S-FM III Game thread

[TheWaaagh]

Alright I've taken the roles list, and filled it out with what I think is correct so far. With that in mind, I am going to vote Rocshi.

[CmG]

I am more for lets lynch him today and shoot another Terrorist or Arso candidate tonight. Because its much more beneficial for us. If i would be the mole you would never have found me out. This indeed would be a terrible gamble for me then. Because i would have just slipped away and you would never guessed it that i am Baboon.

You don't see their COM identities if they leave!

Lets make that easy.

If you are Lookout who would have you checked tonight? (Arso target) Who would have been doused probably? Escaho, me or TheWaaagh. Basicly if we don't lynch Mr. Lookout who is probably the Mole who knows now 2 - 3 targets who is probably the Arso. Will get that info to the Terrorists and they will give him some nice targets to douse.

Awesome that the Lookout our best bet to find the Arso is the mole to 60%...

[TheWaaagh]

McPwnage claims he doesn't have a night chat, but no role-claim, so fuck it CmG I'll go with you. No one else has counter-claimed you as Albatross and I doubt we'll get enough votes given the lurkers but let's give it a shot anyway.

Vote McPwnage

[Escaho]

I'd rather wait till tonight, see McPwnage is gone, and then send a message to Escaho to shoot him tonight so he'll be dead tomorrow anyway (we can do that before he sends his action in remember). Same goes for if you disappear tonight.

How do you intend to send me a message tonight? I do not join CTU chat until the NEXT night (not the one coming up).

If the Mole does not get lynched today the mafia will know basically every role in the game. Our investigators have either a) been doing a really shitty job or b) Ubernox is the only one telling the truth and two mafia are running the show. But if that were true, then how come both have admitted to being in the night chat? This means that Ubernox either lied or investigated framed people.

Rocshi is supposedly clean. I believe him to be town more than several others.

We need the lurkers to post.

[CmG]

There are no citizens in this game. Since the Terrorists messed up their N1 kill we are at the better end if we get the role claims running. Just sayin.

[CmG]

Lynch the mole shoot a Terrorist. Let's assume Waaagh and me are CTU Agents town aligned. Wonders will happen the next 2 Nights...

[TheWaaagh]

How do you intend to send me a message tonight? I do not join CTU chat until the NEXT night (not the one coming up).

If the Mole does not get lynched today the mafia will know basically every role in the game. Our investigators have either a) been doing a really shitty job or b) Ubernox is the only one telling the truth and two mafia are running the show. But if that were true, then how come both have admitted to being in the night chat? This means that Ubernox either lied or investigated framed people.

Rocshi is supposedly clean. I believe him to be town more than several others.

We need the lurkers to post.

Tonight we get to send a message via the gamemaster to a player of our choosing (you).

I don't know where Rocshi was confirmed to be clean, unless we're taking his word for it? Tonight I will send you the roles list as it looks right now but the way I see it there's 6 spots open: 1 innocent + 1 mole + 3 Terrorists + 1 arsonist. Rocshi is one of those open spots, so even if he's clean McPwnage is on that list as well and needs to be lynched as I am inclined to believe CmG. If CmG is actually the mole after all this then the message I send to you tonight will instruct you to shoot him. And yes, you are able to submit an action tonight after receiving our message, so there will be no problem with that.

[McJesus]

If I roleclaim I'll get killed. There are too many town PR's out in the open already for the mafia to choose from.

-vote deathfire123

the fact that escaho got roleblocked makes me believe deathfire was faking being blackmailed. We pretty much have a confirmed framer leaving only one random role left for terrorists.

[TheWaaagh]

If I roleclaim I'll get killed. There are too many town PR's out in the open already for the mafia to choose from.

-vote deathfire123

the fact that escaho got roleblocked makes me believe deathfire was faking being blackmailed. We pretty much have a confirmed framer leaving only one random role left for terrorists.

We are all town PRs. You will have to be more specific than that, especially after you promised us "juicy information" yesterday, and we know you weren't blocked.

[Escaho]

If I roleclaim I'll get killed. There are too many town PR's out in the open already for the mafia to choose from.

-vote deathfire123

the fact that escaho got roleblocked makes me believe deathfire was faking being blackmailed. We pretty much have a confirmed framer leaving only one random role left for terrorists.

Jaczac admitted to being an Escort and that he roleblocked me to stop me from killing him. A pretty convenient excuse, if you ask me, but we'll see.

[CmG]

Jaczac claimed Escort and said he blocked me N1 and Escaho N2 cuz i said we should shoot a lurker.

[Escaho]

@BorkBot: Can the Arsonist still incinerate if he is role-blocked?

