M-FM Fringe: Prime Universe

[Forum Mafia GM]

Welcome to the Rest of D1!

Living Players:
1. M-FM Town
2. M-FM Badass
3. M-FM Moogle
4. deathworlds
5. Unknown1234
6. M-FM Wildcard
7. M-FM On Time Firebringer
8. Sino
9. Quick

[Forum Mafia GM]

Let the day resume!

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[Sino]

Really, no one said anything after the split ?

Regarding Unknown and Wildcard's earlier interaction, it looked like a TvT to me, i think scum would try to avoid getting into such an argument early.

We might have a serious inactivity problem that could prevent us from being able to lynch in this universe (On Time and Quick)

[M-FM Wildcard]

Really, no one said anything after the split ?

Regarding Unknown and Wildcard's earlier interaction, it looked like a TvT to me, i think scum would try to avoid getting into such an argument early.

We might have a serious inactivity problem that could prevent us from being able to lynch in this universe (On Time and Quick)

I agree that Unknown is town. Obviously, I am going to say I am Town too (as little as it means), but I'm glad you say it as TvT. I honestly don't think Unknown would've engaged in that form on confrontation with me if he was Scum.

I also agree that inactivity could be a problem. Badass and Town have just 1 post each, and I almost feel like a scum wouldn't have just posted once as it would bring attention to them. 0 posts for Quick and On Time make it impossible to read, which equals a risky lynch. I think a good middle ground person would be our best bet.

@deathworlds
@M-FM Moogle

Can you come give some detail reads on players in our universe, please.

[M-FM Moogle]

I agree that Unknown is town. Obviously, I am going to say I am Town too (as little as it means), but I'm glad you say it as TvT. I honestly don't think Unknown would've engaged in that form on confrontation with me if he was Scum.

I also agree that inactivity could be a problem. Badass and Town have just 1 post each, and I almost feel like a scum wouldn't have just posted once as it would bring attention to them. 0 posts for Quick and On Time make it impossible to read, which equals a risky lynch. I think a good middle ground person would be our best bet.

@deathworlds
@M-FM Moogle

Can you come give some detail reads on players in our universe, please.

Sure, but why only ask us to do that? Are you currently scumreading us based on the number of posts in this game so far or are you looking at our posts themselves to figure it out?

My thoughts are I'm leaning town on unknown and sino based on this universe and the other one. I'm kind of a sucker for active posters and tend to townread that but they seem to be very actively questioning people and trying to get reads. I'm unsure on you because of your appeasing attitude towards Sino calling your interaction with Unknown TvT and I'd think as town, you'd question that a bit more to try to read Sino better. What is your read on him anyway? Other than that, I don't see too much concerning in the rest of your posting. I like that you are active.

I didn't like deathworlds making excuses not to post, that always raises red flags for me if someone does that and then doesn't post much of anything else. However the rest of his posting is pretty much null. I need to see more.

Quick is someone that would be worth metaing here and on mafiascum. It is my understanding he is pretty active as town and the fact that he hasn't posted here yet is a big red flag for me. I'll give him a chance to get in here but he would be someone I'd vote if he doesn't do much.

The others I have no idea and have made no impression on me whatsoever. They need to post a lot more. I'm fine with lynching in the group of lurkers because I would think it would be a good strategy for scum to try to lurk out the game if they can get away with it.

[M-FM Wildcard]

Sure, but why only ask us to do that? Are you currently scumreading us based on the number of posts in this game so far or are you looking at our posts themselves to figure it out?

My thoughts are I'm leaning town on unknown and sino based on this universe and the other one. I'm kind of a sucker for active posters and tend to townread that but they seem to be very actively questioning people and trying to get reads. I'm unsure on you because of your appeasing attitude towards Sino calling your interaction with Unknown TvT and I'd think as town, you'd question that a bit more to try to read Sino better. What is your read on him anyway? Other than that, I don't see too much concerning in the rest of your posting. I like that you are active.

I didn't like deathworlds making excuses not to post, that always raises red flags for me if someone does that and then doesn't post much of anything else. However the rest of his posting is pretty much null. I need to see more.

Quick is someone that would be worth metaing here and on mafiascum. It is my understanding he is pretty active as town and the fact that he hasn't posted here yet is a big red flag for me. I'll give him a chance to get in here but he would be someone I'd vote if he doesn't do much.

