M-FM XV Nasty Rumours: Welcome to Treasure Town! Gamethread

[M-FM Wigglytuff]

Never mind, I think it was you saying you were attacked and survived... Lol

[M-FM Skuntank]

We're also missing the kill of whoever killed Drowzee night one, right? This is such a clusterfuck. Fragos is probably laughing his ass off right now.

[M-FM Grovyle]

The night 2 sk kill was on me, but I overworked to survive...

[M-FM Magnezone]

-unvote

-vote M-FM Wigglytuff

Meh either wiggly or uxie. Chatot can be overworked blackmailed. But i trust citizenz!

[Termite]

Erm, wow. So many logic holes

-unvote

I don't trust any of you. Chatot is the towniest player to me in all of this. Uxie, Celebi, and Wigglytuff all seem incredibly scummy.

Okay, this is fair enough. You find Uxie, Wigglytuff and myself self scummy, but Chatot towny. Wigglytuff is scum, Uxie is techicaly neutral, and I have been WIFOMing neutral to stay alive to get those shots off.

The only thing I think I know for certain is that Celebi and Uxie are on a team. It's possible that they are town, but it's possible that they're scum together. It also seems plausible that Wiggly is a neutral scum that wants to stay under the radar by confirming Celebi. Celebi, if you are vigilante, shooting Chatot is the best bet.

Did you not just say that Chatot seems towny to you? Now you want me to kill him. Super scummy. Sunflora wisely points out, Chatot has quite a high chance of being overwatch blackmailed. His actions didn't seem quite right to me, as if he were trying to get killed. Overwatch BMer fits things together perfectly. However, here you are trying to get me to kill Chatot.

As for the plausible lynches today, Celebi, Uxie, Chatot, and Wigglytuff are all reasonable lynches.

Wigglytuff is the only plausable lynch. I shall be able to confirm myself tonight, thereby clearing Uxie. Chatot's blackmailer overwatch would have worn off, causing him to return to sanity. I will flip shit if you lynch Uxie

Uxie, being a claimed neutral, is probably the safest. His death confirms whether Chatot is sheriff. In addition, if he confirms Celebi as his skypebuddy, (which he hasn't actually done yet) and flips mafia, we know Celebi is mafia. If he is skyper, that confirms nothing about Celebi. The loss of a skyper is not much of a loss to town.

His overwatch ability means that he is more useful then a citizen, and throwing away extra votes is a bad thing. Again, you're setting it up for Chatot to take the fall if Uxie gets lynched.

If we lynch Chatot and he flips sheriff, we know Uxie and Celebi are scum. If he's mafia, they probably aren't scum. What a lot of people are overlooking is that he cleared Lapras as innocent. If Chatot is mafia, Lapras is likely an ally. If he is sheriff, that may be a major loss for town.

If we lynch Celebi and he flips Vigilante, and Uxie confirms Celebi as his mentor, Uxie is confirmed town. Note that he does not suicide unless his entire faction is dead. Uxie is suggesting that he dies with his partner, but that is not the case according to the role cards. In addition, Wigglytuff and Chatot are both likely scum. If Celebi flips scum, and Uxie is his partner, Uxie is confirmed scum and will suicide when the scum faction dies. (Which may be immediately, depending on the setup.) In addition, Wigglytuff is likely town, as is Chatot. The loss of a Vigilante would probably be bad, seeing as he's (probably) the town's only KPN.

Why are you over-looking the much easier way for me to prove myself by killing/tormenting someone tonight? Why are you saying that lynching one of us is potentialy a good move?

If we lynch Wigglytuff and he flips mafia, Celebi and Uxie (if he confirms as Celebi's partner) are pretty much confirmed town and Chatot is probably scum. If Wigglytuff flips town, Celebi is pretty much scum and so is Uxie, which would make Chatot town.

See above for huge missing part of logic by ignoring BM possibility

If there are any holes in logic here, point them out.

[M-FM Uxie]

guys I know my target is the vigilante.

