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  • 4pics1word/Noctiz

    1 11.11%
  • Piano Tiles/Ika

    0 0%
  • Bloons TD/Louiswill

    0 0%
  • Words with Friends/Titus

    2 22.22%
  • SnapChat/Banshis

    0 0%
  • Fall Down/Helios

    0 0%
  • iFunny/xRavenx

    0 0%
  • Candy Crush Saga/Bahkieh

    1 11.11%
  • QuizUp/Fontisian

    0 0%
  • Tapatalk/Gyver

    1 11.11%
  • Cut the Rope/MathBlade

    0 0%
  • Flappy Bird/ThinkLiveLife

    0 0%
  • Instagram/42shadow42

    0 0%
  • Temple Run/Fatalis

    0 0%
  • Angry Birds/Suzanne

    0 0%
  • Clash of Clans/Citrus

    0 0%
  • 2048/Apocist

    0 0%
  • Vine/Nicole

    0 0%
  • Kik/Gerik

    4 44.44%
  • Fruit Ninja/deathworlds

    0 0%
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  1. ISO #1351

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Clash of Clans View Post
    Honestly Instagram is spot on here.

    The only thing is I find it hard to believe someone who's scum could keep up the level + emotion of your posting as you have the entire game. That's the town-point that's preventing me from scumreading you
    Remember the Witch last Major FM?

  2. ISO #1352

  3. ISO #1353

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clash of Clans View Post
    Also, you were wrong earlier Flappy Bird or whoever about scum would be scared of lynching Jester. Town is scared of it, scum literally want it to occur for the extra death
    Yes I was wrong. I overlooked the Jester role card because I expected it to be the same as every other jester. Dedicating a jester kill to a town player is not something I have seen before. That point you brought out dropped my position quite a bit. I am just digging though some things.

    And I would really like to hear more thoughts on Temple Run. 26 posts gives a much stronger analysis than 6. Regardless of how good you are at scum hunting killing a player off 6 posts is just a "lynch the lurker" move. Not a "Lynch the probable scum"
    I kind of want to flip over to vote Kik but that is a tough sell for a late game train and a no-lynch would be so much worse for us than any other move..

    And is your vote on Angry because half his posts were in opposition of you? He is the only lurker that called you scum.

  4. ISO #1354

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Also, my line regarding CtR referred to this post and Quizup line:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    OMG...I leave for a quick bite to eat before my afternoon call and this happens...I'm with Clash I'm crying over the amount of derp in this thread, albeit for different reasons.

    Although with Flappy Bird trying to help remove some of this derp and the unlikeliness of them getting lynched I will give a break for now and sleep on it.

    My order of priority for lynches are:
    Fruit Ninja -- remove a conf scum. If they are jestered (which IMO I will suggest a mechanics change to the mod after this if they are) then their entire purpose is to troll and not care and not be helpful keeping them on will hurt our chances at removing scum because they don't care and may not even vote. The more we wait the more likely it is we lose.
    Temple Run / Instagram -- My two top scum reads.
    Quizup -- Pretty confident they are the Serial Killer. However I'd prefer to get rid of scum first.
    No lynch -- With the other possibilities present maybe going a flat no lynch is possible. It's unlikely there is a detainer in the scum as no two mafia kill the first night. This would put the cards in the serial killers hands which IMO they have to try to hit mafia to stay alive. If mafia overtake town and the serial killer, it is likely that they will lose as well. I hate that this gives us no information though and hopes the serial killer kills mafia...But it's better than the last option to me.
    Anyone lurking -- Not enough evidence here to pick one lurker over another. This would be the equivalent of Russian Roulette and I don't like it. Informed arguments people.
    If we get to anything lower than this, it's not getting my vote.

    -vote Fruit Ninja


    Changing my vote just in case I have to leave for my call.

  5. ISO #1355

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clash of Clans View Post
    Can someone lend me a hand, I need to face palm but I've run out of hands to do so with.

    A) He's NOT against us. Scum are against us. He just wants to be lynched
    B) "he's against us" "we have to give him his win condition" are you seriously high?
    THIS IS THE ARGUMENT I BROUGHT UP ABOUT ANGRY BIRDS. YOU LITERALLY ARE USING IT ON SOMEONE THAT'S ACTUALLY USING THEIR VOTE
    THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT I'M SAYING WITH ANGRY BIRDS

    @) We are told who receives the gun. We could tell them who to hit exactly, and then lynch them if they don't because then they are scum
    First of all -- A) was in reference to your A) was that his win con changed. If they are wanting the serial killer to win then yes they are against us.
    B) If anyone is a jester then they are against town. Their goal is to get lynched. They will not do anything other than try to get lynched. This means they can't be counted upon to do anything AND still count as a head in our required lynch total. When we're already struggling to get a majority on things it is another obstacle to overcome.

