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  1. ISO #601

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Big Mom View Post
    Speculation on a subject, with no basis or reasoning, stated emphaticly the way you are presenting your demented accusations, is harmful to the town.
    I repeat. How would you know Straw's alignment and Bonney's role since Night 0, unless you are performing some kind of gambit, lies are harmful to the town, so you should stop before all credibility is shattered and irrevocably diminished.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Big Mom View Post
    Speculation on a subject, with no basis or reasoning, stated emphaticly the way you are presenting your demented accusations, is harmful to the town.
    I repeat. How would you know Straw's alignment and Bonney's role since Night 0, unless you are performing some kind of gambit, lies are harmful to the town, so you should stop before all credibility is shattered and irrevocably diminished.
    You've got a point, I have been a little lacking in my explanations for my accusations. I am now willing to explain the reasons behind any of my "Emphatic" "Speculations" which one would you like first?

  2. ISO #602

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    this is circumstantial, and possibly believable from his point of view, but people like Big Mom who discredit me saying "im vented" are actively trying to push down a confirmed town from being a leader. not that i necessarily want that much responsibility, but he won't even consider Big Mom.
    Why are you a confirmed Town, again?

  3. ISO #603

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Boa Hancock View Post
    Caribou CP9 Ventrilloquist?

    - typing in rp style in a game with a possible ventrilloquist.
    - thought Jones was a great player - implies he was a thread.
    - "He was obviously a great player" - implies he was a thread.

    You decide!

    Anyways you are in fact a middle fielder. Not the strongest contributor. You are posting just enough to look townish and then you leave again. A bit like Dracul if you ask me.

    Anyways the Electro thinks of you and Big Nom almost the same. That's why you got charged right?

    The difference is just that. FM Big Nom is a lot more active today than you are while you were more active Day 1.5 Why the change of heart? Also do you really think responding in that way was wise? It feels for me a bit overprotective. I didn't really accuse you of anything. I just put it into the room to think about.

    Sorry that i lack a night chat with others. I don't share a huge information bonus like 12 other people. I have to judge what i see and it's not as easy as it looks. This game is a pain out of a town perspective!
    Apologies if Caribou has a lot to deal with. You know, some of us have jobs and a lot of stuff to do.
    And yes; Caribou thinks it was wise. He post what he thought about it; anything wrong with that?

    And does it really matter if Caribou speaks in third person? Before the reroll, he also was.

    And Caribou feels your pain; he does not have a night chat either.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Roronoa Zoro View Post
    You've got a point, I have been a little lacking in my explanations for my accusations. I am now willing to explain the reasons behind any of my "Emphatic" "Speculations" which one would you like first?
    Why do you believe Bonney is not a journalist {since Day 1.5}?
    Why do you believe Bonney is still town despite {you believing that she is} false claiming?
    How do you know Straw's alignment?
    What town motivation do you have for stating that Straw is probably the doctor?
    H

  7. ISO #607

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    so instead.... we should ignore the rebel claims and have the marines deal with them. if they even have killers.

    "quote by black leg" :3: My suspect for CP9 is Zoro, he has done very little to nothing for the Town but try to divide the votes. He seems to be attacking Bonney as being the Ventro instead of being Ventro'd and seeks to push her off a cliff into a lynch.

    so.... we should go for zoro instead.
    Does this post seem odd to you?

  8. ISO #608

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    In case you guys didn't see how blatantly Basil dodged his roleclaim, he should be hung immediately. I have serious doubts this day will provide us with any more useful information, as we are running in circles given the current state of affairs.

