M-FM XXIV Civilization Gamethread

[2048]

And I honestly don't blame you. Hell if you want to lynch me to prove I'm the Coroner go right ahead.

Like that is even a sane option.

[2048]

Kik

I am throwing what I feel needs to be done.... May there be no more mistakes...

[Cut the Rope]

Kik

I am throwing what I feel needs to be done.... May there be no more mistakes...

Looks like Kik town lynch likely...beautiful (sarcasm)

Once 4 pics 1 word and Fruit Ninja add their votes to Kik more than likely I'll hammer...But I won't hammer Kik until I know we can't do the right thing in the Instagram lynch. The one person who I said was scum since day fucking one....

And mafia/SK one of you please kill Piano Tiles so we can actually HAVE a winner. Otherwise if they don't post anything it may be another 24 hours after this death before a winner can be chosen.

[2048]

Looks like Kik town lynch likely...beautiful (sarcasm)

Once 4 pics 1 word and Fruit Ninja add their votes to Kik more than likely I'll hammer...But I won't hammer Kik until I know we can't do the right thing in the Instagram lynch. The one person who I said was scum since day fucking one....

And mafia/SK one of you please kill Piano Tiles so we can actually HAVE a winner. Otherwise if they don't post anything it may be another 24 hours after this death before a winner can be chosen.

Oh I always thought you were scum since Day 1 too

[Cut the Rope]

Oh I always thought you were scum since Day 1 too

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Please tell me that was a joke. :P Only Instagram and Vine ever voted for me XD

[2048]

LOL HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Please tell me that was a joke. :P Only Instagram and Vine ever voted for me XD

Oh I know. Course I would have never said anything. You've been in my last will. The only evidence I have against you is the bad lynches.

[Cut the Rope]

LOL The sad thing is I'm pretty sure if you are town I know what your role is which makes this all the more comical.

[2048]

LOL The sad thing is I'm pretty sure if you are town I know what your role is which makes this all the more comical.

If only

[Cut the Rope]

2048 -- yeah we'll see when you die more than likely tonight. :P

And I know why Instagram fake sheriff'd me too this is all just really really depressingly bad now how bad I derped now that I'm pretty sure I've broken the game. *blush*


Instagram -- Really? You couldn't kill me??!

[Cut the Rope]

Oh and Quizup --- Instagram is NOT TOWN! THEY ARE NOT PEACEFUL :P That's the one thing I got right XD Everything else I should have trusted you on.

*leaves a should have listened wreath on Quizup's grave during the day*

[Cut the Rope]

Ctr should have listened**

[Instagram]

2048 -- yeah we'll see when you die more than likely tonight. :P

And I know why Instagram fake sheriff'd me too this is all just really really depressingly bad now how bad I derped now that I'm pretty sure I've broken the game. *blush*


Instagram -- Really? You couldn't kill me??!

Okay, I thought you'd finally figured it out until the last sentence there.

[Instagram]

Btw, The cross vote there just broke open the game. I'm going to place my vote on Angry Birds. I'm putting my faith in you Kik. Don't mess this up.

[Cut the Rope]

Okay, I thought you'd finally figured it out until the last sentence there.

*sigh* You are the SK...

And I know why you did what you did. So when you win more than likely I will congratulate you. :)

@2048 -- I'll hammer whoever has 4 votes tomorrow...I just want the game to go forward at this point since we can't win without lynching Instagram or Piano Tiles realistically and that isn't going to happen :P

[Cut the Rope]

Ohhhhhhhhhhh wait........what if we no lynch twice and the SK hits scum both times...Yeah!

[Cut the Rope]

That might work :D Wait no....Then it's 2 townies versus the SK and Fruit Ninja.....damn it. :P

[Cut the Rope]

OMG we can still win if we no lynch :D *squee* We need a lot of luck though. :D:D:D:D:D:D I think we can do it. :D:D:D:D:D:D

[Cut the Rope]

Yeah no I'm not hammering...One last hail mary! :D

[Cut the Rope]

ALL TOWNIES: I know I normally don't discuss production but if we all pull production together on Hunger games a townie might just get a gun that lets us WIN :D

[Cut the Rope]

So we no lynch to force enough production...Then a townie gets a gun and then does the one kill that might win us the game :D

[Cut the Rope]

skip

[Cut the Rope]

*tries and then goes to sleep questioning her sanity*

[Piano Tiles]

CTR you seem to e unaware I have been busy with rl and work. I have been slowly glancing through but all of your theories and ideas have been wrong at each turn. You think you know my role? Go ahead guess. I get off work soon and will be around for tomorrow. All of your ideas can easily be debunked.

[2048]

the odds of SK hitting only mafia....?

[Piano Tiles]

the odds of SK hitting only mafia....?

player list:

Kik
Instagram
Angry Birds
2048
4pics1word
Cut The Rope
Fruit Ninja
Piano Tiles

each scenario:

no lynch: 2 scums, neutral, sk, 4 towns. Leaves 2/6 or 1/3 = 33%
lynch scum: 1 scum, neutral, sk, 4 towns. Leaves 1/5 = 25%
Lynch town (PR): 2 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns: 2/5 = 40%
Lynch town (Peacekeeper): 2 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns: 2/5 again? or would that be 4/5
Lynch SK: irrelevant
Lynch neutral: 2 scums, sk, 4 towns: 2/6 or 1/3 = 33%

[2048]

So basically CtR is saying not to lynch anyone.....
The results being there is a 33% chance SK will kill a mafia. I'm take that as a 2/5 chance by leaving the researcher out. So 40% chance to kill ONE mafia.
Mean while mafia would kill 1 town.(I do not see a reason for the SK to kill the researcher)
Leave either:
1 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns. 40% chance
OR
2 scums, neutral sk, 2 towns. 60% chance

Going with the second, town lost.

Even with a first....it's still a bad hit for town at only half votes....

I believe a no lynch is basically throwing in the towel for town and can't accept it.

[2048]

We HAVE to lynch scum today or I only see a BAD END

[Piano Tiles]

So basically CtR is saying not to lynch anyone.....
The results being there is a 33% chance SK will kill a mafia. I'm take that as a 2/5 chance by leaving the researcher out. So 40% chance to kill ONE mafia.
Mean while mafia would kill 1 town.(I do not see a reason for the SK to kill the researcher)
Leave either:
1 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns. 40% chance
OR
2 scums, neutral sk, 2 towns. 60% chance

Going with the second, town lost.

Even with a first....it's still a bad hit for town at only half votes....

I believe a no lynch is basically throwing in the towel for town and can't accept it.

Ya but my theories are only basic level there are other thing that we could account for but i dunno how to calculate it really.

Other possible scenarios:
Mafia scums hit sk (sk is immune) sk hits town
Mafia scums and SK both hit same target
Mafia scums hit SK and dies (unlikely but possible)
Cross fire of one hits one

I mean there are others that I could probably think of. The problem is there are so many outcomes that it is near impossible (at least for me) to figure out and what would be optimal.

I agree on scum lynch, but the question is this, could we lynch neutral and still have a possible good outcome?

@CTR what is your feedback btw?

[2048]

Either way, if we don't have 2 scum die with this day and night, town will be down on votes.

[Piano Tiles]

Either way, if we don't have 2 scum die with this day and night, town will be down on votes.

Agreed, but it still begs the question, is neutral considered a scum at this phase? What do you think?

[2048]

Agreed, but it still begs the question, is neutral considered a scum at this phase? What do you think?

I am not going to make a statement on that.

[Piano Tiles]

I am not going to make a statement on that.

Fair enough.

[Cut the Rope]

@Piano Tiles -- My feedback was that Fall Down was a Detective and they weren't an actor like I had hoped as mentioned earlier today. Sorry I was a bit freak out ish should have made it clearer.



Either way, if we don't have 2 scum die with this day and night, town will be down on votes.

At least NOW we are talking and I've got a few hours of sleep to go through the night. Hooray!


1 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns. 40% chance
OR
2 scums, neutral sk, 2 towns. 60% chance


Neither of these scenarios are accurate IMO. There will LIKELY be 3 deaths (assuming we don't lynch Instagram or Piano Tiles) if we hit mafia scum.

1 for the lynchee, 1 for the SK kill, 1 for the mafia kill.
This brings us to 5 players tomorrow.

OR we have death for the lynchee and SK/mafia hit the same person.
This brings us to 6 players tomorrow.

The death of one townie is guaranteed in the NK.

(Continuing in a second)

[Cut the Rope]

So assume that we hit scum with the lynch which we have NEVER done.

1 townie guaranteed, 1 scum lost, 1 kill outstanding:

Remaining players are 1 mafia, 1 SK, 1 researcher, 3 townies
The SK either hits a townie or a mafia. Assume worst case scenario and town.
This is 1 mafia, 1 sk, 1 researcher, 2 townies.
As two kills occur in the night this is a LOSS unless the SK gets lynched. The SK and researcher are aligned. They will not permit a lynch on the SK. This means that Town has to work with mafia to hit the SK to get the three votes. Assume SK is lynched. Mafia is guaranteed a townie kill in the middle of the night.

1 mafia, 1 researcher, 1 townie. Game over as mafia votes no lynch and just waits 24 hours.

Lynching mafia scum today requires the SK to hit mafia for town to have a chance. You're literally trusting the SK AGAIN!




Neither of these scenarios includes the existence of the researcher.

So at the start of today we have 4 townies, 2 mafia scum, 1 SK, 1 researcher.
If the researcher is counted as "scum" then 4 townies versus 4 scum at the start of the day.

[Cut the Rope]

Sorry all the bottom paragraph is a copy from my notes *blush* forgot to erase it.

[Cut the Rope]

But instead...Let's look at a lynch Instagram plan.

One of two things results
1) They are peaceful like they claimed and it is likely the only true statement of the entire game.
2 townies confirmed dead (Instagram + mafia kill), 2 kills outstanding from the SK.

2 mafia remain. For the SK to have a shot at winning they have to kill at least one mafia otherwise it is 0 townies, 2 scum, 1 sk, 1 researcher. This results in scum control of the lynch. By definition, this means mafia wins as they control the lynch as they decide no lynch or lynch researcher. The SK/researcher don't have enough people to prevent control the lynch loss.

