Day 6

[Forum Mafia GM]

Day 6

Well, the massacre continued, dammit.

This had gone on pretty long, anyway. Well, it’s a good thing, I suppose.

Lets me move on with my day, and finally get some damn work done.

Well, let’s see. Let’s count the dead up...

FM Hogeboom... the Bus Driver... lying on the floor, the cold, dead stare of a familiar last breath, not with regret, not with sorrow, but void of happiness, on the account of the wonderful soma that was making my job easier.

But...

Oh, what the hell, that’s just disgusting.

Mangled. In pieces. Torn apart. Whatever you want to call it... FM Monroe was not in full pieces. Terrible way for an Escort to go down. There may have been a look of pain, but he was fine.

Dead at the ripe age of 60 without a regret.

Cheers to the beauty of life and death.


-Aldous Ford
May 29, 2013 A.F.

Take this as my last will.

I was blocking Dunn as the plan had stated. If i wasn't witched on somebody else.

So if i am dead by now this means that Dunn is clearly mafia and they saw me as a thread because i can block their night kills.
This makes Dunn the Kidnapper or another mafia who claimed the night actions from the real one. Kidnapper seems to be their strongest role in this game.
It would make sense to have a lesser powerful role claim the night actions. Anyways FM Hugeboom might be Kidnapper as well. He doesn't post much he lurks the whole game.
Lurking is the most easiest way for scum to play the game. Nobody usually calls them out or even checks them. So no one knows what role and alignment they have. It's true
i blocked him N4 don't let anyone else argue against it. It's the full truth.
I suspect the rest of the mafia hiding with the lurkers. I don't know what i should think of Monroe he is really active at day but he has so many logic holes. Almost 2 in every post he does
which makes me believe he is a day blending scum. I think Cafarelli is some crystal meth addicted Savage. I would leave him to the masons.

Plan for Today: Lynch FM Dunn if i am dead, pressure whoever you like. I am dead right? Idgaf anymore!

FM Hogeboom was killed. His role was Bus Driver
FM Monroe was killed. His role was Escort

Graveyard:
FM Gage (Architect) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM McKelty (Delta) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Bishop (Detective) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM Becket (Corrupt Journalist) - Overdosed on laced Soma.
FM Cohen (Arsonist) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Colmyer (Delta) - Committed suicide.
FM Morgan (Savage) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Biggs (Delta) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Ballard (Savage Investigator) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Bekowsky (Delta) - Overdosed on laced soma.
FM Buchwalter (Drug Dealer) - Lynched by an angry mob.
FM Hogeboom (Bus Driver) - Overdosed on lased soma.
FM Monroe (Escort)- Eaten alive viciously.

Role List:
Godfather
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
[Soma Dealer]
Savage Godfather
[Evil Neutral]
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden Epsilon]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Alpha]
[Hidden Beta]
[Hidden Beta]
[Hidden Gamma]
[Hidden Gamma]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
[Hidden A/B/G/D]
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
Delta
[Random Any]

Not Crossed Off:
FM Morgan (Savage)
FM Ballard (Savage Investigator)

Anonymous Accounts:
FM Ackerman
FM Ballard
FM Becket
FM Bekowsky
FM Biggs
FM Bishop
FM Black
FM Buchwalter
FM Cafarelli
FM Carruthers
FM Chapman
FM Cohen
FM Colmyer
FM Donnelly
FM Dunn
FM Earle
FM Fontaine
FM Gage
FM Galletta
FM Galloway
FM Green
FM Hogeboom
FM Hopgood
FM Kalou
FM Kelso
FM Leary
FM Lichtmann
FM Mason
FM McKelty
FM Mendez
FM Monroe
FM Morgan
FM Parker
FM Phelps
FM Rose
FM Ryan

12 votes to hammer.
FM Parker is the mayor with 4 votes.

Night 7 begins at: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...May+31%2C+2013

[FM Parker]

Aww shit. The savages are killing. With so many deltas to convert you'd think they would do that.

That being said, Hogeboom, care to give us leads or die?

Also, we still have an escort... for whatever that is worth.

The plan should be to lynch Dunn today and scumhunt for the others. There's only a handful of people who can counterclaim Cafarelli anyway, but he has his uses.

