Can someone tell me what WRT means?
With regards to.
@Cass
Spoiler : players :
Did you follow MattZed's conspiracy? Mesk claimed inno and SJ fell for it in round 2, resulting in Mesk winning a scum game. Claiming citizen does not give her any credibility.
As someone who consistently does this backtracking, I respect this as yzb just being humble, rather than being scum. I feel like scum would rather try to push this thought hard.
I do think that ika vs yzb is town vs town at this point. This commemorates the first time that I have town-read ika in a non-anon game.
Care to elaborate on this opinion? IMO mesk has been somewhat scummy this game, hinting at reads all game but never following up. The firebringer scumread is pretty genuine to me and I don't really see a problem with it other than him being unable to prove cass as town through means other than host meta, but I currently townread cass so thats not a problem to me.
This is probably just a mesk thing though. Would still like to hear a bit more analysis from her this game.
Why is SP your second option as opposed to FB?
[I had some other quotes here but a copy-paste human error resulted in me losing it.
It wasn't much but if someone really really wants me to go back and remake it I probably can.]
Would like your thoughts currently on Cass. What do you think of her?
you litarly said im sheeping grylander and i quote
also you are claiming the case is weak buyt you continue to not refute anythign that was said so we can add buzzwords so you can adress the case itself so refute it with your worsd or shut up and quit with misrepresentation and word twisting
-vote quick
seriosuly im jsu tdone for the night at this point unless if someone wants to come in and tell me why the case is bad/wrong/adress the GOD DAMN FUCKING POINTS I MADE
My point is not invalid just because it isn't a standard game of mafia. Relate it more to Matt's S-FM Illuminati if you need to.
Mesk used the same tell as she is using here to fool superjack into saying that she was the equivalent of town in that game, thus winning it for her.
Tell me, how does her using this exact same trust tell in another game mean that she straight up is confirmed this game because she used the trust tell. Its very flawed reasoning.
wah! is that how you attach things?
I assure you it was an accident @MattZed
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ika*, Quick, secondpassing, Stealthbomber16
LOOK THERE ARE 3 VOTES RIGHT NOW THAT COULD BE ON ME LETS FUCKING GO
Fire needs more pressure than SP. I have SP because of the posts talking about how you are MattZed, which rubbed me all kinds of wrong. Fire needs to be forced to produce content. Anyone who just throws in two lines and leaves needs to produce something more than that.
I think she prolly isn't think try hard on a new site as Scum. I think everything she has posted has been genuine and valid.Would like your thoughts currently on Cass. What do you think of her?
I guess you have earned what this "insight" was that I had gotten on you. I town read you and appreciate your effort into clarifying many things. Honestly, I was bothered by your quick change from happy and giddy sounding into a serious investigating character. I was also aware on how early the day was and withheld my read so that I could make sure it was more correct. When I speak/type I am trying to convince myself something is true as much as I am trying to persuade someone else. So if I typed out how I read you very early on, it would be hard for me to reconsider ever.
Again, for emphasis: I read Cass as town.
And before I forget— welcome to sc2mafia, Cass. Hopefully, I don't continue to disappoint you. I probably will though.
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New players are easier to read. Explaining why new players need to be read differently "wastes" my time when everyone else should understand that new players are to be read differently.
Taken together, having you be a new player makes the game easier for me EVEN IF I had to do that explaining.
I don't like explaining obvious things, but if you're confused about it, I'll acquiesce.
secondpost is in regard to Day 1 only. If we lynch the cult leader, we win. Therefore, the chance of a cultist conversion is 0%
If we lynch a citizen, there is nothing stopping a cult leader from converting. Therefore, the chance of a cultist conversion is ~100%
If we do not lynch, there is nothing stopping a cult leader from converting. Therefore, the chance of a cultist conversion is ~100%
Whether we mislynch or not today does not affect the chance of cult conversion.
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Also touched on in last post is regarding your tone and my reaction.
I was in fact bothered by it, but felt no need to pursue it. You were already producing content to read you from, and I expected to either to change my town read or to just ignore it.
Also, I'm sick. Sickness makes me kind of extra lazy.
I'd like to point out that I have a town lean on Mesk because she is the mason leader and shes being nice to me. :]
o.O
I don't understand this from a Town mentality. Not sure if personality/site meta thing.