1 mafia remain. 1 townie, 1 mafia, 1 sk, 1 researcher. Townie picks to kill SK/mafia. The remaining kills the townie. Townie loss but town picks the winner.

0 mafia remain. 2 townies, 0 mafia, 1 sk, 1 researcher. If the town has been building hunger games, then the town will have the gun to shoot the serial killer. Therefore we can no lynch and win if we have the gun and the immunity is off, because SK/researcher won't let either of them get lynched.


2) They are the SK.
This slows the bleeding to one night kill a night.

3 townies, 2 mafia, 1 jester. (As demonstrated yesterday the researcher is undisputably aligned with the SK).

Townies control destiny. Even more so if we have the hunger games gun at night.

[Cut the Rope]

Either way the only way we completely control our destiny is to hit the serial killer if we lynch.

Instagram

[Cut the Rope]

And yeah we likely are boned in almost every scenario at this point :( But this way at least feels less like being boned and gets the most enjoyment out of someone faking the sheriff claim.

[Cut the Rope]

I still blame Instagram for this loss. Admittedly I had a lot of derpage, but it's their fault IMO for fucking over town with that goddamn gambit. This way feels less powerless ya know?

[Cut the Rope]

If you don't believe me, that's fine. It's late here and I'm probably not explaining it well. I'll hammer if it's what town wants tomorrow since Instagram lynch likely won't happen but bleh damn it...

*tips the hat to Instagram who will likely win this thing*

Congratulations.

Now more sleep for me I guess since no one is online.

[4pics1word]

Ok guys, I'm here now. First thing: I got feedback blocked. With this, my last charge has gone to waste.

My thoughts to the situation: Lynching today has to happen. If we no-lynch then our influence will only diminish. We don't cripple ourselves accidentally again if we don't lynch but we let the scum factions get stronger and we can't have that happen.

As for who should be our target for today: I'm getting the SK vibe from both Instagram and Kik and I believe the Doomsday Killer is one of them. I really can't imagine Angry Birds being the DDK so I would opt for a Kik or Instagram lynch since crippling the mafia won't reduce the KPN.

And I would say not to worry CtR, you did lead mislynches and whatever else you may be "accused" of, but they always seemed valid and someone has to lead the day. Shit happens, but it would've most likely happened either way.

Instagram

We can switch the votes onto the other active train if needed so for now I'm voting Instagram.

[Piano Tiles]

That was a good night sleep. Anyway looking through and catching up, I have thought about some of the stuff old players have said. Quiz was town yes, but the question is why was she killed by DDK and not warmongers. She always suspected kik. But it looks like kik was always able to slip by the radar with her due to CTR and other stuff. It could be a wifom game but I'm gonna go with the basic idea and say its kik.

kik

I should be around for most of the day but will be checking in and out.

[Kik]

Sorry I've been inactive today. Work takes up a lot of my time, and when I finished working yesterday all I wanted to do was sleep. Hopefully this weekend I'll be more active assuming I survive that long.

Also just to provide some food for thought here: I see one of the main reasons people are voting instagram is that he is more likely to be sk than angry birds because angry birds is thought to most likely be mafia. But has anyone considered the possibility that maybe it was wrong to assume that Angry birds is mafia and that maybe he's actually the sk? I haven't seen the buddying between him and other players that people keep claiming to have seen. And no one has provided evidence iirc, so I feel like it's just one of those things that someone made up and then it just caught on somehow.

That being said, the votes are currently tied and if someone doesn't switch there will be a no lynch which is basically a guaranteed loss for us. And I probably won't get to post again before day ends because of work, a short lunch break, and getting off at the same time day ends. So I'm going to put my vote on instagram so that at least there is a chance of a lynch today, which means a chance (albeit small) of victory. I really hope you're right about this one, CtR.

instagram

Lynch scum. Godspeed, guys and gal.

[Instagram]

With the L-2 I have to reveal my true role, I am the doctor, and Cut The Rope just lost us the game.

[Instagram]

BTW Kik, I tried to roleswap with you there, but your voting me certainly didn't help.

[Cut the Rope]

@Instagram: See? More lying. I honestly believe that I am right. If Instagram actually is the doctor there is no way to confirm it and no reason to believe them. It can just be words to attempt to save their ass. At least if we lose everyone knows to never to do that fake claim shot or they will be lynched. /end fable

[Cut the Rope]

If they are the doctor after all they did a shitty job :(, The only play Mafia had was kill Candy Crush and it happens and they are dead. This only fuels my belief that they are lying and the true peaceful is hidden away. Please Lynch their ass. The SK may be the town MVP but they are the town FiUP (Fuck it up player). A real doctor would have contributed something to town in 4 days.

[Cut the Rope]

@Kik: To be honest with the amount of shit in this game anything is possible. I just want to at least give town a shot. It may be 5% but it is better than nothing. So as town I vote we send the message Fuck You Instagram!!!

[Cut the Rope]

Now the only problem is two of the three of Angry Birds, 2048, and Piano Tiles gotta come over. If we lose this because Instagram is actually a doctor IMO no lost sleep or anything.

And 4pics it was likely you'd be scientists. Please leave your results in your last will. Same with you 2048 as I believe you are the two TPRs besides me. If I am wrong and someone else is same applies. I will be shortening my last will to just results and actions and likely suspects. That way whoever is left has all the info. Three players can't die tonight as I am right. Instagram buckled and broke their claim.

[Cut the Rope]

Scientisted stupid spell check on my phone

[Fruit Ninja]

Hey guys, reading day chat.

[Fruit Ninja]

Btw guys

X=1,

I targeted Quizup and someone else lemmie check...

[Fruit Ninja]

Oh nvm I targeted candy crush saga

[Fruit Ninja]

Idk who too vote but I gotta be the middle man so.

Instagram

[Cut the Rope]

Bullshit x would be two or higher. Try again in your lie. Can't target Quizup and Candy Crush Saga. So which is it?!

[Fruit Ninja]

I only targeted Candy Crush.

[Fruit Ninja]

This game has been really easy for me sense I claimed...

[Cut the Rope]

And your vote on Instagram makes me very very happy about this lynch. I know Instagram's meta and the attempt at WIFOM is awesome. They probably coached you with Pyramids last night. :) Hooray :)

And yes I know. If Instagram is the SK like I believe and we manage to get hunger games someone should kill you.

[Fruit Ninja]

Lol I wasent Pyramided

[Fruit Ninja]

And who says its a mafiya with the pyramids? For all we know the person with it could be dead.

[Fruit Ninja]

>:c I do not approve of your threatening.

[Cut the Rope]

Ha calling bullshit again. Mafia has no reason to build the Pyramids as it was already mentioned you'd likely flip Wincon. It is almost a certainty to me you are talking with the SK. And no. If the person with it was dead it would be a waste. Town would connect with me so we have a plan in the next day. Mafia if they built it would buddy me. The connection is very likely SK to you.

And I am glad you don't. You are anti win con. ;)

[Fruit Ninja]

Um no, I'm still a norm researcher.

[Fruit Ninja]

And If instagram is the SK like you say, then if the lynch goes through, I would turn into a jester, you would warn the town to not lynch me and I would lose.

But that is not the case, it would go in the same way, but instead I would win.

Because I aint fucking allied with the sk.

[Cut the Rope]

Assuming you are normal which I doubt, then lynching the SK still helps us with wincon so pressuring you to keep your vote here on Instagram is the right play. :) So we will see.

I am just calling your bluff.

[Fruit Ninja]

We should do a mass role claim.

Like everyone.

If we don't get rid of the SK then our chances of losing are much greater.

[Cut the Rope]

Lol not so fast there tiger. Mass claim fucks us all over. Mafia just claim TPR anyway. Won't get anything useful. If we have to MC then it would be on the last day in a certain way.

[Cut the Rope]

Yep And Angry Birds is mafia for the crime of lurking and not hammering the SK. Beautiful.

[Fruit Ninja]

I be back at lunch k bai

[Cut the Rope]

So Instagram, then Angry Birds, then last mafia for the win :)

[Cut the Rope]

Now all that is left is to see who hammers Instagram! 2048 or Piano Tiles. Race to do the townie thing!

[Piano Tiles]

just woke up again. One moment.

[Piano Tiles]

I don't see any CC of doctor. I'm going to hold off for a bit. I think SK would take care of him anyway if he did lie or not. Also if 2048 is the last PR. Wouldn't warmongers just kill him? Quiz suspected kik, kik also lurked as much as AB. I thing you logic is flawed on it. I will only switch my vote if we can't get hammer at end of day.

[Cut the Rope]

I don't see any CC of doctor. I'm going to hold off for a bit. I think SK would take care of him anyway if he did lie or not. Also if 2048 is the last PR. Wouldn't warmongers just kill him? Quiz suspected kik, kik also lurked as much as AB. I thing you logic is flawed on it. I will only switch my vote if we can't get hammer at end of day.

Just because there's not a CC doesn't mean Instagram's claim is valid.
1) The real doctor may not want to CC to avoid being killed.
2) The doctor may not exist as I have already proposed in this scenario based on some of my mechanics analysis. RNG dictated the roles per the mods. :)

I don't think the SK would have taken care of Instagram (assuming it's not Instagram which is IMO foolish after Angry Birds didn't hammer because Mafia is scared of SK death because then town might win). Instagram was actively doing the mafia's work for them and IMO was more destructive than the mafia (assuming they are the SK). So Instagram for mafia MVP.

[Fruit Ninja]

imo Kik is more scummy than Instagram.

Instagram

If you guys post explanations on who should be lynched and how that will benefit me then I will vote that person.

[Fruit Ninja]

unvote

That is what I meant.