[FM Parker]

Err that's Hopgood, give us leads or die.

[FM Galloway]

Issue at hand: 2 Bus Drivers/2 Escorts vs Kidnapper + Consort.


Which is more likely?

I am thinking that it is Bus Driver/Kidnapper and Escort/Escort
This is mostly because of the fact that we are against some pretty heavy odds from the get go with The Savages and Mafia and the fact that there is more than likely a witch and the drop of arson a few days ago. town would need to be able to neutralize potential kills with the dual escort and two bus drivers just makes for a chaotic game so its unlikely there to be two of them, bus drivers, in the mix.

Parker, your take?


PS I used the soma, targets undisclosed because of certain variables. Just saying it now the only person who is gonna get me to claim is Parker since he is beyond doubt with being a mayor.

[FM Galloway]

Issue at hand: 2 Bus Drivers/2 Escorts vs Kidnapper + Consort.


Which is more likely?

I am thinking that it is Bus Driver/Kidnapper and Escort/Escort
This is mostly because of the fact that we are against some pretty heavy odds from the get go with The Savages and Mafia and the fact that there is more than likely a witch and the drop of arson a few days ago. town would need to be able to neutralize potential kills with the dual escort and two bus drivers just makes for a chaotic game so its unlikely there to be two of them, bus drivers, in the mix.

Parker, your take?


PS I used the soma, targets undisclosed because of certain variables. Just saying it now the only person who is gonna get me to claim is Parker since he is beyond doubt with being a mayor.

Reading it and it is some heavy buddying.
I shallnt needlessly explain however, the reason is obvious.

side matter is im thinkin about it and the [bleep] is that we have two suspects to think about today. Im goin to go read on them to find some slips and [bleep]

[FM Donnelly]

Night 6

Hey guys I found the night chat. Turns out we're all scum.

Oh, and nothing happened to me last night.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Hey guys I found the night chat. Turns out we're all scum.

Oh, and nothing happened to me last night.

-FMGM uses Brain wash
you didn't see anything

[FM Kalou]

That was not a good night...

[FM Parker]

Issue at hand: 2 Bus Drivers/2 Escorts vs Kidnapper + Consort.


Which is more likely?

I am thinking that it is Bus Driver/Kidnapper and Escort/Escort
This is mostly because of the fact that we are against some pretty heavy odds from the get go with The Savages and Mafia and the fact that there is more than likely a witch and the drop of arson a few days ago. town would need to be able to neutralize potential kills with the dual escort and two bus drivers just makes for a chaotic game so its unlikely there to be two of them, bus drivers, in the mix.

Parker, your take?


PS I used the soma, targets undisclosed because of certain variables. Just saying it now the only person who is gonna get me to claim is Parker since he is beyond doubt with being a mayor.

Galloway, I don't want you claiming right now. It does nothing. If I pass you the soma, I will have a code for you to claim that will only be distinguishable to me.

I have a large series of notes, which I am not sharing. I sent that to the host as part of my last will. I literally spent hours looking at Buchwalter's posts, refining them in others so I think I have a good idea at who the mafia are. I just have to play my cards right to get the last few.

The scenario is

Blackmailer
Kidnapper - Dunn
Consort - Phelps
Drug Dealer - Buchwalter
Probable Consigliere... (Who do you think?) Otherwise Consort again

Regardless, I expect a lot of investigations to turn up with the Escort/Consort/Witch category.

P.S. I do owe the witch a debt of gratitude. I should have died night 5. That's the only logical explanation.

I know when most of the prior savages were made. So that's helped me deduce a fair amount.

@Donnelly, LOL

So, we're going for the big trifecta. We're looking for the last two mafia scums... Consigliere/Consort and the Blackmailer. You got an opinion? We're also looking for savages too? Any noticeable change in behavior?

[FM Kalou]

Really not defending maf here but, why would maf kill the bd, and not try to cause a mislynch?

[FM Parker]

The witch is controlling the Godfather. There was no witched claim. I was bussed with a major lurker (Fontaine), yet I was not killed. Killing me prevents highlighting Buchwalter as the person who received soma when they had it without rereading. I should have died. That was the witch.

