Day 5: Trust the Jailor you say?

[FM Ceasar]

@Caesar

Same question as Rubber Ducky with this exception:

Replace me with Joker.

Seriously, I'm trying to write out thank-you emails right now. Also, putting my reads on Hood will be done before anyone else.

To Caesar and Frog.

I have played poorly within these recent few days.
I did not pay attention to certain players (Namely Dracula, Count, Hungry, Anubis) and I didn't read most of the posts made very well. I skimmed em nor did I try with enough focus to read posts in conjuncture with posts made by others. My bad


So. Give me targets to read and I shall look through their entirety posting history and give you my drawn out read on them.

Seeing how Robin seems to be a prime candadite for lynching, putting you reads on him might be useful.

Also, on D1, Joker made a 2-word post after Sam got his guilty on Watson

Why Watson?

He then proceeded to be silent for the rest of the day. It's one of those things which is so scummy that you can scarcely believe that scum would actualy say it. You may also want to do a big read on him.

[FM Agahnim]

Seriously, I'm trying to write out thank-you emails right now. Also, putting my reads on Hood will be done before anyone else.



Seeing how Robin seems to be a prime candadite for lynching, putting you reads on him might be useful.

Also, on D1, Joker made a 2-word post after Sam got his guilty on Watson



He then proceeded to be silent for the rest of the day. It's one of those things which is so scummy that you can scarcely believe that scum would actualy say it. You may also want to do a big read on him.

Got it boss!

Just let me shower

[FM Ceasar]

^D1, post #570 btw.

[FM Gimli]

-vote FM Captain Obvious

I think we have a more reliable chance of getting scum if we lynch him. I just don't think robin hood could be mafia/witch. Its a risky roulette.

[FM King Tut]

-vote King Arthur

[FM Ceasar]

I think we have a more reliable chance of getting scum if we lynch him. I just don't think robin hood could be mafia/witch. Its a risky roulette.

Explain please.

[FM King Arthur]

What doth not make sense to me is why any scum wouldst false claim vigilante, of all roles. Tis a role that is unique and able to remove false claimers from play. It seemed like he might have tried to bait the witch, which a citizen might do.

Then again, Pinkie Pie didst claim sheriff as a role that couldst be detected by a true sheriff. Everyone's actions doth not always make sense. Some people say whatever they feel like saying without thinking it through. Or it was WIFOM.

Speaking of which, Frog's day 1 plan was not fool-proof after we didst consider it further.. yet Pinkie Pie tried to force it down our throats despite valid arguments that were raised against it and he never did answer any of the concerns anyone had about it. Watson on the other hand said it was garbage, again without proper argumentation.

Is it possible that this plan was conceived in the mafia night chat and that supporters and opponents were chosen ahead of time? Was Frog the one who was attacked on night 3?

Along with Frog's unexpected turnaround on Gandalf after he didst claim doctor and his careful attempt to write me off as potential mafia today, which doth not make any sense at all if thou doth look at all mine actions thus far (if he didst call me serial killer, I could see why a townsmember might think that), I wouldst definitely see Frog as a candidate for Godfather/Mafia Mastermind.

I have not decided yet if I do want to back this with a lynch vote, because I know from experience that mine conspiracy theories sometimes go too far. But should I come to perish, remember this post and consider the implications.

[FM King Arthur]

-vote King Arthur

Any reasons for that vote?

That I hath been recommending to shoot thee at night, perhaps?

[FM Anubis]

-vote FM Captain Obvious

I think we have a more reliable chance of getting scum if we lynch him. I just don't think robin hood could be mafia/witch. Its a risky roulette.

-vote King Arthur

please go with what the sheriff said to do.

-vote FM Robin Hood

[FM Anubis]

-vote FM Robin Hood

[FM Anubis]

-vote FM Robin Hood

i hate the vote system. i really do

-unvote

-vote FM Robin Hood

[FM Anubis]

i hate the vote system. i really do

-unvote

-vote FM Robin Hood

[FM Gimli]

I don't think Robinhood is mafia due to PinkiePie's actions. Also you reminded me of Locutus.

-vote FM Locutus

[FM Anubis]

I don't think Robinhood is mafia due to PinkiePie's actions. Also you reminded me of Locutus.

-vote FM Locutus

but we're not focusing on mafia today. we're focusing on sk, witch, or last resort vigilante.

[FM Ceasar]

I don't think Robinhood is mafia due to PinkiePie's actions. Also you reminded me of Locutus.

