S-FM 204: Insanity

[yzb25]

Hey Iced, have you played with Paladin before? Could you tell me about him?

[Iced_Monopoly]

I'm not even sure if he's bloody reading. I have no idea whether I should continue to support this train given the conditions. If he's just not going to defend himself this will likely degenerate into a policy lynch. That's not necessarily a terrible idea, but it's still a bad idea if he flips town.

He's clearly having an off-game activity wise. He was always a little on the low side, but it was never this bad. He was also a decent contributor, even as scum.

urghhhh

I don't think I've ever played with him, so I'm not sure what to make of this, hes only been gone 12 hours so far.

Side note, we're around 40 hours through day 1 of a 72 hour day

[Kovath]

I'm not even sure if he's bloody reading. I have no idea whether I should continue to support this train given the conditions. If he's just not going to defend himself this will likely degenerate into a policy lynch. That's not necessarily a terrible idea, but it's still a bad idea if he flips town.

He's clearly having an off-game activity wise. He was always a little on the low side, but it was never this bad. He was also a decent contributor, even as scum.

urghhhh

I'm looking at this game and we have a number of hard lurkers, and then there are those with ~ok post #s but just spend it setup speccing or asking questions.

zzzzz

[Iced_Monopoly]

Hey Iced, have you played with Paladin before? Could you tell me about him?

I have not, havnt played in the last couple games where he seems to have returned, so best to get some info from someone else

[Iced_Monopoly]

I'm looking at this game and we have a number of hard lurkers, and then there are those with ~ok post #s but just spend it setup speccing or asking questions.

zzzzz

Uncertainty in other players and ourselves is stifling conversation. Typical day 1 plays are less effective, blah blah blah, you already know this.

How do you feel about mass claim and organised night actions

[Iced_Monopoly]

Guessing (hoping) taek is catching up and posting shortly. I'll be jumping off to bed pretty soon too

[yzb25]

I'm looking at this game and we have a number of hard lurkers, and then there are those with ~ok post #s but just spend it setup speccing or asking questions.

zzzzz

The lurking situation isn't terrible. It's not S-FM PM levels to say the least. We can work with it. This part of the day is slow because most people are in bed.

They're taking the time to check in, it's just a matter of catching them and questioning them. I'll try and figure out their hangout times and nicely request people to help out questioning some of the less actives. Even if we end up assigning an active scum to question a less active, it still won't be a completely pointless endeavor.

We don't need some idealistic grand town direction where we mass-reveal 'n' shit, we just need to support eachother a little in the questioning.

[yzb25]

The lurking situation isn't terrible. It's not S-FM PM levels to say the least. We can work with it. This part of the day is slow because most people are in bed.

They're taking the time to check in, it's just a matter of catching them and questioning them. I'll try and figure out their hangout times and nicely request people to help out questioning some of the less actives. Even if we end up assigning an active scum to question a less active, it still won't be a completely pointless endeavor.

We don't need some idealistic grand town direction where we mass-reveal 'n' shit, we just need to support eachother a little in the questioning.

[Obviously this is a plan for d2 not d1]

[Kovath]

Uncertainty in other players and ourselves is stifling conversation. Typical day 1 plays are less effective, blah blah blah, you already know this.

How do you feel about mass claim and organised night actions

Uncertainty is reasonable but not an excuse to do nothing. We all received role cards. We have no indication that those role cards are Lunatic cards. Our two choices for today are still the same; and if a slot is not even attempting to contribute then it's setting up a similar expectation from that slot for later days.

Let insanity reign.

[yzb25]

Hey Iced, have you played with Paladin before? Could you tell me about him?

This is directed at anyone who has anything meaningful to say about Paladin.

[Iced_Monopoly]

My vote has been sitting on paladin for the past 40 hours, only for lack of a better candidate (I'll admit he hardly qualifies as a candidate at all so far). Hopefully some progression is made while I'm asleep. Night.

[Taekyon]

Long-ish post incoming, here's my thought so far.