[Piano Tiles]

Just because there's not a CC doesn't mean Instagram's claim is valid.
1) The real doctor may not want to CC to avoid being killed.
2) The doctor may not exist as I have already proposed in this scenario based on some of my mechanics analysis. RNG dictated the roles per the mods. :)

I don't think the SK would have taken care of Instagram (assuming it's not Instagram which is IMO foolish after Angry Birds didn't hammer because Mafia is scared of SK death because then town might win). Instagram was actively doing the mafia's work for them and IMO was more destructive than the mafia (assuming they are the SK). So Instagram for mafia MVP.

You are aware that you have basically revealed the doctor though right? You assume 2048 is last PR. So if instagram is not the doc you just painted him as doc. You have also assume Mods/host random roles, I know they most likely did not. They would make something more balanced instead of random.

There is always a doctor in FMs as far as I have seen. Also AB has also been very inactive so it could merely just be that he is not here.

There are so many other scenarios that counteract what you that I think your just trying to cut down all theories that may be possible.

Let's do something: assume instagram is town peaceful what then? All of your theories you have been doing has been wrong. If this is wrong what next?

[Fruit Ninja]

Remember guys that the hosts said that ze role list is randomized.

I hope they are not lying.

[Piano Tiles]

imo Kik is more scummy than Instagram.

Instagram

If you guys post explanations on who should be lynched and how that will benefit me then I will vote that person.

I would say kik due to it being possible SK. Then it ends up being 2 scums, 1 neutral, 3 towns. It creates vote block and lets you win with scums b/c they kill town then lynch last and survive. You also have to assume the scums to be dick and kill you if they know they will lose.

Also, when did they say it was randomized?

[Fruit Ninja]

The original setup post said it was randomized.

[Cut the Rope]

@Piano Tiles -- IMO 2048 is not a doctor but another role that will be quite hilarious. I don't hypothesize as to non scum roles without their permission.
Secondly, I call likely scum on you. If 2048 is likely the only remaining TPR twice, you have excluded yourself AND you have excluded yourself as being the last peaceful. If you aren't TPR and you aren't peaceful, you're likely scum. You can die now. I strongly believe in the lack of a doctor role in this game.



RULES AND MECHANICS
You will not know your RP name until you die
Days and Nights are 48 hours, unless I say otherwise
Mafia can talk to each other at night.
Be punctual about Night Actions. You can request me to remind you if necessary.
Use [vote] tags
Last Wills are allowed.
NO Death Notes -- scum fuck themselves over too much with this
A lynch requires at least 51% of living player's votes
No outside of game communication. This causes you and whoever you talked to to be replaced. Don't ruin it for someone else.
No autoplay.
No quoting PM's.
Invisible ink is allowed
Players list randomized, roles are randomized, role assignment randomized.
Ask in Green


Also from the 20000 times (not an official count) of times the word RANDOM is in the rule set.

@Fruit Ninja

1) Assuming you are not SK aligned:

-- Voting Instagram and removing the Serial Killer gives you the likely chance to pick the team to win at the end. I doubt anyone's really been putting effort into Hunger Games. I know my strategy was happiness building extreme once I revealed. It had to be to avoid getting boned by the scientist. The odds of anyone getting a gun are very low. Town probably would have shot someone already.

2) Assuming you are SK aligned and the SK is not Instagram (unlikely to me but whatever)

-- You are improving win con by voting for Instagram as either a mafia or townie will die making things better for the SK.

3) Assuming you are SK aligned and the SK is Instagram

-- I got nothing for ya here sorry.

4) Instagram has been doing the scummiest things all game. They have literally interrupted the flow of town or lied to town every single day. Kik would only have tried to paint a frame job on Quizup. Not very scummy. I have a hard time believing a Kik is scum argument there really wasn't anything to support one.

[Piano Tiles]

I still doubt it but if you think that i like to see it be wrong again.

Instagram

Also 4pic not getting feedback makes me doubt hes scum atm.

[Fruit Ninja]

Thor's Hammer has come to rain down death and destruction upon pacal.

Instagram

[The Godfather]

Instagram has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Angry Birds ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/12766') (1 [L-4]): Instagram ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=451784')
Instagram ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/12764') (5 [L-0]): Cut the Rope ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=451821'), Kik ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=451846'), 4pics1word ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=451841'), Piano Tiles ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=451896'), Fruit Ninja ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=451897')
Kik ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/12762') (2 [L-3]): Angry Birds ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=451763'), 2048 ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=451772')

[King Terenas Menethil]

NIGHT 5 - TEN FOR EFFORT

Instagram went crazy. His entire reign, he had dedicated himself to finding true peace on earth. Instead, the world had devolved into flames in front of him. He couldn't stand it anymore.

He took one last picture before ordering his men to tie him into a nuclear missile. He was fired off into a distant country.

Instagram was lynched. His role was Peaceful.

Instagram Left a Last Will.

Don't really expect to die tonight, but if I do here are my final thoughts.

Here is summary of the lynch trains so far and my reads on those on them.

Vine Train
Words with Friends, Cut the Rope, Kik, Quizup,Fruit Ninja, Temple Run, Angry Birds, Candy Crush Saga (Mayor)

Fall Down Train
Quizup,Clash of Clans, Instagram, Flappy Bird, Cut the Rope, 4pics1word, 2048, Temple Run

Temple Run Train
Fruit Ninja, Cut the Rope, Kik, 4pics1word, Angry Birds, Candy Crush Saga (Mayor)

I'd also like to propose Bloons TD for Doomsday Killer.


Living players [7]:
Kik
Angry Birds
2048
4pics1word
Cut The Rope
Fruit Ninja
Piano Tiles

Graveyard [13]:
Tapatalk - Cleopatra, Cultural (Died Night 1)
Vine - Pocatello, Peaceful (Lynched Day 2)
iFunny - Bismarck, Filibuster (Died Night 2)
Words with Friends - Montezuma, Witch (Died Night 2)
SnapChat - Washington, Lookout (Died Night 2)
Fall Down - Elizabeth, Detective (Lynched Day 3)
Flappy Bird - Kamehameha, Peaceful (Died Night 3)
Clash of Clans - Enrico Dandolo, Peaceful (Died Night 3)
Temple Run - Harun Al-Rashid, Peaceful (Lynched Day 4)
Candy Crush Saga - Augustus Caesar, Speaker (Died Night 4)
Quizup - Catherine, Jailor (Died Night 4)
Bloons TD - Alexander, Scientist (Died Night 4)
Instagram - Ramkhanhaeng, Peaceful (Lynched Day 5)


Night 5 will end at this time: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=July+4+5%3A00+PM+PST

[King Terenas Menethil]

THE END OF DAYS

http://lovepirate77.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/image.jpg
The remaining great countries bounded together in one last show of cooperation. Not for peace, but for more slaughter. The Hunger Games Colosseum was finally finished! Every country that contributed now has the capability to build a vest for defense during the war. The top contributor will receive a special edition Hunger Games pistol. Congratulations to Quizup! The pistol will be buried at your grave.

At the dawn of the day, Delhi, Cusco, and Atilla's Court lay in a pile of charred rubble. Even the ones who were bunkered down in fallout shelter were eviscerated. Many inferior city-states were also obliterated by nuclear blasts. It was clear there wasn't going to be any winner when the dust settles.

Cut The Rope was a casualty of war (Warmongers). His role was Coroner.



Well...The entire game....really can be summarized....by three little words...
What the fuck???

I'll start with the simple stuff. 2048 and 4pics1word are town to me. If on the off chance they are scum, they looked so town in the last two days that they deserve the victory. This necessarily makes the remaining scum inside of Kik, Angry Birds, and Piano Tiles. To be honest, I'm hoping Instagram was an actor, because if they aren't my heart is breaking in half. If they are an actor, go after Kik for 2048's request. Gun to my head, if Instagram was an actor, Angry Birds is the probably last town even though they didn't hammer Instagram, but that's only because of Piano Tiles's slip.

And seriously...I have figured out how to break the PM system on night 4 with having that long of a last will. Therefore, since a lot of it was pretty fucking...well wrong I'm not going to include it in this last will. If scum leaves me alive again I want to murder them because of how long I've spent on last wills.

The rest of this will be letters to my living brethren and to the dying colleagues I soon shall meet and actions at the end.




If I'm dead, then mathematically one of you should still be alive unless the SK wants to bone themselves. At least one of you should ESPECIALLY be alive if Instagram was an actor. Go win the game for town through some miraculous gambit please. Again I think town really fucked ourselves over on day one because NONE of scum suggested fake plans. *Cries a bit inside* When town bones themselves over that much it pretty much fucks with my reads the rest of the game and me being a tunneler, well..............yeah :(

Sorry to you both and feel free to destroy my grave in anger.






*Tips hat* I think you actually did play more town than most and deserve kudos here. You actively lurked and coasted beautifully. This is an example of how to play scum that should be framed and taught in how to be scum 101 classes. Damn it!





Congratulations! You managed to be scum fuck and make it to the end game with less than 20 posts (10 as of the time of this last will)...Can someone check to see if that is a record??? Seriously!






Please make the ending interesting and do not hammer right away. This game has been made with so much hilarity and screw up that there should be an ending that makes us all laugh. :) You were right you got through a lot of this game when IMO you shouldn't have either but bleh.






Now that Instagram is dead you are probably the SK. I know your slow posting was probably due to RL like you said but that's the only role you can have that really makes sense with the setup and you not being a TPR and not being a peaceful. Nice work on keeping yourself hidden. I seriously thought with that troll you were probably town but now it just doesn't add up.





I seriously want to know who you are after the game. Usually my day 1 math catches at least one scum :( This is the first time in at least 15-20 games that day 1 math did not catch at least one mafia (most NOT online, hence catching up with terms and acronyms like most people here know) *whimpers*. I want to see how you broke my system so I can fix it and to know if you had night 0 prechat.




**To the dead**



Great WiFoM introduction on the last will. That's a brilliant last will to leave as scum. :) Damn you! Good play here too. :evil:






You were right I was wrong. You are still the expert and you didn't lie. *bows at her feet* (assuming you are who I think you are you are female)

Post reasons please and let me see what you see...It's really hard to follow your arguments when you play like this. You have one of the most brilliant fucking minds in mafia...Just let me in to see it. I didn't understand a single reason why Kik was scum. ;(;(;(;(;( I mean I reread it like 10 times to try but I seriously only got WTF which is why you stayed on my scum radar. Usually I at least understand part of them but maybe it was the number of players or having to keep track of so many numbers that caused me not to see it. I don't know. I honestly don't know anymore.