-vote FM Locutus

We are aware of PinkiePie's vote on Robin Hood. However, seeing how Mafia killed N1, the chances of Mafia knowing Hoods allignment were minimal. To be clear, we are going specificaly after the Witch (and maybe the SK) today. Hood is scummy. We are willing to risk the low likelyhood of mafia allignment in order to maximise the chances of hitting neutral.

[FM Gimli]

-unvote

[FM Gimli]

-vote FM Robin Hood

[FM King Tut]

-vote FM Robin Hood

Getting defensive arthur? did you all not realize that vote didn't count?

[FM King Arthur]

please go with what the sheriff said to do.

-vote FM Robin Hood

Such a sheep mentality, going after the sheriff's command, who hath been active very little and might not always suggest the most well-informed course of action when he hath not found a suspicious result.

This doth look like a scumtell to me, particularly because thou art asking others to sheep after thee.


I shalt not support a lynch on Robin Hood. What little I know of him points towards poor and bored citizen.

Mine preference for a lynch that is not Sherlock wouldst go to King Tut. He doth not seem like someone who wouldst bother to inform the GM that he would be away ahead of time, since he hath done practically nothing but troll all game. His unargumented vote placed against me supports my suspicion that the mafia shall attempt to cause a mislynch against me sometime in the near future.

Rubber Ducky, Gimli, Spongebob, Wile E and Captain Obvious couldst have something to hide as well.

[FM Hamburglar]

Explain please.

"I'm framer/gf, please lynch the mafioso and think i'm a good guy"

[FM Ceasar]

-vote FM Robin Hood

I want to post my reads before lynch. However, I'm busy atm, so that will likely have to wait a couple of hours.

[FM Agahnim]

Let start us with the Joker.

His most on topic post of the day (Which was made a fair time after the Sheriff reveal and call out on Waston being Scum)
Day one: A hetic day of spam/trolling and the occasional scum hunting. That vote count and Lynch number confused many a people. Joker was probably one of the confused. Coming into the day late with that large a post number (569!!) means that he most likely skimmed the day and took little note of what actually had gone on. So his post of "Why Watson" is not a town nor scum tell at all. However! It cannot very well be a mafia tell. Why?

Mafia viewpoint:
"Wow. Look at all those posts. I believe that most of those posts are just going to be spam and trolling as it is day one.
Skim Day
Skim Day
Skim Day

Watson is getting voted. WTF happened? Shit this is bad for us, going a member down this fast is bad.
I need to go back and read what happened to lead to his getting voted.
Sheriff revealed - Called Watson scum. Shit!
Ok I better vote him to ensure blending with the town. He wont mind."

He did not vote Watson. He asked "Why. Watson."
This means that Joker is a Citizen, who cannot be bothered, or SK/Witch, who didn't fully care since it wasn't them getting voted.

HOWEVER!

He had made a post saying "Hi" and then a video post only a few minutes before Sam revealed his Watson lead.
Typically this means that he was there to know that Sam had revealed his Watson lead. So why would he post saying "Why Watson".

Day one Conclusion: Citizen

Why?
Joker made few posts and questioned the lynch on Watson even when he was posting just before Sam revealed his lead.
Bad scum play?
I cannot assume that scum are idiots. I have to assume they generally know what their doing.
Since Joker did all this. Day one he has to be a Citizen.

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Joker Day two:

I attacked Joker but he didn't die

-vote FM The Joker

[QUOTE-Joker]? You WIFO-ing?

ok, then. [/QUOTE]

Openly questions why he is getting called out.
In this game. All scum win together. Which means scum will not out scum unless they have to.
So illogical for Prince to do this. He is trolling.
Joker did not get attacked.

Couple this bit with his day one post and it comes to light that Joker is still showing a Citizen read.

Why?
He questioned the claim of the Prince. Brought it to light.
I don't believe scum would do that on day two of all days. They would more likely shrug it off as trolling instead of the seriousness that Joker took it with.
[QUOTE-Joker]
-vote FM Gandalf


Going with da crowd ear, eh. [/QUOTE]

Well here is the sheep vote and open admittance to sheeping.
Again scum ain't gonna do that so brazenly.

Day Two read: Citizen

Why?

Joker brings to light the call out on himself and votes with the Town on Gandalf and this is coupled with his posts on day one.
Day Two was not nearly as confusing as Day one was. On Day two everyone knew what was going on.