Spoiler : secondpassing :

Also,in regards to Taekyon's post, those numbers mean little to me because our goal is not to not lynch town.

"Our goal is not to not lynch town." So this guy want to lynch town?

Spoiler : GameFreak :

a day 1 train on me of all the people ? Wew lad.

-vote Taekyon

the only person that is pinging me as scummy today.

Trying to shift the vote train without any justification on why he voted on me except "you know, why not him?"

Spoiler : Eggy :

lets all get on the paladin lynch train. it will be fun for everyone I promise.

-vote ThePaladin

And then? Nothing. No contribution after this. "Random vote then I'm gone"

Spoiler : Spruance :

Sup fellow clinically insane. We should all take a second and imagine our lives if we lived out our lives in a mental facility. Or not. It's not a pretty sight.

This is his first on longest post as of now. seccondpassing voted him cause he's lurking hard

Since we all might as well be insane why not play the part?

-vote secondpassing

I don't trust him for blind voting me.

I see this as a random/revenge vote

Well it appears there won't be any steam for a secondpassing train.

I might as well contribute to one who has been scum a lot in the past.

-vote ThePaladin

If he wishes to hold bad blood who is an insane man to disagree?

After his failed attempt at shifting the train on him with secondpassing, he vote ThePaladin which already have some votes. But with a flawed logic of his past game. Irrelevent to this game

... what the fuck? What kind of reasoning is that?

No answer about this after being challenged by TheDarkestLight

Spoiler : Gyrlander :

JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE.

-vote Taekyon

Random vote on me for no apparent reason. Plus, he sided with GameFreak on that vote, knowing that he's a current target as of now. I see that as potential sinister helping another potential sinister

Any thoughts on the pressure votes on GF, the conversation between unknown and ice, or any other meaningless things we desperately convince ourselves have value to make the thought of our inevitable death more bearable?

Gyrlander never answered those question. No justification on his vote or why he doesn't vote for GameFreak. Possible buddying with GameGreak

Note that I did not tag anyone as sinister here because we can't be sure of anything as of now.
I am willing to put pressure on those above if needed.

[Unknown1234]

Tarkyon, I can tell you your GameFreak analysis isn't valid, but more of you being angry at him for voting you. If he wanted to shift the train he would have voted someone with more votes.

[Unknown1234]

Also, that is typical Gyrlander. If you want to lynch him, you're aiming for a policy lynch.

[Unknown1234]

although, I previously commented on his vote which almost slipped my mind.

-vote Eggy

Pressure time!

[Taekyon]

Tarkyon, I can tell you your GameFreak analysis isn't valid, but more of you being angry at him for voting you. If he wanted to shift the train he would have voted someone with more votes.

I'm not angry at anybody for voting me, it's part of the game.
I'm just stating that random voting someone isn't the right thing to do.

[Unknown1234]

I'm not angry at anybody for voting me, it's part of the game.
I'm just stating that random voting someone isn't the right thing to do.

I didn't say the random vote was fine, (although so many people have done it) but it was more of a counter on the "shifting trains"

[Taekyon]

Also, that is typical Gyrlander. If you want to lynch him, you're aiming for a policy lynch.

Unfortunately, I can't analyse people based on how they play other games.
I didn't play enough game for that.

[GameFreak]

I'm afraid i'm off to dinner and well i wont be able to acces the internet until around midday tomorrow.

my timezone is GMT+1 yzb

[yzb25]

I'm afraid i'm off to dinner and well i wont be able to acces the internet until around midday tomorrow.

my timezone is GMT+1 yzb

You are really toying with my patience. You don't even pretend to have an ounce of shame for drawing this out so much. At this point I'm starting to think you're doing this deliberately. Regardless, you're not getting any more attention than you deserve. Letting you live a little longer won't kill us.

-vote unvote

[yzb25]

although, I previously commented on his vote which almost slipped my mind.

-vote Eggy

Pressure time!

I'd rather we pressured Gyrlander today, Eggy seems to be (implying at least) that he's a little stymied by the gamemode. If he's still so disoriented on d2 we can consider further action.

