Day 6

[FM Hopgood]

I am posting a huge evidence that colymer was in fact jailed
Will post in about 5 min

[FM Chapman]

-vote fm Leary

L-4

[Dunn]

@Donnelly, use that brain of yours. You are so close and smart. Ackerman claims student. Drug dealer died n5. A new drug deal is in place. Either there are two drug dealers consistently or the student became the drug dealer. Ackerman is the drug dealer now. It explains his sudden flip on Cafarelli.

The mafia are working very hard to frame evidence of Cafarelli being mafia when he isn't. Why, because I spent a hell of a lot of time FoSing him and I have a hell of a lot of influence. The coroner post is pure bullshit.

Actually, there is a loophole in the case where blackmail is relieved the night it's completed... so Colmyer could have done that. Still, Hopgood's not a jailor.

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Also Chapman is right. The savages will have to kill the mafia to win. If I refuse Dunn's plan, kill a mafia, I won't lynch you the next day. It's plain and simple. I'll leave you alone. P.S. Don't shoot Carruthers, I'll believe you converted instead.

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Cafarelli, I'm still not seeing "evidence" Colmyer was jailed. Given the fact you're pretty reasonable and I assume you to be town, please try again to answer why you believe Colmyer was jailed.

1) Why is Hopgood so quick to hammer and render himself powerless when he's a jailor?
2) Why reveal claiming he's "under pressure" when my target was Leary and the only pressure he faced is from the clubber?
3) Why does his claim of jailor come well after we've pressured him to reveal multiple times, including pleading "the fifth".
4) Ballard, Leary and Hopgood all FoS me on Day 4.
5) Why would Hopgood reveal now? What benefit does that provide the town?
6) Why wouldn't Colmyer just flat out say he was jailed? This post suggests that Colmyer had no more relevant information. Why would he withhold the jailor?

they won't have to kill us if you do it.
You have to be perfect Parker or you lose. And you have to remove a KPN over the next 4 nights. That doesn't happen if you kill Mafia first, or at all.

[FM Mendez]

I am posting a huge evidence that colymer was in fact jailed
Will post in about 5 min

Hopgood you have been a hammer voter twice. Even unvoting and revoting to get the hammer and ending day early yesterday....Why would a jailor EVER do this?

The only believable thing is that I highly doubt you would fake a jail chat like this. You have lurked and barely posted much all game. It's possible an ally of yours wrote it up for you or it is legit.

Colmyer did say he had something else happen to him that he did not reveal. It could be that you are a Jailor. A Jailor that reveals because of suspicion on you from Mayor, no votes, just a theory. lol

[FM Parker]

NO ONE CHANGE THEIR VOTE

I can change my mind if I am convinced the jailing is real.

[Dunn]

NO ONE CHANGE THEIR VOTE

I can change my mind if I am convinced the jailing is real.

Jailor nets you nothing.
1: it isn't an increased KPN
2: it gets you ONE kill if you live through tonight, AND hopgood lives through 2 nights.

If I am lynched I promise that won't happen. You won't have protection from the savages and the mafia won't be kind. I am probably the only one that knows I'm serious when I say the mafia won't kill you as long as I'm alive.

[FM Parker]

Jailor nets you nothing.
1: it isn't an increased KPN
2: it gets you ONE kill if you live through tonight, AND hopgood lives through 2 nights.

If I am lynched I promise that won't happen. You won't have protection from the savages and the mafia won't be kind. I am probably the only one that knows I'm serious when I say the mafia won't kill you as long as I'm alive.

I'm aware of that. The only reason I care if Hopgood's claim is real is if I messed up the savage godfather claim. If he's honest, then the chance dramatically increases on me being wrong about Leary.

[FM Ackerman]

I have to go for a while. Hopefully I'll be back before day ends to respond to anything that comes up in my absence, but in case that doesn't happen, here are my top scum suspects in case I die:

Dunn (obvious kidnapper)
Cafarelli (Claims town invest that is feedback blocked even though DD is dead. He's either consigliere or savage invest.)
Mason (doesn't contribute. about 2/3rds of his posts are only one line and are useless)
Black (basically same reason as Mason)
Ackerman (claims student. I doubt this claim and see no reason for town to make it)
Hopgood (unnecessary jailor claim. Impossible because Colmyer would've suicided a night earlier for revealing his blackmail)

I claimed delta Parker thinks I'm student.

[FM Parker]

Colmyer did say he had something else happen to him that he did not reveal. It could be that you are a Jailor. A Jailor that reveals because of suspicion on you from Mayor, no votes, just a theory. lol

Can you grab the post for this?

[FM Hopgood]

Post #1 by Colymer

That's a very interesting decision, sir.

For now I will assume you are a Jailor and not a Devourer (And that the Hidden Any is NOT a Witch/Neutral Killer like these silly folks this it is. I'm pretty sure our Hidden Neutral is simply a Witch... Well, I hope.)

On the good side of things, both situations (If I am released or if I am executed) are a win situation for the town.

