Day 5

[FM Earle]

I'm still not convinced, but I don't think the real journalist will reveal. How about that final interview. Please confirm.

You are acting more and more like scum. And I trusted you! Just unvote. Thanks.

[FM Black]

Black not unvoting. Suspicious. Black unvote NAO!

Did I say I was going to unvote yet?

[FM Ackerman]

You are acting more and more like scum. And I trusted you! Just unvote. Thanks.

Care to elaborate on why the detective claimd investigative leads. Thought so.

-vote FM Earle

[FM Earle]

Did I say I was going to unvote yet?

There are only flimsy accusations on me. Nobody even bothered debating about interceptor.

Because I'm think Buchwalter is town. Sorting out information for lazy town is only bad for Mafia. And if he is Mafia, he can only be Disguiser. But he has yet to flee. Conclusion, Buchwalter is stupid if he is Mafia. And I don't think that he is.

So what about interceptors?

[FM Galloway]

I'll be honest. I think this is Earle first game and he just doesn't know what else to do in defense. So he roleclaims. He messed up the day and night interview stuff, which could easily be explained via nervousness and inexperience in large FMs, and his sudden apperence and acitivty in demanding unvotes, which also can be explained by inexperience.

I get the vibe that he is being legit however.

[FM Rose]

If earle is innocent then buchwalker is a scum. I don't think the mafia would actually use their soma without some kind of plan to defend themselves.

[FM Earle]

Care to elaborate on why the detective claimd investigative leads. Thought so.

-vote FM Earle

How would I know?

For one, I myself will not claim my real role with Savages around. Why he chose that, perhaps he found potential blackmailer who visited Lichtmann? Or Escort/Consort who visited roleblock claimers?

You might as well as me what his code is...

Where is the Coroner when you need him?

[FM Earle]

If earle is innocent then buchwalker is a scum. I don't think the mafia would actually use their soma without some kind of plan to defend themselves.

Mafia will not use their soma for double kill if they are not sure they cannot be tracked.

1) Did Parker mess up?
2) Did Mason mess up?
3) Was it even from soma use?

Nobody bothered to debate this. Lynch Earle, they only want.

[FM Rose]

I find it odd that buchwalter didn't instantly reveal that he gave his soma to earle when there were 2 mafia kills. He was pushed into revealing who he gave his soma too and he even hesitated to vote on earle after revealing it.

-vote Fm buchwalter

Earle should interview the Mayor and someone trustworthy tonight to proove himself. The mafia can abstain from writing a article to frame you.

[FM Rose]

But i guess your soma could just be a drug.

[FM Earle]

They can't roleblock me cause my interview will still go through. Earle is unassailable.

Proof self Earle will!

[FM Earle]

But i guess your soma could just be a drug.

Earle still journasist.

[FM Rose]

Can the drug dealer include a message if he drugs someone into recieving soma?

[FM Earle]

Earle wants to know if Journalist visits can be intercepted?

[FM Rose]

I think you wont be able to publish the article if you get roleblocked.

[FM Galloway]

If my understanding is correct you can interview but it wont be published if you get roleblocked.

[FM Leary]

Mhhh Earle might be a journalist, but he could also be using the premise of his mafia teammates affirming his non existent interviewed claims.
So there are 2 scenarios:
Earle flips journalist, which was a legit claim and we don't know anything more about the circumstances, cept that the people who pushed extremely hard for his lynch without considering the possibility of a legit claim could very likely be scum
Earle flips Mafia, which would out Fontaine and probably Rose as mafia.

[FM Earle]

Mhhh Earle might be a journalist, but he could also be using the premise of his mafia teammates affirming his non existent interviewed claims.
So there are 2 scenarios:
Earle flips journalist, which was a legit claim and we don't know anything more about the circumstances, cept that the people who pushed extremely hard for his lynch without considering the possibility of a legit claim could very likely be scum
Earle flips Mafia, which would out Fontaine and probably Rose as mafia.

You think the real journalist won't claim?

Rose was interview N1 and Earle interviewed Rose again N2. Rose claimed interview before Earle revealed. And interview is content is consistent.

