S-FM 339: ?KRC, M-FM edition

[FM-Myopia]

The point is to express doubt about my Myopia scumread because I don't know what the hell they are doing anymore. By association, though, if Tesseract flips scum, Myopia probably does too.

Stop tying me too tesse
You are tesse scummate and want me to be lynched next
As your kills dont hold any power against me.
I once lost a game by being tied by a scummate to a scummate. Lost town lylo.
Im not doing this misstake again.
You are scum. Outed

[FM-Myopia]

IRONY

/shrug

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I thought you were town. My mistake. Move along. How many freaking neutrals are out here? The sad reality is there are towns probably scumreading me. While Purple's garbage is getting away. It's amazing, really.

The feeling is mutual. I was very concerned about you grabbing power D1 though post farming but the things you did then made more sense to me.

Can you explain more why you are pegging players as non-town and not only ignoring it but advocating for their survival?
I also really mean what I said earlier. Why did you not argue that your miller function or my parasite could have impacted the result of the lie detector?

[FM-Myopia]

pop

I like you dude
This is a funny game

[FM-Myopia]

Haha

[FM-Mafia Bro]

The feeling is mutual. I was very concerned about you grabbing power D1 though post farming but the things you did then made more sense to me.

Can you explain more why you are pegging players as non-town and not only ignoring it but advocating for their survival?
I also really mean what I said earlier. Why did you not argue that your miller function or my parasite could have impacted the result of the lie detector?

Purple claimed his LD penetrated millers, fwiw

[FM-Myopia]

why can't we kill myopia again?

[FM-Mafia Bro]

"Let him answer the question tho!" Blah blah, this has already been in thread and purple/tess already had the conversation about it. I read it, it was awful, now you don't have to

[FM-Myopia]

The point is that Tesse tried to claim Miller to save themself, and substanciated it with having softed Miller before in their first post. They actually did the opposite and claimed to have been millered half way through the way, but then retracted it. That's not something actually millered players do. it's a lie.

This

[FM-Mr Bones]

I don't think you think about much past survival.

What part of my reasoning do you disagree with?

what reasoning? i just think think you're scum

[FM-Mr Bones]

i also hate purple and purple accessories but that's a different topic

[FM-Myopia]

That was literally my elaborated explanation based on someone asking me to elaborate lol

Yea yea now i know
Just back then i didnt read THAT much yet

[FM-Myopia]

Let;s chop tesseract and maybe a town vig can kill Inco. Tesseract flipping red will give us tons of info and spew.

Lets outpost tesseract and lynch inco an(d poison you?)
Im not sure on you bussing inco anymore tbh.
But you got sooo much scum equity, but just due to chad and leaf.

[FM-Myopia]

You guys are making me smh my head as of right now.

We all know smh my head is an ironical saying
Drop the jokes and prove u r "so town" and purple is wrong.
Find a bus driver claim n1
Or claim miller
Or prove purple is scum making a 1v1 (or 2v1 with commander) trade (which is highly unlikely btw)

[FM-Myopia]

What’s the point of finding scum when there’s already a scum we found?!

Do you think I’m scum reader 100 max plus expert reader or something?

Also whos that "other scum we found"?
Waiting for your answer, might be interesting later on

[FM-Myopia]

Who and why

treat me like an idiot

Oh man you noticed it before me
My posts are never smart/new/innovative.
Im just a repeating copy of others

[FM-Myopia]

What you mean the other way around?

Vigging tesse
Lynching inco
Not that hard to understand tbh

[FM-Myopia]

I literally said it, and everyone else saw it…
Bro you need to pay attention unless you’re ignoring me on purpose cause that’s ur team mate.

Yeah yeah sure
Yada yads blah blah

[FM-Myopia]

I don’t believe in all of that political voting stuff…

Are you really going to vote me cause I don’t believe in your politics and voting shenanigans? You guys are living in some make believe world…

Play the game or build a nuke

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Purple claimed his LD penetrated millers, fwiw

2 issues here.

Tess did not making that argument. The fact it may be a thing- sure. But the issue is why Tess has not considered and talked about these things in their defense

They also have not talked about how my parasite could have inverted the result of the lie detector. Its not like they don't know about it. We have talked about it quite a bit and my earlier response was to being mentioned specifically to clarify on what I know about the parasite doing.

Consider their thought process. Why would they ignore facts that suggest the read could be wrong and instead take a hard position that Purple is a lying?