    Here is my reason for the immediate lynch on Basil :
    Says he'll claim if 3 more people vote him.
    -> Once he comes back he simply dodges the question trying to prolong his claim.
    -> -> if you were town, would it not be simple to just roleclaim at this point?
    -> -> -> If you are scum and did not prepare a claim for a day as early as this, simply because you thought lurking will not make you stand out, wouldn't you need time to figure out a viable claim?
    ->->->-> Basil = scum, at least according to my thought process.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Capone Bege View Post
    Actually while I was at school, I kept thinking about Zoro's posts. I think I know his role claim, and if I'm right and he's not lying then it all makes sense now, and Bonney is 100% CP9, 80% Ventriloquist.

    This explains:
    -Bonney being able to decode her code
    -Bonney not revealing who she interviewed
    -Bonney insisting on calling herself confirmed Town and Town leader (scumtell)

    It will all be crystal clear tomorrow. I apologize that I keep pointing out stuff about other players when we are focused on someone else. It's how I adapt to the lack of last wills.

    For now,
    -vote FM Basil Hawkins
    Brilliant so what am I then.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Holy crap this took forever. I'm getting to the other questions, too.

    What's your opinion on Trafalgar Law and Eustass Kidd claiming rebel?
    Spoiler : Trafalgar Law: :

    #275
    I missed our dream-like Day 1. Discussions are much more easier to understand. I dislike accusations being hurled left and right. It is confusing. I think scum are trying to confuse us. I suggest that we pressure and lynch those who do not contribute and post the least after 24 hours has passed. I offer myself as temporary mayor to lead town.
    Wants to pressure and lynch non-contributors. I’ll monitor and see if he follows up on this. Also, the part about being a temporary mayor is weird.

    Rebel meter: I don’t see a rebel posting this, but the trolling might be effective in keeping a rebel leader under the radar.
    Jester meter: The part about the temporary mayor screams jester to me.

    #401
    Neutral Killer will only want to destroy Town. Neutral Killer can win with factions. I think that the factions will want to cooperate and contact Neutral Killer. Town should be careful. But how can we find Neutral Killer without investigative roles?
    Seems like there is some hidden message in this post, but I’m not really sure what it could be.

    Rebel meter: A rebel who wants to find the neutral killer and is asking about it?
    Jester meter: A jester who is trying to hint that the neutrals are dangerous (and not jester-y)

    #421
    Hi everyone. May I propose a strategy against disguiser? I have always wanted to try this for a long time. Eveyone should think about real words to be used as password and key to encrypt the password. For example, my password is "bestmafiaplayer" and my key is "win". Thus my code will be:

    bestmafiaplayer
    winwinwinwinwin
    yngqvocromuovnf

    It will also be useful against Ventriloquist. Happy coding.
    Proposes an anti-ventriloquist/disguiser strategy yet doesn’t follow up with this.

    Rebel meter: Rebels would want to come up with ways to combat the disguiser/ventriloquist since they have neither of those possible roles in their aligment.
    Jester meter: Low. This is actually quite useful (until he forgets to post a code himself -> jester meter: high)

    #424
    I hope to lead town. I promise to post more later when I have time. I'm not a lurker. Sanji is lying. I still think Kidd is up to no good. Scum always spam a lot of useless stuff to drown town discussion. Town should discuss how to find out the Neutral Killer. I think Neutral Killer is Arsonist.
    Posts this after Eustass posts his thing about the leaf. If Trafalgar is actually a rebel, then maybe he picked up on the stealth claim of rebel and was expressing his distrust of it?

    Rebel meter: Medium if he picked up on Eustass’s claim.
    Jester meter: The stream of conscious style of posting seems jester-y to me. He makes a bunch of claims that he doesn’t really elaborate on.

    #430
    I think we should not lynch lurkers since they might be recruited by Rebels. It is not good to make enemies of potential allies, even if we do not plan to ally with them. Similarly, we should not lynch trolls because Sogeking was a Marine last game and he trolled a lot. In fact I think we should not lynch anyone unless we have investigative results. Zoro and Hody were correct after all.

    -vote skip day
    A direct backtrack of earlier when he says we should pressure and lynch non-contributors. In this post he mentions the rebels which is a slight indication that he could be one.