My death would clear out a lot of confusion and potentially expose the scums (One of them being one of those three; Cohen, Cafarelli or Morgan.)



I am nothing more than a simple DELTA.



I was NOT Blackmailed on Night 1. Everyone has been wrong about this in the day chat.

This obviously means that my Roleblock feedback was real, and that I wasn't blackmailed on Day 1.

I was on Night 2, though.

As many said, a good player would wait on the second day to do his Blackmail task so that the Blackmailer could not blackmail someone again.

Problem is; they threatened me. They may not set conditions to their blackmail, but they can very well decide to do this (Don't worry, I did ask the FMGM if I could quote it before posting it here.)

You have been blackmailed. Here is a note listing the blackmailer's demands: <font color="#FF0000">All of your posts must only contain lines spoken by characters in the play Cleansed by Sarah Kane (the full text of which may be found here: https://www.scribd.com/doc/24140567/Sarah-Kane-Cleansed), which will be hereby be referred to in this note as &quot;the play&quot;. Your posts may not contain any words that are not in the script of the play. You must post the lines exactly as they appear in the play: you may not edit them in any way (this includes changing the order of the words, changing the words themselves, and adding ellipses in the middle of a quote to bridge two separate lines). Your posts must contain lines from the play and nothing else. This extends to everything that is visible to others when you post, including (but not limited to) your avatar and signature. You may not use your posts, your avatar, your signature, or anything else that is visible to other players to claim or in any way hint that you are blackmailed or that your speech patterns are not of your own free will. You may not put quotes around the text, or change the punctuation of it in any way. You must post it as if it is coming from you directly. If you don't complete this task on Day 2, we will kill you at night.

I did think that the fact that they would use a kill on a Delta was not so bad, and that they may have not gone through with it. Problem is, I was the one that got roleblocked (Which I now assume was from a Consort and not an Escort. Mafia probably planned this through.)

I decided it would NOT be a good idea to wait for the second day. At the time, I did not know about Morgan. I simply started spamming lines from the play, in hopes of someone finding what this was about. (I apologize for somewhat shitting up the day with that. I thought it was necessary for people to find out what this gibberish was so that they could understand and see my limitations. I was somewhat hoping for someone to go through the play and see what lines I could use (As I was obviously limited to those.) As soon as Parker found out about the play, the spam stopped.

You probably thought this through a lot before deciding to jail me. If you did, you probably went through my posts and looked for possible hints and others.

I, for one, do not believe there are two Blackmailers. Considering how extremely strong the role is, I seriously doubt it. Two Drug Dealers might be possible though.

If you noticed; I started regularly saying these lines;



He was an addict.

He died of an overdose.



I was actually ready to reveal my Blackmail to the town. In my mind, there was a fair chance that I was simply drugged to believe I was. I was ready to take the risk if town somewhat gave me a hint, a sign... anything.

As a Delta, even if I died, the information it would've given to the town in the day would've been very beneficial. It would also have confirmed Morgan as blackmailed.



I was extremely limited, but with these lines (Post #758 onwards)



Do you take it up the arse?

No.



Do it to me.

Yes.



Then love me. Fucking love me.

Yes.



I was trying to tell Parker (And the others) that I was roleblocked for real.

But of course, people couldn't pick up on such a dense message. I expected people to question it ( I could have answered that, since it was not related to the blackmail.)



You may also have noticed these lines;



Doctor. Please. Doctor.



Doctor.

Will you help me?



You'll be moved.



I was really hoping to pass the message that I needed to be, in some way, moved or healed (I honestly believe the Mafia is going to try to hit me tonight, IF THEY DON'T BLACKMAIL ME AGAIN, which is even more likely.)

I'm not sure if this is the reason you decided to jail me. If you caught up on that, kudos to you.



There is one thing though.

I reviewed all my posts and double checked them with the play to make sure I made no mistake. But the host cannot confirm to me that my task has been finished. I guess we may learn about it tomorrow if someone else is blackmailed (Though I doubt the Mafia would simply blackmail someone else and tell them to use such language that would obviously tell everyone they are blackmailed)

If I made a mistake, my task is considered not completed, and I think that no matter if you execute me or not tonight, I will suicide. I do believe I did everything right though.

Just do keep in mind that I might be blackmailed again (If they didn't try to hit me/If I didn't suicide.)



Sorry for the big wall of text. It's past 1 AM over here so I'll need to head to bed, but tomorrow we can discuss some and I can tell you about who I think is scum. A few people struck me as extremely suspicious after today's events.





Post #2 by ME


Hmm very interesting blackmail. It showed us that the mafia isnt dumb and it wont be easy for us.

First of all, I am a Jailor not a Devourer. The reason I jailed you is that it seemed like you are trying to tell us something but you couldnt. So I jailed you to get some answers out of you.

The facts that you wanted to give some informations to the town, and the facts that you are wiling to discuss about who do you think is scums indicate that you are town.



I'll ask the FMGM to comfirm that you can post your feedback here to be certain.



You claimed roleblocked night 1 and you were blackmailed night 0 but you didnt do your blackmail until day 2 Is this correct?