[M-FM Uxie]

and my target is Celebi, this is my night PM:

"now I hope you ARE really town because that will help the both of us. confirm your town claim by ending your first post of the day with a .

now its time to figure your role, under here will be a list of letters which I have assigned to a role respectively. you need to START the FIRST post of your day with the LETTER that corresponds to your role. doesn't matter if its in a word, alone or in invis text.

S - sheriff
I - invest
D - detective
L - lookout
O - doctor
B - bodyguard
E - escort
A - bus driver
T - town elder
M - mason
J - jailor
V - vigilante
C - veteran
U - journalist
Z - coronorer
F - citizen

you CAN just have it in front of a word and make it look like a spelling error. just HAVE it as the first letter.

glhf "

[M-FM Uxie]

n1 I was asked by a journalist (the corrupt one probs) to write a lil essay for him. here is the message + the journalistic report

"""dear celibi,

I am the skyper that has gotten you asigned as their target, I need to know your alignment because I will win with you for obvious reasons.

if you are town in your first post of the day end it with a ...

if you are mafia in your first post of the day end it with a .

if you are a neutral beng end your post without punction

if you are rebel end your post with )

if you are a neutral killer end your post with ./


if you plan on getting killed the following day/night you need to state this by ending your first post of a day with a !

then I can overwork and give you a second chance of victory.

so if you are town post something like this: "good morning everybody, I guess that was a good night..."
mafia: "good morning everybody, that night sucked for town."

rebel: "well that was a great night for town... (not)"

~Uxie I am on your side.

P.S. I have been tasked with writing an article for the journalist tonight. keep that in mind and don't fuck me over with it please."""

Journalistic report:

"I can give no comments on whom I think is scum at this point in time as I have not seen any slips or scummy behavior that really caught my eye.

I need time to steer people into giving me the reactions that I require to conduct my investigative research so come back later if you want my leads."

[M-FM Uxie]

Very interesting lead on Uxie. I'll look at it more in an hour or soa.

V = vigilante

Hey guys. I do agree that while Diglett would have a high chance of being framed after all the negative attention by town D1 (big reason why I don't like town planning out who they think is most scummy D1), there is no denying how incredibly scummy he's acting. Unfortunate that he claims one of the few PRs who have no way of proving themselves...

... = town

now let me read up on the rest of the day.

[M-FM Uxie]

-vote Wigglypuff

I think I was either framed or Chatot got overworked by a blackmailer at this point. Wiggly fails and slipped so damn hard. tomorrow we will see if Chatot got overworked or not.

I would like to request a doctor on me for the night while I overwork on Celebi.

[M-FM Skuntank]

Erm, wow. So many logic holes

1. Yes, I said Chatot was a town read. I said I thought you were scum. However, you being town means Chatot is scum. I asked you to prove yourself as vigilante by shooting him, because if you are telling the truth, he is not the sheriff. I agree that there is a possibility that Chatot is blackmailed. However, if we are to assume that every time someone acts scummy that they are super-blackmailed, that's just a frustrating waste of time. In addition, assuming that you are town, the blackmail yesterday could have been him just faking it. If you, and by extension Uxie, are town that makes him probably scum. Not only that, but what if someone other than Chatot is blackmailed today? What if you are blackmailed to support Uxie's claim? What if Wigglytuff is blackmailed to look as scummy as possible? What if I'm blackmailed to... well I don't really know what I'm doing to help mafia today, unless Chatot is scum. What if someone has simply been silenced and hasn't talked?

2. Plausible meaning the only people I would be willing to lynch. If you are not vigilante, you could just claim roleblocked or that you decided not to shoot. Chatot could actually be scum. If you are lying, so is Uxie.

3. Uxie would be more useful than a citizen, IF he's skyper. I'm not sure I believe that. I'm usually majorly suspicious of all claims. Earlier was an anomaly because I'd trusted Chatot. Big mistake.

4. I'm saying that lynching one of you is potentially a good move because it is. While I may have been overlooking the blackmail overlook, you are overlooking the possibility that you could be scum. The entire post you're talking about (please, nobody but answers inside the quote, it's so frustrating) is "Why should we lynch this person? What would happen?" Not "Why shouldn't we lynch this person?"

[M-FM Skuntank]

guys I know my target is the vigilante.