    For example if 13 players 1 jester this means 8 votes to lynch. But if that jester wasn't around it'd be 7.

    About why not a push for Quizup -- While I'm pretty confident Quizup is the SK I'm also pretty confident that Instagram is scum. I was also confident Vine was scum. Sometimes it's not about what I believe but it's about what is the right play. IMO that's Fruit Ninja right now, followed by Instagram. The reason being is that I don't see Quizup being scum, only the serial killer after today's events. If I'm wrong then we lose one of the better townies in the game. Because of the respect for the player I suspect is behind Quizup's ID it makes me wait a bit longer. Where as Fruit Ninja/Instagram have not been helpful to town at all for most of today. Instagram only started picking up at the end of the day and continues to spread bullshit.

    And seriously? Am I high? BEFORE A WORK CALL? WTF DUDE!

    And if you scumread me you do. I'm confident that I'm not scum and that town can see it. If town lynches my ass because they are too fucking stupid then the derp has hit an all time new low. I'll still fight and scream and demonstrate that I'm town but if you want to believe a person who hasn't contributed a goddamn thing over a person who has spent hours putting together probabilities and arguments and fighting for what they believe then that's your own stupidity. I can't fix stupid but I sure as hell can try to stop it.

  6. ISO #1356

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Flappy Bird View Post
    Yes I was wrong. I overlooked the Jester role card because I expected it to be the same as every other jester. Dedicating a jester kill to a town player is not something I have seen before. That point you brought out dropped my position quite a bit. I am just digging though some things.

    And I would really like to hear more thoughts on Temple Run. 26 posts gives a much stronger analysis than 6. Regardless of how good you are at scum hunting killing a player off 6 posts is just a "lynch the lurker" move. Not a "Lynch the probable scum"
    I kind of want to flip over to vote Kik but that is a tough sell for a late game train and a no-lynch would be so much worse for us than any other move..

    And is your vote on Angry because half his posts were in opposition of you? He is the only lurker that called you scum.
    Sounds like an honest mistake, I suppose I can forgive you.

  7. ISO #1357

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Instagram View Post
    I find Cut The Rope and Flappy Bird highly suspicious for trying to swing a late game Fruit Ninja lynch without any explanation.
    I expressed that I would go for a fruit lynch very early in the day unless "A more viable lynch presented itself"

    To be blunt I am willing to go in other directions. I am not willing to go in the direction of Angry Bird. As I have said a few times- If we are lynching a lurker it should be Temple. My FoS on this player is real. Not some "he is quite" bullshit. I could also go for a lynch on Kik. The only way I see him as town is if he somehow got his teeth sunk so far into Quizup he lost site of all counter logic and although I would not eliminate the possibility of Quizup as the Dooms Day Killer I do not think that is the case right now.

    Clash of Clans- Please reconsider your position. This is only such a split fucked off mess because you are making it that way. There has to be some other direction you are willing to go. A coin toss is a shit end of day action.

  8. ISO #1358

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    I'd like to draw attention to these 3 posts. That is all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Instagram View Post
    Snap, I missed the start of the day.

    Hello everyone, I for one like the idea of peacefuls claiming out the gate, as such I would like to claim peaceful.

    Enjoyed the pleasant discussion today, glad to see the trolls aren't in full force like usual. It gives me plenty of hope for how this game will turn out. I hope we can all maintain this atmosphere for the rest of the game, instead of resorting to the all too familiar mud slinging of the past.

    Reading through I have yet to develop many reads, however one read strikes me quite strongly despite the current situation in the day. As such I would like to express my FOS on Fruit Ninja. I also was quite surprised by the fake vote from Quizip. If only I could know what was going through his mind.

    I would like to formally thank the hosts for obliging my request to modify the production increment to 1 instead of .5. I mean did they seriously expect us to be good at math and stuff? This change will make it so much easier for me to divide my production efficiently amongst the various constructions projects.