The others I have no idea and have made no impression on me whatsoever. They need to post a lot more. I'm fine with lynching in the group of lurkers because I would think it would be a good strategy for scum to try to lurk out the game if they can get away with it.

I ask you two specifically because you a mid-lying players. ie, you post enough to have a presence in the game, but not enough to stand our for anything exceptional. It's the place that most scum try to lie in to make it to late game.

You're right to be unsure about Sino and me, as I will admit that I am definitely not sure with him. However, he posts enough that I am hoping that I can get accurate reads without pushing directly on him. I feel that there are more important players to push currently, like you and deathworlds (hence the question towards you two). I will agree that I am kind of suspicious of Sino. I find that he does post a lot, but I haven't seen a high level of scum hunting, nor anything else that stands out as pro-town discusion. A lot of complaints, ect, which are easy to do while scum.

In regards to Quick, the last time the site says he was online was Oct 30, so he might not have seen the game actually started yet. Not actively lurking, and actually AFK. We will see if he comes on soon and participates. On the Contrary, M-FM On Time says they logged in on Oct 31 once the game had already started, and they hadn't made a single post. That stands out to me over the Quick situation, which is why I think if we do decide to push a lurker, it would be On Time over Quick.
Although, please do note that this does not make Quick town in any sense. Only as you said, completely null.

[Sino]

I ask you two specifically because you a mid-lying players. ie, you post enough to have a presence in the game, but not enough to stand our for anything exceptional. It's the place that most scum try to lie in to make it to late game.

You're right to be unsure about Sino and me, as I will admit that I am definitely not sure with him. However, he posts enough that I am hoping that I can get accurate reads without pushing directly on him. I feel that there are more important players to push currently, like you and deathworlds (hence the question towards you two). I will agree that I am kind of suspicious of Sino. I find that he does post a lot, but I haven't seen a high level of scum hunting, nor anything else that stands out as pro-town discusion. A lot of complaints, ect, which are easy to do while scum.

In regards to Quick, the last time the site says he was online was Oct 30, so he might not have seen the game actually started yet. Not actively lurking, and actually AFK. We will see if he comes on soon and participates. On the Contrary, M-FM On Time says they logged in on Oct 31 once the game had already started, and they hadn't made a single post. That stands out to me over the Quick situation, which is why I think if we do decide to push a lurker, it would be On Time over Quick.
Although, please do note that this does not make Quick town in any sense. Only as you said, completely null.

If we had to lynch someone right now, i'd probably pick Town, he posted once in the game before the split, just after my post about afk players, and then he vanished again, as if he just wanted to say "don't worry, i'm here".

[Unknown1234]

Whoops, almost couldn't find this. Hi Sino.

[Sino]

Hi Unknown, told you it's unlikely for a set of 4 specific players to end up in the same universe.

[M-FM Wildcard]

sup bbs

[M-FM Wildcard]

So, we're assuming 2-3 non-town per universe.
Now that it's narrowed down a bit, should be easy to go back to day 0 and check people out.

[M-FM Wildcard]

Unknown1234
Posts 31

Sino
Posts 26

M-FM Wildcard
Posts 25

deathworlds
Posts 11

M-FM Moogle
Posts 5

M-FM Badass
Posts 1

M-FM Town
Posts 1

M-FM On Time
Posts 0

Quick
Posts 0



Looks like we have the majority of lurkers.

[Sino]

Unknown1234
Posts 31

Sino
Posts 26

M-FM Wildcard
Posts 25

deathworlds
Posts 11

M-FM Moogle
Posts 5

M-FM Badass
Posts 1

M-FM Town
Posts 1

M-FM On Time
Posts 0

Quick
Posts 0



Looks like we have the majority of lurkers.

Great, we can only really check one third of the game out
@OrpZed How long will you wait until starting to replace afk players ?

[Forum Mafia GM]

Great, we can only really check one third of the game out
@OrpZed How long will you wait until starting to replace afk players ?

Replacements are done on a case-by-case basis, but players who have made 0 posts will likely be replaced before D1 ends.

[Sino]

Replacements are done on a case-by-case basis, but players who have made 0 posts will likely be replaced before D1 ends.

Ok, i'm down for a Town, Badass, or deathworlds lynch.