The other alternative to the witch controlling the Mafia Godfather is they figured Dunn was a lost cause. Unlikely given my idiot gene is turned on for this game.

[FM Kalou]

Sp what do u thonk about earle, parker?

[FM Parker]

Umm Earle is the journalist. Kalou... let's try at scum hunting again. My idiot gene is on but not my total moron gene.

[FM Donnelly]

Umm Earle is the journalist. Kalou... let's try at scum hunting again. My idiot gene is on but not my total moron gene.

You say that, but... I couldn't help but notice that no article was published today. Unless that was a host error, Earle has some explaining to do.

[FM Parker]

You say that, but... I couldn't help but notice that no article was published today. Unless that was a host error, Earle has some explaining to do.

And we have two town corpses. Earle could have written to me, but there is a journalist in the game and only 2 or 3 people can counterclaim the journalist now.

Speaking of which, do you claim investigator Donnelly?

[Forum Mafia GM]

NOTE: the interview has been added.. This is host error.

[FM Galloway]

Wasn't even an issue
scum = suicide to claim journalist without being a journy

[FM Parker]

Oh that makes sense now. See I figured Earle was ok. However, on the topic of Earle, he might be a savage journalist, but he's much more helpful alive, provided he keeps interviewing. The journal article confirms we have a second undercover escort which is nice. That undercover should NOT claim.

That's the thing about the savages, they'll be a smaller group and they are beneficial to catching mafia. So I have little interest in killing those who come forward with leads.

[FM Donnelly]

And we have two town corpses. Earle could have written to me, but there is a journalist in the game and only 2 or 3 people can counterclaim the journalist now.

Speaking of which, do you claim investigator Donnelly?

The host has posted the article, so I guess he's definitely some kind of journalist. He could still be corrupt or savage, though.

And no, I do not claim investigator.

[FM Donnelly]

Oh that makes sense now. See I figured Earle was ok. However, on the topic of Earle, he might be a savage journalist, but he's much more helpful alive, provided he keeps interviewing. The journal article confirms we have a second undercover escort which is nice. That undercover should NOT claim.

That's the thing about the savages, they'll be a smaller group and they are beneficial to catching mafia. So I have little interest in killing those who come forward with leads.

They only have one less person than the mafia right now, assuming they started killing because they could no longer recruit.

I wouldn't be so quick to count on them to help us kill the mafia. They did just kill our claimed escort...

[FM Parker]

They only have one less person than the mafia right now, assuming they started killing because they could no longer recruit.

I wouldn't be so quick to count on them to help us kill the mafia. They did just kill our claimed escort...

I never said they were good guys. Yet, if they're detected and fail to give us leads... we kill them with the clubber/other killing role (who I am assuming via setup meta exists). They are not at full capacity. I don't know why they tried to kill though. Perhaps they thought tonight would be the easiest? They had to spend one night trying to convert me. That's the only reason I can see Ballard and Hopgood randomly FoSing me.

I could use some leads here man if you got any? Any suspicions? I'm not getting much information from you from the prior days on who you think is scum. You've kinda sat on the sidelines. We won't have the bodies for that pretty soon.

[FM Parker]

Donnelly, you should answer soon. Killing you confirms which side the final, name withheld blocker is on.

[FM Donnelly]

I never said they were good guys. Yet, if they're detected and fail to give us leads... we kill them with the clubber/other killing role (who I am assuming via setup meta exists). They are not at full capacity. I don't know why they tried to kill though. Perhaps they thought tonight would be the easiest? They had to spend one night trying to convert me. That's the only reason I can see Ballard and Hopgood randomly FoSing me.

I could use some leads here man if you got any? Any suspicions? I'm not getting much information from you from the prior days on who you think is scum. You've kinda sat on the sidelines. We won't have the bodies for that pretty soon.

I have been suspicious of people. You may recall that on day 2 I was pretty suspicious of Monroe, which led to a lot of pressure on him that ended with him fake claiming mayor. Of course, I was wrong about that... But you can't always be right... Right?

I am still wary of Cafarelli as a potential savage investigator. The only person he's given us so far is an arsonist that wasn't even killing. He has yet to give us any mafia or savages which makes him a possible savage investigator or consigliere. If he gives us a mafia or a savage then maybe we can trust him.

