S-FM 221: Death Note

[BananaCucho]

Who the fuck made haHA A into an emote

[Stealthbomber16]

I'm sorry, I am unable to answer that question as I'm not allowed to talk about their IRL relationship.

Okay, I apparently am an incompetent moron. Ignore that question. Just filled in the blanks.

This is just so you guys know what I'm thinking more or less

Why the town read on firebringer?

[MattZed]

@ika , are you at any point going to give your reason for voting me or respond to anyone other than SW?

[Cryptonic]

Okay, I apparently am an incompetent moron. Ignore that question. Just filled in the blanks.

No, you're not. It's a legitimate question, and their IRL relationship is in fact an argument that can be used to discuss their blind trust in one another.

I was just making a joke because I was told that I was not allowed to mention their relationship in a read, but then they make actions in the game based on their relationship.

[Cryptonic]

@ika , are you at any point going to give your reason for voting me or respond to anyone other than SW?

It's legit why my vote is still on him. This will only cause frustration and distract from the game. I think that if I'm lynching a slot that is possible Kira or possible anti-Town Citizen, then it's a decent day 1 lynch.

[MattZed]

I guess I can understand the misrepresentation in some posts. However, some times when I see his has failed to read or comprehend, he doesn't use that every time as an argument against said person. I feel like Scum would specifically do this to twist arguments or make someone look bad. However, he has done it to me this game and did not use it to show me in any sort of negative light.

I can understand if a player thinks he's scum for these actions if they have twisted their words while pressuring them, because yes that is definitely something a scum player would do.

Just the fact that he makes the same error while NOT pressuring someone leads me to believe he's just skimming posts.

To respond to BC's point, this. Although really, I disagree with the idea that I've been misreading all too much. BC alleges I was misreading in #50, but he literally says "Not getting blamed for not stopping a fight again." The only possible reference BC could have to ika expressing an opinion on SW is #14 where ika says "pecit: silverwolf confirmed cit claim party block inbound," which is gramatically ambiguous and doesn't confirm ika at all expressed a townread on SW, nevermind it not telling us if he was serious. The alleged misreading of Crypt is from a post I asked him for clarification on and he didn't really give any. Although in this case I don't think Crypt suspects there was a serious misunderstanding here. I was telling him how to read FB, and the points there were entirely valid.

The supposed disconnect between how seriously I say I'm taking this game and how seriously I'm actually taking it doesn't exist. I've quite clearly been reading this game.

[MattZed]

It's legit why my vote is still on him. This will only cause frustration and distract from the game. I think that if I'm lynching a slot that is possible Kira or possible anti-Town Citizen, then it's a decent day 1 lynch.

Crypt, are you nullreading him but hedging your vote based on his extremely anti-town play, or are you scumreading him like I am for not pursuing a town wincon?

[BananaCucho]

To respond to BC's point, this. Although really, I disagree with the idea that I've been misreading all too much. BC alleges I was misreading in #50, but he literally says "Not getting blamed for not stopping a fight again." The only possible reference BC could have to ika expressing an opinion on SW is #14 where ika says "pecit: silverwolf confirmed cit claim party block inbound," which is gramatically ambiguous and doesn't confirm ika at all expressed a townread on SW, nevermind it not telling us if he was serious. The alleged misreading of Crypt is from a post I asked him for clarification on and he didn't really give any. Although in this case I don't think Crypt suspects there was a serious misunderstanding here. I was telling him how to read FB, and the points there were entirely valid.

The supposed disconnect between how seriously I say I'm taking this game and how seriously I'm actually taking it doesn't exist. I've quite clearly been reading this game.

I said I'm not getting blamed for NOT stopping another fight again like in the game where I was in the Cancer archon

You asked what's wrong WITH stopping a fight. Learn 2 read.

[BananaCucho]

Aight I can see where this is going. I'll come back later. Not getting blamed for not stopping a fight again.

Enjoy, folks.

What's wrong with stopping a fight?

-vote BananaCucho

Reading is so so hard.

[Cryptonic]

Crypt, are you nullreading him but hedging your vote based on his extremely anti-town play, or are you scumreading him like I am for not pursuing a town wincon?

It's close to null, but leaning scum. Mainly because he is posting in such a way to prevent any one from getting a legitimate town read on him. I see this as very anti-town, because why wouldn't a Town member want other Town members to be able to get a read on them to save themselves from the lynch?