[M-FM Badass]

So you guys want to lynch players that don't make big / constant posts. Seems understandable, but activity is not AI in some cases.

[Firebringer]

Ok, i'm down for a Town, Badass, or deathworlds lynch.

This is shit, but probably town.

[Unknown1234]

Unfortunate to say, but the majority of evils will likely be lurkers. Might be a good place to start... if they show up.

Otherwise, we can wait if we don't get a good lynch and (maybe) hope the other Universe is doing better than us. Stuff to think about.

[M-FM Wildcard]

Unfortunate to say, but the majority of evils will likely be lurkers. Might be a good place to start... if they show up.

Otherwise, we can wait if we don't get a good lynch and (maybe) hope the other Universe is doing better than us. Stuff to think about.

If we can't decide on a scummy person today, would you agree to piling our votes onto a lurker and see if they get lynched? Lurkers can easily hinder the vote, which can definitely screw us over the entire game.

Or, should we just keep votes low if we're unsure, and hope the other Universe has better ideas?

[Sino]

If we can't decide on a scummy person today, would you agree to piling our votes onto a lurker and see if they get lynched? Lurkers can easily hinder the vote, which can definitely screw us over the entire game.

Or, should we just keep votes low if we're unsure, and hope the other Universe has better ideas?

I dislike the idea to just rely on the other universe, we shouldn't hang around waiting for the others to do the job we're supposed to be doing, lynching the lurkers seems like the better option to me.

[M-FM Wildcard]

I dislike the idea to just rely on the other universe, we shouldn't hang around waiting for the others to do the job we're supposed to be doing, lynching the lurkers seems like the better option to me.

I also dislike that and would prefer to lynch from the bottom 5. Maybe 6 is deathworlds comes back and replies. Idk if a headache if a good reason to skip out; I have horrible cold atm, pounding headache, chills, fever, and i'm going on every now and then to keep up.

[M-FM Wildcard]

I also dislike that and would prefer to lynch from the bottom 5. Maybe 6 is deathworlds comes back and replies. Idk if a headache if a good reason to skip out; I have horrible cold atm, pounding headache, chills, fever, and i'm going on every now and then to keep up.

Obviously, if one of the top 3-4 starts acting scumming, i'm not forcing myself to vote for the bottom. I'm just saying if nothing better arises.

[Sino]

I also dislike that and would prefer to lynch from the bottom 5. Maybe 6 is deathworlds comes back and replies. Idk if a headache if a good reason to skip out; I have horrible cold atm, pounding headache, chills, fever, and i'm going on every now and then to keep up.

I admit it would be PLing, but if they don't come back or get replaced, we might never be able to lynch anyone.

[Firebringer]

Unfortunate to say, but the majority of evils will likely be lurkers. Might be a good place to start... if they show up.

Otherwise, we can wait if we don't get a good lynch and (maybe) hope the other Universe is doing better than us. Stuff to think about.

Scum.

[Unknown1234]

Scum.

Lol, I played that game as scum when my teammates were lurkers. And you hosted.

[Firebringer]

Catch up here, Fire. These people are going to be the ones you focus on for most of the time.

I am doing that now. Page 3

Lol, I played that game as scum when my teammates were lurkers. And you hosted.

Yeah, and they are easy targets to push a lynch on.

[Unknown1234]

I am doing that now. Page 3


Yeah, and they are easy targets to push a lynch on.

That is incredibly objective. You can't just say one part without considering alternative motives. The fact that inactive accounts don't do anything is certainly worth consideration. Not to mention my past experience, so I have a fair idea of what I'm considering.

[M-FM Badass]

We don't have to worry with Kirigiri there. Unless she's scum, of course.

[Sino]

We don't have to worry with Kirigiri there. Unless she's scum, of course.

What's the point of this post ?

[M-FM Badass]

What's the point of this post ?

Apparently I deleted half of it.

[Unknown1234]

Apparently I deleted half of it.

I like how you claim you deleted half of it, but then you don't add that half again.

[M-FM Wildcard]

Having such bad connectivity issues last 2 days =[

[Sino]

Apparently I deleted half of it.

So what did you mean ?

Having such bad connectivity issues last 2 days =[

The site has been instable lately.

[M-FM Moogle]

Also, for some reason I can only get into this game on my phone. Anyone else having this issue?

