M-FM XXV Batman Gamethread

[MFM Kangaroo]

Alright so I'm totally here, and I had an idea pop into my head while driving and it might turn out to be a massive brain fart on my part, yet I want a second/third/fourth opinion.

The Riddler can kill as many times in the day as he wants to unless he fucks up, then he has to wait. So my suggestion is when there is someone we want lynched we force them to role-claim. This exposes them to the Riddler, and allows him to kill them, letting us save the lynch for someone else.

"But why the fuck would the Riddler do that? It only helps the Town, you're a fucking dumbass". Oh sure, but the Riddler wants to kill off people. Everyone would claim a Town role -unless they have balls and claim a neutral role, which the Riddler wouldn't want to kill, but I would lynch a neutral role anyways-. The Riddler wants to kill Town people, so if he was smart he would try to kill them.

"Why would he bother? We'd probably lynch the person that claims anyways, get gud skrub." Because if he does that and then we lynch someone else he's effectively gained two kills. Sure it might be a Mafia, but he can always side with the Joker, and if it's the Joker then he can always side with the Mafia. And if he person he targeted is the Joker or Mafia then well, he wouldn't have killed him.

"Yeah but if he fucks up three times he's revealed, the person could lie so why would he bother when he could fuck up?" The answer is in the question. If he messes up twice then obviously he would stop doing it. "But how would we know when he stops?" When he doesn't kill anyone anymore. Also if he simply chooses not to kill that person, then that is good for us since it results in one less KPN.

We either keep the Riddler mostly stagnant, or we effectively gain a second lynch.

"You're fucking scum, your plan just involves a fuck ton of townies getting killed." Sure this might happen, but we know if someone dies that they were telling the truth, and this allows us to scum hunt for the rest of the day. "But what if he saves it for the last minute?" Well then there is no difference between that and a lynch. Also, if we learn the person we were trying to lynch was in fact telling the truth about his role, and this gives us time to ponder and rethink what we were doing to potentially get a more accurate lynch the next time.

[MFM Snake]

Alright so I'm totally here, and I had an idea pop into my head while driving and it might turn out to be a massive brain fart on my part, yet I want a second/third/fourth opinion.

The Riddler can kill as many times in the day as he wants to unless he fucks up, then he has to wait. So my suggestion is when there is someone we want lynched we force them to role-claim. This exposes them to the Riddler, and allows him to kill them, letting us save the lynch for someone else.

"But why the fuck would the Riddler do that? It only helps the Town, you're a fucking dumbass". Oh sure, but the Riddler wants to kill off people. Everyone would claim a Town role -unless they have balls and claim a neutral role, which the Riddler wouldn't want to kill, but I would lynch a neutral role anyways-. The Riddler wants to kill Town people, so if he was smart he would try to kill them.

"Why would he bother? We'd probably lynch the person that claims anyways, get gud skrub." Because if he does that and then we lynch someone else he's effectively gained two kills. Sure it might be a Mafia, but he can always side with the Joker, and if it's the Joker then he can always side with the Mafia. And if he person he targeted is the Joker or Mafia then well, he wouldn't have killed him.

"Yeah but if he fucks up three times he's revealed, the person could lie so why would he bother when he could fuck up?" The answer is in the question. If he messes up twice then obviously he would stop doing it. "But how would we know when he stops?" When he doesn't kill anyone anymore. Also if he simply chooses not to kill that person, then that is good for us since it results in one less KPN.

We either keep the Riddler mostly stagnant, or we effectively gain a second lynch.

"You're fucking scum, your plan just involves a fuck ton of townies getting killed." Sure this might happen, but we know if someone dies that they were telling the truth, and this allows us to scum hunt for the rest of the day. "But what if he saves it for the last minute?" Well then there is no difference between that and a lynch. Also, if we learn the person we were trying to lynch was in fact telling the truth about his role, and this gives us time to ponder and rethink what we were doing to potentially get a more accurate lynch the next time.

In theory this sounds cool, but, even if he agreed, the Riddler will probably either a) get fucked over beacuse everyone who is about to be lynched fakeclaims to waste his guess, or b) not guess at all and force a day wasted on a mislynch. I dunno.

[MFM Kangaroo]

In theory this sounds cool, but, even if he agreed, the Riddler will probably either a) get fucked over beacuse everyone who is about to be lynched fakeclaims to waste his guess, or b) not guess at all and force a day wasted on a mislynch. I dunno.

True but once he fucks up even once he could easily stop. Also a town person would not fake claim, that would be a scummy thing to do, so in the event that they don't die we can be decently sure they aren't who they say they are. And if it turns out they were Town and the Riddler just didn't bother... well he/she was going to die either way.

[MFM Snake]

True but once he fucks up even once he could easily stop. Also a town person would not fake claim, that would be a scummy thing to do, so in the event that they don't die we can be decently sure they aren't who they say they are. And if it turns out they were Town and the Riddler just didn't bother... well he/she was going to die either way.

Hmm, interesting. Too bad we can't get personal approval from the Riddler himself, I mean, it would be hard to tell if he had opted to guess and failed or he just didn't go for it. I don't see why a role like the Riddler would try to side with town anyway, it's not like he can win with us.

[MFM Kangaroo]

Bad idea.

Due to my aggressiveness, I normally get placed dangerously close to lynch and I always role claim and then vehemently defend myself to make sure no mislynch happens. Implementing your idea makes it so I can either fake claim and get mislynched or stick to my guns and claim my role and get shit on by the Riddler.

Both result in you dying, what difference does it make? All it does is potentially allow us a second lynch.

Hmm, interesting. Too bad we can't get personal approval from the Riddler himself, I mean, it would be hard to tell if he had opted to guess and failed or he just didn't go for it. I don't see why a role like the Riddler would try to side with town anyway, it's not like he can win with us.

I'm not say we rely on it. It's more of an idea that "if it happens it works out for us". It does benefit the Riddler in a way in that he can kill a Town and potentially

[MFM Kangaroo]

Both result in you dying, what difference does it make? All it does is potentially allow us a second lynch.



I'm not say we rely on it. It's more of an idea that "if it happens it works out for us". It does benefit the Riddler in a way in that he can kill a Town and potentiallysee a second Town fall. It has ups and downs for both parties.

Derp, somehow cut off while I was typing...

[MFM Snake]

Both result in you dying, what difference does it make? All it does is potentially allow us a second lynch.



I'm not say we rely on it. It's more of an idea that "if it happens it works out for us". It does benefit the Riddler in a way in that he can kill a Town and potentially

If he played along, it would be awesome, but I just don't see the Riddler as a role doing such a thing, as he only has three times he can miss. If we get a roleclaim out of someone about to be lynched, we can see if he kills them assuming they've even looked at the game since the last month or so.

[MFM Kangaroo]

If he played along, it would be awesome, but I just don't see the Riddler as a role doing such a thing, as he only has three times he can miss. If we get a roleclaim out of someone about to be lynched, we can see if he kills them assuming they've even looked at the game since the last month or so.

That is a problem, but it's a side note. As I said its a "if it happens it works out for us, yay" thing.

Also I know investigative roles should not be outing due to getting killed every five minutes yet in the event they do would you think it smart for them to simply say "I'm an investigative role and got so and so as scum" not giving any details as to how they know. This would give the Riddler a 1/3 (1/4 if you consider Escort) chance. Which wouldn't be in his favor to guess.