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The Joker displays the common Citizen play of I just don't really care enough to tryhard like all the town PRs. He tries to read deeper into Anubis and to catch up on day one. Joker could very well be a Citizen from what I am reading of his posts.

My Read: Citizen - Joker

[FM King Arthur]

-vote FM Robin Hood

Getting defensive arthur? did you all not realize that vote didn't count?

Nay, I do not make it policy to look at the vote counter after every vote. I just find it funny that even after thou hath informed the GM to spare thee, thou doth still continue thine worthless lurker/troll play.

[FM Ceasar]

Let start us with the Joker.

His most on topic post of the day (Which was made a fair time after the Sheriff reveal and call out on Waston being Scum)
Day one: A hetic day of spam/trolling and the occasional scum hunting. That vote count and Lynch number confused many a people. Joker was probably one of the confused. Coming into the day late with that large a post number (569!!) means that he most likely skimmed the day and took little note of what actually had gone on. So his post of "Why Watson" is not a town nor scum tell at all. However! It cannot very well be a mafia tell. Why?

Mafia viewpoint:
"Wow. Look at all those posts. I believe that most of those posts are just going to be spam and trolling as it is day one.
Skim Day
Skim Day
Skim Day

Watson is getting voted. WTF happened? Shit this is bad for us, going a member down this fast is bad.
I need to go back and read what happened to lead to his getting voted.
Sheriff revealed - Called Watson scum. Shit!
Ok I better vote him to ensure blending with the town. He wont mind."

He did not vote Watson. He asked "Why. Watson."
This means that Joker is a Citizen, who cannot be bothered, or SK/Witch, who didn't fully care since it wasn't them getting voted.

HOWEVER!

He had made a post saying "Hi" and then a video post only a few minutes before Sam revealed his Watson lead.
Typically this means that he was there to know that Sam had revealed his Watson lead. So why would he post saying "Why Watson".

Day one Conclusion: Citizen

Why?
Joker made few posts and questioned the lynch on Watson even when he was posting just before Sam revealed his lead.
Bad scum play?
I cannot assume that scum are idiots. I have to assume they generally know what their doing.
Since Joker did all this. Day one he has to be a Citizen.

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Joker Day two:


[QUOTE-Joker]? You WIFO-ing?

ok, then.

Openly questions why he is getting called out.
In this game. All scum win together. Which means scum will not out scum unless they have to.
So illogical for Prince to do this. He is trolling.
Joker did not get attacked.

Couple this bit with his day one post and it comes to light that Joker is still showing a Citizen read.

Why?
He questioned the claim of the Prince. Brought it to light.
I don't believe scum would do that on day two of all days. They would more likely shrug it off as trolling instead of the seriousness that Joker took it with.
[QUOTE-Joker]
-vote FM Gandalf


Going with da crowd ear, eh. [/QUOTE]

Well here is the sheep vote and open admittance to sheeping.
Again scum ain't gonna do that so brazenly.

Day Two read: Citizen

Why?

Joker brings to light the call out on himself and votes with the Town on Gandalf and this is coupled with his posts on day one.
Day Two was not nearly as confusing as Day one was. On Day two everyone knew what was going on.

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The Joker displays the common Citizen play of I just don't really care enough to tryhard like all the town PRs. He tries to read deeper into Anubis and to catch up on day one. Joker could very well be a Citizen from what I am reading of his posts.

My Read: Citizen - Joker[/QUOTE]

Okay, to sum it up, you believe that Joker is being an idiot, but he's being an idiot in a way which you doubt scum would play as?

[FM Agahnim]

Next up is Robin Hood after this commercial break
(imma get food and come back!)

[FM King Arthur]

With 24 hours to go on the clock, Robin Hood is at L-3.

HOLD THINE HORSES! No more votes on him for now.

[FM Agahnim]

Okay, to sum it up, you believe that Joker is being an idiot, but he's being an idiot in a way which you doubt scum would play as?

Pretty much.

makes no logical sense for scum to act this way

[FM Agahnim]

-unvote

[FM King Tut]

Nay, I do not make it policy to look at the vote counter after every vote. I just find it funny that even after thou hath informed the GM to spare thee, thou doth still continue thine worthless lurker/troll play.

You should pay attention to the little details. That's what separates the average from the great. And if anyone took the time to view the poll, you would notice I requested every day ahead of time. If you find that suspicious, that's understandable.