    Rebel meter: Pro rebel to not lynch potential recruits.
    Jester meter: Backtracking on earlier stance which is jestery.

    #12
    See I told you Neutral Killer is Arsonist. Only a few believed me. That's why I said I should lead town yesterday. One of the active players is Arsonist. Factions will not reveal her since she is an ally. We should lynch some of the active players. She is hiding among town. We should choose Marines or Rebels and ally with them today before it's too late. They might choose to side with Arsonist if we delay anymore.
    Rebel meter: Says to choose between marines or rebels, which is in the rebel’s best interest to know where his faction stands with the town.
    Jester meter: Claims he should lead town and knows extra info about the arsonist. Jestery.

    #24
    You are just jealous that I am correct. I also hinted at CP9 that they shouldn't target lurkers and trolls. Now they killed both their allies. Nobody listens to me. You will lose sooner or later. I think we should side with Rebels, assuming that Rebels recruited active players and not lurkers. I think we should still skip day today. I suggested voting skip day yesterday and now town is going well.
    Rebel meter: Pro-rebel post, asking town to side with the rebels.
    Jester meter: wants to skip the day (very jester-y), tells the CP9 not to target lurkers and trolls which is directing traffic.

    #28
    I want to say that Ace is not my teammate. There cannot be ghost/jester because if there are Kidd or Wet is lying. Or there is Drug Dealer. And Drug Dealer is CP9. I think Drug Dealer will normally fake Escort than fake Neutral Killer. So I don't think they are drugged.
    Rebel meter: Really focused on the CP9, which is one of the Rebels’ main enemies.
    Jester meter: Insists that there could not be a ghost/jester to improve chances of getting lynched.

    #41
    Big Mom and Kidd might be teammates. I think they are faking Electromaniac. Because factions hate Electromaniac. Electromaniac can only kill factions and not town. I think Arsonist is more likely. Please stop being sexist.
    Rebel meter: I assume this means Big Mom and Kidd are CP9 faking EM? Focus on the CP9 seems rebel-y.
    Jester meter: The style of posting is really jestery, however the content is not. (low jester meter)

    #50
    Moria didn't read what I said. I claimed that there is an Arsonist since yesterday. I don't believe that there is an Electromaniac. If it is true, Electromaniac will be hunted by factions and will always lose.
    Seems like an insightful post.

    #59
    I thought bad roles are normally not added to games? That's why I don't think there is Electromaniac or Drug Dealer. Or Coroner.
    Swinging jester-y again.

    #321
    I didn't post because I'm busy. I'm Rebel Leader. My role didn't change. I think it is safe to claim since there is no Jailor or Witch. Marines might have found my role yesterday and want to get me lynched. CP9 is strong. You will need us to win. Doctor heal me please. Don't kill your ally. I still think there is an Arsonist and no Electromaniac. I will be back later. Remember to lynch some active players.
    Rebel meter: It’s basically suicide to claim if he really is the rebel leader since we don’t even know if there is or isn’t a jailor or witch in this game. For balance reasons I would assume the marines have a jailor/some kind of faction KPN which means that a claiming rebel is as good as dead. Really low probability of being rebel.
    Jester meter: Claims a role that will keep him safe at night from the pirate faction kill and the town lynch. Asks for a doctor heal to protect against CP9. This is a role that is easily CC’ed, which is bait for the real rebel leader to reveal and get him lynched.


    Spoiler : Eustass Kidd: :

    Posts a ton of spam posts devoid of content.

    #419
    The only way to see me truely lies on the dead ocean of leaves. What's the color of the leaf in A season?
    #422
    Let's just say I'm a leaf. Leaf in A season. A season, dudes.