    Focusing my thoughts further on the various construction projects. I completely agree with rushing the Extraterrestrial Colonization, furthermore I would like to elaborate on the strategy. All Peaceseekers should contribute exactly 4 production tonight. All Peacefuls should contribute all 6 production. This provides a minimum production of 66! Meaning if a Peaceseeker gets Filibustered we will still complete the project!

    Futhermore, this provides Peaceseeker PRS the additional benefit of NOT BEING REVEALED! It gives the Warmongers the dilemma of killing the confirmed Peaceful or attempting to hit a hidden Peaceseeker PR.

    -vote Fruit Ninja
    Quote Originally Posted by Instagram View Post
    Anyways just checking in again, I'm a little bit surprised TBH at the weight on the Fruit Ninja train, it makes me much more confident in my read. As for other news, Cut the Rope has attracted my eye, mainly because he seems to be off the wall, over the night I intend to investigate him carefully and see what I can come up with.

    P.S. Tapatalk you amuse me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Instagram View Post
    Hooray we have a confirmed Warmonger

    -vote Vine


    By this time the Sheriff is no doubt at 0 happiness so we need to complete the World Congress so he can keep investigating without suffering a penalty.

    As before PR roles should go 4 Production - 4 Production. Peacefuls like me should contribute 8 to attempt to get the extra vote. I doubt any Warmongers put any production into it.

  9. ISO #1359

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    @Clash of Clans
    If you are so sure why not say why Angry Birds is scum? Put together a real FoS. A player of your caliber should have zero problem drawing this out. I read through your posts and I do not see logic from you on this vote. It makes me question why you want this player lynched so bad.

    If you are willing to look at other options who? There must be other players you see as scum and would be willing to lynch. As a town if players obligate themselves to 1 lynch it creates a dead lock which is how no lynch days happen. Lets not have a no-lynch day. I believe the other votes on Angry are mostly sheeping you. If your vote changed that train would die.

  10. ISO #1360

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    Which means we have to lynch him NOW.

    if A) He's against us. Plain and simple.
    B) If he is a jester then we have to give him his win condition in the interest of town preservation. There's no guarantee he will vote, post, or do anything to help town win. At that point it is dead weight. It would be our fault collectively as town for not hitting him day one. But if we take the hit and get rid of the researcher and the town now we have some of a chance of knowing the votes will be active.

    If we take a look at worst case scenario and never lynch Fruit Ninja and get to end game where one vote makes or breaks it we're boned. Sometimes we have to take our medicine and this looks like some pretty nasty medicine for not coming together and lynching their ass day one.

    @Clash -- On the hunger games gun, we have no guarantee that gun will go to a town player. It could go to scum. Again it's more Russian Roulette. With the numbers right now giving potential scum a gun is a bad sign. Also why the fuck would we discuss wonder plans in front of potential scum? I should just go buy some vinyl and break it because #brokenRecord.
    If we take a loot at worstcase scenario and never lynch scum and get to end game where one vote makes or breaks it we're boned

    Oh hey look, did you see what I did there?

  11. ISO #1361

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flappy Bird View Post
    @Clash of Clans
    If you are so sure why not say why Angry Birds is scum? Put together a real FoS. A player of your caliber should have zero problem drawing this out. I read through your posts and I do not see logic from you on this vote. It makes me question why you want this player lynched so bad.

    If you are willing to look at other options who? There must be other players you see as scum and would be willing to lynch. As a town if players obligate themselves to 1 lynch it creates a dead lock which is how no lynch days happen. Lets not have a no-lynch day. I believe the other votes on Angry are mostly sheeping you. If your vote changed that train would die.
    I don't like the lynch on Fruit Ninja
    I did not properly consider the arguments against Kik until around today IRL
    I still think Cut the Rope is town

    That only leaves Piano Tiles with current votes.

  12. ISO #1362

  13. ISO #1363

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    ALL
    Would you be willing to consider a Temple Run lynch?
    1) Flappy Bird has an FoS for Temple Run possible scum
    2) I have suspected Temple Run scum
    3) Instagram has suspected Temple Run scum

    Have yet to do analysis on all the other players but at least three players may go for it.


    -- Responses to other posts --


    @Instagram -- If you have a point fucking make it! We're running out of time and town derp is fucking everywhere. Highlighting the posts I think make you scum is fucking stupid because I've already highlighted an argument using those posts as to why. Then again I think you are fucking scum so I don't expect you to be helpful here. Either shit or get off the pot.

    1) Suggesting production publically day one..STUPID!
    2) Results of an investigation that you never gave.
    3) Again repeatedly discussed.