Other than that, I'm pretty sure Dunn is the kidnapper. Two escorts is one thing, but two bus drivers... That would be insane! Although there was an sfm recently called "bus drivers"... So maybe it's not that crazy... Still, I'm 99.9% sure Dunn is the kidnapper.

Phelps is also probably consort, especially considering that Earle managed to interview our other escort.

My best guess for the consigliere is Cafarelli, but if he's savage or town, it could be anyone. Maybe one of the lurkers, like Rose.

[FM Donnelly]

Donnelly, you should answer soon. Killing you confirms which side the final, name withheld blocker is on.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're suggesting here.

[FM Parker]

I have been suspicious of people. You may recall that on day 2 I was pretty suspicious of Monroe, which led to a lot of pressure on him that ended with him fake claiming mayor. Of course, I was wrong about that... But you can't always be right... Right?

I am still wary of Cafarelli as a potential savage investigator. The only person he's given us so far is an arsonist that wasn't even killing. He has yet to give us any mafia or savages which makes him a possible savage investigator or consigliere. If he gives us a mafia or a savage then maybe we can trust him.

Other than that, I'm pretty sure Dunn is the kidnapper. Two escorts is one thing, but two bus drivers... That would be insane! Although there was an sfm recently called "bus drivers"... So maybe it's not that crazy... Still, I'm 99.9% sure Dunn is the kidnapper.

Phelps is also probably consort, especially considering that Earle managed to interview our other escort.

My best guess for the consigliere is Cafarelli, but if he's savage or town, it could be anyone. Maybe one of the lurkers, like Rose.

Dunn is the kidnapper. Phelps is the consort.

What's your taken on Mendez, Lichtmann, and Black?

As for the other statement, I can leave a few tricks in my bag then.

[FM Parker]

Galloway, Kalou, are y'all still here or did I scare you away?

[FM Galloway]

Galloway, Kalou, are y'all still here or did I scare you away?

Reading past days trying to find connections between Dunn and other players. So far there was only the slight connections between him and Buch that got overlooked it seems. something about unwarranted approval on some [bleep] fosin

[FM Black]

PR hits are hard to take. Parker, before we start voting, lets wait and see our gathered info. Is Dunn going to be our main target ATM?

[FM Parker]

Dunn will be yes. Obviously if I was crazy about voting, I'd have voted already. I'll vote at midday so signify the start of voting on Dunn. Then I'll immediately unvote. Then, I plan on hammering.

What are your takes on Mendez, Lichtmann and Learly?

[FM Kalou]

Galloway, Kalou, are y'all still here or did I scare you away?

The roles list meta is stupid. And my questions ares t being answered, so thats why i shut up. Id rather not lurk, as thats no fun

Why would an 'escort' reveal to a possiblecorruot journalist?

Is the witch the reason why earle is some sort of journalist?

[FM Parker]

I must have missed your questions Kalou. My apologies. Always highlight if I mess up like that.

1) The journalist picked Phelps. It's obvious from his article claiming that he blocked Hogeboom n4. I'm not surprised with Earle's choice. Frankly, the town doesn't need to worry about what faction the journalist plays for right now.

2) Earle claimed yesterday.

Ok my turn for questions

1) What do you think of Mendez, Lichtmann, Leary and Black? Anyone stand out?

[FM Kalou]

Dunn will be yes. Obviously if I was crazy about voting, I'd have voted already. I'll vote at midday so signify the start of voting on Dunn. Then I'll immediately unvote. Then, I plan on hammering.

What are your takes on Mendez, Lichtmann and Learly?

Mendez thought ryan was evil, as do i.

I also still have my ackerman fos(i think it was ackerman, i dont have ny notes)

[FM Parker]

Ackerman has his suspicious behavior but both the bus driver and the kidnapper said he was town. So he's rather far down the list right now. It could change but I don't see us pushing a Ackerman lynch within the next couple days.

Basically, I'm hunting for the Godfather and the investigator. Once we have that, we can lynch Cafarelli.

I've got to go to bed soon, but the most pro town thing people can do is ask for opinions on those four names (Mendez, Lichtmann, Leary and Black) and see how it goes. The information will prove vital to me.