[Unknown1234]

Also, for some reason I can only get into this game on my phone. Anyone else having this issue?

I don't know, I'm a phone poster most of the time so don't know.

[M-FM Wildcard]

Badass seems like a decent target, although I can't really tell if scum would act that way. Very nonchalant attitude towards the game, which makes it hard to read between scum and Citizen.

I've be down currently to lynch anybody except Unknown and Moogle. I get town vibes from both.

[Sino]

@Unknown1234 @M-FM Moogle Who would you be willing to lynch ?

[M-FM Wildcard]

I don't really care about big posts. TBH, I dislike them. I would rather just have you stick around and occasionally have conversations regarding the game.

[Sino]

I feel exactly the same way as Wildcard about this, our biggest enemy is inactivity, so Badass, what did you mean earlier here :

Apparently I deleted half of it.

And what do you think about the Unknwown/Wildcard interaction before the split ?

[M-FM Badass]

I feel exactly the same way as Wildcard about this, our biggest enemy is inactivity, so Badass, what did you mean earlier here :



And what do you think about the Unknwown/Wildcard interaction before the split ?

I don't remember, it was a weird explanation about you and unknown were compensated by Kirigiri being on the other side or something like that. I just wanted to say something.

Honestly, I had to read 10 pages and that conv was just too tedious and just read through it.

[M-FM Wildcard]

I don't remember, it was a weird explanation about you and unknown were compensated by Kirigiri being on the other side or something like that. I just wanted to say something.

Honestly, I had to read 10 pages and that conv was just too tedious and just read through it.

What do you feel about the players in our universe. Kiri is no longer that relevant to us at this point in time.

[M-FM Badass]

What do you feel about the players in our universe. Kiri is no longer that relevant to us at this point in time.

Yeah, I feel strange like... is this like 2 separate games or so? Give me a moment to check the setup once more, please.

[M-FM Wildcard]

Yeah, I feel strange like... is this like 2 separate games or so? Give me a moment to check the setup once more, please.

I can give you a quick explanation.
It is 1 setup split between 2 smaller games. There are roles that can jump between Universes (games) and roles that and move players between them.
Out of both the games, whoever has the most votes gets lynched. Therefore, if we have 4 votes on a player, and the other game has 5 votes on a player, our lynch does not occur. Only 1 lynch can happen per day between both games.

[Firebringer]

Yeah, I feel strange like... is this like 2 separate games or so? Give me a moment to check the setup once more, please.

Town

[Sino]

I don't remember, it was a weird explanation about you and unknown were compensated by Kirigiri being on the other side or something like that. I just wanted to say something.

Honestly, I had to read 10 pages and that conv was just too tedious and just read through it.

That's definetely something you should read now that they're both in here.

[M-FM Wildcard]

That's definetely something you should read now that they're both in here.

Who is your prime lynch target today and why?

[Sino]

Who is your prime lynch target today and why?

I guess for now it would be town, just for gis talk about "hard claiming town" when everything he said was "hi, i'm town" am I the only one who doesn't see any claim in that post ? I don't get how you can see this as a hard claim, maybe a soft one, at best.

I also would have no problem lynching badass, he still didn't tell us anything about his thoughts on what's going on.

What about yours ?

[Unknown1234]

I don't remember, it was a weird explanation about you and unknown were compensated by Kirigiri being on the other side or something like that. I just wanted to say something.

Honestly, I had to read 10 pages and that conv was just too tedious and just read through it.

why didn't you explain this when you were asked the first time? Why didn't you explain it when you realized half of it was deleted?

[M-FM Moogle]

I don't remember, it was a weird explanation about you and unknown were compensated by Kirigiri being on the other side or something like that. I just wanted to say something.

Honestly, I had to read 10 pages and that conv was just too tedious and just read through it.

How much experience do you have playing mafia? I'm trying to decide if you are a scummy newb or an awkward scum.

[M-FM Town]

Welcome to the Rest of D1!

Living Players:
1. M-FM Town
2. M-FM Badass
3. M-FM Moogle
4. deathworlds
5. Unknown1234
6. M-FM Wildcard
7. M-FM On Time
8. Sino
9. Quick

Hi. I'm still Town.

In a game where multiple non-scum factions exist, feel like this is the correct play to force scum out.