[CmG]

Goremancer - terrorist
McPwnage - Mole
Escaho - Dirty canadian with a gun
Kromos - Godfather for sure
CmG - Godfather of Counterstrike
Deathfire123 - blackmailed cocksucker
nanosystem - lurky lurk he is either here arso or in the other game
TheWaaagh - invest
GameFreak - terrorist
Rocshi - missguided town sheep
Ubernox - sherriff
jaczac - Escort

[CmG]

feel free to add your thoughts.

[Escaho]

Goremancer - terrorist
McPwnage - Mole
Escaho - Dirty canadian with a gun
Kromos - Godfather for sure
CmG - Godfather of Counterstrike
Deathfire123 - blackmailed cocksucker
nanosystem - lurky lurk he is either here arso or in the other game
TheWaaagh - invest
GameFreak - terrorist
Rocshi - missguided town sheep
Ubernox - sherriff
jaczac - Escort

Any particular reason Kromos is Godfather? I actually expected Arsonist out of him...

GameFreak framer? Goremancer Blackmailer? NanoSystem Arsonist?

[Escaho]

If I roleclaim I'll get killed. There are too many town PR's out in the open already for the mafia to choose from.

-vote deathfire123

the fact that escaho got roleblocked makes me believe deathfire was faking being blackmailed. We pretty much have a confirmed framer leaving only one random role left for terrorists.

You better roleclaim fast then buddy because there's a train headed your way.

[CmG]

It all depends on the Target who TheWaaagh checked last night. He said in the Nightchat that he would check Kromos. Today he said he found president/Bin laden read. Since Kromos was saying like what theWaaagh s methods from the day b4 seems like a logical town move to me. What is totally against Kromos normaly behaviour if he sees crap like that. I assume he thought of Thewaaagh as the mole and didn't want him out of the game.

It's only assuming. If Deathfire123 got checked up and he got that read he is the blackmailed President and can'T proof himself. Just a guess. Facto Kromos isn't helping Town at all. he doesn't even do stupid gambits so = scum

[CmG]

Oh and if Deathfire123 doesn't respond today with his i am cockblocked you can call him scum too.

[Escaho]

@BorkBot: Can the President still reveal if blackmailed?

I do wish we could eliminate the Arsonist today, however. Eliminating that threat through a lynching would create a 7v4 scenario with the mafia's KPN at 1 per night.

[Kromos]

It all depends on the Target who TheWaaagh checked last night. He said in the Nightchat that he would check Kromos. Today he said he found president/Bin laden read. Since Kromos was saying like what theWaaagh s methods from the day b4 seems like a logical town move to me. What is totally against Kromos normaly behaviour if he sees crap like that. I assume he thought of Thewaaagh as the mole and didn't want him out of the game.

It's only assuming. If Deathfire123 got checked up and he got that read he is the blackmailed President and can'T proof himself. Just a guess. Facto Kromos isn't helping Town at all. he doesn't even do stupid gambits so = scum

I did a stupid gambit in M-FM V and I didn't do one in M-FM IV. Honestly, I'm trying to get away from that stuff. Now leave me be while I read through the whole of FM 9 again.

[CmG]

@BorkBot: Can the President still reveal if blackmailed?

I do wish we could eliminate the Arsonist today, however. Eliminating that threat through a lynching would create a 7v4 scenario with the mafia's KPN at 1 per night.

I agree, but neither Waaagh or me have a clue on the Arso. Another point out of balance issues having the Lookout defect to the Terrorists. If i wasn't doused last night i will be doused this night for sure because i am the only town role who can still find him. Together with the sherriff.

[CmG]

oh sure and the investigator hur dur herp derp. Too many roles who can proof themself in this setup.

[Escaho]

So, we are currently assuming this:

Kromos: Godfather/Terrorist Leader
Goremancer: Blackmailer/Framer
GameFreak: Blackmailer/Framer
NanoSystem: Arsonist
McPwnage: Lookout/Mole

[Escaho]

Alright, I gotta head to bed.

Know this: there WILL be a lynch at some point today.

(Leaning towards NanoSystem simply because he may be the Arsonist, but he is definitely decidedly scummy).

[Kromos]

TheWaaagh didn't check me.

[Ubernox]

Wats going on

I'm waiting for a train, but there's none

It's equally possible that CmG has been accidentally framed by his own team, and is the mole. Heck, even waaagh could be the mole. I say we lynch whoever seems the best bet now, and if he turns out not to be evil the vigilante can take his shot.

[BorkBot]

Can the Arsonist still incinerate if he is role-blocked?

Yes, he can. Because he's not required to visit anyone for it.