Waiting for Fontaine to prove Earle.

-vote FM Fontaine

[FM Earle]

How difficult it is for Earle to prove that Earle is Journalist. Black for example wants to make sure Earle dies before proving himself.

[FM Black]

Don't worry, I will be unvoting before I leave for the day. Until I have some more basis on your claims, your vote stays. It just seems odd how you were given soma and two kills popup. I'm not excluding the masons, but I doubt they would give away their soma due to it being more important to kill savages.

[FM Earle]

How is it odd. Earle acted stupid. Mafia found opportunity. Mislead town for another day.

Thankfully Earle is only acting stupid. Caught Mafia in the act, Earle did.

Questions Black?

[FM Kalou]

So the plan is, if there are double interviews, them earle is clear. If earle doesnt double interview, then he proves who he interviewed, and buch gets lynched. Otherwise, it was a good soma deal, and the gfs soma wasnt buchs.

Good plan?

Who are other fos's.


BTW, SOMEONE BLOCK BUCH.

[FM Earle]

So the plan is, if there are double interviews, them earle is clear. If earle doesnt double interview, then he proves who he interviewed, and buch gets lynched. Otherwise, it was a good soma deal, and the gfs soma wasnt buchs.

Good plan?

Who are other fos's.


BTW, SOMEONE BLOCK BUCH.

Great plan great plan. Kalou is indeed town. Unlike Ackermann.

[FM Earle]

Earle suggest we pressure Fontaine to talk. Long silence he had.

[FM Kalou]

Id rather lynch buch though. He hesitated for a reason. 1000000000% scum

[FM Kalou]

-vote Fm buchwalter

[FM Earle]

Earle gets a town vibe from Buch.

Rule out interceptor we had not.

[FM Kalou]

Just cuz u can prove journalist, dsnt make u town

[FM Kalou]

G'night all!

[FM Earle]

Just cuz u can prove journalist, dsnt make u town

Indeed. Earle like to remind Mafia and Savage that Earle might not be town. Remember Corrupt Journalist. So stay off Earle tonight.

[FM Black]

Indeed. Earle like to remind Mafia and Savage that Earle might not be town. Remember Corrupt Journalist. So stay off Earle tonight.

I still heavily doubt there are two corrupt journalists. Anyways, I am departing for awhile.

-unvote

[FM Fontaine]

Going to post this quick before anyone gets lynched.

I was Bus Driven last night right after my Interview.

Just reading though the posts.

[FM Earle]

*tears*

-vote unvote

[FM Ferengi]

Can the drug dealer include a message if he drugs someone into recieving soma?

Yes. There is no difference between the feedback given by an alpha passing soma and a drug dealer fake passing soma.

Earle wants to know if Journalist visits can be intercepted?

The journalist approaches his target before the interceptor moves into place. Therefore, the journalist / corrupt journalist/ savage journalist cannot be intercepted.

[FM Hogeboom]

Okay guys, I think I should reveal some shit to get a lynch on scum going.

I am the Bus Driver. I will post my LW so far with some additions in yellow:

I switched myself with FM Mendez on N1.
This was purely random.

I switched FM Galloway with FM Monroe. on N2.
I guessed Galloway's COM and feared that he could be killed so I switched him with Monroe who I deemed scummy.

I switched FM Colmyer with FM Ackerman on N3.
This caused Colmyer to receive Ackerman's blackmail, I wonder why Ackerman didn't say anything, maybe Colmyer's blackmail?
Anyway, this should prove that Ackerman is not Mafia. Also, Ackerman has said now that he didn't claim on N3 so this makes me trust him even more. I'm kinda sure he was blackmailed on N3 and N4, N4 as a result of receiving blackmail N3 is what I would guess. Anyway, Ackerman is 100% town.