Although, he seems to care so little about the day that It makes me second guess his intentions to be that of someone who is scum, but his lack to address the problem at L-2 could just be him hoping to slide through the day so he can convert before he dies. It's hard to say.

I don't really have a solid scum read on anyone at the moment, including him.
My vote was initially placed on him as a joke due to show that trust tells mean nothing, but he hasn't done anything to make me remove my vote so it has stayed there. I do find that he isn't really doing anything to try to reach his wincon, and that's just another reason why I am comfortable with getting rid of him. If he's Kira, awesome; if he's Citizen, I'd rather not have a player alive at MYLO/LYLO that doesn't care about participating or his win condition.

[Firebringer]

why hasn't matt been lynched yet?

[Mesk514]

I had a little something to post last night but stupid site reset at 1am so it didn't go through ughh

[SilverWolf]

The reason I object to the IRL relationship being brought up is I don't want people to just blow off my defense of ika as because we are dating. I do have the most experience with ika here and know how he thinks game wise probably better than anyone. I have said several reasons why I think he's town.

-he is drawing too much negative attention to himself

-his play doesn't look anything like Empire

-he is demotivated and idgaf which I don't believe he'd be like if he were kira

-his explanation to me about why he was doing what he was doing was very sincere

If you guys want to lynch him for playing this way if we can't agree on a better scumread that's fine. But I want to know why ika is being singled out when there are others who are barely playing or just trolling and they aren't. It kind of bugs me and that plus the demotivation is going to auto make me defend ika. Especially because this doesn't look like scum at all. Being stubborn about not answering anyone again, looks more like idgaf town.
@ika -talk to me about why you think Firebringer is scum, I scumread him off his entrance but then he picked it up and looked better

I think Kira is gonna either be super tryhard and townie looking like MattZ, or gonna be completely under the radar like Gyrlander or maybe SJ or Mesk. MattZ just looks to planned out to me for lack of better wording. Like all his posts are controlled. It lacks the easygoing feel of town. However, if he is town, I agree with Crypt about how he'd be more useful keeping around for awhile.

The ones playing UTR could also be kira just letting the lynch of an active townie go through. I don't have strong reads on these players either way so hard to say but it's strategy kira could use to avoid the lynch and stay alive long enough to recruit.

I am leaning town on Cryptonic and Bananacucho. I like the flow of their conversation in the thread. It feels natural plus they are actively scumhunting.

Not sure about Stealthbomber yet either.

So a lot of who knows for me, a few town leans, and a small scumread on MattZ.

That's where I'm at right now.

[Gyrlander]

What does UTR mean?

[Mesk514]

The reason I object to the IRL relationship being brought up is I don't want people to just blow off my defense of ika as because we are dating. I do have the most experience with ika here and know how he thinks game wise probably better than anyone. I have said several reasons why I think he's town.

-he is drawing too much negative attention to himself

-his play doesn't look anything like Empire

-he is demotivated and idgaf which I don't believe he'd be like if he were kira

-his explanation to me about why he was doing what he was doing was very sincere

If you guys want to lynch him for playing this way if we can't agree on a better scumread that's fine. But I want to know why ika is being singled out when there are others who are barely playing or just trolling and they aren't. It kind of bugs me and that plus the demotivation is going to auto make me defend ika. Especially because this doesn't look like scum at all. Being stubborn about not answering anyone again, looks more like idgaf town.
@ika -talk to me about why you think Firebringer is scum, I scumread him off his entrance but then he picked it up and looked better

I think Kira is gonna either be super tryhard and townie looking like MattZ, or gonna be completely under the radar like Gyrlander or maybe SJ or Mesk. MattZ just looks to planned out to me for lack of better wording. Like all his posts are controlled. It lacks the easygoing feel of town. However, if he is town, I agree with Crypt about how he'd be more useful keeping around for awhile.

The ones playing UTR could also be kira just letting the lynch of an active townie go through. I don't have strong reads on these players either way so hard to say but it's strategy kira could use to avoid the lynch and stay alive long enough to recruit.

I am leaning town on Cryptonic and Bananacucho. I like the flow of their conversation in the thread. It feels natural plus they are actively scumhunting.

Not sure about Stealthbomber yet either.

So a lot of who knows for me, a few town leans, and a small scumread on MattZ.

That's where I'm at right now.