OMG...We have got to work on your lying skills. If you are going to lie THAT much and be town it's gotta not be so obvious you are lying. Don't claim the one role that would have obviously ended up in a different end game result *sigh* and look at the mechanics and preplan your fake claims. You've looked at the mechanics for your sheriff gambit obviously...Just daaaaaaaaaaamn. When only one fucking sentence is the truth in 5 days of mafia, I kinda want wonder if you have an addiction to lying that you had to get out during this game, like kleptomania but for lying.

Seriously you also have to get your head out of your butt about me being potential scum before I do anything scummy. You are the one player I know that has a constant insistence to label me as scum every time we play. OMG get over it. I know I tunneled you the entire game but I had reasons due to the continuous lying and gambiting and fucking over town shit. You can't read me worth shit, and you know how my reads work and why from that point on you were scum to me. DAMN IT! I have never drawn scum when you play with me...well EVER. *facepalm* Stop tunneling me for no damn reason please. I almost didn't think it was you until the words "butt hurt" came into play. :P You're the only player I know of that uses the phrase.

You deserve mafia MVP for all your lying and fucking over town. There is still one last chance that you were an actor but knowing my luck this game we're all boned anyway and the SK will kill two townies and leave me with two mafia scum and the SK to determine the game. There's no reason for me to spend a power on it because we will know from the night kills.

At least I got my revenge...







We got pwned. That cross kill of both of you fucked me over. :( I really needed on safety guard to not go off the deep and and both of you dying was baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

Save me some ice-cream for the afterlife.





We got played....badly. It was enjoyable to be this badly fucked though. And that's part of the point of mafia to enjoy it win or lose.

Oh and one more piece of advice to town: DO NOT FUCKING LIE!!! AND IF YOU DO AT LEAST LIE BETTER AND/OR LEAVE A BREAD CRUMB AS TO WHY (LIKE 2048 did) ! SERIOUSLY! I find and scumify liars. Most liars to me are scum fuck.

That being said this is quite possibly one of my worst games of mafia...ever :(
Can I get a do over and pretend this never happened? Like pretty please?

*Will spend the after life as a zombie until she finds vanilla icecream or a game eraser to hide the insanity that was this*

Hint: This is a really long I'm sorry :(. But lynching Instagram felt awesome :)





1) N1 did nothing -- Started RA
2) N2 TapATalk Both powers -- Finished RA, 4 World Congress
----This if TapATalk didn't visit the people said would have confirmed a filibuster and a scientist. Oddly enough a scientist was in the game like I thought mechanics and undercurrent said. Probably a filibuster too. It's just they didn't combine for hijinks on that night XD.
3) N3 Did only regular power Fall Down -- 6 towards Mass Entertainment (I suspected my scientisting was likely here so I did not use both powers. Because Instagram fucking did their gambit this caused me to not have an additional day to investigate and had to go after Temple Run. I was playing like a peaceful to hide my power role. Outing it that early seriously boned my play. AGAIN FUCK YOU INSTAGRAM!!!!!)
4) Since high happiness at this point, tried to use vest (wasn't sure if had one), Used both powers on Fall Down -- Finished Mass Entertainment
5) Since high happiness still and the scum to keep me around because of my shitty reads, I decided to try to use a gun to kill Kik if I had it. To be honest I waffled between that and a special power on Words With Friends because my happiness is so high I could easily use it again but meh. -- 6 towards Hunger Games.




Angry Birds was a casualty of war (Doomsday). His role was Peaceful.

This is my last will.
Cut the Rope-very convincing player, but highest likelihood of being scum (if Instagram flips town, i'll be almost positive)
Kik-tied with Rope for top suspect
4pics-possibly scum...? (watching for NK)
Piano Tiles/Fruit Ninja/Instagram-??? (my guess is either they or i will be killed N5, the ones who are peaceseekers)
2048-no real reason to suspect, leaning town
4pics1word was a casualty of war (Doomsday). His role was Espionage.
Living players [4]:
Kik
2048
Fruit Ninja
Piano Tiles

Graveyard [16]:
Tapatalk - Cleopatra, Cultural (Died Night 1)
Vine - Pocatello, Peaceful (Lynched Day 2)
iFunny - Bismarck, Filibuster (Died Night 2)
Words with Friends - Montezuma, Witch (Died Night 2)
SnapChat - Washington, Lookout (Died Night 2)
Fall Down - Elizabeth, Detective (Lynched Day 3)
Flappy Bird - Kamehameha, Peaceful (Died Night 3)
Clash of Clans - Enrico Dandolo, Peaceful (Died Night 3)
Temple Run - Harun Al-Rashid, Peaceful (Lynched Day 4)
Candy Crush Saga - Augustus Caesar, Speaker (Died Night 4)
Quizup - Catherine, Jailor (Died Night 4)
Bloons TD - Alexander, Scientist (Died Night 4)
Instagram - Ramkhanhaeng, Peaceful (Lynched Day 5)
Cut The Rope - Gandhi, Coroner (Died Night 5)
Angry Birds - Pachacuti, Peaceful (Died Night 5)
4pics1word - Atilla, Espionage (Died Night 5)

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Apocalypse will commence at this time: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=July+5+5%3A00+PM+PST

[King Terenas Menethil]

From this point on, night phases will end as soon as I get all night actions. Please be absolutely sure when sending in night actions, as you might not get a chance to edit them.

[2048]

HA! I got it right. I chose 4pics1word as my second Great Pyramids partner thinking he was mafia.

[2048]

What sucks is..... Every time I chose a Pyramid partner, that very night my partner died.

The night before last, Quizup was my partner. I released my identity to him. My only proof of that is my scum read from him turned to a possible town read in his last will.

Last night I had 4pics1word as my partner....not much information was shared....as was busy....

[2048]

So we have a four way, 1 Town, 1 Researcher, 1 SK, 1 Mafia.... any theories to throw out?

[2048]

So it's going to be a group decision on who is going to win this game. Fruit Ninja, you are the only one I can trust the most know, although I've always had hopes for you. I think you are going to be the decision maker in anything.

Of the 4 players, should be safe to say only 3 need to be lynched: 2048, Piano Tiles, and Kik. Fruit Ninja, it's pretty much on you to decide. Are you still true neutral, Jester, or SK sided?

[2048]

Well, I know Fruit Ninja is not Jester.

[2048]

skip

[King Terenas Menethil]

Day opening edited.

[Fruit Ninja]

All right you mother fuckers if ANY of you want to win you claim real roles.

Town has pretty much no chance.

[Fruit Ninja]

And yes I am true neutral, but that can change in one night.

[2048]

Well I am the remaining town peaceful.

I believe Kik is the last Mafia and Piano Tiles is SK.

[2048]

Either way, the only person not enemies with each other is Fruit Ninja. So I think claiming was pointless.

[Piano Tiles]

2048

we need to lynch

[2048]

Well any lynch = town lose. Town's only chance is for no lynch to happen.

[Piano Tiles]

Well any lynch = town lose. Town's only chance is for no lynch to happen.

That includes skip day.

it this atm: SK, Mafia, Neutral, Town

Also whats stopping SK or Mafia from killing neutral to cost him his win? We lynch today.

[Fruit Ninja]

Town lynch = sk kills warmonger, sk wins
SK lynch = warmonger kills town. Warmonger wins
Warmonger lynch = SK kills town, SK wins
No lynch = SK attacks town or mafia, SK or mafia wins.

IDK who to lynch.

[Piano Tiles]

Town lynch = sk kills warmonger, sk wins
SK lynch = warmonger kills town. Warmonger wins
Warmonger lynch = SK kills town, SK wins
No lynch = SK attacks town or mafia, SK or mafia wins.

IDK who to lynch.

Your understand the fact that all 4 can also end with them attacking you? That's why there needs to be lynch today.

[Piano Tiles]

Plus your wincon states you can only win with Town or Warmongers unless you made it change. SO for you to win there needs to be a hit on sk.

[Fruit Ninja]

If there is a no lynch, I am able to switch my alignment to SK, there for winning.

But because of piano tiles behavior I am assuming that he is warmonger, that leaves kik being the sk.

kik

[2048]

There is still a chance for Town to win if there is no lynch

[2048]

However if I die, that also means Fruit Ninja will die due to the peaceful lynch mechanic.

[Piano Tiles]

i want to hammer

[Piano Tiles]

2048, if your town, lets have a gentleman agreement to let FN decide victor?

[2048]

2048, if your town, lets have a gentleman agreement to let FN decide victor?

I don't like that coming from the SK....

[Piano Tiles]

I don't like that coming from the SK....

If you wont vote, then we can just lynch you.

2048

If kik is not sk and is mafia/peaceful. SK gets double kill anyway.

[King Terenas Menethil]

Please do not post in the chatbox.

We are letting this one slide but if we catch anyone else, it will result in a modkill.

[Kik]

Since any lynch guarantees a town loss, I am perfectly fine with skipping the day and letting things play out as they will.

skip

[Piano Tiles]

kik

[Piano Tiles]

btw no lynch garenteeds the loss of sk and neutral.

[2048]

btw no lynch garenteeds the loss of sk and neutral.

That is very untrue and you know it. If anything, the neutral has the best chances over anyone as long as we don't lynch him. The next one after him would be the SK.

[Piano Tiles]

That is very untrue and you know it. If anything, the neutral has the best chances over anyone as long as we don't lynch him. The next one after him would be the SK.

Nah, I know better as well. You don't see the bigger picture.

[Kik]

It doesn't look like a lynch is happening, so can we just skip day instead of waiting another 9 hours? I'll wait if I must, but it seems like a waste of time.

[Piano Tiles]

It doesn't look like a lynch is happening, so can we just skip day instead of waiting another 9 hours? I'll wait if I must, but it seems like a waste of time.