In your opinion, who do you think is scum?



I might have more questions later on but I expect you to post by the time I come back.





Post #3 by COLYMER

I just woke up and am about to head to work. I'll answer this as soon as I can.



You are correct about the Night 1 roleblock.

If you reread this part:

''I decided it would NOT be a good idea to wait for the second day. At the time, I did not know about Morgan. I simply started spamming lines from the play, in hopes of someone finding what this was about. (I apologize for somewhat shitting up the day with that. I thought it was necessary for people to find out what this gibberish was so that they could understand and see my limitations. I was somewhat hoping for someone to go through the play and see what lines I could use (As I was obviously limited to those.) As soon as Parker found out about the play, the spam stopped. ''

I was blackmailed on Night 2.



I'll be back in ~2-3 hours, I'll try to answer this and give you my scum focus.






Post #4 by COLYMER

Please note; this is not a ''scum'' list. These are observations, about things that definitely ticked me off.



FM Parker

This was his first post about the blackmail.

I ask that question because it would explain why there were three bus claims and a poisioned claim. Here, Colmyer is acting as if he's blackmailed. That's way too much attention for scum to want to draw to themselves.

Two posts later:

Ok, I added him to my ignore list. That might help with some of the spam.



Good night.

This struck me as extremely odd. Even though I was really spammy at the time, you have absolutely no reason to put someone on your ignore list. He should have known that even when blackmailed, I would have tried to relay information to the town. I'm still pondering as to why he would do that.

@Colymer = I know you're hellbent on gibberish. However, you can use it to help town provided it follows within your likely blackmail rules.



Claim your category in the investigative pairings by using that number of words in your next post. The number of pairings +1 tells me you refuse. Anything else says you cannot communicate.



For your next post, if you are trying to suggest who you think is scummy by quoting a work of literature, include only one word. If this was not your intention, use two words. Three means you refuse. Anything else means you cannot communicate.

This is where things go downhill. Despite how clear it is in the rolecard (And even having the GM telling him to cut it out), he still tried to get me to give him such information, which would've gotten me instantly killed.

Colymer, did Sarah &quot;Cleanse&quot; you?

Again, this would have gotten me killed. FMGM confirmed that to me.

Colmyer,



1) If I am Cate, are you Ian? Will you speak with the solider and tell him we had a wonderful time as you smell my knickers? If so, I can make the lead Blasted if you want.



2) Did you swallow a ring? At Tinker's direction?



@The rest, I swear there is a point to this. I think I know who Colmyer is. If you want me to reveal the code he's using, I can. I'm trying to figure out whether it is the mafia's direction or his.

Another attempt at getting to reveal the blackmail/that I was not talking of my own will.

Well Colmyer could have been drugged to believe he was blackmailed, but that would leave too many drugs. So I'm discounting that theory.

Why? Why assume that the others are not lying and that I was not the one to be drugged (Which is still very much possible by the way. Morgan might be the one that was really blackmailed. Might.)

If I get confirmation from Colmyer that it's ok to share how I figured out what he's quoting from, I will explain. If I explain, you will repeat my processes and possibly leave him exposed.

&quot;Don't Give it I can see that?&quot;



/// OR///



Most likely incinerated...



You gave them to someone else...

More attempts to get me to reveal I wasn't posting of my own free will.

Ok, I am having trouble getting through and communicating to Colmyer. I will keep how I think I know his role/future claim a secret. However, I will reveal he is using &quot;Cleansed&quot; by Sarah Kane. I googled one of the more unique quotes and that book came up.

Finally reveals to the town what I am using for my spam. He should have done that way earlier.

I quit posting because I was concerned he was blackmailed. Yet, I'm not certain. If Monroe's blackmailed, then Colmyer is not and I could have had a field day with him. One of the two is trolling beyond reason or the real DD feedback is blackmailed.



One of Monroe/Colmyer/Cohen has to be lying about being blackmailed or drugged.

This is false. I do believe Morgan is also ''blackmailed'' and that either one of us got the drug. Why did he not mention that this was possible?

Therefore, unless we have



Godfather, Blackmailer, Blackmailer, Drug Dealer, and Consort... the premise where both Colmyer and Monroe are blackmailed is impossible. The drugs already went to Cohen or the outed investigator.

Again, why is he SO certain that Cohen/the Outed Investigator got the drugs and not one of us? Does he know information we don't? He's not really making sense here.

I only have two bussed today for my notes. Can you post who claimed bussed today Ackerman?



Yes, I am suspecting two of the roleblockers from day one were blackmailed into claiming roleblocked. That is because we only have one claim today. I'm near certain that Colmyer was blackmailed into stating that he was blackmailed and the mafia blackmailed him again to prevent him from announcing roleblocked.



I only had one of you two down as roleblocked.

Wait, so he went from thinking that one of us are liars to being near certain that I was blackmailed TWICE in a row?

This is also scummy. I'm mad I couldn't point out all these in the day chat.

Ok, here's what I think happened.