How do you know your target is telling the truth?

[M-FM Loudred]

All aboard the lynch train.

Chugga

Chugga

Chugga

Chugga

Choo-choo!

-vote M-FM Wigglypuff

[M-FM Sunflora]

All aboard the lynch train.

Chugga

Chugga

Chugga

Chugga

Choo-choo!

-vote M-FM Wigglypuff

^^^

-vote M-FM Wigglypuff

I dislike how Uxie is blindly believing that Celebi is Vigilante because he answered a code.

Celebi needs to say who he is shooting tonight to prove himself.
If we lynch, I agree that Wigglypuff is the best lynch.
If tomorrow Chatot still accuses Celebi of being mafia, we can revisit it, for now we can't rule out overworking BMer.

[M-FM Grovyle]

Loudred and sunflora, his name is wigglytuff, not wigglypuff. Scumtank, why do celeby and chatot have to be on opposing teams in your mind? You say you acknowledge that he might be super BM'd, but still to the idea that they MUST be on different teams.

I suppose this could be setup two, and there is a mason becuase the hidden any or a hidden town were cit; especially because there seems to be more than the godfather remaining. 3 Could still be the case and got the hidden any for maf though. We should find out tonight with the cit recruitings though.

[M-FM Darkrai]

Who cares what his name is. He is scum lynch him already. kkthxbye

[M-FM Skuntank]

Loudred and sunflora, his name is wigglytuff, not wigglypuff. Scumtank, why do celeby and chatot have to be on opposing teams in your mind? You say you acknowledge that he might be super BM'd, but still to the idea that they MUST be on different teams.

I suppose this could be setup two, and there is a mason becuase the hidden any or a hidden town were cit; especially because there seems to be more than the godfather remaining. 3 Could still be the case and got the hidden any for maf though. We should find out tonight with the cit recruitings though.

I personally believe that it is unlikely that both are on the same team. However, assuming that Celebi is town, shooting Chatot is still imo his best bet, as even if Chatot is blackmailed, Celebi is confirmed as vigilante and I had a gut-citizen read on him from day 1.

If you are opposed to shooting Chatot, Celebi, I would recommend a lurker. Someone like Plusle, Marill, Loudred, or Minun.

[M-FM Chatot]

Are all of you stupid? Uxi is still the best lynch today. That confirms me as sheriff and Celebi as scum. Since he's clearly not vigilante so he can't shoot anyone at night to prove himself we we will lynch him tomorrow. Wigglytuff is probably scum but we can deal with him after the CONFIRMED scum Uxie and the SOON-TO-BE-CONFIRMED scum Celebi.

And all of you scumtards who think I'm blackmailed need to shut up and read. This is the way Ive been acting all game. If you people would think, you'd see that Magnezone has been blackmailed

[M-FM Darkrai]

Yeah!

[M-FM Skuntank]

Are all of you stupid?

Yeah!

lol

[M-FM Skuntank]

Are all of you stupid? Uxi is still the best lynch today. That confirms me as sheriff and Celebi as scum. Since he's clearly not vigilante so he can't shoot anyone at night to prove himself we we will lynch him tomorrow. Wigglytuff is probably scum but we can deal with him after the CONFIRMED scum Uxie and the SOON-TO-BE-CONFIRMED scum Celebi.

And all of you scumtards who think I'm blackmailed need to shut up and read. This is the way Ive been acting all game. If you people would think, you'd see that Magnezone has been blackmailed

Where the hell do you get that Magnezone is blackmailed?

[M-FM Darkrai]

-vote M-FM Uxie

^

Care to explain? Why would an overworked blackmailer target vote on Uxie his own teammate?!?!? Hm? Hm hm hm? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM?!.....
























hm?