I'm a citizen. Please keep my name and evil out of the same sentence

[MattZed]

Alright, I missed a double negative. My bad. But in the grand scheme of things, missing a word on page 1 isn't worth the frustration its becoming. BC, you know we have a terrible reputation for working together, and I dont want to see it continue this game. If you're town, please try to contextualize that those are small misreadings in someone I'm not reading as scum, rather than being the basis for a mistaken case.

To SW's worry that ika is being singled out, realize that he stands out from the other trolls: FB at least says he scumreads me for my manner of speaking, and SJ will admit he's sheeping a countertrain to his townread. Ika wont even give a single reason for any of his votes, or support a single one of his suspicions. He's not JUST trolling. He's avoiding moving the game along in any way.

I've seen ika be busy and lurk. This is different. He is posting A LOT and still saying nothing. If he cares enough to post more than ANYONE and to not be replaced out, why doesnt he help the town wincon? He's either actively trying to saboatage this game and the site, or he's scum. I just happen to have enough faith he's not doing the former.

[SilverWolf]

What does UTR mean?

Under the Radar

I'm a citizen. Please keep my name and evil out of the same sentence

I actually believe you since this is in line with your citizen play in the last 2 games I was in with you.

[Gyrlander]

Only way I can scum-read MZ is thinking that he's trying to get an easy mislynch of ika.

[Cryptonic]

Only way I can scum-read MZ is thinking that he's trying to get an easy mislynch of ika.

What scum doesn't do that

[Firebringer]

What scum doesn't do that

i go for the hard mislynches as scum. I have some integrity!

[SuperJack]

I'm a citizen. Please keep my name and evil out of the same sentence

I'm more of a Citizen than you'll ever be

[Gyrlander]

I don't like current lynches to be honest. Screw you.

[Gyrlander]

-vote SuperJack

CHOO CHOO

[SuperJack]

-vote SuperJack

CHOO CHOO

[Gyrlander]

-vote SuperJack

CHOO CHOO

CHUGGA CHUGGA

[SuperJack]

Bite me.

[Mesk514]

I don't like current lynches to be honest. Screw you.

So let's lynch you

-vote Gyrlander

[Mesk514]

Under the Radar



I actually believe you since this is in line with your citizen play in the last 2 games I was in with you.

You're too kind, I promise I won't let you down <3

[SuperJack]

So let's lynch you

-vote Gyrlander

You really think Gyrlander would have the balls to try and start a wagon on me if he was scum?

[Gyrlander]

Bite me.

We can't make this forum 18+.

[Gyrlander]

You really think Gyrlander would have the balls to try and start a wagon on me if he was scum?

Good question. I'll answer it when I'm converted tonight.

[BananaCucho]

I don't like current lynches to be honest. Screw you.

What don't you like about them?

Is your vote on SJ serious?

[Gyrlander]

What don't you like about them?

Is your vote on SJ serious?

MZ seems towny.

ika seems random.

I'm always fucking serious.

[BananaCucho]

MZ seems towny.

ika seems random.

I'm always fucking serious.

If its serious why are you voting him? You didn't state a reason

[SilverWolf]

What does UTR mean?

I'm a citizen. Please keep my name and evil out of the same sentence

Only way I can scum-read MZ is thinking that he's trying to get an easy mislynch of ika.

ika's the easiest mislynch in the game right now, it's exactly what scum does, lol

[SilverWolf]

So apparently the game never removed multi quotes. Ignore the first two.

[SilverWolf]

I actually agree with ika that scum is either MZ or FB at this point. Everyone else has done townie things here and there and I can point them out if you need me to.

[SilverWolf]

To SW's worry that ika is being singled out, realize that he stands out from the other trolls: FB at least says he scumreads me for my manner of speaking, and SJ will admit he's sheeping a countertrain to his townread. Ika wont even give a single reason for any of his votes, or support a single one of his suspicions. He's not JUST trolling. He's avoiding moving the game along in any way.

I've seen ika be busy and lurk. This is different. He is posting A LOT and still saying nothing. If he cares enough to post more than ANYONE and to not be replaced out, why doesnt he help the town wincon? He's either actively trying to saboatage this game and the site, or he's scum. I just happen to have enough faith he's not doing the former.

No, the choices are not that he tries to sabatoge the site or he's scum. He put a big long post about why he's doing it. Whether or not you agree with his reasoning is up for debate but that's what he decided to do this game. I don't understand why you refuse to see how ika can be town or how a town player can behave like this.