Night 0



Godfather kills.

Kidnapper busses Anonymous with Morgan.

Blackmailer blackmails Morgan to keep quiet.

Blackmailer blackmails Colmyer to claim roleblocked (hence the extra roleblocked between day 1 and day 2)

Drug Dealer visits Cohen and lies to him about him being poisoned.

Consigliere gathers information.



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Night 1



GF kills.

Kidnapper busses Morgan or Colmyer.

Blackmailer blackmails Morgan or Colmyer again.

DD handles the other with the same message (as required by the rule cards).

Blackmailer blackmails Monroe to claim Mayor. After all, he cannot admit blackmailed.

Consigliere investigates.



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If we lynch the wrong target, mafia roles don't get confirmed.

This list is wrong on so many levels. Why did he go from saying he was certain one of us was lying and that he had huge doubt on Morgan to this? He shifts his story left and right.

I strongly believe Cohen is innocent. The groundwork for his assumptions are very well made.



First, he announces poisoned. He later asks not to be healed to confirm poisoner in the game or not. His death would have confirmed a role and something most players would be willing to do in mafia.



He lacks a heal message. Therefore, he was drugged twice, not healed or lying.



I admit, my scenario eliminates drugged twice.



Why is it illogical to assume that a player who requested to be healed was not healed?

More inconsistencies. Now he also believe Cohen to be innocent. Only a few pages before that, he was certain that at least one of us (Morgan, Cohen and I) was scum and lying.



Anyway, my point is, he is completely inconsistent. I'm not sure at this point if he's a scum trying to mislead the town, or just a townie who's just really, really confused and trying a bit too hard.

I'd say keep an eye on him for me please. I wouldn't ''focus'' him with a pressure lynch, but watch out for his post patterns.



I have some more things to say about others, but I'm quite busy with work, as always.

I'll do another post ASAP.




Post #5 by COLYMER

... Which is not anytime soon. I'm completely swamped with work. Apologies.



Post #6 by ME

Hmm FM Parker does sound extremely scummy with those infos. We should be suspicous of him and proceed with caution.



What do you think of FM Morgan?

What is your perspective on the entire town on Day 2 and their lynch train on FM Monroe?

Who else do you find scummy?



And its alright that you're busy, its understandable and most of us have a life outside of FM, we got 31 hours left to discuss things before day 3.



Post #7 by COLYMER



FM Morgan:

He joined with post #199 on Day 1, which was quite useful, as he gave his thoughts on the current situation

Hello brothers. I have returned...



I don't like Gallo. I would say why, but that would make my COM obvious, and I think I have certain enemies who would love to see me out early game due to personal &quot;feelings&quot;.



The three roleblock situation makes me almost certain we have an Escort, Consort, AND a DD. I am also almost positive we have a Consig, as that is a very important role for the Mafia to have and I doubt the host would leave them without one.



As for the Random Any, I feel it is an Evil Neutral. I almost 90% certain it is not a Savage, and I doubt there are 7 Mafia. It might be an Epsilon, or a Town, yet I stand by my opinion that it's an Evil Neutral.



Also, I believe we have three Alphas. The Two original, and one from the extra list. Giving us a Mayor, Enforcer, and Beater/bludggoner -fuck his name-. Also I believe off the extra list we have 4 Deltas from that.



Any opinions? The quicker we find out the role-list the better.

You can go onward to see his posts from there.



I have a STRONG town read on him.

Although I'm a bit worried about his blackmailed status, I do believe that one of us was drugged while the other was really blackmailed.

Both him and I were strong voices during Day 1, and Mafia obviously wanted to silence us.



If this is true, Unless Mafia has a double blackmailer or DD, Cohen or Cafarelli is scum.

We'll get more info on this tomorrow.




Post #8 by COLYMER


Someone who I do believe to be scum:

FM Bekowsky:

<font color="#FF0000">FM Ryan (Godfather)

FM Bekowsky (Consigliere)

FM Galletta (Drug Dealer)

FM Fontaine(Disguiser)

FM Bishop (Graverobber)

FM Lichtmann (Framer)



GG, lol

Starts the game with a troll ''gamethrow'' post including himself as Mafia. Absolutely no valid reason to do that even if it was the first day.

Disappears and comes back with this post:

I've just got back online. Just in case people didn't find the fact the game is still going and people aren't swarming me with hate-mail enough of an indicator, my &quot;Gamethrowing Mafia&quot; ploy is of course... well, a ploy. Disappointed by lack of activity 17 hours in, but lets see if anything useful came up.

Again, absolutely no valid reason to do this. Why would he do this ''ploy'' if the only thing it would do is put more attention on him?

Originally Posted by FM McKelty

eh, that could work. But if there's a lookout and doctor, they could both visit Cohen so lookout knows the doctor's identity.

It might not be the best idea, but I don't see anything TERRIBLY wrong with the suggestion, and certainly not enough to warrant a lynch on that alone.





Reserving judgement for the moment, even though I might vote later.