    Rebel meter: Hints at being red or yellow (autumn colors)

    #335
    Guys, I'm really sorry, but that's a fake claim. I know the real Rebel Leader since I'm part of rebellion. Still I won't reveal him because... you know, he's important to be hided. But this person IS NOT Rebel Leader, that's for sure.
    While he fake-claimed such a thing, I doubt he is such a stupid scum. So I'd guess that Law is rather Jester or venti...ed.
    *remember the leaf story*
    Counterclaims right away, which is definitely rebel-y. I actually can’t sense any non-rebel motivation in writing this post unless Eustass Kidd himself is jester, but I haven’t been getting those vibes from him. Troll, yes. Jester, no.


    Conclusion:
    Eustass Kidd is probably a rebel, and Trafalgar Law is probably a jester.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    ATM, I think Roronoa Zoro is the Journalist. It would explain why he thought Bonney was not the real Journalist.
    Bonney could have claimed Journalist, gambling that there would be one. If there was one, then there would be an interview and that would clear her name or so she thought. Apparently Bonney seems to think that the interview's existence clears her as a confirmed Town. It does not.

    -Bonney can decode herself, so she's not vented
    -Bonney is eager to start lynch trains without very much backup, especially on Zoro.
    -Bonney is not revealing who she interviewed

    Just my 2 cents right now, I'm trying to find more stuff.

  19. ISO #619

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Since neither Bonney nor Zoro are being particularly cooperative and Capone already posted what I thought, here's my theory.

    Bonney makes a scumslip and the votes pile up.

    Bonney claims journalist and Zoro calls her a liar, but maybe not scum because scum probably wouldn't claim journalist.

    Bonney starts to accuse Zoro along with a few others.

    Zoro interviews Bonney to see if she is a PR that can prove itself, but needed another day to do so because there had been no night actions before yesterday.

    Bonney is CP9 and gets the interview and CP9 figures out who the journalist is.

    The ventriloquist takes control of Zoro, who has no anti disguise code, so that he can't call Bonney out on it the next day.

    Next day Zoro still defends Bonney, but Bonney accuses Zoro, who doesn't defend himself.

  20. ISO #620

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Urouge View Post
    In case you guys didn't see how blatantly Basil dodged his roleclaim, he should be hung immediately. I have serious doubts this day will provide us with any more useful information, as we are running in circles given the current state of affairs.

    Here is my reason for the immediate lynch on Basil :
    Says he'll claim if 3 more people vote him.
    -> Once he comes back he simply dodges the question trying to prolong his claim.
    -> -> if you were town, would it not be simple to just roleclaim at this point?
    -> -> -> If you are scum and did not prepare a claim for a day as early as this, simply because you thought lurking will not make you stand out, wouldn't you need time to figure out a viable claim?
    ->->->-> Basil = scum, at least according to my thought process.
    I'm the doctor.
    Night 1 I healed Jewelry Bonney, the journalist, because I believe her claim.

    I've been trying to keep a low profile, but I guess that didn't work very well. I don't even understand how I was supposedly trying to "derail the Cyborg Franky lynch" like people have been saying.

    Bus driver on me, please, and I will WIFOM heal Jewelry Bonney/other pro-town members.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Boa Hancock View Post
    Obsession with Rebels are you a Mehreen?

    Your "leads" on Eustass Kidd are swingy at best. Your style of analysing reminds me a lot of the other Mehreen who is ded. Anything else?
    I was given questions to answer by Whitebeard. The only one I've had time to answer so far involved the rebel cc situation between Trafalgar Law and Eustass Kidd. I am slowly working my way through the questions but thought I should post what I have so far so people can discuss about it.

  25. ISO #625

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Capone Bege View Post
    ATM, I think Roronoa Zoro is the Journalist. It would explain why he thought Bonney was not the real Journalist.
    Bonney could have claimed Journalist, gambling that there would be one. If there was one, then there would be an interview and that would clear her name or so she thought. Apparently Bonney seems to think that the interview's existence clears her as a confirmed Town. It does not.

