I couldn’t find a single post where you said jack about intending to give me a gun on d4.
It is true that from town!yoshida's perspective, not jailing you or lynching you would greatly help town.
But you have to understand that the rest of the players have been scum reading you all game so it's not that easy for us to accept your proposals. Let's take you giving a gun to Zenon as an example. This is so anti-town move if you thought Zenon could've been scum and gave a gun to Zenon and you wanted Zenon to shoot Varcron.
This.
And he still didn’t want to vote out Stellaria even the next day.
Like it’s so obvious he wanted to save Stellaria.
hello my name is nancy and i can't let go off my opinion because changing my opinion based off of more evidence on new information means i am stupid and hypocritical and i can never change my opinion about anything
where is the ice cream in this joint
An opinion that both townsiding CE and dead town caroller also share.
You haven’t responded to Ikarus post about jailkeeping you and if no kill, you’re outed scum.
What evidence?
tbh im now concerned about Zenon killing Stellaria.
She has been absent but is aware enough of the game state to shoot Stellaria.
Sheeped Varcron about Yoshida and me being TvT
TR Stella before EoD yesterday
Receives a gun
Shoots Stellaria?
Given that day vig'ing another player is a power move, I gotta say that shot was made out of confidence. But her lack of presence as well as information she was sharing about her views yesterday concerns me. If you thought someone was town and you receive a gun, would you just shoot? So I'm wondering where that confidence came from?
Anyway
We can just lynch yoshida here if we are all certain.
But I believe the safer and more methodical approach would be to lynch a slot between Z and V (preferrably Z) and I can jail Yoshida (I'd prefer this over NOT jailing yoshida in case we have a random shooting shenanigans tomorrow). Unless you guys think yoshida might actually be town therefore I should jail someone else.
If I jail shida and
A kill goes through, this means yoshida is 100% town.
A kill does not go through this means yoshida is 100% scum.
If I jail another person, a gun is given and
A kill goes through, this means yoshida could be scum, and the gun can be used to kill this slot during day.
A kill does not go through, this means the person I jailed is scum.
You know what? Fuck it. Lets give yoshida his play. We lynch someone here (still have more than 36 hours to decide), I jail someone else, yoshida gives a gun and that gun is only used to kill yoshida. If the gun target dies, yoshida is immediately yeeted.
Since I am an alignment cop rather than protection rn, I suspect I will die next, unless yoshida dies so I should leave my legacy here soon.
Weird takes a bound.
I'm a well known just super big brain.
martin
ren
ika
nancy
varcron
zenon
yoshida
6 town - 1 mafia
2 PR's
Here are all the possible paths we can take as town.
Solve 1: minimum 66% chance of town victory
We vote out Varcron/Renegade today(D5) on the basis that they are my top SR.
Vote Varcron today
Jail Renegade tonight
If a NK happens, Renegade will get a greencheck.
D6
Remaining Players: t!Ren, t!Yoshida, Nancy, Martin, Zenon
Then we decide on shooting between Yoshida/Martin:
if we shoot Martin tomorrow and he flips green, town will have 2 choices:
1. Vote out t!Yoshida and enter 2v1 with 66% off t!Ren NK.
2. Skip vote and let Yoshida give a gun at night. This will force mafia to decide between killing t!Ren and t!Yoshida.
D7 (if we skip vote on D6)
If t!Yoshida lives and manages to give a gun to the another town(odds are 66% at this point) then we get another day for Nancy/Zenon/Martin to shoot.
Town or Mafia will have 3 choices at this point:
Shoot Yoshida and vote from Nancy/Zenon/Martin.
Shoot another town and try to vote from the remaining pool.
Shoot mafia.
If I die on N6 and T!Ren makes it to D7 then you will still have 66% to win the game as he needs to pick from Martin/Nancy/Zenon as a greenchecked slot.
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Back to D6
if we don't shoot Martin tomorrow but shoot t!Yoshida instead:
T!Ren will be NK and town will enter LyLo and have to vote out one from Martin/Nancy/Zenon. 66%
Solve 2: 66% chance of town victory
Vote Varcron today
Jail Yoshida tonight.
If a NK happens, Yoshida gets a greencheck.
D6
Remaining Players: t!Yoshida, Renegade, Nancy, Martin, Zenon
We decide on voting from Ren/Nancy/Martin/Zenon. What that leads to:
1. Town can skip one day to get a smaller pool the next day with 3 players remaining.
2. Town can try to eliminate mafia on 25% odds instead of 33%.
If we eliminate a town, we enter the ChLo (Choose correct or Lose) stage. I will have to choose town or we lose at night. If I get killed, remaining players will be Nancy, Martin, Zenon and they will play the final day without guns, greenchecks and PRs. If I choose a town then they can shoot me or someone else. If the gun victim is town, we still get a 2v1 to vote from.
If I am alive but town with a gun is dead:
1. We can skip one more day to get a smaller pool and another ChLo at night.
2. Town can try to eliminate mafia on 33% odds.
If both me and the person with gun is alive they shoot one town and the game goes to ChLo.