Encouraging a PR to go on Cohen. As I always thought, the poison on Cohen was either a lie from Cohen or a drug, which the Mafia probably would've used along with their more than likely Interceptor.

Everyone who was encouraging a PR to go on Cohen is now scummy in my eyes.

-vote FM Dunn

If you read the post, his vote is shoddy if anything. Filler pressure vote on someone with 3 posts.

I'll be on to post read an post in ~2 hours.

Says he'll be back before the end of the day and never comes back. Scummy.

Je etait role-blocked. Don't have time to post more:\

First post of the day. Probably roleblocked by an escort for his scuminess.

I'm just reading through the spam which is Colymer's posts, and something is striking me as odd. While it's possible Colmyer is BMed into making X number of posts, all of the posts on the first few pages are meaningless spam. Unless the BMer found a loop-hole which is forcing his posts to be purely useless (I am also noticing how all posts made by Colymer are 1 line), I would still be expecting something more useful, or at very least a typical &quot;SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM&quot; for each and everyone of his posts. Instead, all of his posts are varied, yet consistently useless.



Also, BMer is borderline broken to the point where I have to severely question the judgement/intelligence of the hosts if it was actually put into the game, and I am simply not seeing the benefit of wasting night actions on useless shit like making someone spam.





@Colymer: Do you want to be lynched? Simple yes or no question.



Even if it was a useless spam BM, why the hell are posts like these being made?



Really team? Colymer is being written off as BMed with very little discussion? I want someone to write me a draft of what the BM message would be that would cause a town member who wants to act as pro-town and productively as possible while doing the following:



A) Makes an incredibly number of posts, all of which are 1-liners

B) Makes all of these posts almost completely useless

C) Insults other members in some of these posts (Violation of rules. Wouldn't be allowed in a BM message)





Even things such as &quot;Act as scummy as possible&quot; are subjective. Maybe your take on acting scummy is typing &quot;SPAM SPAM&quot; a few times then calling it quits.







While I'm not sure I'm up for it right now, I am willing to dig through D1 and analyse Colymer's posts.





<font color="#FF0000">-vote FM Colymer







It is true, I am not finished reading through the thread, in which case I may unvote if these points have already been discussed. However, I really think we should touch more on the point of the Colymer spam.



^To clarify again





Severe insulting of other members is a rule violation. I doubt even Rocshi would allow the BMer to force Colymer to break a forum rule. A town BMed target may follow the rules of the BM, but he is still trying to fight against the BM and find loop-holes, and most certainly NOT trying to assist the objective of the BM. Soooooo... explain to me why posts like these are being made...



^Also, still going back to the same post. The comment was obviously directed towards someone, ruling out the Colymer can't communicate with other people.



<font color="#FF0000">-vote FM Colmyer





Last one failed.

Baseless accusations.

His whole focus is the fact that I insulted someone (Really. These were actually lines from the play. If you've taken a look at it, the play is actually a somewhat uh. Sexual play.) I was only quoting lanes from the play, with the ''Taking up the arse'' line hinting to the roleblock, which nobody picked up on.

He also said he would dig through my Day 1 post (Which he never did, probably because he saw I was pro-town all the way.)

He also didn't even bother finishing reading the thread before posting this. So dumb.



My two cents?

Either a <font color="#FF0000">Mafia trying to start a mislynch, or an <font color="#00FFFF">Executioner/Jester.


Post #9 by COLYMER

Also, We should establish a code.

If I do survive the night, we should establish one so that I can communicate with you.


Post #19 by ME(i skipped bunch of posts since they are really pointless)

How about this;

First letter in my first post of the day:

A. Blackmailed

B. Roleblocked

C. Bussed

D. Witched

E. Attacked and healed.

F. Poisoned

G. Architect chat

H. Jailed by somebody else/devoured

I. Converted

J. Received a gun

K. Received a vest.

L. Journalist

M. Doused

N. No feedback



This feedback will be give on the first line, I will skip a line after I am done giving you my feedback; exemple;



Gosh, man...



That night was very (etc etc.)



I'd be telling you that I got in an Architect chat and that I got doused.



What do you think?

LOOK AT DAY 3! HE DID THIS! HE TOLD ME HIS FEEDBACKS

I like this idea and I added N. No feedback.



If I ever want to reveal Im the jailor to you, I would post &quot;Hmm... This... Is... Interesting...&quot;
IF YOU REMEMBER DAY 4 #77 I POSTED THIS TO REVEAL WHO I AM TO THE DEAD COLYMER

[FM Hopgood]

There would be no way i just make up random codes that match his first post

[Dunn]

I'm aware of that. The only reason I care if Hopgood's claim is real is if I messed up the savage godfather claim. If he's honest, then the chance dramatically increases on me being wrong about Leary.

I understand. Who would be the next Savage Godfather lead then?

[FM Kalou]

Jailor nets you nothing.
1: it isn't an increased KPN
2: it gets you ONE kill if you live through tonight, AND hopgood lives through 2 nights.