Were gonna wait. I am on break atm but I would like to talk with you before day is over will you be on in about 4 and half hrs? I have a proposition for you as well if your SK.

[2048]

Were gonna wait. I am on break atm but I would like to talk with you before day is over will you be on in about 4 and half hrs? I have a proposition for you as well if your SK.

So you don't claim SK, but Mafia instead?

[Kik]

So you don't claim SK, but Mafia instead?

Looks that way.

[2048]

Looks that way.

So then are you SK?

[Kik]

So then are you SK?

I am Indeed.

[Piano Tiles]

I am Indeed.

kik, heres my offer, im technacly in a position to lose, however i can cause you to lose also.

ToNight: I am not going to kill. Therfor you have the option of
A) killing me
B) killing town
C) killing neutral
D) no action

Heres what Happens in each

A) kill me= SK,Town,Neutral. Where Neutral can betray you if he dosn't change
B) kill town= SK, Me, Neutral. Same situation but with me.
C) kill neutral= SK, Me, Town. King's game where Town decides who wins.
D) no action = we just sit here again....

So the question is, do you want to leave it up to luck of the neutral? Or the luck of town?

2048/Ninja: Don't spoil who you would side with in this scenario. I like to build anticipation.

So kik, your move (BTW im fairly confident i know who you are now)

[Piano Tiles]

However theres another:

2048 lynches you. I made him an offer that i will opt for a no-kill on him if he does and leave this for it to be decided by neutral.

[Kik]

You cannot cause me to lose. If town (2048) were to go along with that plan and lynch me, he would not be able to trust that you would not simply kill tonight and ensure your win, so I doubt he would go for that plan. And even if he did trust you, Fruit Ninja (assuming his win condition has not yet changed) could win with either of you, and I'm willing to bet he would side with mafia over town. I'm just guessing now, but I'm fairly sure that 2048 would agree with this assessment (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, 2048).

[Kik]

You cannot cause me to lose. If town ( 2048 ) were to go along with that plan and lynch me, he would not be able to trust that you would not simply kill tonight and ensure your win, so I doubt he would go for that plan. And even if he did trust you, Fruit Ninja (assuming his win condition has not yet changed) could win with either of you, and I'm willing to bet he would side with mafia over town. I'm just guessing now, but I'm fairly sure that 2048 would agree with this assessment (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, 2048 ).

Damn smilies... Fixed.

[Piano Tiles]

Well its 100% true b/c i have negative happiness right now so it is impossible for me to do a factional kill.


Warmongers: If anyone on your team is at or above 3 Unhappiness, the Warmongers may not perform a factional night kill.

I have been running just about all of them so i am at -3 atm. I was not checking my happiness and recently found this out.

[Piano Tiles]

So if he lynches you it goes to neutral decision. Otherwise we just have an endgame where you will lose.

[Kik]

I see no reason why your word on that would be any more trustworthy than anything else you say. But even if it was, like I said, it's pretty obvious who the neutral would side with between scum and town.


Otherwise we just have an endgame where you will lose.

We shall see.

[Piano Tiles]

Again 2048 is our decider, I can't kill. You can kill anyone here but it ends all the same, with your loss. I'm sure of this.

[Piano Tiles]

If its scum on scum though, who would he side with? He already appears to still have same wincon as he did from start.

[2048]

*sighs* I hate these kinda endings... Piano, I am going to decide to let Fruit Ninja to have the final say since he is after all the neutral party.

I all honesty, I doubt you will not take an action tonight because that could possible go against your win condition by lower your chances to win.

If you will still go with the gentleman's game of letting the Researcher make the call then, all game. That is what I am going with.

Overall everyone, take say this was quite a good game, but it certainly kept me busy.

Kik

[The Godfather]

Kik has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Skip Day (1 [L-2])Kik ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=452061')
Kik ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/12762') (3 [L-0]): 2048 ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=452113'), Piano Tiles ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=452069'), Fruit Ninja ('http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=452047')

[King Terenas Menethil]

CRISIS AVERTED....?

The day was long and hard; every leader was at their end. Political repercussions demolished each of their reputations and left no hope for them to come out of this war in power.

So Kik drank and drank himself to the brink of insanity. He could barely walk or speak now. Nuclear shells were raining on his capital city. All he could do was lay back and remember.

Remember all of those premeditated murders. Remember how he cut the head off of Quizup and BloonsTD as they were screaming and pleading for mercy.

The thoughts of his murders snapped him back to reality. He had a job to do, and it wasn't completed yet. He was in Korea, looking to end the Researcher's studies. Without technology, the world would have to come to an end. He grinned an evil grin, and picked up his bottle to continue the task.

It took about an hour to find him. The coward. All he had was his stupid books and precious little experiments. Kik shots the beakers around the lab as the Researcher began to beg for his life. He paid no mind to the incoherent sobs coming from his victim's mouth as he took one last gulp before aiming the gun.

A shot rang out -- but it wasn't from his gun. Kik felt the bite of the cold steel on his back, and it was the adrenaline that gave him strength to turn around. Wu Zetian had shot him in the back. Before he could react or say anything, she emptied the rest of the clip into him.

He hit the ground the same time as his bottle.

Kik was lynched. His role was Doomsday Killer.



Night will end when hosts receive night actions and finish the Epilogue. Most likely 1-2 hours from now.

[King Terenas Menethil]

EPILOGUE - A NEW PEACE

With the body of the DDK on the floor, both Wu Zetian and Sejong began to calm down for the first time since the war. Suddenly, Sejong began to have spasms and writhe all over the floor. He began shrieking maniacally, as if he was a Jester.

Wu didn't know what to do. Sejong then stood up with a grin and a shard of broken glass from the DDK's bottle.
"DDK is love," he says. "DDK is life."
He raised the shard to slit her throat but his head let out a mighty roar as it evaporated and sprayed blood everywhere.

Wu looked up. Atilla had come to her rescue. She began to thank him profusely, but he stared back silently. His stare was burning fear back into her, as he whispered "This is my world."

He raised the shotgun and finished his job.

Fruit Ninja was rekt last night by Atilla. His role was Jester.
Wu Zetian was endgame'd by Atilla. His role was Peaceful.

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE MAFIA FOR WINNING MFM 23: 4PICS1WORD, PIANO TILES, BLOONS TD, WORDS WITH FRIENDS

AWARDS CEREMONY!

MVP goes to Kik/Gerik! Traditionally, MVP is divided into Most Valuable Town and Most Valuable Scum in MFMS and FMS. But what if I told you this game's MVP was both? Kik, you are unanimously voted MVP for wrecking face in the day chat and keeping a perfect equilibrium of scum/town ratios in the night. You would have won were it not for a mistake on your ally's part. Nonetheless, you played amazingly well and it was a pleasure to read your thoughts at night.

DOUBLEPLUSGOOD goes to Candy Crush Saga/Bahkieh! We all know the Mayor is a confirmable role. Hit the switch, PM the hosts, whatever, and you're now known to the entire Town as a good guy. Candy Crush Saga decided that level of confirmation wasn't enough and he decided to stack up all of his productions into the ETC project in order to get a chance to be confirmed. He was tied with 6 other people for it, so there was a less than 15% chance he'd get it. Nonetheless he took the risk and IT PAID OFF! He was confirmed Town by random.org without having to reveal himself. I considered rerolling, but that would have been unfair. He revealed himself a day later, creating a shitstorm and enraging the town, but hey at least no one thought he was scum.

THE CAST!
Lovely hosts: Orpz and Powerofdeath
http://puu.sh/9Yg4P/7504ba90be.png

Who was your favorite player?
Mathblade was mine, I enjoyed her play in the day chat and hearing her thoughts at night. Even though most of the scumhunting was wrong, it was the effort and activity that landed her a spot in my hosting heart.

[Piano Tiles]

I kept my promise to not kill 2048 and I also let the neutral decide the outcome...

He decided this game by dying...

[King Terenas Menethil]

Also, Fruit Ninja was converted to DDK's alignment on night 2.

He was feedback blocked, so he didn't know what X was or his new alignment.

HOWEVER, it was entirely possible to figure out because he had chosen to target 3 people that night, and he was feedback blocked, meaning the Drug Dealer visited him, making X at least 4.

[Kik]

I kept my promise to not kill 2048 and I also let the neutral decide the outcome...

He decided this game by dying...

Yeah 2048 was stupid to trust you. It was an obvious lie. I had more than -3 happiness and I killed every single night, not to mention the double kills. And 2048 should've known that even if you were telling the truth, there's no way he would win. I consider that borderline gamethrowing.

And the researcher actually was on my side, and the hosts made it obvious to him that this was the case, but he still voted against me...

So I basically lost because of a double gamethrow. Fantastic.

[King Terenas Menethil]

Night Chat is available to everyone now!

www.powerofdeathx.freeforums.org

[King Terenas Menethil]

You may vote for Player's Choice Award!

[Words with Friends]

This is where I absolutely disagree with the hosts here. It wound up not mattering but FN should have been aligned with the warmongerers and town. We witched FN n2 which should have blocked any other visits in the setup. Thus, scum should have all got +2 happiness but the mods disagreed and said witching only works on the first action despite no indication in the setup.

Kik's play was very good. I can't blame him for reacting the way he did. His ally didn't know he was his ally.


This game was lost for the town when they didn't lynch Fruit Ninja. Giving Kik 2 KPN repeatedly cuz derp was insane. It also made the game much shorter than intended probably.

[Words with Friends]

Town MVP: Clash of Clans, he did a pretty good job of solving the game. He had most of the scum as scum by the time he died but he had 4pics as town.
Scum MVP: Piano Tiles, he subtly guided Cut the Rope to mislynches knowing her com, so she'd take the heat. Well played. Needed more troll. Of course, any ika needs more troll.
Overall MVP: Kik, Kik would have won if not for bad breaks. Of course, he had some lucky ones hitting one scum every night he had two kills. His play was objectively the best, although scum put in a good performance as well.

Town did an excellent job of eating itself with scum's help. This was another #honestscum. I figured Cut the Rope knew my com so I distanced. Turns out, she didn't but it looks organic enough.