[FM Ryan]

I believe that there are 2 Bus Drivers and that Phelps could be the consort. If Dunn is the kidnapper, then he could have killed Parker long ago. I already told you that revealing town PR was a BAD idea. Monroe and Hogeboom revealed thenselves and died as a result. NO other PR should even reveal thenselves to town. Especially doctor. With Parker alive, we can still hold the majority for two more days.

The interview show up that Earle indeed could be the journalist. However, on one interview showed up, as opposed to 2. Didn't you said that you had a soma, Earle? And why Hogeboom would give soma to someone like you?

I'm waiting for Phelps now. Who was roleblocked by him? Was Phelps the one interviewed by Journalist?

[FM Parker]

@Ryan, Earle's soma was drugged. Hogeboom never had soma. This analysis needs work. Phelps was interviewed by the journalist and claimed to have blocked Dunn. You can tell because the interviewed subject claims to have blocked Hogeboom night 4. That was Phelps's claim.

Can you give your reads on Mendez, Lichtmann, Leary and Black please?

Even if someone feels like they are rehashing, I'd like some discussion on those four. I can't really place them and they are all (for the most part) reasonably active.

[FM Parker]

Ok I'm out for awhile. Good luck scum hunting! We'll get those scums...

[FM Ryan]

Earle was drugged? Then who "bussed" me on Night 4?

Can you give your reads on Mendez, Lichtmann, Leary and Black please?

Unfortunately, I was too much focused on the recent events. I don't have much information about that, but I remember that you suspected Lichtmann as a scum or possible ghost.

[FM Galloway]

@Ryan, Earle's soma was drugged. Hogeboom never had soma. This analysis needs work. Phelps was interviewed by the journalist and claimed to have blocked Dunn. You can tell because the interviewed subject claims to have blocked Hogeboom night 4. That was Phelps's claim.

Can you give your reads on Mendez, Lichtmann, Leary and Black please?

Even if someone feels like they are rehashing, I'd like some discussion on those four. I can't really place them and they are all (for the most part) reasonably active.

Mendez has been fairly pro town in posts from my skim as I search for more connections.
Litchmann is either Savage by now or he is just a very [bleep] citizen. I think savage. He is withdrawn except for when he is defending himself and he is eager to sheep without giving out his own reads or leads.
Leary is a little better than litchmann but he is probably still a savage as well, i wouldn't be surprised.
Black strikes me as a try hard citizen or a wifoming citizens.

Need more?

[FM Donnelly]

What's your taken on Mendez, Lichtmann, and Black?

Sorry this took so long. I had to go back and read through all their posts in order to be thorough. The results were pretty enlightening.

Mendez:

Mendez seems pretty towny to me. She didn't immediately trust Cafarelli when he claimed investigator, even after he lynched the arsonist (as seen here). I find this to be a town tell because I think trusting anyone blindly, especially a role that can potentially be claimed by two different scum factions, is scummy. She later tried to detect a possible savage investigator code by ballard to gain information for town (here). She also isn't shy about posting long, well-thought out posts like this one. Scumdar Rating: 90% town

Lichtmann:

Lichtmann is pretty scummy. Take a look at this post. He says "i rely on other peoples reads to form opinions". That sounds to me like a scum who doesn't want to contribute, so he waits for other people to contribute so he can just blindly agree with them and hope they don't notice. This one is scummy too. Here he just said he knows what the other neutral is, and when you ask him to explain, he says they are executioner because they have their vote on him. Calling someone scum just for FoSing you is not a town thing to do at all, because it is only natural for town to be suspicious of everyone since they don't know who is a fellow town member. Scumdar Rating: 80% scum

Black:

Black is reeeeeaaaaaally scummy. Like if we didn't already have Dunn and Phelps ready to be lynched, I would vote Black right now. I just looked through previous days for a link to his profile. Check it out. Just by looking at all the posts on that page right now, I immediately noticed one thing they all have in common. They're all one sentence long. And he doesn't even post very often. All of his posts from days 3, 4, and 5 fit on that one page. I counted and he had 15 posts on day 5, all of them once sentence long. Can all of his thoughts for a day really be contained in 15 sentences? Apparently they can, because even those 15 sentences didn't contain anything of value. He especially likes posting redundant questions. See here. Scumdar Rating: 99% Scum

[FM Parker]

@Ryan, you were bussed by Dunn night 4. Earle's soma was drugged by Buchwalter to give the mafia an alternative suspect for the soma pass and an excuse for Cafarelli to have an accurate results.