[ika]

The reason I object to the IRL relationship being brought up is I don't want people to just blow off my defense of ika as because we are dating. I do have the most experience with ika here and know how he thinks game wise probably better than anyone. I have said several reasons why I think he's town.

-he is drawing too much negative attention to himself

-his play doesn't look anything like Empire

-he is demotivated and idgaf which I don't believe he'd be like if he were kira

-his explanation to me about why he was doing what he was doing was very sincere

If you guys want to lynch him for playing this way if we can't agree on a better scumread that's fine. But I want to know why ika is being singled out when there are others who are barely playing or just trolling and they aren't. It kind of bugs me and that plus the demotivation is going to auto make me defend ika. Especially because this doesn't look like scum at all. Being stubborn about not answering anyone again, looks more like idgaf town.
@ika -talk to me about why you think Firebringer is scum, I scumread him off his entrance but then he picked it up and looked better

I think Kira is gonna either be super tryhard and townie looking like MattZ, or gonna be completely under the radar like Gyrlander or maybe SJ or Mesk. MattZ just looks to planned out to me for lack of better wording. Like all his posts are controlled. It lacks the easygoing feel of town. However, if he is town, I agree with Crypt about how he'd be more useful keeping around for awhile.

The ones playing UTR could also be kira just letting the lynch of an active townie go through. I don't have strong reads on these players either way so hard to say but it's strategy kira could use to avoid the lynch and stay alive long enough to recruit.

I am leaning town on Cryptonic and Bananacucho. I like the flow of their conversation in the thread. It feels natural plus they are actively scumhunting.

Not sure about Stealthbomber yet either.

So a lot of who knows for me, a few town leans, and a small scumread on MattZ.

That's where I'm at right now.

its still POE. this is why i dont have anything else to say. overall. everyone else has been doing townie like things.

Also funny thing is it would eb amazing if i am fooling you as kira but anyone should know i cant do that.

[SilverWolf]

Lynch MZ with fire today and if he flips town, kill FB tomorrow.

FB is perfectly capable of trolling hard as scum.

[Firebringer]

ika's the easiest mislynch in the game right now, it's exactly what scum does, lol

stop fucking defending each other.

[Firebringer]

I actually agree with ika that scum is either MZ or FB at this point. Everyone else has done townie things here and there and I can point them out if you need me to.

you have flipped on me now three times.
first i was trolling.
then i was doing better.
now i have done nothing townie?

also u were willing to lynch ika for shit posting and he is still doing it, but its like "No, he is obv town"

[Firebringer]

Lynch MZ with fire today and if he flips town, kill FB tomorrow.

FB is perfectly capable of trolling hard as scum.

do people want me to get in a rage ball or something?
I haven't trolled since like first 8 pages.

Quote any of my posts before you call troll.

[Firebringer]

id be willing to do a lynch on ika if anything to get rid of the empathy archon from the game.

[SilverWolf]

id be willing to do a lynch on ika if anything to get rid of the empathy archon from the game.

Fuck off

[SilverWolf]

Like seriously, fuck you Firebringer.

I want either you or me out of the game. I know moving my vote means ika is more likely to be lynched but I don't give a fuck at this point.

Remind me never to play a game here again.

-vote Firebringer

[ika]

stop fucking defending each other.

Hi Kira

-vote firebringer

[SilverWolf]

Like, I have said repeatedly why what ika is doing could come from town. He's up for a lynch so of course I'm gonna talk about it more.

I've also given my opinion on other things.

No one fucking listens to a damn word. It's all about, ika and silverwolf are just defending each other. Let's policy ika cuz he and SW are defending each other. Let's policy ika cuz he's shit posting.

Fuck this crap. I'm not dealing with it further. Go ahead and lynch ika. Please lynch me tomorrow then or do it now if you prefer.

I have nothing else to add.

[ika]

Like seriously, fuck you Firebringer.

I want either you or me out of the game. I know moving my vote means ika is more likely to be lynched but I don't give a fuck at this point.

Remind me never to play a game here again.

-vote Firebringer

Firebringer is salty he rolled scum and won't be able to recuit you if I'm alive because I would call you out on it like you would call me out.

The fact that the site hates us because of me is expected in a toxic dying community. We signed to help sino out and the fact fire is just upset about it shows enough.

Perot: would you hammer me if I went to l-1? If I get lynched just do what I have been doing and troll the thread till they get pissed off. It will save you from Kira conversion

[Cryptonic]

lol?