[Kik]

Thanks for hosting PoD and Orpz. 'twas a good game.

Here are some of my thoughts on the game:

I have learned from this game that I dislike the concept of a role with a dynamic win condition. I think a big part of mafia is assessing how other players will act, and in order to really do that you must know every role's win condition. The challenge then becomes figuring out which players have which roles. Having a role with an unknown win condition makes it so that even when you know the player has that role, they are still impossible to predict, which means you can't reliably plan your actions around them.

I did, however, enjoy the mechanic wherein a citizen lynch gave the sk a double kill. And no, it's not just because I was the sk :p. I think it was cool that the game had a mechanic which actively discouraged lynching citizens, because I've played many games in which citizens felt they had to claim power roles in order to not get mislynched because claiming citizen led to an "oh well, we won't lose much if we're wrong" kind of mentality that pushed people to lynch them anyway. So this mechanic actually made the lynch of a power role preferable in some cases, which was cool.

As to the happiness/production mechanic, it was an interesting one, but I'm not sure how much it added to the game. Even though I killed every night and performed 3 additional kills, I still would have ended the game with positive happiness if I lived another night. So any other role should have easily maintained positive happiness. I think it ended up being a gate on production spending rather than a gate on night actions. Then again, some of the production stuff was pretty powerful, so maybe that was the intention all along.

I also thought my +3 happiness perk was bit weak compared to the others (namely TPRs and Warmongers). All the other ones were useful regardless of the game state, but mine only was useful if the researcher was alive. And even then it proved useless because the researcher was publicly known on day 2. It might have been a bit better if I would also have learned his win condition/get updates on it if it changes, but it wouldn't have mattered much in this game, since every time I was about to get 3 happiness, I got a double kill and had to spend it all.

[King Terenas Menethil]

This is where I absolutely disagree with the hosts here. It wound up not mattering but FN should have been aligned with the warmongerers and town. We witched FN n2 which should have blocked any other visits in the setup. Thus, scum should have all got +2 happiness but the mods disagreed and said witching only works on the first action despite no indication in the setup.

Kik's play was very good. I can't blame him for reacting the way he did. His ally didn't know he was his ally.


This game was lost for the town when they didn't lynch Fruit Ninja. Giving Kik 2 KPN repeatedly cuz derp was insane. It also made the game much shorter than intended probably.

Well, we made it similar to how witch witches the bus driver. You couldve asked us if you weren't sure.

[Words with Friends]

Oh I forgot, Honorable Mention to Fruit Ninja. Yeah you didn't know your wincon changed but you did an excellent job of playing to your wincon as you believed it to be. It was insanely difficult to live to the last day when outed as "not town".

Kik, killing me early on really nerfed scum in production. I was supposedly the face and production planner. Our production went a little haywire allowing town to pick up wonders and what not after I died.

United Nations, I'm not asking you questions about what the plain text of the rule clearly supports my position. Y'all are busy people and I throw a lot of questions, but the witch PM you used means it stops all actions by the target but for the witched action.

[Kik]

Eh, I don't think the setup implies that the witch prevents the target from visiting anyone.

Witch Role card:

At night, you may visit a player and force them to visit another player. There will be feedback for the witched. 3 usages.

Force them to visit another player only implies that you get to make them visit one person, not that you also can prevent them from visiting other people.

[Words with Friends]

Kik, you're forgetting the common sense definition of the word "force". Forcing someone to do something naturally includes preventing them from doing what you don't want to do. It's not much "force" on a Sheriff if a witch doesn't stop the Sheriff from checking his original target. To say that a party with multiple targets still visits some of them is arbitrary and makes no sense with a role that forces others to do what it wants.

[Kik]

Oh I forgot, Honorable Mention to Fruit Ninja. Yeah you didn't know your wincon changed but you did an excellent job of playing to your wincon as you believed it to be. It was insanely difficult to live to the last day when outed as "not town".

He had all the information to know his win condition. He should have known what it was. Furthermore, I can't say I agree that he "did an excellent job" since he acted so scummy that he had to claim on day 2, then proceeded to lurk while everyone ignored him.



Kik, killing me early on really nerfed scum in production. I was supposedly the face and production planner. Our production went a little haywire allowing town to pick up wonders and what not after I died.


Fun fact: I almost killed Quizup instead of you that night because I thought Quizup was mafia too. But in the end I figured I could get him lynched, so I decided to kill you instead.

[King Terenas Menethil]

He had all the information to know his win condition. He should have known what it was. Furthermore, I can't say I agree that he "did an excellent job" since he acted so scummy that he had to claim on day 2, then proceeded to lurk while everyone ignored him.


Fun fact: I almost killed Quizup instead of you that night because I thought Quizup was mafia too. But in the end I figured I could get him lynched, so I decided to kill you instead.

Fun Fact: on the day where town rush lynched Fall Down at the last minute, QuizUp had you jailed and ready to execute.

[Kik]

Kik, you're forgetting the common sense definition of the word "force". Forcing someone to do something naturally includes preventing them from doing what you don't want to do. It's not much "force" on a Sheriff if a witch doesn't stop the Sheriff from checking his original target. To say that a party with multiple targets still visits some of them is arbitrary and makes no sense with a role that forces others to do what it wants.

I get what you're saying, but tbh this is a pretty standard iteration of the witch. In most (if not all) FMs I've played in which a witch was possible, the witch could only alter the first target of its victim.

The hosts probably should have specified this to be safe, but I think most people assumed it would work as the hosts intended it to work. Next time if something isn't specified, instead of assuming you know how it works, just ask. I ask seemingly obvious/stupid questions to hosts about my role all the time because if something is not stated explicitly I'd rather ask a seemingly dumb question and be 100% sure of how my role operates than make an assumption and get burned for it.

[Kik]

Fun Fact: on the day where town rush lynched Fall Down at the last minute, QuizUp had you jailed and ready to execute.

Heh. I wasn't even on that train...

[Words with Friends]

Kik, he absolutely did not, especially if his interpretation of the witch role mirrored mine. Yeah, he had a rough start but he had an excellent end game. Sometimes lurking was the best strategy. I didn't "take over" the town like I normally do because the town was doing such an excellent job for scum anyway there was no need. If FN lurked too hard and town had doubts, he was dead. There was a fine line and FN walked it relatively well.

Your game was easier Kik in one way because you were effectively immune to the mafia kill. FN lacked that immunity. Even when outed, there was always a chance FN could side with the town or DD.

I still don't think FN played better than you (the start was bad) but he still did a decent job.

[Words with Friends]

I get what you're saying, but tbh this is a pretty standard iteration of the witch. In most (if not all) FMs I've played in which a witch was possible, the witch could only alter the first target of its victim.

The hosts probably should have specified this to be safe, but I think most people assumed it would work as the hosts intended it to work. Next time if something isn't specified, instead of assuming you know how it works, just ask. I ask seemingly obvious/stupid questions to hosts about my role all the time because if something is not stated explicitly I'd rather ask a seemingly dumb question and be 100% sure of how my role operates than make an assumption and get burned for it.

To do what you're saying, I'd have to give the hosts hypothetical every night and say XYZ constantly. Hosts can't answer half of those questions anyway. It's not a bad assumption to assume roles work as stated in the text. A player shouldn't have to know the mod meta to pick up and play the game. The hosts can change mod meta. Plain text always trumps unless it leads to absurdities.

[2048]

Apo didn't trust Piano, but there wasn't many options.

[Kik]

Kik, he absolutely did not, especially if his interpretation of the witch role mirrored mine. Yeah, he had a rough start but he had an excellent end game. Sometimes lurking was the best strategy. I didn't "take over" the town like I normally do because the town was doing such an excellent job for scum anyway there was no need. If FN lurked too hard and town had doubts, he was dead. There was a fine line and FN walked it relatively well.

Your game was easier Kik in one way because you were effectively immune to the mafia kill. FN lacked that immunity. Even when outed, there was always a chance FN could side with the town or DD.

I still don't think FN played better than you (the start was bad) but he still did a decent job.

He didn't know he was witched thanks to the feedback block, so his interpretation of the way the witch worked is irrelevant. What he did know is that he chose to visit 3 people and someone blocked his feedback, meaning a 4th person must have visited him, thereby changing his win condition. I actually disagree with the hosts' decision to consider his win condition as feedback and not tell him that it changed, but this shouldn't have affected the game because he should have figured it out.

[Kik]

Apo didn't trust Piano, but there wasn't many options.

Your best option was to no-lynch and hope that me and the mafia killed each other at night.

You even said it yourself at the beginning of the day, then you voted for a lynch anyway. It makes no fucking sense.

[2048]

Your best option was to no-lynch and hope that me and the mafia killed each other at night.

You even said it yourself at the beginning of the day, then you voted for a lynch anyway. It makes no fucking sense.

That was my best option. However, Mafia and SK knew who each other were by that point. So that chance of survived ended right there.

[2048]

That was my best option. However, Mafia and SK knew who each other were by that point. So that chance of survived ended right there.

And that was my original plan.

[Kik]

That was my best option. However, Mafia and SK knew who each other were by that point. So that chance of survived ended right there.

Everyone knew who everyone was. There were only 4 players left, it was pretty obvious. What you should have hoped for, is that I wouldn't realize that killing mafia allowed researcher to betray me and win with you.

Not that I wouldn't know who it was. Especially since you claimed town at the beginning of the day.

[2048]

Everyone knew who everyone was. There were only 4 players left, it was pretty obvious. What you should have hoped for, is that I wouldn't realize that killing mafia allowed researcher to betray me and win with you.

Not that I wouldn't know who it was. Especially since you claimed town at the beginning of the day.

That would have only happened if Piano targeted you and failed.... Only if he was really stupid he would have targeted you. His best bet was to kill the Researcher in the end in case I was the SK

[Kik]

And for the record, Piano was obviously lying about negative happiness. I was about to explain this, but you had already voted. Though it should've been obvious anyway.

And to be honest you should have known that town was a lost cause anyway. because what would have happened that night is I would've killed Fruit ninja, then you would've had to decide the winner between me and mafia.