If I am lynched I promise that won't happen. You won't have protection from the savages and the mafia won't be kind. I am probably the only one that knows I'm serious when I say the mafia won't kill you as long as I'm alive.

the mayor is the focal point. we're in a REALLY bad position if we mislynch today, so the town will probably side against whoever kills the mayor. thats my vote at the least.

[Dunn]

the mayor is the focal point. we're in a REALLY bad position if we mislynch today, so the town will probably side against whoever kills the mayor. thats my vote at the least.

And now you see why I intend to keep Parker alive. Protection from the Savages and the Mafia... I might be the only one that sees things as I do.

[FM Mendez]

There would be no way i just make up random codes that match his first post

The code could be made up. Also you could have got yourself killed for adding blackmailed to the code.

I believe you are Jailor though, I highly doubt someone could imitate Colmyers posting that well. You still shouldn't have revealed, what do we gain from having an outed jailor? You just made yourself another target for the scums and another choice that the protective roles have to choose from.

[FM Mendez]

The code could be made up. Also you could have got yourself killed for adding blackmailed to the code.

I believe you are Jailor though, I highly doubt someone could imitate Colmyers posting that well. You still shouldn't have revealed, what do we gain from having an outed jailor? You just made yourself another target for the scums and another choice that the protective roles have to choose from.

Not killed - It would still be considered claiming Blackmailed I think so you wouldve been delta'd.

[FM Kalou]

And now you see why I intend to keep Parker alive. Protection from the Savages and the Mafia... I might be the only one that sees things as I do.

then why don't you bait the savages to attack parker so town sides with mafia?
neither side is, in the near future going to kill the mayor.

[Dunn]

then why don't you bait the savages to attack parker so town sides with mafia?
neither side is, in the near future going to kill the mayor.

I'm not in control of the Savages, but I like Parker alive, so I'd prefer they not get to him yet.

[FM Ackerman]

-vote FM Dunn

[FM Parker]

Damn Ackerman! Now Leary is NOT at L-4.

I think the speech patterns are totally different in the jailor postings versus Colmyer's regular speech. Also, if you look at the first version of post one... the spot where Colmyer claims his role is absent. Second, who out and ANNOUNCES their role to a devourer. That makes no sense at all.

[FM Parker]

^^ to a possible devourer. Obviously, I don't think Hopgood is a devourer.

[FM Mendez]

then why don't you bait the savages to attack parker so town sides with mafia?
neither side is, in the near future going to kill the mayor.

if 2 kills tomorrow. it wlil be 21 players = ~10-11 votes to lynch

Mayor controls 4. I don't see why you think he wouldn't be targeted. I am starting to see why Parker wants to keep Dunn alive. If Parker chooses a side, the other side is going to attack him, it's simple logic. Parker killing savages gives him some possible protection from the Mafia kidnapper.

I personally wouldn't trust Mafia to do it, but if the Kidnapper doesn't protect Parker we can just lynch Dunn. A proven kidnapper is not as much a threat as a hidden one to us.

[FM Mendez]

Parker, I don't think hopgood faked that himself.

[FM Mendez]

Damn Ackerman! Now Leary is NOT at L-4.

I think the speech patterns are totally different in the jailor postings versus Colmyer's regular speech. Also, if you look at the first version of post one... the spot where Colmyer claims his role is absent. Second, who out and ANNOUNCES their role to a devourer. That makes no sense at all.

I can fix that

-vote FM Leary

[FM Kalou]

-unvote

. For u parker

[FM Rose]

-vote FM Dunn

A bad attempt to not look like a mafia.

[FM Mendez]

-unvote

. For u parker

lel. now its still messed up

[FM Ackerman]

Damn Ackerman! Now Leary is NOT at L-4.

I think the speech patterns are totally different in the jailor postings versus Colmyer's regular speech. Also, if you look at the first version of post one... the spot where Colmyer claims his role is absent. Second, who out and ANNOUNCES their role to a devourer. That makes no sense at all.

thats what I thought about detective claiming invest...

[FM Parker]

Parker, I don't think hopgood faked that himself.

I do. Look at the context. Hopgood also copied... albiet accidently "I like this idea. I added N. No feedback." What if that is from the night chat instead of the jailed chat (like Hopgood says). Why does a jailed person out their role in the first post when we hadn't confirmed there was no devourer. I don't like this at all.

[FM Parker]

@Kalou, can you put your vote back on Dunn? Both at L-4 or less is very beneficial right now. If I have to make up my mind at the last minute, I want that luxury.

[FM Kalou]

-vote Fm dunn

[Dunn]

-vote Fm dunn

Jerk.
Lol.

[Dunn]

Parker I think you should start laying out night actions.
1: for learys lynch if savage
2: for learys lynch if town
3: for my lynch

I will return in a few hours to discuss my own action, but is like a grand picture of it when I return.

[FM Parker]

Does anyone claim bartender? If so, I could use a drink.

I want to test to see if Hopgood is faking but I don't know how. Like a total ultimate test.

I probably should start laying out night actions. Gah...