I know I have thought of Lichtmann as a possible ghost or scum. I'm soliciting opinions to see if I'm right. I also know that I have no real evidence on Lichtmann at all. I want everyone's opinions before I reveal the rest of the scum. By everyone contributing their opinion on all four candidates, I'll learn a hell of a lot about who is scum and who isn't.

@Galloway, nope. That'll do nicely.

@Donnelly, very good. Definitely not active lurking like I suspected.

[FM Parker]

Off to bed now for real. ;) I'm deliberately withholding my opinions on people because I want honesty and not sheeping. I feel if I put my opinions on the four, it will lead to a sheep fest.

[FM Galloway]

Sorry this took so long. I had to go back and read through all their posts in order to be thorough. The results were pretty enlightening.

Mendez:

Mendez seems pretty towny to me. She didn't immediately trust Cafarelli when he claimed investigator, even after he lynched the arsonist (as seen here). I find this to be a town tell because I think trusting anyone blindly, especially a role that can potentially be claimed by two different scum factions, is scummy. She later tried to detect a possible savage investigator code by ballard to gain information for town (here). She also isn't shy about posting long, well-thought out posts like this one. Scumdar Rating: 90% town

Not trusting someone is not a town tell. Its not a tell at all. Anyone with half a brain would think to act that way, scum wise. The code detecting is a town tell and the drawn out posts are a small town tell.

Lichtmann:

Lichtmann is pretty scummy. Take a look at this post. He says "i rely on other peoples reads to form opinions". That sounds to me like a scum who doesn't want to contribute, so he waits for other people to contribute so he can just blindly agree with them and hope they don't notice. This one is scummy too. Here he just said he knows what the other neutral is, and when you ask him to explain, he says they are executioner because they have their vote on him. Calling someone scum just for FoSing you is not a town thing to do at all, because it is only natural for town to be suspicious of everyone since they don't know who is a fellow town member. Scumdar Rating: 80% scum

Pretty much a thing here. However it is way to complicatedly posted here when a simple [bleep] this guy is the classical case of active lurking OMGUS scum would have done well with a link.

Black:

Black is reeeeeaaaaaally scummy. Like if we didn't already have Dunn and Phelps ready to be lynched, I would vote Black right now. I just looked through previous days for a link to his profile. Check it out. Just by looking at all the posts on that page right now, I immediately noticed one thing they all have in common. They're all one sentence long. And he doesn't even post very often. All of his posts from days 3, 4, and 5 fit on that one page. I counted and he had 15 posts on day 5, all of them once sentence long. Can all of his thoughts for a day really be contained in 15 sentences? Apparently they can, because even those 15 sentences didn't contain anything of value. He especially likes posting redundant questions. See here. Scumdar Rating: 99% Scum

Lack of content is not a scum tell. How the [bleep] is this guy scummier to you than Litchmann is? Are you [bleep] high or something? Only issue otherwise I would agree somewhat while doing my own investigation.

@Ryan, you were bussed by Dunn night 4. Earle's soma was drugged by Buchwalter to give the mafia an alternative suspect for the soma pass and an excuse for Cafarelli to have an accurate results.

I know I have thought of Lichtmann as a possible ghost or scum. I'm soliciting opinions to see if I'm right. I also know that I have no real evidence on Lichtmann at all. I want everyone's opinions before I reveal the rest of the scum. By everyone contributing their opinion on all four candidates, I'll learn a hell of a lot about who is scum and who isn't.

@Galloway, nope. That'll do nicely.

@Donnelly, very good. Definitely not active lurking like I suspected.

Ghost is hardly ever a thing. Litchmann has not posted enough content to warrant dying in any way and he tried hard to not die. That shows he has an interest in the game and with his posts it is clearly not in the day chat. Only connection is the night ability and since he hasn't been of use he is likely to be a scum.

[FM Galloway]

Heading to sleep now. Pretty late/early. Be back later.