[Termite]

1. Yes, I said Chatot was a town read. I said I thought you were scum. However, you being town means Chatot is scum. I asked you to prove yourself as vigilante by shooting him, because if you are telling the truth, he is not the sheriff. I agree that there is a possibility that Chatot is blackmailed. However, if we are to assume that every time someone acts scummy that they are super-blackmailed, that's just a frustrating waste of time. In addition, assuming that you are town, the blackmail yesterday could have been him just faking it. If you, and by extension Uxie, are town that makes him probably scum. Not only that, but what if someone other than Chatot is blackmailed today? What if you are blackmailed to support Uxie's claim? What if Wigglytuff is blackmailed to look as scummy as possible? What if I'm blackmailed to... well I don't really know what I'm doing to help mafia today, unless Chatot is scum. What if someone has simply been silenced and hasn't talked?

2. Plausible meaning the only people I would be willing to lynch. If you are not vigilante, you could just claim roleblocked or that you decided not to shoot. Chatot could actually be scum. If you are lying, so is Uxie.

3. Uxie would be more useful than a citizen, IF he's skyper. I'm not sure I believe that. I'm usually majorly suspicious of all claims. Earlier was an anomaly because I'd trusted Chatot. Big mistake.

4. I'm saying that lynching one of you is potentially a good move because it is. While I may have been overlooking the blackmail overlook, you are overlooking the possibility that you could be scum. The entire post you're talking about (please, nobody but answers inside the quote, it's so frustrating) is "Why should we lynch this person? What would happen?" Not "Why shouldn't we lynch this person?"

Chatot claimed to have a scum result on my boy. However, what was Chatot's reaction when I claimed that Uxie was my Skyper? If I was Sheriff, I would think very carefully before preceeding, since someone is vouching that they are 100% certain that your guilty target is innocent. However, instead, Chartot pushes the waggon on even more agressively then before. This action pretty much rules out Uxie being framed in my mind. However, Chartot's move is so suicidal that I am very uncertain that he would be scum. He's calling me certain scum, which would pretty much be asking for a bullet. Therefore, I'm assuming Overwork BM for now. We can question him more on the morrow.

Also read the first post of the day by Chartot. If a Sheriff targets a member of the Dark Guild, the feedback message is "Your target is a member of the Dark Guild". If you saw that message, then the first thing you'd want to do is go online and post "Player X is the member of the Dark Guild", seeing how that's just what you read in the PM. However, Chartot claimed that Uxie was MAFIA, not Dark Guild. I do not find it very likely that someone would have just read "Uxie is part of the Dark Guild", then instantly convert that sentence into "Uxie is mafia".

For Wigglytuff, watch just how scummy his actions have been today. I waited for him to post being attacked last night, which he didn't do. I then pushed my bandwaggon against him, and THEN he claimed being attacked and healed, saying he missed it in his inbox. He's now saying how it was probably a drug dealer, even though there's zero previous evidence of a drug dealer. Why you missing this?

Lastly, if this is going to be a "Who do we gain the most information from by lynching". If we lynch Uxie, its going to show us nothing. It tells us that I've been telling the truth about him being my Skyper. However, I would then proceed to kill Wigglytuff, Chartot would claim overwork-BM (which is probably true) and Wigglytuff is already dead. The suggestion that I'm free-working scum is so ridiculous that I'll ignore it. If he was mafia, you should be very thankful, since you're about to wipe out 2 scum with 1 blow when I fail to reveal myself as Vigilante. Me sacrificing myself as scum is terrible play, and while you may not know whether or not I'm being controlled, just look at how scummy Wigglytuff is.

I'm not even going to entertain the idea of Chartot or myself being lynched. Vigilante is too powerful a role to be lynched, especialy since I'll be able to clear myself tonight, and hopefully today if Wigglytuff gets lynched. Chartot realy is simply too likely to be overwatch BM.

You'll get into a perfect position by lynching Wigglytuff, no matter how it rolls. If he is scum, gj, we got a danger anti-town player. If he's town... well, I'll be able to clear Uxie and myself, but if I was not Vigilante, you'd have my blessing to lynch Uxie.

[M-FM Skuntank]

Are all of you stupid? Uxi is still the best lynch today. That confirms me as sheriff and Celebi as scum. Since he's clearly not vigilante so he can't shoot anyone at night to prove himself we we will lynch him tomorrow. Wigglytuff is probably scum but we can deal with him after the CONFIRMED scum Uxie and the SOON-TO-BE-CONFIRMED scum Celebi.