[FM King Arthur]

I don't think Robinhood is mafia due to PinkiePie's actions. Also you reminded me of Locutus.

-vote FM Locutus

Explain what thou doth mean with Pinkie Pie's actions.

Also explain why thou doth vote against him 5 minutes later.

[FM Agahnim]

You should pay attention to the little details. That's what separates the average from the great. And if anyone took the time to view the poll, you would notice I requested every day ahead of time. If you find that suspicious, that's understandable.

SIDE NOTE!

You are rather worthless in this game.
So stfu and get useful or just leave

[FM Robin Hood]

I do not think that we're going to win this. The mafia have just done too much damage.

Anyway

-vote FM Inspector Cluseau

Yes, I am still holding a grudge over him.

[FM King Arthur]

Robin Hood, hath thou taken the time to read up on the days thou wert absent?

[FM Wile E Coyote]

I do not think that we're going to win this. The mafia have just done too much damage.

Anyway

-vote FM Inspector Cluseau

Yes, I am still holding a grudge over him.

Don't vote someone just because of a silly ''grudge''. Cluseau and I got in an argument a few days ago, but he's been acting trolly for a while now. We have better targets right now, including yourself. Do you actually have any other reasons to vote Cluseau?

[FM Agahnim]

Robin Hood is most likely not a Citizen.

While he trolled and spammed during day one with posts like "Use special attack: Somethin something Arrow Barrage something" and "Scum List: Everyone but me" as well as "Why point fingers so fast."


When he joins with the Watson lynch, which was made quite some time after Sheriff reveal (Which could mean he was waiting to see if the lynch was going to happen or not), he posts "Might as well jump on the bandwagon here." This post is very very critical to my read on him for day one.

"Might as well" suggests he is forced to do so.
"Bandwagon" suggests he believe that the lynch train is a false one and also means he is sheeping.

Day One Read: Mafia

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Nothing Day two

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Day Three he claims to have been grounded, probably happened, and couldn't posts.
Somewhere else in the forum of this FM he says "I don't expect to have any other delays." which means he will be as active as he was day one. The opposite is true. He lurks and does not post day four and just comes back day five after heavy FoS on him. (He posts twice only on day three {The same day we get a suspect who flips mafia "Pinkie Pie")

Overall read: Mafia

[FM King Arthur]

I find it odd that in thine analysis of Robin Hood, thou wouldst exclude mentioning his half-hearted vigilante claim.

[FM Agahnim]

I find it odd that in thine analysis of Robin Hood, thou wouldst exclude mentioning his half-hearted vigilante claim.

"Trolling and Spamming"

It really only means that he is backing himself into a Citizen slot, which I highly doubt him to be.

[FM King Arthur]

It doth seem rather far-fetched to me that thou wouldst base a read on someone entirely on one line which doth not "suggest" nearly as much as thou art trying to imply here.

Especially if thou art considering a very similar quote from Joker to be a town tell.

Sheriff revealed - Called Watson scum. Shit!
Ok I better vote him to ensure blending with the town. He wont mind

[FM Agahnim]

It doth seem rather far-fetched to me that thou wouldst base a read on someone entirely on one line which doth not "suggest" nearly as much as thou art trying to imply here.

Especially if thou art considering a very similar quote from Joker to be a town tell.

What? O.o

Joker didn't vote Watson and asked why Watson was being voted.

Robin just voted him saying in a roundabout way "I gotta vote this guy"

[FM King Tut]

SIDE NOTE!

You are rather worthless in this game.
So stfu and get useful or just leave

Pie

[Forum Mafia GM]

Pie

Holiday break is over... start playing.

[FM King Tut]

Holiday break is over... start playing.

The Force Lightning! Oh no!
Maho!

[FM Michigan J Frog]

SIDE NOTE!

You are rather worthless in this game.
So stfu and get useful or just leave

I find these to be mutually exclusive because town needs people to talk in order to be useful. Why are you encouraging people to "stfu"? Unfortunately your attitude just seems like overconfident scum who is happy that the confirmed sheriff is wrapped around your finger.

Also, why do you continue to ask people "X, what do you think about Y" without even following up with your questions. You did this earlier in the game, as well with little to no follow up. I could understand if you're calling out people like Rubber Ducky and giving them something concrete to respond to in order to encourage their contributions, but to ask people like me and Ceasar random questions (that I really believe you won't follow up on based on precedent) seems more like assigning busy work to distract our energies from presenting arguments against you.