    -Bonney can decode herself, so she's not vented
    -Bonney is eager to start lynch trains without very much backup, especially on Zoro.
    -Bonney is not revealing who she interviewed

    Just my 2 cents right now, I'm trying to find more stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Whitebeard View Post
    Since neither Bonney nor Zoro are being particularly cooperative and Capone already posted what I thought, here's my theory.

    Bonney makes a scumslip and the votes pile up.

    Bonney claims journalist and Zoro calls her a liar, but maybe not scum because scum probably wouldn't claim journalist.

    Bonney starts to accuse Zoro along with a few others.

    Zoro interviews Bonney to see if she is a PR that can prove itself, but needed another day to do so because there had been no night actions before yesterday.

    Bonney is CP9 and gets the interview and CP9 figures out who the journalist is.

    The ventriloquist takes control of Zoro, who has no anti disguise code, so that he can't call Bonney out on it the next day.

    Next day Zoro still defends Bonney, but Bonney accuses Zoro, who doesn't defend himself.
    And hypothetically speaking if this were the case what would the Bus Driver do?

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Capone Bege View Post
    -Bonney is eager to start lynch trains without very much backup, especially on Zoro.
    Here is the hole in your argument. Bonney would 100% be lynched or killed by Marines after Zoro flips Journalist. She would have been content with throwing herself away just so she can lynch the journalist. The journalist could have not posted an interview, which would have made Bonney 100% scum.

    The problem comes like in FM 16, where Indiana Jones pushed and lynched a citizen because they claimed doctor, to protect the doctors. We need to be careful about Bonney actually being a citizen when she claims to be a journalist, or vise versa. (Look, I took down a layer of WIFOM)

    Or you can look at Whitebeard and his post for another outcome.

    I need to rest.

    -unvote

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Crocodile View Post
    Here is the hole in your argument. Bonney would 100% be lynched or killed by Marines after Zoro flips Journalist. She would have been content with throwing herself away just so she can lynch the journalist. The journalist could have not posted an interview, which would have made Bonney 100% scum.

    The problem comes like in FM 16, where Indiana Jones pushed and lynched a citizen because they claimed doctor, to protect the doctors. We need to be careful about Bonney actually being a citizen when she claims to be a journalist, or vise versa. (Look, I took down a layer of WIFOM)

    Or you can look at Whitebeard and his post for another outcome.

    I need to rest.

    -unvote
    I did maintain she is still town didn't I, I have no doubt she will prove herself when the time comes.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Whitebeard View Post
    Well he clearly didn't switch you and Bonney last night. And I'm not sure if he should tonight either.
    Clearly he didn't the bus driver got a kill. Only thing I'm suspicious about is whether the guy that claimed bussed is legit. In fact I suspect him of being Pirate or Drugged.

  33. ISO #633

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Roronoa Zoro View Post
    And hypothetically speaking if this were the case what would the Bus Driver do?
    WIFOM

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Crocodile View Post
    Here is the hole in your argument. Bonney would 100% be lynched or killed by Marines after Zoro flips Journalist. She would have been content with throwing herself away just so she can lynch the journalist. The journalist could have not posted an interview, which would have made Bonney 100% scum.

    The problem comes like in FM 16, where Indiana Jones pushed and lynched a citizen because they claimed doctor, to protect the doctors. We need to be careful about Bonney actually being a citizen when she claims to be a journalist, or vise versa. (Look, I took down a layer of WIFOM)

    Or you can look at Whitebeard and his post for another outcome.

    I need to rest.

    -unvote
    Marines wouldn't kill off CP9 considering that Marines lost a member.
    Idk if she realized that Zoro was wifom counterclaiming her.
    And no, if there was no interview published, Bonney could have just said "The interviewee denied the interview"

    I'm not very convinced Bonney is Town, I'm gonna go write up a long ass post on why I think so.

  34. ISO #634

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Basil Hawkins View Post
    I'm the doctor.
    Night 1 I healed Jewelry Bonney, the journalist, because I believe her claim.