    @Clash -- But in your scenario at least everyone alive will have had a chance to help win it. If we use your logic then the only way to kill Fruit Ninja is with a gun that we may never get to and if we do may not go to town. If no construction has gone on HG at all then what happens is by the time we finally build it, give a gun to a player and they are scum we will have probably lost one or two days. Days that I don't know if we can get back from lynching one scum especially if a jester is still here.

  14. ISO #1364

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    So I looked a bit on what Angry Birds postet so far (wasnt that hard with 6 total posts, were 2 of them were for voting Vine) and I can aggree in voting for him now,
    thought Fruit Ninja is a safe choice atm, he cant possible be at 3 unhappines,
    everyone starts with 1 with his night action regardless how many ppl he visits (since it is only 1 night action) he loses 1,
    meaning after 2 nights he is at 1 unhappines at max.

    Due to that i will vote frauit ninja for now.
    -vote Fruit Ninja


    To that the doomsday killer is at 0 happines atm, since he did nothing n1 = +1 happines = 2 total, night 2 kill + additional kill -2 = 0.
    Meaning if he kills this night he will lose his immunity = very unlikely to happen.

    Also we shouldnt forget that the warmongers have to deal with the happines mechanic too, from what i saw the Witch (WWF) did nothing at least n1,
    meaning others had to go for the kill/using their action, wich decreased their happines already,
    sure with good handleling and always having one that does nothing at night they can handle it,
    thought it puts us in a better position.

    That are just my opinions atm, I wont pick up the wars between diffferent players now, for the moment, since it mostly looked like (blahblahblah this guy posted not enough he is scum, he was buddying with someone i believe is scum so he is scum and picking on things that could have been typos/misunderstandings).

  15. ISO #1365

  16. ISO #1366

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Could you at least throw out some kind of logic? Anything at all on Angry Birds? These last few hours are giving me a real bad feeling about you.

    If nothing else tell me my FoS on Temple is shit (post 127. Say you have him pegged as town. Say ANYTHING that resembles some kind of logic at all in any direction. What the hell is going on in your head right now? You are a better player than this.

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  18. ISO #1368

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Flappy Bird View Post
    Could you at least throw out some kind of logic? Anything at all on Angry Birds? These last few hours are giving me a real bad feeling about you.

    If nothing else tell me my FoS on Temple is shit (post 127. Say you have him pegged as town. Say ANYTHING that resembles some kind of logic at all in any direction. What the hell is going on in your head right now? You are a better player than this.
    Did you miss the part where Words with Friends acknowledged Angry Birds as his scumbuddy?

    Words with Friends attacked people over many little things. The two people he didn't attack over good reasons: Angry Birds and Kik.

  19. ISO #1369

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Town (10/14) [+2]:
    Clash of Clans
    Tapatalk
    Candy Crush Saga
    iFunny
    Snapchat
    Vine

    Quizup
    Cut the Rope
    Flappy Bird
    4pics1word

    [Instagram]
    [Kik]
    ?
    ?


    Neutral (1/1):
    Fruit Ninja

    Doomsday (0/1):
    {2048, Instagram, 4pics1word, Piano Tiles}

    Mafia (1/4):
    Words with Friends
    {Bloons TD, Instagram, Angry Birds, 2048, Temple Run, Piano Tiles}
    {Bloons TD, Instagram, Angry Birds, 2048, Temple Run, Piano Tiles}
    {Bloons TD, Instagram, Angry Birds, 2048, Temple Run, Piano Tiles}

    Bright green is confirmed
    Light blue is strong town read
    Dark blue is weak town read (1 post or replacement)
    Yellow/Red is nigh positive/confirmed
    Violet is Process of Elimination pool of remaining players for each remaining slot[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]

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  22. ISO #1372

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Quizup View Post
    Did you miss the part where Words with Friends acknowledged Angry Birds as his scumbuddy?

    Words with Friends attacked people over many little things. The two people he didn't attack over good reasons: Angry Birds and Kik.
    I did not see that when I read through all of his posts. But I also doubt a scum would be so brazen as to name his team mates in the open in hopes of reverse psychology working in his favor. Its more likely to be a trap.

    Would you be willing to consider a Temple lynch?

  23. ISO #1373

  24. ISO #1374

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Flappy Bird View Post
    Well just to throw it out there.

    The train on Angry Birds has less logic than the bad lynch on Vine had.