I would like you to go back and find every instance in which you asked "X, what do you think about Y" and explain both what you hoped to gain from their responses and what you actually gained from their responses.

FM Agahnim Day 3, #537

Lol No.
I was just seeing if you would do it or just do as Wolverine did.

Addressing Pinkie Pie, Agahnim said he asked questions just to see if he would answer them? This doesn't really make much sense. This is further evidence of Agahnim just sending town on wild goose chases: scum motivation is to distract townies from analyzing and presenting cases against their own FoS'es since they're busy doing "homework" assigned by Agahnim.

FM Michigan J Frog Day 3, #596

Agahnim decides to ask a lot of players a bunch of questions in the formulaic "X, what do you think about Y" style. Not sure whether this is leaning town or scum because it does encourage players to participate (+town points), but I feel like Agahnim's follow up for these questions is rather poor which makes it appear as an attempt to seem like he is scumhunting (-town points).

I still stand by this statement.

[FM Anubis]

Such a sheep mentality, going after the sheriff's command, who hath been active very little and might not always suggest the most well-informed course of action when he hath not found a suspicious result.

This doth look like a scumtell to me, particularly because thou art asking others to sheep after thee.


I shalt not support a lynch on Robin Hood. What little I know of him points towards poor and bored citizen.

Mine preference for a lynch that is not Sherlock wouldst go to King Tut. He doth not seem like someone who wouldst bother to inform the GM that he would be away ahead of time, since he hath done practically nothing but troll all game. His unargumented vote placed against me supports my suspicion that the mafia shall attempt to cause a mislynch against me sometime in the near future.

Rubber Ducky, Gimli, Spongebob, Wile E and Captain Obvious couldst have something to hide as well.

i'd rather have one person lynched, then have someone where its almost proven to be one of the scum we want to lynch, but we don't get enough votes because the people who don't care about this game aren't bothered enough to go and type it. i will remove mine, as i can monitor what is going, but can you trust those other guys to be here to vote and get stuff done?

tdlr, not a scum, just trying to make sure things get done.

also, i'll go after the sheriff's command, rather than someone with a strong town read, because 'strong town reads' are falliable.e

[FM King Tut]

Top Scum List:
Michigan
Arthur
Agahnim

[FM King Arthur]

What? O.o

Joker didn't vote Watson and asked why Watson was being voted.

Robin just voted him saying in a roundabout way "I gotta vote this guy"

Ah, I see. I skimmed and misread thine analysis on the joker. Now that I read it again, thou wert saying what thou wouldst expect the mafia to do. I suppose that doth match with thine read on Robin Hood, but it doth not make a very convincing case. Twould have been better if Robin Hood had let himself be modkilled though. He doth not seem like he's going to change his game much.

GM: Is it possible that more modkills will follow if previously warned players still show no desire to play?

[FM Hamburglar]

I support banning the trolling lurkers from signups too next time. Although that might make it impossible to start an FM due to too few numbers =\

[FM King Arthur]

Top Scum List:
Michigan
Arthur
Agahnim

Thou just listed all the most active posters who yet live. Congratulations.

[FM Wolverine]

Holiday break is over... start playing.

@King Arthur

I think the above post from Yayap answers your question.

[FM Agahnim]

I find these to be mutually exclusive because town needs people to talk in order to be useful. Why are you encouraging people to "stfu"? Unfortunately your attitude just seems like overconfident scum who is happy that the confirmed sheriff is wrapped around your finger.

Also, why do you continue to ask people "X, what do you think about Y" without even following up with your questions. You did this earlier in the game, as well with little to no follow up. I could understand if you're calling out people like Rubber Ducky and giving them something concrete to respond to in order to encourage their contributions, but to ask people like me and Ceasar random questions (that I really believe you won't follow up on based on precedent) seems more like assigning busy work to distract our energies from presenting arguments against you.

I would like you to go back and find every instance in which you asked "X, what do you think about Y" and explain both what you hoped to gain from their responses and what you actually gained from their responses.

FM Agahnim Day 3, #537


Addressing Pinkie Pie, Agahnim said he asked questions just to see if he would answer them? This doesn't really make much sense. This is further evidence of Agahnim just sending town on wild goose chases: scum motivation is to distract townies from analyzing and presenting cases against their own FoS'es since they're busy doing "homework" assigned by Agahnim.

FM Michigan J Frog Day 3, #596


I still stand by this statement.

You don't like me.
Got it.