ON NIGHT 4!:
I tried to switch FM Ballard with FM Cafarelli but I was roleblocked. I did not claim this in the chat because it would be obvious that I am the Bus Driver and fearing a Consort I decided to not claim anything, maybe hoping for a bit of trust so they would leave me alone. I have a feeling though that they could attack me to eliminate a Bus Driver.
If it was an Escort then I hope he realizes that only a pro-town role would not claim roleblocked.
Also, to my surprise, there were 2 roleblock claims, maybe one of them drugged.
Phelps is an Escort because I was not targeted by the Mafia is what I would say, he also didn't reveal me which is good. It seems that he also claimed to have been roleblocked, maybe because he noticed that I didn't claim? Not sure about the times when he and I posted, but possible.

I will try to switch myself tonight, but I hope I don't get roleblocked again. I will preferrably switch myself with FM Rose because this person seems a bit scummy I guess.
Rose is 100% town.

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So, as Earle has said who wrote that BD article, I can say that we should lynch FM Fontaine. Especially the switch of FM Ackerman with FM Morgan makes me think that it's the Kidnapper. Why would he swap Ackerman? Probably to prevent me from switching him, I would be switching FM Morgan as Kidnapping comes before Bus Driving in OoO. Or maybe he didn't even switch Morgan but just claimed to have done so because they were going to kill Morgan anyway, but instead switched someone else causing four BD (did Fontaine maybe receive Soma? I doubt that we have 2 BD and one Kidnapper). Additionally, how would he know that Ackerman is 100% town? Think about it. I would know because Colmyer received Ackerman's BM as I know that I switched them, but how would Fontaine know?

Maybe you can make use of my results better than me, but I deem FM Fontaine a good lynch for us.

-vote FM Fontaine

[FM Carruthers]

I have woken up and read everything.

I'd like to say that Earle is a possible corrupt journalist, that favors scum.

I don't believe his claim to be fair and some things may be an outright lie.

[FM Ryan]

Why you revealed yourself as Bus Driver, Hogeboom? You do realize that this is going to put you to disadvantage against Mafia and Witch?

[FM Hogeboom]

Why you revealed yourself as Bus Driver, Hogeboom? You do realize that this is going to put you to disadvantage against Mafia and Witch?

Because I found this to be a clusterfuck and I wanted to get off my information so people are not as confused. Also I have not been contributing much and I will just keep bus driving. With the TPRs that have been revealed today I found it better if I give you my information so we can get a relatively safe lynch today.

[FM Cafarelli]

As an experiment and for fun, I decided to play as if I had multiple personality disorder. One personality a sarcastic, trolling liar. All of my lynch votes as this character were fake (I'm surprised nobody took note). The other personality a blatantly honest kind of guy.

I flipped a coin at (mostly) random time intervals to decide which it was going to be.

heads = good guy
he/a/ds (tails) = bad guy

I'm an Escort

Humped Hopgood night 1. Hop hop hop.

Humped Buchwalter night 2 for being a tally keeper who was subtly guiding the town's suspicion without posting strong arguments why he found certain people scummy or not.

Soft claimed here and here.

Humped Black night 3 for talking a lot without really saying much, and claiming to be a replacement. I also didn't like the reads he agreed with.
Soft claimed here.

Humped Phelps night 4. This is when my suspicion of Cafarelli really grew, and because she was telling people to leave me alone for the time being, I decided to turn my target choice around and block someone who defended me without much question.

He was immune. I hinted at being responsible for his block several times today. I did not reveal previously because if he is escort, I'd just be helping scum a great deal with night kill targets and mislynches.

Humped Cafarelli night 5. Because I think I saw through the mafia's plan. Way too many of the night actions, journalist articles and things said in the day chat seem somehow connected to me and her. I wanted to reduce their ability to gather information needed for it to work. Even if I was wrong and she wasn't consig, it was still very likely for her to have been savage investigator. Ballard's flip however is evidence against that. I also figured we would have plenty of things to talk about already.

My current list of mafia suspects is as follows:
Godfather - Ackerman/Earle
Consigliere - Cafarelli/Ackerman
Consort - Phelps?? (50% chance)
Kidnapper - Mendez/Parker/Dunn?
Blackmailer - Lichtman?
Drug Dealer - Lichtman? (if both Morgan and Cafarelli both lied, drug dealer isn't even confirmed and this could be an interceptor who finally got a kill last night. Questionable though, the soma explanation is more likely.)

