Cass seemed blindingly Town at this point in the game.
What were you seeing and be articulate about it.
We don't know who was recruited last night so I am hunting for CL rereading the day since that should be priority. Also, Everyone hasn't checked in today so I don't want to try and see differences in play until we get everyone to post more.
Mesk saying they are going to get sunburnt when it is March is kinda ??? and her just not going to be here could make her difficult to sort. Not saying she has to be Scum, but it is just a big fat question mark to me overall.
Mesk is going on vacation, I don't know why she would lie about that (especially since she talked to me out of this game about it yesterday) jsut for the sake of this game.
As far as cass I decided that I was just not liking her posts and there wasn't anything abnormally scummy about them and I was disliking their style/approach.
I also totally forgot they are in this game.
I don't think they would be likely target for conversion? But saying that I would think maybe that makes them more likely? WIFOM is hurting my head.
I can tell you I probably wouldn't convert them, if that helps.
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Quick i think is still very unlikely cult or cult recruited btw.
So I am never voting there today.
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@yzb25 come in here and have a chat with us man.
we got loads to talk about.
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I think if I was cultist my recruiting order would be something like this:
Ika, Yzb25, Quick, Mesk, Grylander, Cass, Stealthbomber
No offense stealth but I don't think i would trust you to be a cultist with me.
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I would have recruited FB.
I would have recruited SecondPassing... If he was Alive. (Second option is Meskerino)
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Why did you scumread Mesk, and why was this "townslip" enough to move your vote? How are you so confident she didn't actually read Matt's day 2 starting post? >.>
Anyway, yo I'm here. Holy shit activity was low.
Actually, this was a good reason to vote someone to be honest. A serious proposal to PL someone is scummy, in isolation. That's a good basis to push someone in the first 24 hours of day 1.
That said, I'm not sure why Ika proposed the conversion question though. That just contaminates everyone's minds with stupid WIFOM. If someone seems like they're converted then we can make a converted read. We shouldn't preemptively try and meta a CL we haven't even found >.>
In short, lynching the CL is the priority. Conversion reads are a nice complement but should be a background discussion.
I'm still firmly in the FB camp, obviously.
I like people say lets win today when its kind of harder to catch CL leader than their Cultist.
Anyways, Yzb25 I want an order of people you would recruit and maybe a why on each if you want.
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I don't mean to be uncooperative, but I literally just rambled on about how silly this conversation topic is. We should be talking about reads and trying to lynch scumreads.
Like, if you want a more impartial conversation partner that's fine, but it's important we hear about your reads. You were making all these shitty one liners about your reads and barely elaborated on anything.
Confronting a scum with such an obviously association-related question is going to make them think "Ooh how should I avoid that?" and then obviously they'll realize the best solution is to put their scumbuddy in a place that simply makes sense and give agreeable reasons as to why.
Ika's really into this setup stuff, so I won't judge him too fast, but in general these sorts of questions / conversation starters are shitty "oh look how town I am!" circlejerks that don't accomplish anything.
@Firebringer answer my question about mesk and give reads. If you're town, you want to start this conversation early so we don't get another shit lynch, remember?
This game is SO fucking slow right now.
@Quick Your Ika read is outdated and everyone townreads Ika. Refurbish your case or it'll never happen.
@ika Same to you regarding Quick - Most people TR him. Make a case.
@Mesk514 Noone seems to SR me but you, and noone seems to SR firebringer but me and you. Noone's even noticed Gyr. Share some of your reasoning or your lynches will never happen.
@Stealthbomber16 Explain how FB's posts felt towny to you, or my vote will basically be locked. Propose a lynch candidate.
@Gyrlander You have no right to be pissed about the SP lynch. You're like the guy who rages about election results but doesn't vote. Push a lynch.
Please. Pretty please. Pretty pretty please.
Your question on mesk is stupid.
Mesk is town because she hasn't changed at all from yesterday, she quoted she didn't have feedback and I honestly think maybe she likely didn't read it, even if thats a bad assumption. Chances of her being cult leader is low and cultist is lower.
Ika I have no strong feelings on, he could easily be cultist right now. He isn't around this day much so far (activity is w/e but he definitely should talk about why he isn't).
Quick feels exactly same as yesterday and honestly if he was scum I expect him to make super bad pushes, which I haven't seen yet.
Gyrlander and Stealth aren't getting converted as far as I think. If you want to make an argument for them being the CL go ahead, but not interested in focusing them at all. Grylander anger at SP lynch seems townie enough too.
Your fine enough for me today.
Cass isn't here at all, she could be cultist, but I don't think she is Cultist leader as I have already said.
Should I just copy and paste my "one liners" so you get the comprehensive list?
I am mostly repeating myself in here and its annoying.
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I have no idea why the fuck your refusing to answer my question when you demand i answer yours.
like the question has purpose.
Your question is asking me to basically repeat what I have already said.
I have no idea what your stances are on converts.
Because you don't answer that.