    Can a single person on this train give any reasoning at all? I am not saying he is not scum. I am saying this lynch is bullshit.
    He had a post early on, and apologized for not being around.

    He popped in to say me and Vine are scum. There has got to be some semblance of scum on that train on Vine, no way all town mislynched that.

    He gave bare minimum contribution. I'm not FoSing him for calling me out. I'm doing it for an obvious accusation "Clash of Clans voted mayor, that looks suspicious guys." Like it was literally worded to make him look like he was contributing, he didn't even pursue it

    Today with pressure he gets defensive and what, leaves for the entire day over 2 posts? He also does not place a vote, meaning we now have evidence even if he is town he won't be around to vote/actually play

    Additionally he didn't apologize for not being around at all today, just got defensive rather than say anything about low activity. It is giving me the impression he's actively lurking.

    My money said if he got up to like L-2 he'd suddenly appear to post a defense again. But no, the train was derailed so he can just continue to not post at all

  25. ISO #1375

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Guys I really think that Fruit Ninja is NOT jestered yet. They are voting for Angry Birds. If they are the jester they are playing against win-con by voting for anyone and acting as scummy as possible or just posting random shit to get to end game. Their play doesn't make sense for a jestered researcher.

    I'm with Flappy on this. Angry Birds looks like a horrible horrible play and that the NK analysis I did earlier points to this lynch attempting to happen.

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  28. ISO #1378

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    Guys I really think that Fruit Ninja is NOT jestered yet. They are voting for Angry Birds. If they are the jester they are playing against win-con by voting for anyone and acting as scummy as possible or just posting random shit to get to end game. Their play doesn't make sense for a jestered researcher.

    I'm with Flappy on this. Angry Birds looks like a horrible horrible play and that the NK analysis I did earlier points to this lynch attempting to happen.
    *cries*

    Stop. Please. Just stop. Stop saying things are against win condition. Seriously stop.

    IF IT RESULTS IN HIM BEING LYNCHED, HE GOT YOU. IT'S ALWAYS PLAYING TO WIN CONDITION. NEVER ASSUME SOMEONE IS NOT PLAYING TO THEIR WIN CONDITION OR THEY CAN TRICK YOU

    /megarant

  29. ISO #1379

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Flappy Bird View Post
    @Fall down and Instagram

    Would you guys consider a Temple Run lynch? I have some actual reasoning behind it.
    Show the reasoning and I'll consider it

    Quote Originally Posted by Clash of Clans View Post
    I would be alright with a Temple Run or Angry Birds lynch today.

    Either one of them is scum, or one of my townreads on the Vine train is scum, or somehow all town managed to lynch Vine (possible since mayor takes up 3 of the necessary votes)

  30. ISO #1380

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Clash of Clans View Post
    I would be alright with a Temple Run or Angry Birds lynch today.

    Either one of them is scum, or one of my townreads on the Vine train is scum, or somehow all town managed to lynch Vine (possible since mayor takes up 3 of the necessary votes)
    On the chance fruit visited nobody and nobody visited him I would favor Temple over Fruit.

    -vote Temple Run
    Although I should have pushed it much earlier so he could have time to defend. It makes a lot more sense than the direction the current train is going.

  31. ISO #1381

  32. ISO #1382

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Flappy Bird View Post
    On the chance fruit visited nobody and nobody visited him I would favor Temple over Fruit.

    -vote Temple Run
    Although I should have pushed it much earlier so he could have time to defend. It makes a lot more sense than the direction the current train is going.
    He was either X = 3 or X = 4 as I got no feedback

    *waits on Flappy Bird's reasoning*

  33. ISO #1383

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Flappy Bird View Post
    Post 70 Logical post
    Post 76 Questioning Vine
    Post 83 Laughing at Vine
    Post 105 Questioning Vine
    Post 111 Calling Fruit Ninja Dumb, Mechanics logic
    Post 112 Question to Instagram that insinuates he wanted peaceseekers to reveal.
    Post 172 Questioning Fruit Ninja on his scum hunting
    Post 173 Saying "We have 19" would be everyone but the SK.. This post is interesting. Its quoting Fall Down
    Post 280 Pretty much asking for someone to dictate production for the town. Very odd.
    Post 492 Votes vine, Calls his reads shit.
    Post 493 Calls vine a Warmonger
    Post 512 Asking Cut the Rope to clarify
    Post 514 Asking Instagram to answer a question (Submitted on post 112)
    Post 519 Insinuating that Instagram scum slipped by calling vine confirmed scum
    Post 688 Justifys his vote on Vine using the reasoning presented in instagrams question
    Post 691
    Post 1159