[FM Donnelly]

Lack of content is not a scum tell. How the [bleep] is this guy scummier to you than Litchmann is? Are you [bleep] high or something? Only issue otherwise I would agree somewhat while doing my own investigation.

Lack of content is not a scum tell? Since when? As I recall, it is in town's best interest to try to make the most of the day and contribute. I don't see how not contributing could possibly be seen as a town tell. If no one ever talked during the day, scum would win 100% of the time. It's only because town has the day to coordinate and figure things out that they are able to win. So if someone is not posting anything of value during the day, the only reason for them to do so is if they are scum trying to waste town's time and try to appear like they're contributing. It's blending and it's scummy. I do think he's scummier than Lichtmann. But really, "scummier" is pretty meaningless since it's not a continuum, it's a dichotomy. Either someone is scum, or they are not scum. And Lichtmann and Black both are scum.

As to your critique of my Mendez read, placement of trust can be a town or a scum tell. If someone places too much trust in everyone, they're probably just a scum trying to buddy with town, which is pretty scummy. And it's not necessarily that post length alone indicates alignment, but I notice that Buchwalter's posts, even though long in many cases, were devoid of any of his own thoughts. He only listed feedback. Mendez actually puts a lot of thought into her posts, which is what makes it a town read for me.

[FM Kalou]

High scum vibe from ryan. He hard defended buch yesterday. He, as i thought, thought buch was saveable

[FM Donnelly]

Black strikes me as a try hard citizen or a wifoming citizens.

Try hard citizen?! Really?! Did you even read his posts? I'm hoping you were too lazy to bother, because if you tell me you actually read his posts and came to that conclusion, I will lose a lot of respect for you.

[FM Ryan]

Who said I was DEFENDING Buchwalter?

I was going to vote him as well, but he was at L-3 already. At that time, I already though that he would be a safe lynch as he claimed himself delta (compared to others). The reason I did not vote him was to give you enough time to make plans for Night 6.

I'm going to pressure vote Black. He talked too little to catch my attention, so I'll fix that problem in a while. Everyone needs to post today, we don't need to stick around favorites. When Black returns, I want him to have his opinion on the following people:

Dunn
Lichtmann
Leary
Ackerman
Fontaine

-vote FM Black

[FM Galloway]

Lack of content is not a scum tell? Since when? As I recall, it is in town's best interest to try to make the most of the day and contribute. I don't see how not contributing could possibly be seen as a town tell. If no one ever talked during the day, scum would win 100% of the time. It's only because town has the day to coordinate and figure things out that they are able to win. So if someone is not posting anything of value during the day, the only reason for them to do so is if they are scum trying to waste town's time and try to appear like they're contributing. It's blending and it's scummy. I do think he's scummier than Lichtmann. But really, "scummier" is pretty meaningless since it's not a continuum, it's a dichotomy. Either someone is scum, or they are not scum. And Lichtmann and Black both are scum.

As to your critique of my Mendez read, placement of trust can be a town or a scum tell. If someone places too much trust in everyone, they're probably just a scum trying to buddy with town, which is pretty scummy. And it's not necessarily that post length alone indicates alignment, but I notice that Buchwalter's posts, even though long in many cases, were devoid of any of his own thoughts. He only listed feedback. Mendez actually puts a lot of thought into her posts, which is what makes it a town read for me.

So your arguing semantics mostly? Seems ridiculous as scummy is the norm word choice here.
Yeah I can get what your saying about content but Im still against using that solely to determine if someone is scum or not. Black is active and he gives opinions, iirc. So we need to get a bit more on him rather than just one liners.

K for real its bed now.

[FM Galloway]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...235#post326235

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...168#post326168

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...882#post325882

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...723#post325723

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...452#post325452

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...399#post324399


Nvm. Need to skim less when im looking through Dunns posts with Buchwalter.
Yeah Black is scummy I feel [bleep] retarded for missing these things.

[FM Galloway]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...235#post326235

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...168#post326168

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...882#post325882

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...723#post325723

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...452#post325452

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...399#post324399


Nvm. Need to skim less when im looking through Dunns posts with Buchwalter.
Yeah Black is scummy I feel [bleep] retarded for missing these things.

-vote FM Black