And all of you scumtards who think I'm blackmailed need to shut up and read. This is the way Ive been acting all game. If you people would think, you'd see that Magnezone has been blackmailed

Yeah!

Chatot claimed to have a scum result on my boy. However, what was Chatot's reaction when I claimed that Uxie was my Skyper? If I was Sheriff, I would think very carefully before preceeding, since someone is vouching that they are 100% certain that your guilty target is innocent. However, instead, Chartot pushes the waggon on even more agressively then before. This action pretty much rules out Uxie being framed in my mind. However, Chartot's move is so suicidal that I am very uncertain that he would be scum. He's calling me certain scum, which would pretty much be asking for a bullet. Therefore, I'm assuming Overwork BM for now. We can question him more on the morrow.

Also read the first post of the day by Chartot. If a Sheriff targets a member of the Dark Guild, the feedback message is "Your target is a member of the Dark Guild". If you saw that message, then the first thing you'd want to do is go online and post "Player X is the member of the Dark Guild", seeing how that's just what you read in the PM. However, Chartot claimed that Uxie was MAFIA, not Dark Guild. I do not find it very likely that someone would have just read "Uxie is part of the Dark Guild", then instantly convert that sentence into "Uxie is mafia".

For Wigglytuff, watch just how scummy his actions have been today. I waited for him to post being attacked last night, which he didn't do. I then pushed my bandwaggon against him, and THEN he claimed being attacked and healed, saying he missed it in his inbox. He's now saying how it was probably a drug dealer, even though there's zero previous evidence of a drug dealer. Why you missing this?

Lastly, if this is going to be a "Who do we gain the most information from by lynching". If we lynch Uxie, its going to show us nothing. It tells us that I've been telling the truth about him being my Skyper. However, I would then proceed to kill Wigglytuff, Chartot would claim overwork-BM (which is probably true) and Wigglytuff is already dead. The suggestion that I'm free-working scum is so ridiculous that I'll ignore it. If he was mafia, you should be very thankful, since you're about to wipe out 2 scum with 1 blow when I fail to reveal myself as Vigilante. Me sacrificing myself as scum is terrible play, and while you may not know whether or not I'm being controlled, just look at how scummy Wigglytuff is.

I'm not even going to entertain the idea of Chartot or myself being lynched. Vigilante is too powerful a role to be lynched, especialy since I'll be able to clear myself tonight, and hopefully today if Wigglytuff gets lynched. Chartot realy is simply too likely to be overwatch BM.

You'll get into a perfect position by lynching Wigglytuff, no matter how it rolls. If he is scum, gj, we got a danger anti-town player. If he's town... well, I'll be able to clear Uxie and myself, but if I was not Vigilante, you'd have my blessing to lynch Uxie.

You're probably right. Wigglytuff is the best lynch for today. Also, you're town. Congratulations.

The only thing wrong with this post is the Dark Guild v. Mafia argument, which is invalid because Dark Guild IS mafia.

Pseudovote on Wigglytuff until I know how far he is from lynching (I don't want to end day early).

[M-FM Skuntank]

The top two quotes weren't supposed to be there...
Damn multiquote tool...

[M-FM Darkrai]

M-FM Celebi vigilante
M-FM Chatot town
M-FM Darkrai town
[COLOR="#FF8C00"]M-FM Dusknoir gf or town
M-FM Grovyle gf or cit prolly gf[/COLOR]
M-FM Lapras mafia
M-FM Loudred mafia
M-FM Magnezone sheriff
M-FM Manaphy citizen
M-FM Marill mafia
M-FM Minun mason
M-FM Plusle mason
M-FM Skuntank town
M-FM Sunflora mafia
M-FM Uxie skyper
M-FM Wigglytuff sk or gf


I order the Masons to recruit Grovyle tonight. Thats all.

[M-FM Plusle]

I personally believe that it is unlikely that both are on the same team. However, assuming that Celebi is town, shooting Chatot is still imo his best bet, as even if Chatot is blackmailed, Celebi is confirmed as vigilante and I had a gut-citizen read on him from day 1.