    I've been trying to keep a low profile, but I guess that didn't work very well. I don't even understand how I was supposedly trying to "derail the Cyborg Franky lynch" like people have been saying.

    Bus driver on me, please, and I will WIFOM heal Jewelry Bonney/other pro-town members.
    Why am i not surprised by this claim? Allegedly, the only things scum can claim are non provable roles? These would include but are not limited to since i don't know the entire role list by heart: Citizen / Doctor / Coroner.

    But i'll go with the mass sheep psychology and say this now : You're almost 100% getting off the hook for today, as well as town is not going to get a lynch down today either. I wish town wouldn't derail after good intuition and reading like on D1. It wouldn't surprise me that at the very least 2 out of the 4 people who have been put under heavy pressure today turn out to be scum, as in CP9/Pirate/Benign/Killing Neutrals.

  35. ISO #635

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Roronoa Zoro View Post
    I did maintain she is still town didn't I, I have no doubt she will prove herself when the time comes.
    I still don't see what on earth makes her look like town so much to you if she's trying to fake a journalist claim and then proceeds to cheer on lynching the most likely true journalist that can be gathered from post analysis. Even if it isn't really you, a citizen wouldn't risk that.

    If you suspect the bus drive was a drug, do you think there's 2 neutral killers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FM Urouge View Post
    Why am i not surprised by this claim? Allegedly, the only things scum can claim are non provable roles? These would include but are not limited to since i don't know the entire role list by heart: Citizen / Doctor / Coroner.

    But i'll go with the mass sheep psychology and say this now : You're almost 100% getting off the hook for today, as well as town is not going to get a lynch down today either. I wish town wouldn't derail after good intuition and reading like on D1. It wouldn't surprise me that at the very least 2 out of the 4 people who have been put under heavy pressure today turn out to be scum, as in CP9/Pirate/Benign/Killing Neutrals.

    The thing is he soft claimed it already yesterday.

    Basil, or Sweet Basil, is a common name for the culinary herb Ocimum basilicum (pronounced /ˈbæzɪl/ or, in the US, /ˈbeːzɪl/), of the family Lamiaceae (mints), sometimes known as Saint Joseph's Wort in some English-speaking countries.
    Herbs are usually used for healing. Counts in my book as a soft claim doc.

  37. ISO #637

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Big Mom View Post
    Why do you believe Bonney is not a journalist {since Day 1.5}?
    Why do you believe Bonney is still town despite {you believing that she is} false claiming?
    How do you know Straw's alignment?
    What town motivation do you have for stating that Straw is probably the doctor?
    H
    Zoro please answer my questions.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Capone Bege View Post
    Marines wouldn't kill off CP9 considering that Marines lost a member.
    Idk if she realized that Zoro was wifom counterclaiming her.
    And no, if there was no interview published, Bonney could have just said "The interviewee denied the interview"
    Meh. Your right about this. I didn't think about that.

    Again, I'm going to sleep. My thoughts will need time to come back.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Urouge View Post
    It wouldn't surprise me that at the very least 2 out of the 4 people who have been put under heavy pressure today turn out to be scum, as in CP9/Pirate/Benign/Killing Neutrals.
    Then would you care to join the vote on Trafalgar? I have posted my reasoning as to why he's scum. I believe he is the best lynch for today. What say you?

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Capone Bege View Post
    WIFOM


    Marines wouldn't kill off CP9 considering that Marines lost a member.
    Idk if she realized that Zoro was wifom counterclaiming her.
    And no, if there was no interview published, Bonney could have just said "The interviewee denied the interview"

    I'm not very convinced Bonney is Town, I'm gonna go write up a long ass post on why I think so.
    I am interested to read your post. {TBH I believe that Bonney is town who is ventrio'd}

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Whitebeard View Post
    I still don't see what on earth makes her look like town so much to you if she's trying to fake a journalist claim and then proceeds to cheer on lynching the most likely true journalist that can be gathered from post analysis. Even if it isn't really you, a citizen wouldn't risk that.