    Post 1203 Asks Cut the rope to stop making walls. (What the fuck?)
    Post 1208 Justify small, easy to read posts, Defends Kik
    Post 1209 Says small posts help the lurkers/calls himself a lurker
    Post 1214 "I'm not insistent on you being quiet plz learn 2 read"
    post 1216 Says he disagreed with the logic of "Vine lured = scum" (I did not see this logic in his posts at all)

    If you look at this players posts early on he is especially "Trendy". The majority of his posts stay trendy- They are hits on Vine, Instagram, and Fruit Ninja. You will also find that none of his posts have any risk of bringing him into the spot light. When he challenges a post he does it "quietly" so as not to offend (Like post 512 on cut the rope).

    Then when he finally FoS's Vine it plays out like this-
    Instagram asks for logic by players who voted on vine
    Temple Run uses the logic presented in Instagrams question to back up his vote.

    Everything this player does is soft. Its a real effort to stay in the shadows and off everyone's radar. The majority of his posts are small and content is lacking. His thoughts are not original and he shows little desire to scum hunt.

    I would be interested to see anyone make a case that this player is town. He would probably be my most comfortable scum peg at the moment. An argument could be made for him being aligned with Kik if we get to see his role flip at some point.
    My previous FoS

  34. ISO #1384

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    I get a bad vibe from how he hides. The second you called him out he showed up and posted enough to get off the radar just to disappear again. Its like he was actively reading the thread but not posting.

    More than that he sticks on pre-set trains. His thoughts are not original and he uses anyone's words but his own. All in all I read it as inexperienced scum trying too hard to hide.

  35. ISO #1385

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    @Clash -- https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post450831
    That is by Flappy Bird and is a PBPA.

    I also expressed concerns based on some of the wording that Temple had earlier in the day. Trying to get people not to explain their reasoning in the way they like it is crazy.

    And I will always assume people play to their win con. Even rude players I know can be selfish but they at least try to win the game. If they don't play the game to win I don't want to play with that player.

    -vote Temple Run

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  37. ISO #1387

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Angry Birds (4 [L-4]):
    Quizup, Clash of Clans, Kik, Fruit Ninja
    Cut the Rope (1 [L-7]):
    Instagram
    Piano Tiles (1 [L-7]):
    Bloons TD
    Temple Run (2 [L-6]):
    Flappy Bird, Cut the Rope
    Fruit Ninja (1 [L-7]):
    Fall Down

    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    @Clash -- https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post450831
    That is by Flappy Bird and is a PBPA.

    I also expressed concerns based on some of the wording that Temple had earlier in the day. Trying to get people not to explain their reasoning in the way they like it is crazy.

    And I will always assume people play to their win con. Even rude players I know can be selfish but they at least try to win the game. If they don't play the game to win I don't want to play with that player.

    -vote Temple Run
    Second time I lol'd (not relevant, I'll bring it up post-game)

    @Flappy Bird

    Looking through his posts again, I think I just skimmed that argument earlier

  38. ISO #1388

    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Fall Down View Post
    I saw your reasoning Flappy, looks good, but it bothers me a bit that you want to get the train on someone else near the end of the day now.
    Anyway, if he should flip town, it makes you the main suspect so yeah guess i will trust you there.
    Btw dont forget im 100% scum.
    -vote Temple Run
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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Fall Down View Post
    I saw your reasoning Flappy, looks good, but it bothers me a bit that you want to get the train on someone else near the end of the day now.
    Anyway, if he should flip town, it makes you the main suspect so yeah guess i will trust you there.
    Btw dont forget im 100% scum.
    -vote Temple Run
    I guess I raged my little heart out over the issue but I can not stand mindless lynches. My original vote on Angry Birds was a pressure vote. He could be scum but it would be a lynch off 6 posts and the only logic point was brought out by Instagram. The day we start randoming our lynches is the day we should just start placing random votes at the day's start and skipping discussion altogether.

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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Angry Birds

    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Birds View Post
    First, hello to all.
    Second, I would like to agree with Cut the Rope's points regarding assumption of roles (Though not taking any out considmoration). We'll have more to go on after Night 1. Also i second your opposition to the waving of certain parts of the body on this forum.
    First post is repetitive mechanics talk on the ninth page of the game. He has no scumhunting to contribute, and instead falls back on an easy townie looking thing and buddying Cut the Rope.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Birds View Post
    Hello again. I apologize for the lack of much activity here so far.