Like.. If I was town with a mechanical result claim I am evil I would probably be very vocal about the potential that claim could be wrong if I knew it could be. The fact they have not even made that argument (much less fought hard to bring it up as a potential) speaks more to the mindset of someone caught who knows they were caught and instead wants to discredit the threat.

[FM-Myopia]

Tesseract is never doing the lie detect because they are scum.

I got you two scum today and one yesterday (Mr Bones). I think we can work with thst yah?

So how not trying to kill me today while im away? Yah? Cool

Bbl

Hmm let the council decide your fate

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

what reasoning? i just think think you're scum

What do I even say to this.

Imagine a game where people gave 0 reasoning and just said "I think this player is X alignment." Then when asked for why they believe that they respond "What reasoning?"

Like.. I am having trouble thinking of a way to convey how dumb it is to say you have a position but do not have reasoning..

[FM-Myopia]

Still feel like u r scum

[FM-Myopia]

I have seen town-play similar to mafia bro.

I have also seen town-play similar to Inconspicuous Man.

I have also seen scum-play similar to both players.

Everything is NAI?
Thats MY words, checkmate!

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

What do I even say to this.

Imagine a game where people gave 0 reasoning and just said "I think this player is X alignment." Then when asked for why they believe that they respond "What reasoning?"

Like.. I am having trouble thinking of a way to convey how dumb it is to say you have a position but do not have reasoning..

If it matters I am honestly having trouble how this can even be AI. Like.. What scum openly says they have absolutely no reasoning for the position they took..

[FM-Myopia]

Ok guys, I didn’t wanna have to out myself, but I am not lover… *crowd gasps* since I’m town and some of you guys are also probably towns members, I have to reveal myself…. My role is who ever votes me DIES instantly… so I suggest cancel your vote this instant or suffer the consequences..

What happened to the people already voting you?? They dont look dead tbh.
This feels like very scummy bullshit claim tbh

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

What happened to the people already voting you?? They dont look dead tbh.
This feels like very scummy bullshit claim tbh

Honestly we can say for sure its bullshit. Quite a few people have voted them and did not 'Die instantly'

Less of a question of 'If' it is bullshit and more of a question to 'why' that bullshit was said.

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Valid point btw. Good catch.

[FM-Myopia]

Honestly its not just the 'everyone' part that bothers me. Its the 'Knew' part. That is two qualifiers that express certainty as an absolute. Not 'They look like obvious scum' or 'I very strongly believe they are scum' as I would expect when a player draws a conclusion from reasoning. You have not even expressed strong reasoning as to why that player is scum which leads me to believe your position is fabricated.

Some people are giving you a town pass for revealing as mayor. I think that is dumb in a closed role madness game. One of the roles I thought about submitting was some form of reverse IC to use bastardized mechanics to my advantage. I am not going to consider roles to be AI in any way regardless of what it does.

Unless you want to tell me you have some other way of having certainty that Inconspicuous is not town I think you slipped in a very AI way.

Yes
He knew that because he had tmi

One scumteam

[FM-Myopia]

If purple scum => leaf and chad scum
Leaf or chad scum=>purple unknown ( but maybe individually scummy, probably?)

[FM-Myopia]

If you have a red check on Inconspicuous, why aren't you voting them first?

Theatre i guess

[FM-Myopia]

Ok I understand now.

Yeah thats the official answer

[FM-Myopia]

Cause he’s smart to not vote me cuz if u vote me u die instantly

No??

-vote fm-inconspiciuous man

Difficult name ngl
Gonna leave this for some hours
Just to prove you wrong

[FM-Myopia]

Like SOOOOOO many people voted you before
And they are all standing healthy

[FM-Myopia]

Eww i just saw
3 users browsing this thread(3 members)
And below just my name


Who tf activated lurking mode in anon game?!

[FM-Myopia]

Autmatic sniley conversion.
Good or not? Idk tbh

[FM-Myopia]

Here it is. I hid it pretty well, didn't I?