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Anyone could read what I said about mesk and why I think she "town slipped" and come to a decent conclusion of what is going through my mind (even if you don't agree with how I got there at all)
Your question was asking me to repeat that for......what? Do you disagree with me on Mesk?
I ask you who would you convert and what order and why because this game is about getting inside mind of cult leader and understanding their decisions.
Thats how you find cultists.
Thats how you find cult leader.
I don't understand how you think thats back ground noise at all.
Even if you think its all "WIFOM".
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Why did you vote Mesk? What made you want to vote her if her tone hadn't changed? You were townreading her, so it only makes sense if you were trying to lynch a converted.
I'm trying to minimize arguing with you, believe it or not, so I'll refrain from a wallpost reply lol.
Anyway:
You and Ika are the fun choices. You're loud and I had beef with you yesterday, so making you my alignment would be fun.
If I did Cass/Quick, I could chat with them about the game without breaking rules.
Mesk/Gyr/SB are the boring choices if you wanna gain a slow majority.
So something like:
1) You
2) Quick/Cass
4) Ika
5) Mesk/Gyr
6) SB
Not much obligation to "play hard" if you're solo neut and your teammates don't feel loyalty.
We still have people need to answer this question.
Ill look at most likely cultist/cult leader pair once I compile some notes.
I am wondering what you mean by "Ika would be a fun choice" but then Ika is number 4 for you?
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And to answer your question about why i voted mesk, I didn't like her entrance to the game, her just saying "I am going to go back between these three" seemed like her attempts to be lazy again for another day which I immediately thought was scummy, but from her. Meh.
I also thought she could be a cultist choice but I no longer think that.
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I really liked how FB posted because it just seemed like a natural town response, much like your townread on me, or to a lesser extent, ika. The one post that I really didn't like yesterday was the one where he supposedly went back to the setup to check to see what PR he just claimed. The time between him posting his PR claim and him saying "there are no PRs" was about 3 minutes, and to me that seems natural. But that's just one post, it may not convince you all the way.
Overall its just kind of a gut feeling, and the way he lead the mislynch on secondpassing may have been a mislynch but it was done in a balls deep fashion that no cult leader would do. Unless he was converted last night I seriously doubt fire is cult.
As for lynch candidate, I propose gyrlander with a backup option of mesk being a possible cultist.
I honestly think I would make a great cultist convert, and I am a little insulted that I wasn't converted.
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I originally townread FB for that post where he was like "fuck all my scumreads are dismantled". I respect tonereading him as town. However, with all townreads you have to question self-awareness/skill - i.e. "Does FB have the self-awareness/skill to make his tone sound towny anyway?" [yes]. So I disregarded the read as unreliable.
I get the feeling FB planned to do the TPR claim from early on and check the setup afterwards to see how fucked he was. I'm ignoring it as NAI lol.
FB made comments like "those who don't vote SP will be pushed tomorrow". It was hyperbolic, but it implies FB heavily townread SP, because he seemed to be naturally assuming SP wasn't CL, and the game wouldn't end after his lynch. Honestly, the vote looked like some kind of... erm... fuseblow. Anyway, you think scum!Firebringer lacks the balls to go balls deep?
What makes you think Gyr is scum?
"SB's inconsistent motivation (bouncing between being disinterested to suddenly caring when he realizes he actually doesn't want to get lynched and then back to losing interest) is not CLish. A CL would be uniform because he's holding all of his posts to a certain standard to make sure he doesn't get shit on. SB doesn't seem like someone who's got a uniform, consistent goal that he's trying to follow. He looks like a town who is struggling to find the time/motivation to dedicate enough effort to the game."
"Plus, the way he felt awkward pride about the Ika reaction test thing looked genuine AF. It felt like a series of emotions a scum wouldn't express unless they were really getting into pretending to scumhunt. I just wouldn't expect someone who's so all over the place to be able to focus so hard on being creating such a genuine towny reaction."
Even though there's a couple counter-hypotheses you can dredge out -
"SB was trying to play background CL but when he got called out he had to play more forefront but was able to slip back into the background when he could. The highly-natural-looking reaction to Ika in the moment was a moment of luck/skill."
"SB was completely aware of all of this and tailored his play to get these obscure townreads from me."
They seem less plausible than the "SB's posts are town having town emotions" explanation.
On the other hand, FB is a different ball game. In the 5 scum-games I've seen him play, he's sprinkled town emotion all over the place very effectively.
Also, FB is a very risk-averse and "epic" player. Him taking risks doesn't surprise me at all. Furthermore, the SP vote looked more like a fuse-blow anyway.
P.S. If you really think I'm capable of doing all this as scum then obviously you should put me in the null pile lol.
I've never seen Gyr as scum. Do you think his play this game resembles past experiences of scum!gyr?
I Ann off work now I'll be catching up shortly. Sw is driving me hard me so I'll read up and respond proper when I get home.
If there anything needed right away let me know