    Clash of Clans... voting to lynch Candy Crush Saga because you can? So you're just wasting your vote? I can't think of a reason for a peaceseeker to suggest the lynch of a confirmed peaceseeker.. regardless of the knowledge that it would not happen.

    On Day 2 it seems most likely to me that Vine is scum, judging by past posts.

    <vote>Vine</vote>
    When he finally comes back, he apologizes for his absence (which implies a high level of self-awareness), makes a vague accusation against Vine to jump on an already inevitable lynch, and makes a singularly terrible point against Clash.

    Then there’s this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Words with Friends View Post
    i was wondering if you would notice angry birds did the same thing as well. there have been a few people who miraculously have shown up and said "yup vine's scummy and should be the lynch" well after it was effectively decided.
    It shows that 1.Words with Friends was paying close attention to Angry Birds but not attacking him and 2. Words with Friends was concerned that Clash may attack Angry Birds over the jump on the Vine wagon.

    Words with Friends saw that Angry Birds was scummy, but waited for someone else to bring it up in the hope that it wouldn’t be noticed at all.

    Oh, and look at this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Words with Friends View Post
    on it.

    briefly from memory: snapchat, 4pics, angry birds, piano tiles, temple run all appear only when no debate is happening.

    ifunny, bloonstd and fall down have posted nothing memorable today.

    town: clash, kik, flappy, 2048 + the obvious

    unknown: cut the rope, quizup

    scum: instagram
    You’ll notice that Falls Down, Kik and Angry Birds are all sorted into different categories, and all in different places in those categories. This was contrived.

    This was also the part of the day where I started tunneling into Words with Friends and Kik started really going after me.

    Back to Angry Birds:
    Quote Originally Posted by Angry Birds View Post
    So far Clash of Clans and Vine are my top suspects for scrum. Cut the Rope is most likely town. I need to look some more at the others
    Basic agreement with the sentiment in the thread. Ew.
    Quote Originally Posted by Words with Friends View Post
    this tries to imply the consensus is that clash is scum, which is far from the truth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Words with Friends View Post
    i didn't realize cut the rope's opinion was the town consensus, considering we don't have confirmation as to whether or not she's even town.

    quizup, it highlights a fallacy that sudden appearance does not mean the individual is scum. facts are facts.
    Words with Friends immediately jumps to Angry Birds’ defense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kik View Post
    Hai guise.

    Disguiser stuff:

    Password: titsandbeer
    Key: Rampage
    Code: LJGIBUITFRH

    Nothing happened to me last night.

    Also, obligatory thanks to the doomsday killer for being a pal and killing mafia for us. Could've done without the lookout kill, though.

    Now, to business:

    First of all... FUCK YOU MAYOR FOR ENDING DAY 3 HOURS EARLY.

    Flappy Bird- So... I had this really long post all typed up and ready to post yesterday responding to your analysis of me, and when I clicked "post" I was informed that the thread was locked and my post which I had now spent 30-ish minutes typing was gone... glares at Candy Crush Not really wanting to type up all that shit again, but also not wanting to forget about making the post/or remember to do it later, but forget all of my thoughts, I decided to retype it immediately. But as I'm rather frustrated at losing my previous iteration of this post, it might not be as clear/long/detailed, so forgive me if I miss some things. If you have questions I'll answer them. Here goes...


    I pretty much agree with everything you said about my d1 posts, so I'll skip to d2. But if you have something from d1 you want to discuss, let me know.



    Though I disagree with your conclusions, they are reasonable based on your thoughts of my posts.

    Next up:



    lol @ labelling 4pics1word as town. He has 12 posts, and though they're not overly scummy, they don't really add much to discussion either. Maybe he's one of your mafia buddies.

    Speaking of mafia buddies, labelling me as a buddy of WWF and Angry Birds is laughable. Show me a single post where I buddy either of them. Try it. It won't happen. But it's good to see you're still trying to make that "I'm rubber, you're glue" strat work out. Good luck with that.
    The bolded is a slip, as Kik acknowledges that Angry Birds is scum and feels compelled to argue that he is not Angry Birds' scummate.

    Need I go on?

    Oh, and now Fall Down is going back on his supposed desire to lynch Angry Birds. What a shock.

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