[Spruance]

Long-ish post incoming, here's my thought so far.

Spoiler : secondpassing :

"Our goal is not to not lynch town." So this guy want to lynch town?

Spoiler : GameFreak :

Trying to shift the vote train without any justification on why he voted on me except "you know, why not him?"

Spoiler : Eggy :

And then? Nothing. No contribution after this. "Random vote then I'm gone"

Spoiler : Spruance :

This is his first on longest post as of now. seccondpassing voted him cause he's lurking hard



I see this as a random/revenge vote



After his failed attempt at shifting the train on him with secondpassing, he vote ThePaladin which already have some votes. But with a flawed logic of his past game. Irrelevent to this game



No answer about this after being challenged by TheDarkestLight

Spoiler : Gyrlander :

Random vote on me for no apparent reason. Plus, he sided with GameFreak on that vote, knowing that he's a current target as of now. I see that as potential sinister helping another potential sinister



Gyrlander never answered those question. No justification on his vote or why he doesn't vote for GameFreak. Possible buddying with GameGreak

Note that I did not tag anyone as sinister here because we can't be sure of anything as of now.
I am willing to put pressure on those above if needed.

How could anyone have justification at this point lmao

[ThePaladin]

Hey Iced, have you played with Paladin before? Could you tell me about him?

You could ask me persobally ya know

[RLVG]

Fuck this shit. I'm just not bothering to post my reads because I had this massive wall of text, browser crashed for no reason and all of it was fucking wiped.

Paladin, vad haret det gjæret mede deines synespunket åm dein flodoheste?

-vote Spruance

[ThePaladin]

Also, that is typical Gyrlander. If you want to lynch him, you're aiming for a policy lynch.

Is there a world we dont policy lynch if lynching in this setup?

[yzb25]

You could ask me persobally ya know

Feel free to answer it yourself! You just weren't on at the time is all!

As I said, directed at anyone.

[ThePaladin]

Feel free to answer it yourself! You just weren't on at the time is all!

As I said, directed at anyone.

Im town leader who solves gsme by d2 90percent of the time.
Im also known for always scumslipping if scum
Uhh lets seee


Im the Mad Scientist Hououin Kyouma,

Im also the reason why english only rules are a thing

I have changed site meta to include startegy bosrd games such as chess shogi and checkers to be part of mafia

Some other stuff

I also am usually highest poster and Calix. And Banana hates me

[ThePaladin]

Also I shoot nuclear arsenals at people who do anything remotely scummy

[RLVG]

Im also known for always scumslipping if scum

So you mentioning "dismantle the future", "causing WW3", "rewrite history", is it a scumslip? :troll:

]Our goal is to dismantle the established future. We're going to completely rewrite history and prevent these Sinister Mad Scientists From Letting Loose The Knowledge of Time Travel and Causing WW3.

[yzb25]

Also I shoot nuclear arsenals at people who do anything remotely scummy

Calix and banana dislike you? If that's because of your playstyle, please elaborate. If that's because of your personality, please do not :P

Explain, in a vague manner, the approach you take to try to figure out who has a scum rolecard and who doesn't. If you feel comfortable sharing strategies, I'd be happy to hear them.

[ThePaladin]

Calix and banana dislike you? If that's because of your playstyle, please elaborate. If that's because of your personality, please do not :P

Explain, in a vague manner, the approach you take to try to figure out who has a scum rolecard and who doesn't. If you feel comfortable sharing strategies, I'd be happy to hear them.

My approach is finding scum reads then ranking them rather than crossing off people as town reads

In other words my reads list usually is greater than t0percent shades of red and rarely and hard green

[ThePaladin]

50percent

[yzb25]

My approach is finding scum reads then ranking them rather than crossing off people as town reads

In other words my reads list usually is greater than t0percent shades of red and rarely and hard green

I see.