Galloway is also possibly mafia. His frequent comments that witholding information or lying is always bad for the town are not only false, they could also be used to justify his future voting behavior. That and he has been excusing Cafarelli, Phelps and myself multiple times.

Night 1:
Kidnapper swaps me and Mason
Consigliere investigates me (through mason)

Night 2:
Bus driver swaps meand Galloway (because I led the mislynch and Galloway looked town)
Kidnapper swaps Dunn and Lichtmann
Consigliere investigates Cohen (Rose's result is actually something I COULD see someone forging)

I was bus driven on night 1 and night 2. Not on night 4, that was a lie in case Cafarelli would jump out and claim an investigation on me if I decided to claim I had blocked Phelps. It would also conveniently protect a bus driver if the consort happened to have blocked that person.

Because I did not claim bus driven until day 2, Cafarelli may have thought I was scum and delayed my claim to message the mafia kidnapper that I'm an ally. But I really was driven again night 2.

Night 3:
Mafia gives shape to their plans. They do not pressure me excessively and try to contact me instead.
Bus driver swaps Colmyer and Ballard (because Ballard stopped contributing and Colmyer could use some protection. Could someone look for any posts from Ballard that might have been the result of blackmailing? He was rather quiet around this time from what I remember)
Kidnapper swaps Kalou and Ackerman
Consigliere investigates unknown target (Cohen investigation is claimed BS)

On day 3 there was something really strange about the posts where Cafarelli accused Cohen.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post321805


https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post321820

Neither Witch nor Ghost is on the list of roles Cafarelli posted which roles he suspected to be, yet she decides to mention them. She is now explaining the shifty bit of information away by saying her investigation on Cohen was not real. I think Lichtman briefly referred to this yesterday when he was being pressured, but he crawled back into his hole and quoted a post made by Cohen that didn't really prove anything as an "explanation."

BOTH of these roles were from the pairing in the journalist article posted on day 2.


Mason is mentioned here because this "investigator" claims to have targeted Mason, who was swapped with me. If it was a kidnapper who swapped me, the consigliere would of course know about it. I think Cafarelli may have been signalling to me for cooperation, thinking I was witch/ghost on day 3, and my "bad guy" personality was probably enough for them to not block me or use a kill on me up until now.

She knew Cohen lied about his poison feedback because she was mafia herself, and decided to use that against him. If a mafia member was doused, she may have done it to make sure he would not be killing her own night chat buddies. If that did not happen, she may have done it because she thought Cohen to be a town PR that could easily be lynched. A veteran would not be able to prove himself. A vigilante would fall under the witch's control if they claimed. Same for blacksmith. If he was a busdriver, mafia could have used a kidnapper to kill him and get rid of a big problem. If he was a student, he hadn't picked one of their own and might be asked to take her as his mentor to confirm himself.

Ackerman starts to become more serious during the day as opposed to the trolling he started with. While this is a common transformation seen in town PRs, the same is true for scum who start to act according to a plan.

Night 4:
Mafia changes their mind about me because I claimed my block targets 2 days in a row
Kidnapper: too many unknown swaps to judge
Bus driver: too many unknown swaps to judge
Journalist interviews kidnapper (who doesn't see the PM because the night is started late and he's already on his mafia account. The information in the article does the following things:
It tries to clear Ackerman
It tries to clear Kalou
It tries to clear Parker
It tries to clear Earle
It suggests Phelps may be town. But there's a question mark so if he flips mafia the interviewee is still safe.
It tries to make me a suspect (savage) by pointing out my lie about the bus drive night 1, the impact of my possible claim has already been diminished by Cafarelli's claim on Phelps. They can't call me a witch because it encourages the thought that they knew my invest pairing)
Consigliere investigates unknown target

Night 4 Phelps was roleblocked. Realising that he'd be revealed soon anyway, he made a 180 on Cafarelli and Cafarelli jumps in and claims a result on him at the last minute to get extra town cred in case Phelps gets lynched, while whatever escort blocked him will get no credit because they didn't claim first. The mafia now clearly wants to lynch me. Even when they do not blatantly vote, ever so often they post how scummy they think I am.