Instead you made the decision a day early and gave the win to the lurkiest fucking mafia ever.

[Kik]

That would have only happened if Piano targeted you and failed.... Only if he was really stupid he would have targeted you. His best bet was to kill the Researcher in the end in case I was the SK

No, you were obviously town. Attacking you would have been foolish. His best and only chance of victory was not killing and hoping you sided with him. In every other scenario, I would win.

[2048]

And for the record, Piano was obviously lying about negative happiness. I was about to explain this, but you had already voted. Though it should've been obvious anyway.

And to be honest you should have known that town was a lost cause anyway. because what would have happened that night is I would've killed Fruit ninja, then you would've had to decide the winner between me and mafia.

Instead you made the decision a day early and gave the win to the lurkiest fucking mafia ever.

Considering you had to better odds, it was best to go against you then. You were 1 v 1 v 2(but maybe didn't know it), but 1 still won.

[Kik]

Considering you had to better odds, it was best to go against you then. You were 1 v 1 v 2(but maybe didn't know it), but 1 still won.

No. Get this through your thick, empty skull: You had 0% chance of winning unless me and the mafia both did something really really fucking stupid. Since I am not a dumbfuck, that was not going to happen. So you had a 0% chance of victory. Your only job was to choose who won. The serial killer who basically is the only reason mafia didn't fucking annihilate town even though they lurked all fucking game, or the mafia who lurked all fucking game. You chose the mafia.

Now please stop talking. Your incompetence is starting to piss me off.

[2048]

No. Get this through your thick, empty skull: You had 0% chance of winning unless me and the mafia both did something really really fucking stupid. Since I am not a dumbfuck, that was not going to happen. So you had a 0% chance of victory. Your only job was to choose who won. The serial killer who basically is the only reason mafia didn't fucking annihilate town even though they lurked all fucking game, or the mafia who lurked all fucking game. You chose the mafia.

Now please stop talking. Your incompetence is starting to piss me off.

Lol, wtf?

Why are you getting so upset? Talk about butt sore

[Kik]

Lol, wtf?

Why are you getting so upset? Talk about butt sore

If you don't understand why a person would be upset that after investing a lot of time into a game, doing everything right, meticulously planning everything, and setting themselves up to win only to have victory taken from them at the last second due to the stupidity of two other people, and instead given to the faction that put in the least effort, who are also strong contenders for the worst faction ever in the history of this site, then I can't help you.

[Piano Tiles]

If you don't understand why a person would be upset that after investing a lot of time into a game, doing everything right, meticulously planning everything, and setting themselves up to win only to have victory taken from them at the last second due to the stupidity of two other people, and instead given to the faction that put in the least effort, who are also strong contenders for the worst faction ever in the history of this site, then I can't help you.

A lot of your complaining is very highly biassed. What about the old yayap fm where you were mafia and lost that? is that your falt also or everyone elses?

Just b/c someone else did something wrong, doesnt mean you are right.

Town cant win, so they can make someone else lose
neutral didnt know better due to drug hidden (and dont say he should of known)

You could of taken us out and then go killing all by yourself but instead you decided to leave it to us to try and do your dirty work (kills).

Did we lurk? yes but thats not really an exuse to say "we are the worst or its all our falt" or anyone elses for that matter. I was able to convince him to lynch you. Even if i didnt he didnt care. Look at the stuff we invested into our night chats. Yes some of it is filler stuff but we worked in calaborations.

Unless if you have a unanoums agreemnt on anything you have been comlainging about or suggesting, its all opinionated.

[Piano Tiles]

What about fm 18(?) where you got culted and "technacly" lost? what about cops and robbers M-FM where you got lynched? What about any fm (any size) you have been in? what makes tose any diffrent from this?

What about any other fm where scums lurked to victory? Porios game scums basicly did just that while town imploded. Whats their excuse?

[Piano Tiles]

is it unfair that we also had to get a replacement? What about FM20 where scums had an ENTIRE AFK scum but not modkilled due to them using him? you were bg there and you gave complaints. How come you didnt shit on them like you are doing here?

[Kik]

A lot of your complaining is very highly biassed. What about the old yayap fm where you were mafia and lost that? is that your falt also or everyone elses?

We deserved to lose on some level because my faction was mostly terrible. The only players who did anything useful were me and Clementine. However the town was also filled with lurkers who got themselves modkilled, so it was about even. I wasn't really upset by that loss.

Just b/c someone else did something wrong, doesnt mean you are right.

Town cant win, so they can make someone else lose
neutral didnt know better due to drug hidden (and dont say he should of known)
^"I am saying something that is easily refuted, so don't refute it" No. He should've known. He had all the information. He's an idiot.

You could of taken us out and then go killing all by yourself but instead you decided to leave it to us to try and do your dirty work (kills).
Not if I wanted to win. Killing you too fast would leave me extra vulnerable to things like roleblocks, since they would block 2 kills instead of one. Plus, I wouldn't have been able to maintain enough happiness to carry on for very long.

Did we lurk? yes but thats not really an exuse to say "we are the worst or its all our falt" or anyone elses for that matter.
Actually, yes it is. But even if it wasn't, you also did a lot of stupid things, like witching/drugging the researcher, changing his win condition from being on your side to on my side. You literally gave one of your allies to one of your enemies.
I was able to convince him to lynch you. Even if i didnt he didnt care. Look at the stuff we invested into our night chats. Yes some of it is filler stuff but we worked in calaborations.
Haven't had a chance to read through it yet, but I am very skeptical.

Unless if you have a unanoums agreemnt on anything you have been comlainging about or suggesting, its all opinionated.
I read through the dead chat briefly. It was pretty much unanimous that I was the only player in this game deserving of a win. And they had access to your night chat and still didn't think you deserved it. Even your mafia said I should win over you. So it basically was/is "unanoums".




What about fm 18(?) where you got culted and "technacly" lost?
I've never been culted in an FM.

what about cops and robbers M-FM where you got lynched?
Well there we no anon accounts, Damus got to choose his target (and chose me), and then for some reason the town decided to give an executioner a free win. But I accept partial responsibility for that as I for some reason couldn't convince anyone not to lynch me.
What about any fm (any size) you have been in? what makes tose any diffrent from this?
Well in the most recent FM, I was in a weird place mentally that made it probably the worst game I've ever played as far as my performance was concerned (the game itself was great), so I probably deserved to lose based on my merit alone, but the rest of the town did decently enough to pull out the win anyway.

What about any other fm where scums lurked to victory? Porios game scums basicly did just that while town imploded. Whats their excuse?
It wasn't the most active game for any of us, but saying we lurked to victory is still incorrect. Especially since one of our members had a death in their family and decided to keep playing anyway. Plus, the town in that game did pretty poorly.

Not that any of that is relevant to this game at all...

[Kik]

is it unfair that we also had to get a replacement? What about FM20 where scums had an ENTIRE AFK scum but not modkilled due to them using him? you were bg there and you gave complaints. How come you didnt shit on them like you are doing here?

I did shit on them. I also criticized the host for not modkilling the player who hadn't posted in like 5 days. They were horrible as well. It still doesn't mean this mafia was any less awful.

[Piano Tiles]

Not that any of that is relevant to this game at all...

These are comparsions im doing all you are kinda doing is sidestpping them as if they have no comparsion when many of them do. FMs history of games can be compared, in any game where scums kurked and won, or any game where scum(s) lost at endgame due to a vote of a faction that cant win, they cant be blamed. They are in a kingmaers game where no matter what they do its not going to help them unless the other faction wants to gamethrow.

Also on hunger games, thats besides the point. Wouldnt you say town did poorly here as well? You had one member who wanted to continue playing. Its a group as well. Think back to FM 20 as well where i was neutral. I made it late game only to be lynched. Was I mad? no. Again all you can do is really blame yourself. You were unable to convince 2048 to keep his vote off. I lied to get him to vote you.

And really, its only a game. Theres no need to grill everyone for your loss and grill the ones who won.

Lurking is a techincal legit stratagy, the fact you could of done the entire same thing is not our fault.

@next post: you contridict yourself then, you said we were "most awful" are you saying the team of FM20 was not as awful?

[Kik]

Town did do poorly in this game. I never said they didn't. But they at least had some good players that participated and tried to figure things out (Tapatalk, Clash of Clans, Snapchat, Flappy Bird). Those players were just killed quickly and the rest of the town was about as terrible as your mafia.

My point wasn't that town deserved to win this game; they didn't. But neither did you.

Your mafia and the orange mafia from fm 20 are about equally bad. Both had one player that did ok (Damus and titus, respectively) and 3 other players who did fuck all.

I'm not "grilling" anyone. I'm just calling out the two idiots/gamethrowers that caused it.

[Kik]

and by "it" I mean this travesty of an ending to an FM.

[Temple Run]

IMO 2048 should've let Kik won instead

half of the mafia has as much post as I do :P

[Piano Tiles]

Town did do poorly in this game. I never said they didn't. But they at least had some good players that participated and tried to figure things out (Tapatalk, Clash of Clans, Snapchat, Flappy Bird). Those players were just killed quickly and the rest of the town was about as terrible as your mafia.
Usally strong players get kill quick do then not?

also calling us as a whole was bad is really wrong tbh. Titus and louis (to a lesser extent) did quite well and were active

Also consider titus had more posts then you (excluding post game) is quite telling

WWF: 91
Kik: 89

Really if anyone did "bad" it would be nociz/me for day chat. But night chat is entirely diffren story


My point wasn't that town deserved to win this game; they didn't. But neither did you.
Well considering they imploded so hard, i woulnt say they did. We can argue on the latter of who "deserves it" till the end of time. so im not going to persue it

Your mafia and the orange mafia from fm 20 are about equally bad. Both had one player that did ok (Damus and titus, respectively) and 3 other players who did fuck all.
again, i would dissagre we ALL did bad, titus did good for what short time she had. Louis did meh as a replacemnt. If anything, i would say its me/nocitz (as already said)

I'm not "grilling" anyone. I'm just calling out the two idiots/gamethrowers that caused it.
Guess its POV then.
as for gamethrow
Neutral: i can see being gamethorw but again its debatable due to the lack of feedback
Town: you clearly stated they could not win, so its moot point to even consider them gamethrowing really

/tenchar

@new post: i think its more of you setting high standard and you expect all players to play at your skill level. At least thats what im taking from it, you expect mafia/town/ect to always play to a super high expectation that you set and when they dont you say "bad job"

TL;DR Not every player is invested as you are nor do they always have time. I think your just expecting something that not everyone can do.