    If you suspect the bus drive was a drug, do you think there's 2 neutral killers?
    Citizen wouldn't? I sure as heck would if I were citizen, but no, I honestly believe she is Bus Driver and bussed herself last night.

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Roronoa Zoro View Post
    Citizen wouldn't? I sure as heck would if I were citizen, but no, I honestly believe she is Bus Driver and bussed herself last night.
    Bus Driver - Can switch the locations of two people. Cannot switch self

    I meant you as the journalist and Bonney as the supposed citizen.

    And now Bonney is trying to lynch you through yourself then? By coming up with impossible mechanics?

  43. ISO #643

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Basil Hawkins View Post
    I'm the doctor.
    Night 1 I healed Jewelry Bonney, the journalist, because I believe her claim.

    I've been trying to keep a low profile, but I guess that didn't work very well. I don't even understand how I was supposedly trying to "derail the Cyborg Franky lynch" like people have been saying.

    Bus driver on me, please, and I will WIFOM heal Jewelry Bonney/other pro-town members.
    Interesting claim.
    {I am not yet sure if I believe you.}
    As Urouge said this is the easiest role for scum to fake claim.

    -unvote

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    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Basil Hawkins View Post
    I'm the doctor.
    Night 1 I healed Jewelry Bonney, the journalist, because I believe her claim.

    I've been trying to keep a low profile, but I guess that didn't work very well. I don't even understand how I was supposedly trying to "derail the Cyborg Franky lynch" like people have been saying.

    Bus driver on me, please, and I will WIFOM heal Jewelry Bonney/other pro-town members.
    What kind of doctor would heal someone that has claimed a power role with 2 killing oppositions?

  46. ISO #646

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Observations:
    -Bonney can decode herself, so she's not vented
    -Bonney is eager to start lynch trains without very much backup
    -Bonney is not revealing who she interviewed

    Hypothesis:
    Bonney is Ventriloquist or at the very least, not Town.

    Spoiler : Data :

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    so back on that basil train we go?
    No. ASKING to restart a lynch train without providing anything more?

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    people who write interviews have the right to privacy (up to a point).
    What the flying fuck

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    PLEASE DO A CODE FOR TODAY. EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE. IT FORCES THE VENT TO KEEP OTHER PEOPLE THE SAME.
    It's not necessarily bad for Town if Vent switches target. It's like saying "PLEASE DO ___ SO BLACKMAILER BLACKMAILS THE SAME PERSON".


    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    the person i'm being pressured to reveal is only going to claim citizen, thats essentially what he claimed (or a person with a separate account true) in his interview. and he's not going to get lynched today. why scare him if he actually is scum?
    watwatwat

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    and can someone tell me please why we don't lynch zoro? NO contribution to game at all, only attempted to discredit me, and in a foolish manner. that's trash clearing in the best possible way.
    I disagree. You're the one discrediting yourself by not revealing who you interviewed.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney;284524
    i can backup zoro, just like yesterday.

    [vote
    FM Roronoa Zoro[/vote]
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    i still recommend we vote Zoro.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    -vote FM Roronoa Zoro
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    ALL ABOARD LYNCH TRAIN RORONOA ZORO!
    The fetishization of wanting to kill Zoro is more than creepy.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    I can't trust the town very much after they tried to lynch me.
    You don't trust your supposed faction after they tried to lynch you after YOU SCUM SLIPPED?

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    Too lynch happy based off very superficial things that hold more weight at the end game, not at the beginning game.
    not ventriloquisted, but i'll code him into my next article.
    Nice hypocrisy.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    please stop saying i'm not journalist, and not in control of myself. there is absolutely no evidence.
    There's no evidence of you being Journalist either and you think it's wrong to say you're not Journalist?