Parker starts a train on me, calling me out on claiming "witched" and suggesting I have done it because it supposedly has something to do with cult recruitments. Not only was it an utter bullshit argument, it also corresponds with the accusations in the journalist's article, as well as my perceived change in the mafia's change of plan regarding me.

At the end of the day, Mendez proposes a plan that will help Phelps to prove that he is an escort/consort. This would logically reduce pressure on Phelps because witch, ghost and blackmailer are all eliminated. It's a psychological effect that would favor him if he's a consort, even though he still has 50% chance of being scum.

I also think the article from yesterday was NOT posted late because the hosts completely forgot to send the interviewee a PM. They just sent it to the player's day account and not their night account. I was online at the end of day 3 and regularly checked to see Cohen's flip after the hammer. It took several hours before the closing post was made by Switzerland. I suspect the journalist interview recipient had already logged onto their mafia night chat account by then.

Night 5:
I have not done a thorough analysis yet.

Cafarelli gets roleblocked, rages like a little kid and sets herself up for an easily motivated bussing target by her teammates. The town already suspects that she is scum anyway. Cafarelli also claims to have wanted to investigate Chapman. This shared FoS with Phelps could be used as a reason to lynch me over Phelps.

Today after I point out a bunch of obvious flaws in the journalist article, Ackerman comes up and introduces himself as the hero of the town by providing the ultimate proof that the article had lies in it because he was bus driven night 3. Unless someone was drugged, Cafarelli or the article writer is lying.

He hints at being the "investigator" who was interviewed night 2 and requests to be urgently interviewed again. My guess is he would want to use Cafarelli's true investigation results after Cafarelli got thrown under the bus and to reveal me being blackmailer/consort/escort/witch/ghost and probably scum for witholding information. He also reasons that an escort could be converted by the savages, which is handy to fuel the accusation posted in the kidnapper's article. Once Cafarelli is dead and flips mafia, her claims to be drugged can be discarded and it opens up the possibility for the article to be true again, clearing the kidnapper from suspicion for the time being so they can stay hidden. Afterwards, he would claim no feedback drugs just like she did to account for the lack of new investigation results. He does not seem all that worried to be recruited by the savages either, because his implied claim is dreadfully obvious.

well as i said i screwed up when i said something about the witch and then i wanted to fix it. but i screwed up again by taking a role out of the same pairing again. student was the neutral role i wanted to take, not ghost or witch. your theory is very far fetched, it was an honest mistake.
the rest concerning me is also wrong and far fetched.

however your role claim seems legit. you cant be the consort because the mafia would never block + drug deal me.
i didn't knew anything about you blocking me because i was drugged. anyway it pisses me of that you're trying to harm the town by preventing me from getting feedback.

and your doubts in the existance of a drug dealer is bullshit. there must be one because morgan was fake blackmailed n2. that also proves that i was really drugged all the nights because who else...

so phelps cant be bmer/witch/ghost but your claim makes me even more sure he is the consort.
given there are 2 escorts and 1 consort which is the consensus and given you're really escort. you blocked phelps n4 and saw he's immune. we said block again if not immune so you didn't block again. but someone else blocked him. question is now, was it a consort or an escort?
consort: would mean phelps is an escort. the mafia would know he is either escort or witch/ghost. i can't see any reason why the mafia would block any of those roles, escorts are immune anyway. so this is very unlikely
escort: want to get information himself, whether he is immune or not. very likely. if it was an escort, all that's left for phelps is consort.

earle:
it's true that a journalist couldn't use soma earlier. also masons could have passed their soma too. the drug deal soma is not possible, the only night we don't know what he did is n4, when earle received his soma. but since parker confirmed he gave soma to buchwalter and he confirmed to give it to earle this cannot be drugged. so i recommend we wait. i will unvote by voting dunn

-vote FM Dunn

he is kidnapper for sure

buchwalter:
why did you even pass soma to earle. he didn't look very townish tbh. we should avoid soma getting into wrong hands.


hogeboom:
i don't understand this reveal. you're swapping yourself now, so the mafia can kill/drugdeal/block anyone else, i'm sure they will drug me again. we gain almost no useful information because of that reveal. anyway at least you tried to swap me n4
i trust your claim though. makes it pretty sure that dunn is the kidnapper. maybe you should use some WIFOM tonight for the swap.