@temple run

WWF: most posts for only 2 days
4pic: inacive but was there
Bloon: had some good when subbed in
Me: i picked up near end-game

[Temple Run]

/tenchar

@new post: i think its more of you setting high standard and you expect all players to play at your skill level. At least thats what im taking from it, you expect mafia/town/ect to always play to a super high expectation that you set and when they dont you say "bad job"

TL;DR Not every player is invested as you are nor do they always have time. I think your just expecting something that not everyone can do.

@temple run

WWF: most posts for only 2 days
4pic: inacive but was there
Bloon: had some good when subbed in
Me: i picked up near end-game
I'm not saying mafia doesn't deserve a win, I'm saying that DDK probably deserves it more
There really should be a 1v1v1 tiebreaking system, though it doesn't apply to this game since there was fruit ninja

[Kik]

It's not about post count, it's about content (as evidenced by Quizup, who had the most posts, but still wasn't very useful to town). Titus had more posts than I did, but she also basically gave herself away as being mafia in the first 2 days.

I didn't post as often as I might have liked due to the limitations of having a full time job, but I made my posts count.

I don't expect players to play "at my skill level". I expect them to play the game they sign up for. Which means actually paying attention to it and investing some time/energy into it. If they can't do that, they should either not sign up, or in the case of an emergency/unforeseen circumstance, ask to be replaced. I said it in the FM 20 epilogue, and I'll say it again here: posting in day chat is the point of the game. At the most fundamental level, mafia is a game about talking with other people. You must either lie to them without getting caught, or figure out which people are lying. Everything else (roles, actions, night chats, mechanics, etc.) is just a means to that end. So if you're not posting in day chat, you're not playing the game, regardless of whether or not you're posting in a night chat.

[Cut the Rope]

Kik congratulations. You schooled me and did a great job. :) *bows to him*

This was my first time to play a game on this forum (and my first anonymous game) and it was a pleasure to try to figure out how people were acting without having a clue who was who. That being said I do agree with Kik on the whole posting thing. I think it's the main reason some of my numbers were off. I account for derpage but I don't really account for inactivity. And furthermore I agree with Kik's point of having a lot of posts. If anything I was detrimental to town because of well tunneling wrong.

I don't know about the whole should have known thing on the jester so I'm staying impartial to that, but IMO it was clear to me that Fruit Ninja was SK aligned as I pointed it out earlier and got most of the scum roles right. I just sucked at identifying who was which role.

It was a pleasure Kik and you got my player's choice as you did a great job deceiving most players. I enjoyed losing (even though I wanted to win so very badly) to the mafia and you.

[Bloons TD]

Lol.

I was only coming here to vote MVP on kik, but looks like I'm not going to.

For this arguement kik brought on, I'm full of respect.

However, posting is a policy can not be enforced without host.

So this is the policy, none of you should pursuit.

And therefore, doesn't worth kik's emotion and devotion on this matter.

I don't like the way kik be after the game, because it isn't suppose to be an arguement he should bring,

For he isn't among the top 5 day chat contributor, nor the faction heavily need to manipulate day chat to win.

so I'm not going to vote him MVP.

Great argument, but a waste of time and emotion.




For cuttherope,

If anyone wants to be talktive in day time, the person must be like you, otherwise they will die.

Scums literally are aiming at those most talktive people.

You were put at the last because you are wrong all the time.

So you are actually the person who did the right thing, and keep the game interesting.



For the victory.

I prefer to say kik being the victor with sympathy of a harder role.

However, the game is fair squared.

Despite that Melon boy's choice and 2048's, they are chosen to live to participate the ending scene.

Their choice is, literally, the outcome of the game.



As a backup, I hope I have brought you all a great show,

though my planned risky entertaining concussion lynch against Quizup and Cuttherope were not carried out.

[Bloons TD]

I'm voting
Tapatalk/Gyver


Dead, A Master of Game, The MVP.


He made the whole construction plan and literally and ultimately locked the game flowing.

He died fist, because he must die for his contribution and potential intellectual performance.


btw, I was hoping a non-lynch day and quizup execute kik.

[Bloons TD]

I hope more people vote Tapatalk, everyone is, using his architect after all.

[Bloons TD]

For anyone surprised at kik being able to take out 3 mafias, should calculate the total kills he had and literally,

he should be able to take out at least 2 people if he paid attention.

Still, congratulation for taking out all 3 of us, and almost the last one.

Btw, why didn't kik point out for Fruit Ninja that his alignment is......

It should be such an easy arguement to make.


And I hoped piano will crash fruit ninja for not be able to win....
(Ohhh... the joke is Dark.)

DIDN't Happen.

[Bloons TD]

For mafia's part, I literally tell you that Titus contributed the most.

The others and I are just pretty good at carry out her will.

For anyone thought Piano tile wasn't paying attention,

I tell you this,

That is the biggest lie he gave you this game.

And it worked well.

[Words with Friends]

If Piano couldn't get Kik lynched, the next best move was no lynch no kill and hope Kik shot wrong. Then just convince FN to lynch Kik the next day. Piano went with the more risky option FMPOV, but it worked.

All the outed production plans sucked. Scum got an extra two production and happiness for doing jackshit.

[Bloons TD]

That move doesn't exist, because piano already bluntly admit himself being mafia.

Or even if he didn't, kik knew he is the only option.


So Piano tile asked votes from 2048 and Meloninja directly.

Whatever motivations the two had, I can't comprehended.

Piano's honest move worked.


Let's say,

Piano is out of options.

He did the only thing he can --- to lynch kik.

He made it.


Outrageous but he made it.

Fruitninja gave piano tile 2 product, 2 happiness at the last night.

The result is retarded, but it is fair.

[Bloons TD]

more risky option FMPOV


It is even more riskier than my plan to lynch Quizup and Cuttherope.

But it fucking worked.

[Bloons TD]

But think about it, 2048 is also the only person kik would allow to live.

Quizup wants him dead, and kik is constantly voting Angery bird.

He picked the wrong person to begin with.

But it can not be helped.

[Bloons TD]

All the outed production plans sucked. Scum got an extra two production and happiness for doing jackshit.

I argue that, there is no better plan than that.

Assume town's intelligence can not work well if works separately without agreement.

[Bloons TD]

Hey, titus, since you are here.

How did you like me taking over your part and handling day chat after you were dead?

[King Terenas Menethil]

I would like to remind everyone that it is just a game, and you should always respect others people. Keep it clean. Thank you.

[Clash of Clans]

Good game all.

@Cut the Rope
I said somewhere I would lol with you after the game ends. It was when you said "you must have never played with me before." Heheh

In any case, it was fun. I have some thoughts on everyone but I'll post them in a few days.

I have to say I was rooting for Kik in the end.

And I honestly want to place a lot of blame on some of the absolutely lurking terrible town. I mean really, feel free to defend your playstyle but I'm judging you here.

[Clash of Clans]

Thank you very much to all the replacements that stepped in! We had what, 5 or 6 of them?

*grumble just remembered we lost key PRs to no-night-action-replacements like escort and detective, but what can you do? grumble*

[Words with Friends]

Hey, titus, since you are here.

How did you like me taking over your part and handling day chat after you were dead?

I think you did a pretty decent job of it. :) I think the scumteam as a whole played rather well. I really hope to play another scum game with you guys. This one was too short IMO.

[Fall Down]

Well, I couldnt do as much as I hoped for, but at least i knew 4pics1word was scum, that vote on me was so fucking obvious scum like god, I dont know how he survived lol. Anyway was fun at least i was able to troll a bit mid-game, since i had nothing to defend myself.^^ Oh yeah and I still hate Instagram, his sheriff fake claim caused all this. :D

[Cut the Rope]

I think Bloons did a great job. It was only when Kik shot him and I reviewed Bloons posts did I see their scumminess.

@Titus: I am still shocked you were Words with Friends. You got me good sis. I seriously thought you were Instagram :P I feel really bad for how blunt I was to shadows. *blush*

@Citrus: Yeah. That was pretty funny. When I looked back and saw who played what COM I was very surprised.

Overall thanks for the first game of mafia on this forum everyone.

[Cut the Rope]

@Fall Down: Thanks for doing what you thought you could do replacing in! I wish I could have seen the scumminess of 4pics and that they were buddying me lol. I should wear a big sign saying anyone who is my buddy is scum XD.

Although I also find it quite hilarious I was right and should have died the first day and the SK and scum both didn't target TapATalk according to mafia chat. I knew Titus tunnels me :P It is even that way before/during her replacing in XD (Teasing love ya sis)

[Words with Friends]

Except I didn't tunnel you. ;)

Yeah, you were a decent hit (not knowing how bad you screwed up). The original Blooms wasn't posting and the guy who died N1 had massive jailor crumbs. If Blooms was in jail, the only way to save him was to shoot the jailor. The prior blooms showed up like a minute before the deadline. You were the only player encouraging scumhunting. The rest was about mechanics. It turned out to be a fortunate accident that you lived.

[Fruit Ninja]

HOW THE FUCK DID I JESTER?

[Fruit Ninja]

Also, Fruit Ninja was converted to DDK's alignment on night 2.

He was feedback blocked, so he didn't know what X was or his new alignment.

HOWEVER, it was entirely possible to figure out because he had chosen to target 3 people that night, and he was feedback blocked, meaning the Drug Dealer visited him, making X at least 4.

God fucking damn it I could of fucking won by skipping day, I was totally prepared e d to fucking do that too. God am I pissed.

[Fruit Ninja]

I totally wanted that neutral MVP too.

[Fruit Ninja]

If I actually had my computer at my house and fucking internet then I could of had the time to analyze my feedback and day.