Can the President still reveal if blackmailed?

Good question. No, he can't. He can only say "I am blackmailed" and/or vote 4 times.

[BorkBot]

A sheriff can not detect the Terrorist Leader, nor the Arsonist.

And the arsonist can't win with the terrorists (that might not be what you'd expect from the source material, but it's balanced that way).

[Goremancer]

I am not the blackmailer nor the framer. I can assure you. I am town. I"m too lazy to look this over but why are you guys assuming Kromos, Gamefreak and I? Just tell me.

[Escaho]

I-vote nanosystm

I won't be able to post much today, but here goes:

I think our lynch target today should be the arsonist. I recommend lynching NanoSystem (likely arso) unless he role claims. Lynching the mole is pointless now because the mafia have all the IMO we have. If we manage to kill the Arso, chances are we'll win.

The Arso cannot risk incinerating only Town or he will lose if we fail to lynch a mafia today (town will lose majority if he only incinerated town so mafia will kill him).

Therefore:

[Ubernox]

Therefore?

[TheWaaagh]

-vote Nanosystem

McPwnage should still be shot tonight.

[Ubernox]

-vote Nanosystem

[Kromos]

Hold lynch for a few hours or do you want another deathfire?

I will be analysing day 1 and 2, will be a few hours.

[Ubernox]

What do you mean "another deathfire"? We lynch nano now and shoot McPwnage tonight. If Escaho is blocked again, then we'll have a confirmed consort.

[Ubernox]

I really want deathfire to speak up today. No one been blackmailed today, has there?

[Kromos]

Another deathfire like when you lynched him in M-FM V before he even came on.

My thoughts before in depth analysis:

Goremancer is scum - mafia or arsonist. As town he accuses everyone and has never failed to use this tactic. As scum he stays quiet and doesn't risk accusing people.

TheWaaagh and CmG claim to be CTUs. TheWaaagh didn't check me but I think I know what he is doing. He said he checked Escaho night 1 and found vigi / mafioso. We have no ccs for investigator or vigi or CTU chat therefore TheWaaagh and CmG are CTUs and Escaho is the vigi. Both Waaagh and CmG claim McPwnage is a CTU which McPwnage denies therefore McPwnage is the mole as he claimed his name in CTU chat and both CTUs wouldn't be lying about this.

Ubernox claims CmG and Waaagh are mafia when we know that they are not. We have no sheriff ccs and deathfire isn't voting Ubernox therefore both have been framed.

GameFreak seems scummy as usual like he does when he is town. Need to read his posts closely.

[Kromos]

Has deathfire even come on once today?

[Goremancer]

I will reveal when the time is right. Until then, don't hammer me.

[Ubernox]

Ubernox claims CmG and Waaagh are mafia when we know that they are not. We have no sheriff ccs and deathfire isn't voting Ubernox therefore both have been framed.

1. I'm not claiming that CmG and Waaagh are scum. I'm just trying to explore all the possibilities.

2. Also, blackmailed people can still vote, so Deathfire not having voted yet proves nothing.

[Kromos]

Day 1 you get no info because you all decide to skip before doing anything that could be useful to find scum in retrospect.

The only thing we can analyse is why the mafia would want to blackmail deathfire. He posted first and said "dem lurkers gonna lurk" (an accusation which could trigger a response from a lurker). Regardless there is little reason why deathfire would be singled out that day, especially when they're much better, more talkative targets such as CmG, McPwnage and Escaho which is why I think he is faking it.

Still, because of the unhelpfulnes of day 1 he could have been random picked or picked by someone who either thinks he is a good player and would harm them if he could speak or bares a grudge against them, i.e. Goremancer from M-FM IV. However there is nothing to believe that deathfire is town as so far he has voted CmG (a CTU) who was later framed that night and has not cced any of the role claims today.

[Kromos]

I will reveal when the time is right. Until then, don't hammer me.

Why are you afraid of being hammered when there are no votes on you?

[Kromos]

Deathfire is here.

[Kromos]

Are you blackmailed??

[Kromos]

Did jaczac ever say he blocked CmG on night 1?

[Deathfire123]

I am Counterclaiming CmG

I am the DETECTIVE

He is lying, I followed CmG N1, and he visited me.
I was blackmailed N1.
I followed TheWaaagh last night, because he seemed to be buddying with CmG, and he visited Mopin.

[Deathfire123]

​-vote CmG

[Kromos]

After reading through day 2 and 3. I think that nanosystem (godfather), jaczac (consort) and GameFreak (framer) are mafia and Deathfire is the arsonist trying to signal the mafia.

[Kromos]

oh lol

[Deathfire123]

yeah