[Role] Gun Dealer

[feralasys]

Alignment: Neutral

Power:
- Refreshes Vigil's ammo for a price and could also give SK a different weapon other then just knives.
and or
- Refreshes Vigil's ammo once, twice, three, or four times depending on your choice. Allows the SK to get one different weapon.

Special Attributes:
-If Lynched. All ammo given will be taken into custody by the police.

Investigated: Gives ammunition and weapons to people.

Opinions?

[Nick]

Victory conditions?

[Zack]

"This is not an action game"

[Membrax]

Don't get the point of this role :o

This town version makes more sense:
Gunsmith
https://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Gunsmith

But even then, any public game with random weapons everywhere sounds like a catastrophe :P

[wightsnow]

But even then, any public game with random weapons everywhere sounds like a catastrophe :P

Oh, joy. Now EVERYONE is a 1-shot vigil.

[Goonswarm]

I would restructure this role to have the following conditions
Alignment: Town
Abilities: Every night arm a player with a one shot pistol that may be used the following nights. The pistol may be used in addition to any other abilities that person has. (Possibly replaces abilities to give them the 1 night kill option.)
You have X pistols.
Goal: Lynch every Mafia and Evildoer

This way the role would be more interesting as it could hurt/harm town with poor choices.

I don't think this would fit into the metagame that well but I figured I would give my twist on your idea.

[DeadDiver]

Or if this were to make it, perhaps only civilians and masons could be supplied the one shot, then people would use them more often.

[wightsnow]

Or if this were to make it, perhaps only civilians and masons could be supplied the one shot, then people would use them more often.

You really don't need to encourage people to use killing abilities.

[Zack]

I have to say, again...

"This is not an action game"

This role is out of the question :o

[Membrax]

The opposite role of this one could better fit:

Blacksmith
https://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Blacksmith

Abilities:
- Gives a vest to one person each night.
- That person will be able to survive one shot per vest.

[Zack]

lol, that would confound the vigi...

"Barney survived my attack tonight! He said he was sheriff! HE MUST BE GF! LYNCH OMFG!"

[Tony Montana]

For a price...? seriously we don't need to bring money into this, don't try to turn it into an RPG or some shit...

[Lysergic]

The opposite role of this one could better fit:

Blacksmith
https://wiki.epicmafia.com/index.php?title=Blacksmith

Abilities:
- Gives a vest to one person each night.
- That person will be able to survive one shot per vest.

So a doctor, but with a 1-turn lag per heal?

Better than making everyone a 1-kill vig, but still not ideal. Still, Blacksmith could be interesting if used in combination with a Doc (i.e. Sheriff could reveal, get healed by Doc, get given a vest, and then use the vest later in the game once the Doc is dead).

Hm... I didn't like the Blacksmith idea at first, but the more I think about it, the better I think it is.

Or if this were to make it, perhaps only civilians and masons could be supplied the one shot, then people would use them more often.

If the Gunsmith can only arm Civilians and Masons, he becomes a detector AND a Vig factory. Consider this:

I am Gunsmith. Nights 1, 2, and 3, I randomly try to arm various people. Night 1, I pick a Cit/Mason and manage to arm them. Nights 2 and 3, I can't arm the people (thus, not Citizen or Mason). One of those people reveals as Sheriff. The third is GF, but claims Citizen. Suddenly, the Gunsmith knows EXACTLY who the GF is, even with GF detection immunity on, and can tell the now-armed Citizens to kill him.

THUS:
You cannot exclude certain roles from being armed, without the Gunsmith becoming overpowered.

If you do not exclude certain roles, ANYONE can receive a weapon from the Gunsmith. Consider THIS:

Night 1, the Gunsmith arms a random person. It turns out to be a Blackmailer, who consequently Silences someone, and then kills someone else. Gunsmith has fucked over the town, and still has the chance to fuck up 2 more times by accidentally giving other Mafia guns. He could also give guns to Arsonists, Witches, Survivors, and other non-town roles (Jester with a gun?) and end up DESTROYING the town singlehandedly in a couple nights.

Thus, overpowered in town's favor if you exclude roles, overpowered in anti-town faction's favor if you don't exclude any.

[DeadDiver]

i actually like the vest from blacksmith thing, not OP, still not a big fan of gun dealer tho

[Lysergic]

i actually like the vest from blacksmith thing, not OP, still not a big fan of gun dealer tho

Yeah, I think I'm going to officially jump on-board the Blacksmith bandwagon and say that it's a good idea. x3

On a side note, is it sad that I spend a lot of time during the day (like, while out and about doing other IRL stuff) thinking about Mafia and different roles that get suggested on here? DR gave me a new addiction... Dx