[FM Mendez]

My suggestions. Obv mayor has final say

If Leary flips savage -
Dunn swaps Mayor with someone. wifom protection
Mayor gives Soma to someone trustworthy
Escort target - Ackerman or someone who has not been roleblocked, finding Mafia GF is crucial. If Savages have a regular savage it will be harder to RB them.
Not going to tell consort because it will be ignored

Hidden escort, do not reveal. We have enough TPR's pointlessly revealing. If you find the GF, that's the only reason you should reveal.

Another idea is to have Dunn swap Caf. So we can get some feedback. Dunn will probably not do this though. The problem with trying to work with scum

[FM Mendez]

The other roles I am unsure about. Like the Mason enforcer/clubber. If it's truly an enforcer, sorry man you're useless basically except to protect Cafarelli. Consider passing Soma.

[FM Mendez]

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Someone talk to me

[FM Fontaine]

I have not much to say, other than good luck.

[FM Parker]

Night Actions if we do not lynch Leary

Masons, if there's two of you, have the enforcer pass me the soma. I will be passing the soma to either Galloway, Cafarelli, or Mendez. (Don't want the savages killing the target.) I do think the savages benefit by keeping me alive... especially if I am wrong about who they are. If I'm right, well they are dying tonight so...

Mafia Godfather, take a shot at Leary.

Clubber, if you are here. Take a shot at Leary then Hopgood.

The second shot by the Clubber will cause Leary to die if he's the Savage Godfather. If not, the mafia has gotten it's town kill. Plus, we clear Hopgood as the jailor that way.

The savage Godfather has one autovest. That will be used by the mafia attack. Then, when the Savage Godfather dies in the OoO... half of his then living savages die. Considering Hopgood is second in the PM, he counts as still living for the Savage Godfather's rolecard.

Consort/Escort Roleblock Ackerman, so Cafarelli can get some leads.
Consigliere and Cafarelli investigate... just route the results to Dunn. I'm sure you can come up with a code in the night chat.

I want to lynch the savages... but the analysis wasn't convincing enough on the best subject. This way trades a town for a mafia in the worst case scenario.

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If we lynch Leary and he's savage, then

Dunn swaps Mayor with someone. wifom protection
Mayor gives Soma to someone trustworthy
Escort target - Ackerman, let mafia worry about the savages
Not going to tell consort because it will be ignored
Clubber hits Hopgood and someone else (I don't think Mason is a savage because Hopgood voted him, just pick someone to eliminate from suspect pool for now)

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If Leary flips town

Oh shit...

Dunn bus me
Escort block Ackerman
Masons club anyone but Cafarelli and myself.

[FM Kalou]

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Someone talk to me

What do you want to talk about? Its parkers call.

[FM Parker]

What do you want to talk about? Its parkers call.

Having many well reasoned opinions would help me make the best possible decision. I cannot play this game all by myself. If it's all, well it's Parker's doing/fault, that's too much pressure. I barely lynched Buchwalter on n5 because everyone was just sheeping me.

[FM Parker]

The problem with Lynching Dunn is that I have to depend on a clubber to be present. Do I want to trust the mafia to keep me alive, or do I depend on a clubber being present in the setup?

[FM Cafarelli]

@Donnelly, use that brain of yours. You are so close and smart. Ackerman claims student. Drug dealer died n5. A new drug deal is in place. Either there are two drug dealers consistently or the student became the drug dealer. Ackerman is the drug dealer now. It explains his sudden flip on Cafarelli.

The mafia are working very hard to frame evidence of Cafarelli being mafia when he isn't. Why, because I spent a hell of a lot of time FoSing him and I have a hell of a lot of influence. The coroner post is pure bullshit.

Actually, there is a loophole in the case where blackmail is relieved the night it's completed... so Colmyer could have done that. Still, Hopgood's not a jailor.

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Also Chapman is right. The savages will have to kill the mafia to win. If I refuse Dunn's plan, kill a mafia, I won't lynch you the next day. It's plain and simple. I'll leave you alone. P.S. Don't shoot Carruthers, I'll believe you converted instead.

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Cafarelli, I'm still not seeing "evidence" Colmyer was jailed. Given the fact you're pretty reasonable and I assume you to be town, please try again to answer why you believe Colmyer was jailed.

1) Why is Hopgood so quick to hammer and render himself powerless when he's a jailor?
2) Why reveal claiming he's "under pressure" when my target was Leary and the only pressure he faced is from the clubber?
3) Why does his claim of jailor come well after we've pressured him to reveal multiple times, including pleading "the fifth".
4) Ballard, Leary and Hopgood all FoS me on Day 4.
5) Why would Hopgood reveal now? What benefit does that provide the town?
6) Why wouldn't Colmyer just flat out say he was jailed? This post suggests that Colmyer had no more relevant information. Why would he withhold the jailor?

"P.S. Don't shoot Carruthers, I'll believe you converted instead."
rephrase pls
1+2+3+5) hopgood isn't the best player ;)
4) might be coincidence, or one just picked up the lead of another. i doubt a whole team would start fosing you all together, that would be buddying much
6) i've written my theory that he wanted to keep it hidden from the mafia. and what would it use the town?