If you are opposed to shooting Chatot, Celebi, I would recommend a lurker. Someone like Plusle, Marill, Loudred, or Minun.

i find this silly, clearly you're up to no good if you're saying to shoot a mason. I said my role because i had been lurky and i dont want a shot wasted on me and i want another mason so we can use overwork.

[M-FM Darkrai]

If oyu are town vote Wigglytuff!

[M-FM Darkrai]

Yes OYU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

[M-FM Minun]

If oyu are town vote Wigglytuff!

roger

-vote M-FM Wigglytuff

[M-FM Plusle]

-vote M-FM Wigglytuff

[M-FM Darkrai]

M-FM Celebi vigilante
M-FM Chatot town
M-FM Darkrai town
M-FM Dusknoir town or neutral
M-FM Grovyle gf or cit prolly gf
M-FM Lapras mafia
M-FM Loudred mafia
M-FM Magnezone sheriff
M-FM Manaphy citizen
M-FM Marill mafia
M-FM Minun mason
M-FM Plusle mason
M-FM Skuntank town
M-FM Sunflora town or neutral
M-FM Uxie skyper
M-FM Wigglytuff sk or gf

there we go. Didn't realize the 5 Mafia team setup has 3 neutrals. No idea about the random any. It's probably an additional mafia.

[M-FM Darkrai]

and there is a good chance that we have no serial killer but a killer agent. Which could be Manaphy. I totaly forgot about that role

[M-FM Loudred]

Wtf why is it tuff I thought the pokemon was called wigglypuff

-vote M-FM Wigglytuff

And why do you consider me to be mafia

[M-FM Wigglytuff]

I WILL SURVIVE!!1!7

[M-FM Darkrai]

because i have almost nothing to consider from you.

[M-FM Loudred]

because i have almost nothing to consider from you.

Huh?

[M-FM Darkrai]

u no posting mucho. me have need of input to consider shit. Also Wigglysuck should claim his shitty role by nao

[Termite]

If I added right, Wiggly has been hammered. Keep voting just in case.

Seeing how we have at least 3 neutrals, this is probably setup #2. This most likely means that there is a traitor.

[Termite]

Wigglytuff(9) - HAMMERED - [Celebi, Darkrai, Grovyle, Magnezone, Uxie, Loudred, Sunflora, Minum, Plusle]
Uxie(3) - L-6 - [Chatot, Wiglytuff, Lapris]
No Vote(4) - [Dusknoir, Manaphy, Maril, Skunktank]

[M-FM Wigglytuff]

Lol I'm jester

[M-FM Skuntank]

Wigglytuff(9) - HAMMERED - [Celebi, Darkrai, Grovyle, Magnezone, Uxie, Loudred, Sunflora, Minum, Plusle]
Uxie(3) - L-6 - [Chatot, Wiglytuff, Lapris]
No Vote(4) - [Dusknoir, Manaphy, Maril, Skunktank]

Dear lord. Has Marill even posted today? I wonder if he's blackmailed and doesn't know he can say his name. If not, how the hell has he not been replaced?

[M-FM Skuntank]

Wigglytuff(9) - HAMMERED - [Celebi, Darkrai, Grovyle, Magnezone, Uxie, Loudred, Sunflora, Minum, Plusle]
Uxie(3) - L-6 - [Chatot, Wiglytuff, Lapris]
No Vote(4) - [Dusknoir, Manaphy, Maril, Skunktank]

Skuntank, not SkunKtank.

[M-FM Darkrai]

Lol I'm jester

Me too!

[M-FM Wigglytuff]

You guys get to find out if I used my overwork later. ^_^

[M-FM Darkrai]

You can overwork on the graveyard!

[M-FM Dusknoir]

It's been a rather busy day for me, and I was unable to post much.
Apologies for this rather inactive day on my side.

@Darkrai:
I'm curious, what's your read on me? I see you've been listing me as a possible neutral/GF.
Care to elaborate?

[M-FM Darkrai]

i am not paying much attention to the game.

[M-FM Grovyle]

Yes, please recruit me tonight.
Can jester suicide be healed?

[M-FM Marill]

Sorry guys I was out of town, seems like you did a good enough job without me getting this scummy guy.