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    no, unless you can point out suspicion that he's scummy, without my help.
    Interesting that you think I need your help. Interesting that you immediately defend someone I call out as CP9.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    -vote FM Straw Hat Luffy
    Suspiciously quick to vote after I posted my analysis.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    no one jailed right? and i'd love it if cat thief nami could reveal roles that the marines have.
    lol. How would exposing the Marines help Town?

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    I 100% FOR ANYONE THAT VOTED ME BEFORE I REVEALED.
    You scumslipped. It was legit voting.

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    if anyone think i'm bmed/ventriloquisted, say something, but i'd like to keep my code for now.
    "Hey guys if you think I'm Blackmailed, please say something about this post, thank you."

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    if anyone ever thinks i'm ventriloquisted after, i can write my own report to publish next to my interviewee.
    Wait why didn't you do this last night to confirm yourself as Journalist? Write a report saying "I AM JEWELRY BONNEY" or something ionno


    These are all posts from today. If interested, feel free to pursue this further by looking at her Day1.5 posts.

  47. ISO #647

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Boa Hancock View Post
    The thing is he soft claimed it already yesterday.



    Herbs are usually used for healing. Counts in my book as a soft claim doc.
    I personally think that's a pretty bad play, especially in this setup where the doctor can be invaluable. The doctor is basically the main link between possible alliances with the factions for town. Probably the most influential Town role for the setup i'd say.
    Since i'll be posting a long ass post tomorrow about how the factions should be approaching the game. I'll state this now, if Basil turns out to be doctor, he played horrible. IF he is a citizen trying to take a night bullet from one of the scum factions, he's actually being pretty smart. Should he turn out to be as scum he'll be just as i suspected, a ???? what the hell were u thinking SCUM?

    Essentially,if he is doc he is bad. Should he be scum he's most likely not the brightest. In case he will flip citizen, it was a great misdirection, should he be getting night killed.

  48. ISO #648

  49. ISO #649

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Jewelry Bonney View Post
    to hell with ALL of you nonbelievers

    i interviewed Urogue. I WILL NOT REVEAL AGAIN UNLESS MY CIRCUMSTANCES ARE KEPT.
    Quote Originally Posted by FM Urouge View Post
    I personally think that's a pretty bad play, especially in this setup where the doctor can be invaluable. The doctor is basically the main link between possible alliances with the factions for town. Probably the most influential Town role for the setup i'd say.
    Since i'll be posting a long ass post tomorrow about how the factions should be approaching the game. I'll state this now, if Basil turns out to be doctor, he played horrible. IF he is a citizen trying to take a night bullet from one of the scum factions, he's actually being pretty smart. Should he turn out to be as scum he'll be just as i suspected, a ???? what the hell were u thinking SCUM?

    Essentially,if he is doc he is bad. Should he be scum he's most likely not the brightest. In case he will flip citizen, it was a great misdirection, should he be getting night killed.
    confirm, or your on the chopping block.

  50. ISO #650

    Re: Day 2: First Casualties

    Quote Originally Posted by FM Urouge View Post
    I personally think that's a pretty bad play, especially in this setup where the doctor can be invaluable. The doctor is basically the main link between possible alliances with the factions for town. Probably the most influential Town role for the setup i'd say.
    Since i'll be posting a long ass post tomorrow about how the factions should be approaching the game. I'll state this now, if Basil turns out to be doctor, he played horrible. IF he is a citizen trying to take a night bullet from one of the scum factions, he's actually being pretty smart. Should he turn out to be as scum he'll be just as i suspected, a ???? what the hell were u thinking SCUM?

    Essentially,if he is doc he is bad. Should he be scum he's most likely not the brightest. In case he will flip citizen, it was a great misdirection, should he be getting night killed.
    I personally think he's just scum or citizen who is scared as heck that people like you will fly into a rage to get him lynched if he were to claim citizen.

 

 

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