[FM Cafarelli]

recommandation: lynch dunn the kidnapper, don't block earle and see if there are 2 interviews tomorrow

[FM Cafarelli]

and interview parker so he can confirm

[FM Cafarelli]

hogeboom, you didnt say who you drived n5

[FM Hogeboom]

hogeboom, you didnt say who you drived n5

Yes i did.

i don't understand this reveal. you're swapping yourself now, so the mafia can kill/drugdeal/block anyone else, i'm sure they will drug me again. we gain almost no useful information because of that reveal. anyway at least you tried to swap me n4
i trust your claim though. makes it pretty sure that dunn is the kidnapper. maybe you should use some WIFOM tonight for the swap.

Nobody said that I would be swapping myself. With all these juicy targets, would they go for the BD? That's a question up to them and it will be interesting to watch.

I also do think that we get useful information, Ackerman was FOSd by some and we get the information that Rose is town, just trust me on that one.
We also learn that the one who wrote that BD article is scum.

Also, sorry, I misunderstood when Earle interviewed who. The BD article is from Dunn, yes?

-vote FM Dunn

[FM Cafarelli]

here are some other confirmed facts:

if galetta flips mafia, an escort blocked her n1 and not a consort, which means that phelps or monroe must be consort. i trust monroe more
doesn't work vice versa unfortunately, because if he flips town both might have blocked her

same for bekowsky n2 but he was town

n3 the 3rd block is unknown

n4 it was donnelly. now here is gets interesting. i suspect him to be the drug dealer because i wasnt drugged that's enough proof for me that the drug dealer was blocked. why would the mafia just let me investigate that night. they could at least block me if they had better use for the dd. the other blocked guys that night were the bd and consort/escort phelps who both cannot be the drug dealer, so it must be donelly
that being said, if he is indeed the drug dealer it is also confirmed again that phelps/monroe is consort

[FM Cafarelli]

Yes i did.


Nobody said that I would be swapping myself. With all these juicy targets, would they go for the BD? That's a question up to them and it will be interesting to watch.

I also do think that we get useful information, Ackerman was FOSd by some and we get the information that Rose is town, just trust me on that one.
We also learn that the one who wrote that BD article is scum.

Also, sorry, I misunderstood when Earle interviewed who. The BD article is from Dunn, yes?

-vote FM Dunn

yes? where did you write it?

also you did say you will try to swap yourself and rose tonight.

yes it was dunn who wrote the bd/kidnapper interview

and i don't know why rose is 100% town. you also said the seems a bit scummy

[FM Hogeboom]

yes? where did you write it?

also you did say you will try to swap yourself and rose tonight.

yes it was dunn who wrote the bd/kidnapper interview

and i don't know why rose is 100% town. you also said the seems a bit scummy

I stated that it is my last will. My last will was written last night, meaning I swapped myself with Rose last night. Information I acquired dictate that Rose is 100% proven.

[FM Fontaine]

So I was interviewed so this comfirms Earle's role.

And Yes I am a replacement.

[FM Cafarelli]

ah it's your lw of last night.
did you catch up rose's blackmail? if so he's only 100% not maf, could still be savaged after my invest. btw i wonder who was blackmailed last day

[FM Parker]

There will only be one interview tomorrow. If Buchwalter passed fake soma to Earle, then he cannot use fake soma. I can too believe Earle is a poor player. We are lynching the godfather today.

-reveal

-vote FM Buchwalter

Bus driver, did you bus me last night?

[FM Galletta]

There will only be one interview tomorrow. If Buchwalter passed fake soma to Earle, then he cannot use fake soma. I can too believe Earle is a poor player. We are lynching the godfather today.

-reveal

-vote FM Buchwalter

Bus driver, did you bus me last night?

Haha.