NO ONE CHANGE THEIR VOTE

I can change my mind if I am convinced the jailing is real.

i don't like that. either way we should lynch dunn today, that one's an absolute


@hopgood: can you pls give us the time and its timezone when colmyer did post #3?

about the mayor protection thing:
i don't think anyone will kill the mayor tonight. we've not taken a side yet, we will do so tomorrow, it depends on the savages' action. killing the mayor would mean instant lose for whatever faction that kills him. (killing/drug dealing me or other TPRs wouldn't help your case either ofc)
also we do not yet need him for majority so why would they kill him. we have other confirmed townies for town leaders (-> as said i will not lead the town, obvious reasons)
i do not really think that the kidnapper would help us. finally the mafia would kill you off parker, with a kidnapper not even our doc can save you.

@mafia: i will definitely try to find a savage tonight. so if you're interested in taking out the savages with town's help you should not drug deal (or kill) me. however i cannot announce which savage suspect i will check, for obvious reasons. i'm sure you're aware that the best way of getting a savage lynched tomorrow is an accurate investigation from me.

[FM Kalou]

Having many well reasoned opinions would help me make the best possible decision. I cannot play this game all by myself. If it's all, well it's Parker's doing/fault, that's too much pressure. I barely lynched Buchwalter on n5 because everyone was just sheeping me.

I stood firm on my buch fos, even when earle was almost lynched. If you want to go my way again, lynch dunn, there is nothing else to do today.

[FM Mendez]

Night Actions if we do not lynch Leary

Masons, if there's two of you, have the enforcer pass me the soma. I will be passing the soma to either Galloway, Cafarelli, or Mendez. (Don't want the savages killing the target.) I do think the savages benefit by keeping me alive... especially if I am wrong about who they are. If I'm right, well they are dying tonight so...

Mafia Godfather, take a shot at Leary.

Clubber, if you are here. Take a shot at Leary then Hopgood.

The second shot by the Clubber will cause Leary to die if he's the Savage Godfather. If not, the mafia has gotten it's town kill. Plus, we clear Hopgood as the jailor that way.

The savage Godfather has one autovest. That will be used by the mafia attack. Then, when the Savage Godfather dies in the OoO... half of his then living savages die. Considering Hopgood is second in the PM, he counts as still living for the Savage Godfather's rolecard.

Consort/Escort Roleblock Ackerman, so Cafarelli can get some leads.
Consigliere and Cafarelli investigate... just route the results to Dunn. I'm sure you can come up with a code in the night chat.

I want to lynch the savages... but the analysis wasn't convincing enough on the best subject. This way trades a town for a mafia in the worst case scenario.

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The only problems I have is the highlighted part. Not lynching Leary implies we are lynching Dunn, and then another Mafia would be expected to reveal themselves.

Or relying on the possible jailor to take care of someone.

The other problem is the Witch. You could not pass it and hold it for the night and pass it on same night you receive a new one. Dunn cannot protect you from the Witch.

If we lynch Leary and he's savage, then

Dunn swaps Mayor with someone. wifom protection
Mayor gives Soma to someone trustworthy
Escort target - Ackerman, let mafia worry about the savages
Not going to tell consort because it will be ignored
Clubber hits Hopgood and someone else (I don't think Mason is a savage because Hopgood voted him, just pick someone to eliminate from suspect pool for now)

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Lol this looks like my post. Only change is that if the Clubber is an Enforcer, than pass the Soma to someone trustworthy and protect Cafarelli, as he stated in previous quote.

If Leary flips town

Oh shit...

Dunn bus me
Escort block Ackerman
Masons club anyone but Cafarelli and myself.

Lol @ this possibility.

[FM Mason]

Dunn is going to kill me tonight. He's mean.

[FM Mendez]

What do you want to talk about? Its parkers call.

[blackout][ /blackout]
whats that code do?

Anything, Everything. What do you think of Ackerman claiming he received a vest on n1?

What do you think of Hopgoods Jailor claim?

[FM Parker]

Look better?

If we lynch Dunn.

P.S. Savages, don't shoot the Mafia Godfather... I'll believe you converted but shooting the mafia is in your best interest. Mafia, shoot Leary. If I'm right, no one dies or the clubber will get him. If I am wrong, well the mafia got their town kill anyway. It's a win win.


Masons, club Leary and Hopgood. Doc might want to be on Mason here... just in case. Doc doesn't heal suicides from Savage death so don't worry about that, or at least wifom protection.

Escort go for Ackerman or whoever you believe the drug dealer to be.
Consort go for the last remaining unknown savage.

Investigators, investigate. Route your results through Black or Phelps.

[FM Parker]

Dunn is going to kill me tonight. He's mean.

With the possibility of you being a Mason, this goes against their goals. If you had to *cough* speculate *cough*, how many Masons are there? P.S. I don't mean FM Masons.

[FM Mason]

Would now be a good time to mention Dunn lied about my investigation pairing?