Reality and is an illsuon. Good thing you know me, the universe is a hologram. Buy gold, bye! As I awoke, I did not feel like myself. Why not me? I was hurting like during Y2K, I became Mr Pain (or maybe it was the hot sauce I used the night prior). I saw the rising Father and Sun, glowing various colours like a Kaleidoscope, flashing lights like at an Arcade. Due to Myopia, my Eyes couldn't tell what I was seeing. Its SOMETHING. Is that a leaf, why is it Purple? Why do I smell death, has the CBI Agent Mr Bones been hunting again (how dare he leave me here like a pile of Forsaken Bones!?)? How many times do I have to tell him, I'm not Mafia Bro! Still suffering from the hot sauce, Bizarro Pepsi (should have gone with Miller Lite), and that Comrade PickleRadish last night, I quickly wiped myself with Demonic TP and got onto my feet. In the distance, I could make out a blur of what I can only describe as a Dark Unicorn with Blue Beard doing Kitty Cat Dance (talk about a 2-on-1). What Earless Artiste created this world before me? It was as if time and space blended, these creatures and shapes before me became inscribed, along with me, within this Tesseract. ohno! What is happening to me? I used to be an Inconspicuous Man, but with my new powers and riches, the time has come for me to become a Chad Knight!

Could have used cryptography aswell

[FM-Myopia]

Time to get this game rolling.

I can day kill inconspicuous but it means I will die at the end of the following night.

I also have a "bonk hammer":

Item that can be used to turn someone into an amnesiac. All of: the user of this item, the target of this item, and the role the target remembers as will be publicly announced in the thread.

So vote tess, kill inconspicuous, bonk another scum read and give them a chance to become confirmed town?

How can bonkers conf someone town?

[FM-Myopia]

This is on par with the time that a player claimed Mason Assassin.

I do not believe this.

Me neither
Hes not miller, hes just plain scum

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

Could have used cryptography aswell

Except to my understanding its against the rules of the game.

Just curious, your now voting Inconspicuous. Did you see my points on why it makes much less sense to go for them over Purple/Tess or are you ignoring mech feedback claims in favor of your reads?

[FM-Myopia]

I don't value Inconspicuous enough to want to lose a person I highly townread to try and solve them. I don't particularly support this.

Yeah ifafter one out of {tess, purple, incso} flips scum chad is confirmed...
... as scum

Lol made the if after joke in predit
I think its a funny one

[FM-Myopia]

Except to my understanding its against the rules of the game.

Just curious, your now voting Inconspicuous. Did you see my points on why it makes much less sense to go for them over Purple/Tess or are you ignoring mech feedback claims in favor of your reads?

I want to proof insco claim wrong

[FM-Myopia]

Man the tesseract/unicorn avatar flip really fucks with my mind 0_0

Same man

[FM-Myopia]

Hm, this is interesting. Because I happen to know that you did take an action last night.

Lol
This is getting interesting
Another bus?

[FM-Myopia]

I think everything is scum VS scum theatre rn

[FM-Myopia]

They need to sustain mislims

[FM-Dark Unicorn]

I want to proof insco claim wrong

My point is that the parasite I got flips invest results. So it could be wrong.

To know that we have to sort what Purple sees. Purple also has a form of red check on Tess.

Lynching Incon will likely kill 2 players due to lover connection while lynching either Purple or Tess will only kill 1.

If you think of it mathmatically:
Lynching Purple avoids killing Incon and their lover + Tess meaning we solve 3 slots with 1 lynch
Lynching Tess also reveals if Purple is correct resolving Incon, Their lover and Purple

But lynching Incon kills them + their lover while solving Purple and Tess.

That means you either kill 1 player to solve 3 or you kill 2 players to solve 2. On the most basic level its dumb to go for incon here. We should solve between Purple and Tess or we should wait for outside functions to resolve this conflict. Because of my parasite (and lesser to Tess claiming miller which I no longer believe) we can not rely on investigative functions to break the question of feedback results so I favor lynching or killing between Tess and purple to handle this situation. Of those when disregarding feedback I see Tess as much more scummy though reading.

I mean.. What town player openly reads players as non-town and works to pocket them and advocate for their survival? It might be different if they claimed some feedback to believe town aligned neutral but they are just flat out saying 'I do not think these guys are town and want them to stay alive because they are not town'

[FM-Myopia]

I have to do a day command to instantly kill them, I kinda have like an explosive remote to explode my voters

Yeah sure
And im the host wladimir lagonovich putin

[FM-Myopia]

(Dont take this personal lag)

[FM-Myopia]

I have to do a day command to instantly kill them, I kinda have like an explosive remote to explode my voters

Yeah sure
We can move off votes off of you and vote them b4 eod