Solve 3: maximum 66% chance of town victory
We lynch Yoshida today, see he is town and jail Ren. Have T!Ren with Nancy, Martin, Zen, Varcron alive tomorrow.
If town votes out another town on D6/tomorrow then Ren will die N6 and we get to D7 with Nancy/Martin/Zen/Varcron alive. They can vote to skip to get a 66% at this point or try a 25% vote.
But why should we go for Solve 3 or even 2 if in the end we don't get any advantages over Solve 1??
As you can see, all solves lead to the same thing with Nancy/Zenon living till the final day. I also understand people don't trust me because of my role. I take that and will leave it to you guys as long as we follow one of the solve 1 or even solve 2 I presented. I refuse to be the lynch today as presented in Solve 3 which is what mafia would want the most.
Based on this, it only makes sense to me that we get 1 more elim today and a gun tonight before voting me out.
where is the ice cream in this joint
I am also open to changing the names from Varcron/Renegade from my proposal of Solve 1.
It can be Zenon/Martin or whatever we decide today based on peoples TOP SR excluding me.
@MartinGG99
@Zenon
@Renegade
@Nancy Drew 39
@ikarusdk
@Varcron
please read my solve above.
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I’m either keeping my vote on you or skip if Ikarus jailkeeps you.
I think it’s you though and I prefer voting you out today but I’ll settle for Ikarus jailkeepinh you, if that’s not possible.
where is the ice cream in this joint
Only skip that town benefits is to change a 3v1 to 2v1. 50% to 66%. Until then, skip day is anti-town.
where is the ice cream in this joint
In a world where you’re town, you should agree to be jailkept because any nk would vindicate you.
I’m voting you unless you you agree ti be jailkept and Ikarus commits to jking you. I’m voting you or skip because I think it’s you. I’m not voting anyone else.
As I said, I will never accept Solve 3 which is Voting me out today if have read my post.
I would prefer we go with Solve 1 and I can go with Solve 2 if that is what town decides. I don't get to decide what majority wants. I am only trying to help and increase our chances of winning. Solve 1 requires ikarus to Jail a slot for greencheck/end game by jailing his top SR besides me. Solve 2 requires jailing me for a slower game which benefits Mafia but we still get another gun.
where is the ice cream in this joint
We get the gun only if mafia doesn't shoot me after greencheck^
where is the ice cream in this joint
Yoshida needs to die. They appealed me to shoot Vacron and avoid Stellaria.
They pushed to execute me if Vacron was shot and town under the impression of course that is where my shot would go because of my EoD.
I shot Stellaria cause big brain. I did not flip the town they begged me to shoot. I am now still being pushed by Yoshida. Pls explain how this is EVER town
Do you agree to be jailkept or not?
That’s fot Yoshida obviously.
stop lying. I forced you to shoot between me/varcron/stellaria by giving a gun to you. IF anything I am the 20000 IQ here not you.
You only played the best you could and didn't make a mistake. You shooting Stellaria is NAI. You lying and scumpainting me is MAFIA INDICATIVE
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where is the ice cream in this joint
I am honestly not sure:
The song will name 3 people and at least one of the name are mafia.
I saw this as the carol containing 1 mafia name guaranteed with a possibility of more mafia. IF this is limited to 1 mafia then we can have T!Zenon and T!Varcron here.
Can carol contain more than one mafia? @powerofdeath
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if this is true then i dont see why mafia don't surrender. town wins by jailing one in Martin/Ren/Nancy here and we shoot/kill the other two.
where is the ice cream in this joint
unless ikarus is the last mafia but I doubt that. I also don't see him winning this game as mafia. we have the numbers advantage here and only way town loses is by voting a PR out today in a 6v1. I am sad only ikarus can see this and everyone else not.
where is the ice cream in this joint
I believe if you’re jailkept, no kill happens, which is why I’m only willing to vote you or skip. If you were town, you’d agree to being jailkept but you won’t because you know their won’t be any factional kill if you’re jailkept.
You were trying to get Zenon to shoot Varcron instead of Stellaria. I don’t understand how Ikarus isn’t seeing this.
And you gave the gun to a player you claimed to scumread. What townie ever does that?
I would prefer we end the game today which I believe happens with your (Yoshida’s) flip.
Why would we vote anyone other than the player who tried to save pretty much confiscum?
I rarely make the right choice in mafia when I have time to think. I over think. But I don't have time to think in this game. So like I got something right and I'm fucking happy I did because I've been so down on my game since champs where I hard defended a wolf and tunneled a town because I over thought every thing I saw even when I had the solve.
So maybe I'm over playing how good I am but like...I needed this
I mean Stella was pretty much an outed wolf at that point in time. It was whether we lynch yoshida or stellaria today but we were seeking other options, because I personally tried to look at town!yoshida's POV and it sorta in a weird way makes sense? But ofc you can see from my initial reaction I was also outraged abit before getting an explanation.