Do you believe in "slips"? (mainly talking about the kind where someone accidentally says "we" instead of "mafia", or in some other way accidentally indirectly implies they oppose town)

Or do your scumreads rely more on the tone and style of someone this game in relation to their "usual self"

Or do your scumreads rely more on the effects of an individuals actions (person X said "so and so" which, though looking benign, resulted in the town getting screwed in some manner)

You probably use all of these to a certain extent. I'm more interested in proportions.

[ThePaladin]

I see.

Do you believe in "slips"? (mainly talking about the kind where someone accidentally says "we" instead of "mafia", or in some other way accidentally indirectly implies they oppose town)

Or do your scumreads rely more on the tone and style of someone this game in relation to their "usual self"

Or do your scumreads rely more on the effects of an individuals actions (person X said "so and so" which, though looking benign, resulted in the town getting screwed in some manner)

You probably use all of these to a certain extent. I'm more interested in proportions.

No my slips are actual slips such as assuming someone is neutral or not part of one scum faction over another scum faction
Or claiming an anon night chat

I dont really see a good way to explain the rest

[yzb25]

No my slips are actual slips such as assuming someone is neutral or not part of one scum faction over another scum faction
Or claiming an anon night chat

I dont really see a good way to explain the rest

My slip example was bad. The examples you gave were actual examples of what I was thinking of when I said "slip" lol.

In regards to the other two, no pressure. I'm just trying to gauge how your gears turn, and the approach as a town you take to getting shit done. It's just, you're the kinda guy I misread because I fail to appreciate how he sees his own posts, and how he thinks this game should be played. I want to avoid a misunderstanding.

If you can come up with a good way to explain your strategy for tackling the other kinds of scumreads, hit me up. Right now, I get the feeling you have more of a "just go with it" approach, if I haven't misunderstood you.

Anyway, I'll ask one more:

How many times do you read posts? How often do you read key posts, do you reread the entire forum, exc.

That should be easier to answer.

[ThePaladin]

I generally re read the day during night phase
And rerrad everything else as I develop ideas of what strategums or lack thereof that people are doing


Rlvg is that broken norwegian or just dialect?

Ill answer the question ehenever I get back to,comp

[Spruance]

My role is Asylum Counselor so I'm the only role in the game that can't be scum... if you lynch me you are retarded lmao

[Unknown1234]

My role is Asylum Counselor so I'm the only role in the game that can't be scum... if you lynch me you are retarded lmao

Not exactly, but I don't doubt your claim. Policy lynching FTW! Really good work ThePaladin.

[Unknown1234]

-vote ThePaladin

[ThePaladin]

My role is Asylum Counselor so I'm the only role in the game that can't be scum... if you lynch me you are retarded lmao

I thought host said that a lunatic can get any role as their recieved role?

[ThePaladin]

-vote ThePaladin

Why am I being put at l3 when literally everyone on me says its just a placement vote

[Unknown1234]

Why am I being put at l3 when literally everyone on me says its just a placement vote

Because your playstyle is destructive and because I can. Why did you vote Spruance? I know this answer, and it's not much better then the people voting you.

[ThePaladin]

Because your playstyle is destructive and because I can. Why did you vote Spruance? I know this answer, and it's not much better then the people voting you.

I was the FIRST person to vote spruancr

Thats very different than being the fourth person to vote a guy for no reason

[ThePaladin]

Also spruance is my generic placement votr if not someone rlse

[Unknown1234]

I was the FIRST person to vote spruancr

Thats very different than being the fourth person to vote a guy for no reason

You voted to get rid of him by saying "he's gonna ruin the game for town again" my reasoning has a lot less stupidity involved.

[Unknown1234]

Seeing As This guy will inevitably screw us over if he is town.

-vote Spruance

This was your vote.

[ThePaladin]

You voted to get rid of him by saying "he's gonna ruin the game for town again" my reasoning has a lot less stupidity involved.

Do you understand what a placement vote is?

[ThePaladin]

This was your vote.

Do you understand what verbatim copypasta is?

[ThePaladin]

Pssst its the exact same post i msde in another game with spruance

[secondpassing]

Hi. I'm here.
I have a lot to sort through though.

-vote Ra