Regardless of what happens I doubt anything short of multiple hard action claims that would make me willing to lynch purple today.

Outside of purple who else do you think is not town?
And while I am at it why did you end the day 2 hours early?

[FM-ohno]

Can't afford it or I'd buy it for you, sadly.

Darting a benign neutral is probably pro-town but super mean.

true.

with that being said whoever did it has my full support. where i come from i have learned the neuts out policy is optimal.

and if neuts out is not a option, at least make sure you can control them

also im going to bed

[FM-ohno]

I think its gona be a thing but 1 sided. 2 problems though.

1. You lied to us that if you were not top poster you would die. That was just an excuse to grab power and I dislike that you felt the need to lie to do it. When people lie there is always something to hide and there is nothing to hide about a town player developing their role.
2. Purple's check on Incon was correct. You are going to have to explain how they are wrong about you but right about Incon. Honestly I am supprised you were not night killed given Purple is at least confirmed 'not triad.'

Regardless of what happens I doubt anything short of multiple hard action claims that would make me willing to lynch purple today.

Outside of purple who else do you think is not town?
And while I am at it why did you end the day 2 hours early?

the hammer isint a big deal. incon was lock elim anyways and 2 hours is literally nothing

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

the hammer isint a big deal. incon was lock elim anyways and 2 hours is literally nothing

Its not.

But it happened right after Tess saying they will probably die and I asked them what reads and thoughts they would like to convey so they could be clearly understood in a post given people would probably never iso them. Their response was closing chat with a hammer. Not the greatest look imo

[FM-Mr Pain]

does anyone know why Tess was lie-detector'ed in the first place

I dont have the mental fortitude to read D2 any time soon

[FM-Mr Bones]

Can't afford it or I'd buy it for you, sadly.

Darting a benign neutral is probably pro-town but super mean.

true.

with that being said whoever did it has my full support. where i come from i have learned the neuts out policy is optimal.

and if neuts out is not a option, at least make sure you can control them

also im going to bed

one of you poisoned me

cowards couldnt push a lynch on me so you took the easy way out.

if only my greed for rocks hadn't gotten in the way.

[FM-Mr Bones]

now im angry. i get to just die at night because people can't put 2 and 2 together or scum couldn't be bothered to actually push me the entire game.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

one of you poisoned me

cowards couldnt push a lynch on me so you took the easy way out.

if only my greed for rocks hadn't gotten in the way.

So you are straight up claiming poisoned?

[FM-Mr Pain]

does anyone know why Tess was lie-detector'ed in the first place

I dont have the mental fortitude to read D2 any time soon

oh wait

@FM-Purple

im probably going to be the millionth person to ask you

why did you lie-detector Tess in the first place

[FM-Mr Bones]

and even if i was neutral, i clearly showed no signs of being anti town. i was one of the few trying to stop the mislynch on d1.

i suspect mafia/triad poisoned me in the off-chance that i was not in space last night.

[FM-Mr Bones]

So you are straight up claiming poisoned?

are you telling me you checked who died last night from lag's day start post and didn't see the gigantic red text?

[FM-Mr Bones]

keep playing dumb. you should have been kicked off a cliff yesterday too DU.

[FM-Mr Bones]

and inconspicuous was still a stupid lynch even if he was scum. it was a 1 for 1 in what is more than likely a multi-ball. i hated every word comrade typed out but he was clearly town.

yesterday should have been purple v tess. we knew triad existed already. now we waste another 48 hours spamming the thread and i get to die anyway

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

are you telling me you checked who died last night from lag's day start post and didn't see the gigantic red text?

Yup. Read flips, read chat. Its late and I have been partying a bit : )

[FM-Mr Bones]

so in short, triad (and mafia if they exist in whatever capacity) has completely screwed us because they have warped any rational decision making and killed most of the obvious townreads and lowhanging fruit indirectly.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

are you telling me you checked who died last night from lag's day start post and didn't see the gigantic red text?

Looking back at it I guess it is a little 'in your face.'

But I am not sure how it makes me scum for not noticing.

[FM-Chad Knight]

Whoever poisoned Mr Bones is gonna be the person in this video tonight.

I am going to throw a crab at you.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

so in short, triad (and mafia if they exist in whatever capacity) has completely screwed us because they have warped any rational decision making and killed most of the obvious townreads and lowhanging fruit indirectly.

Mmm.

Thought you were neutral yesterday.
Had a big issue that Tess thought you were neutral and worked to pocket you yesterday.
Still sounding like neutral today.

If the Mafia/Triad screwed you and your about to loose want to dump whatever dirt you have on them? If you cant loose you might as well fuck them back right?

[FM-Chad Knight]

-vote FM-Blue Beard

Why didn't you disclose that you got something for winning the contest?

[FM-Mr Bones]

Looking back at it I guess it is a little 'in your face.'

But I am not sure how it makes me scum for not noticing.

when did i say that you were scum?

i was saying you should be kicked off a cliff

[FM-Chad Knight]

-vote FM-Blue Beard

Why didn't you disclose that you got something for winning the contest?

@FM-Blue Beard

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

-vote FM-Blue Beard

Why didn't you disclose that you got something for winning the contest?

I thought he said he got a bonker hammer. Might be wrong here.

[FM-Mr Bones]

Mmm.

Thought you were neutral yesterday.
Had a big issue that Tess thought you were neutral and worked to pocket you yesterday.
Still sounding like neutral today.

If the Mafia/Triad screwed you and your about to loose want to dump whatever dirt you have on them? If you cant loose you might as well fuck them back right?

im town and was using him to make everyone think i was neutral so they would fuck off until i could go to space and be safe for a night.

now im dead because more than likely some dumb town poisoned a role that can literally just EXIT EHE GAME

[FM-Chad Knight]

I thought he said he got a bonker hammer. Might be wrong here.

Please go read the start of day post.