Currently thinking it has more equity as scum WIFOM/reverse psychology.
@ika - wut?
I think Stealthbomber's comment wrt Mesk makes sense.
The meta reason you have for Mesk is easily manipulated/not infallible - why get so angry about the provision of reasonable information?
Why are you so insistent that people vote you?
Are you really annoyed here? If so please explain why/what's going through your head.
These ^ are examples of yzb posts giving me slight Town lean. Provided my current take on the reason behind his pushing Gyr is correct.
None of it is impossible as scum but on face value I like the wide consideration and general thought process no SB to there.
@yzb25 - any issues with Stealth's more recent posts? I have him slowly trending up.
Only thing I have an issue with here is that I don't see why you'd push so hard unless you do have something against his playstyle :P
Out of curiousity, why Gyr over the other lurkers/low posters at the time? Personal history with him thing, or just because?
I generally follow the progression on SB here (and below), so ok on that for now.
Question though @yzb25
Why the 180 degree flip between the bold above and earlier (quoted below)? Progression essentially goes "Don't Townread Cass because Matt -> Cass is Town because reasons including I can't imagine Matt letting Cass be scum ?"
Messsssssssssssssskkk you're messssssssssssssssssssssssing with my heaaadddddddddddd
I get that you probably like it that way *wiggles eyebrows* but this pushing the same vote/lynch as one of the first posts in the game, based on host meta, prior to the candidate having any content is so and I don't think your other posts clarified it at all.
You either have no reason, reasons I don't understand, or you're scummmmmyyyyy. Right now you're unreadable ... and unless you're the CL that's unfair.
Sell it (Quick lynch) to me, or hunt pls?
Using host meta shouldn't be a thing (?)
Quick has content, if you seriously want them lynched, why is it bad?
I'll bring brownies?
Wanna see where your head is attt.
Cheers for this.
Main thoughts I have on it for now are:
- I don't think Mesk should be cleared solely for the early claim;
- Fair enough for Gyr reasoning, as far as I can tell
- I would probably expect Ika to jump on FB lynch rather than straight null-read them if he's CL (?)
- Somewhat harsh call on SP, can't tell if that makes it more likely to be legit or more likely to be part of a manipulative plan .... *rocks back in forth in corner with tinfoil hat*
- Your description of yzb doing less as Town than scum fits with ideas I had of his play preferences after chatting with him, but generally the thoughts I listed earlier on yzb still hold. Reconsideration on his part isn't a bad thing, and the rest of his play has been Towny enough for now.
- I've already given thoughts on Quick/this, I'll watch this space *popcorn*
- I'm not sure what Town game of mine you're referring to (?), but while (initial) intuition is a yes, I'm generally more of a scatter-shot and content generator than a leader. Also, I find it's generally repeated differences in play that are more likely to be indicative between alignments, so skimming only one alignment probably wouldn't give you any pointers on markers in my play?
Can you link me to the games you reference for YZB pls?
i see it like this, i just need to find one mother fucking trustworthy person that im confident i can read all game long. once i do that you're all expendable to me. theres one scum right now, peoples demeanour are going to change once they're converted, and if we lynch them scum can't convert again so this game is all about making sure things are consistent. but with that being said, im just going to randomly park my vote on Quick for some very basic random reasons
1) MZ totally knows Quick is capable of pulling of a scum win (hes a meh player and he can blend in well)
2) he got me lynched as a vigilante on a random Jester kill draw
3) just by looking at OP post, i get this psychic vibe, mostly comes from my vagina but i know it's tell me something.
on that note, im not going to come after you for not being able to read me cause you're new. I'm the scummiest person ever but im only scummy extra over the top on purpose scummy when im town.
if one person in this game can successfully see that im me, then this game is G fucking G, unless they get converted. but still
Also, the whole discussion about "Who would MattZed pick as a Cultist" is the very reason you do RNG to pick roles.
I missed some stuff.
Catching up I guess
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.
If no one has noticed I have not voted specifically to see if someone would call it out on me.
I don't think anyone has.
If they did I would townread them.
I always use my vote.
Why am I not here?
Don't pet growlithe, he will bite you.