4pics1word/Noctiz
Piano Tiles/Ika
Bloons TD/Louiswill
Words with Friends/Titus
SnapChat/Banshis
Fall Down/Helios
iFunny/xRavenx
Candy Crush Saga/Bahkieh
QuizUp/Fontisian
Tapatalk/Gyver
Cut the Rope/MathBlade
Flappy Bird/ThinkLiveLife
Instagram/42shadow42
Temple Run/Fatalis
Angry Birds/Suzanne
Clash of Clans/Citrus
2048/Apocist
Vine/Nicole
Kik/Gerik
Fruit Ninja/deathworlds
Yes I was wrong. I overlooked the Jester role card because I expected it to be the same as every other jester. Dedicating a jester kill to a town player is not something I have seen before. That point you brought out dropped my position quite a bit. I am just digging though some things.
And I would really like to hear more thoughts on Temple Run. 26 posts gives a much stronger analysis than 6. Regardless of how good you are at scum hunting killing a player off 6 posts is just a "lynch the lurker" move. Not a "Lynch the probable scum"
I kind of want to flip over to vote Kik but that is a tough sell for a late game train and a no-lynch would be so much worse for us than any other move..
And is your vote on Angry because half his posts were in opposition of you? He is the only lurker that called you scum.
First of all -- A) was in reference to your A) was that his win con changed. If they are wanting the serial killer to win then yes they are against us.
B) If anyone is a jester then they are against town. Their goal is to get lynched. They will not do anything other than try to get lynched. This means they can't be counted upon to do anything AND still count as a head in our required lynch total. When we're already struggling to get a majority on things it is another obstacle to overcome.
For example if 13 players 1 jester this means 8 votes to lynch. But if that jester wasn't around it'd be 7.
About why not a push for Quizup -- While I'm pretty confident Quizup is the SK I'm also pretty confident that Instagram is scum. I was also confident Vine was scum. Sometimes it's not about what I believe but it's about what is the right play. IMO that's Fruit Ninja right now, followed by Instagram. The reason being is that I don't see Quizup being scum, only the serial killer after today's events. If I'm wrong then we lose one of the better townies in the game. Because of the respect for the player I suspect is behind Quizup's ID it makes me wait a bit longer. Where as Fruit Ninja/Instagram have not been helpful to town at all for most of today. Instagram only started picking up at the end of the day and continues to spread bullshit.
And seriously? Am I high? BEFORE A WORK CALL? WTF DUDE!
And if you scumread me you do. I'm confident that I'm not scum and that town can see it. If town lynches my ass because they are too fucking stupid then the derp has hit an all time new low. I'll still fight and scream and demonstrate that I'm town but if you want to believe a person who hasn't contributed a goddamn thing over a person who has spent hours putting together probabilities and arguments and fighting for what they believe then that's your own stupidity. I can't fix stupid but I sure as hell can try to stop it.
I expressed that I would go for a fruit lynch very early in the day unless "A more viable lynch presented itself"
To be blunt I am willing to go in other directions. I am not willing to go in the direction of Angry Bird. As I have said a few times- If we are lynching a lurker it should be Temple. My FoS on this player is real. Not some "he is quite" bullshit. I could also go for a lynch on Kik. The only way I see him as town is if he somehow got his teeth sunk so far into Quizup he lost site of all counter logic and although I would not eliminate the possibility of Quizup as the Dooms Day Killer I do not think that is the case right now.
Clash of Clans- Please reconsider your position. This is only such a split fucked off mess because you are making it that way. There has to be some other direction you are willing to go. A coin toss is a shit end of day action.
@Clash of Clans
If you are so sure why not say why Angry Birds is scum? Put together a real FoS. A player of your caliber should have zero problem drawing this out. I read through your posts and I do not see logic from you on this vote. It makes me question why you want this player lynched so bad.
If you are willing to look at other options who? There must be other players you see as scum and would be willing to lynch. As a town if players obligate themselves to 1 lynch it creates a dead lock which is how no lynch days happen. Lets not have a no-lynch day. I believe the other votes on Angry are mostly sheeping you. If your vote changed that train would die.
I'm sticking to my guns for now, we've got 5 hours still
Mayorrrrrrrrrrr Candy Crush Saga show up sometimes plssssssss
ALL
Would you be willing to consider a Temple Run lynch?
1) Flappy Bird has an FoS for Temple Run possible scum
2) I have suspected Temple Run scum
3) Instagram has suspected Temple Run scum
Have yet to do analysis on all the other players but at least three players may go for it.
-- Responses to other posts --
@Instagram -- If you have a point fucking make it! We're running out of time and town derp is fucking everywhere. Highlighting the posts I think make you scum is fucking stupid because I've already highlighted an argument using those posts as to why. Then again I think you are fucking scum so I don't expect you to be helpful here. Either shit or get off the pot.
1) Suggesting production publically day one..STUPID!
2) Results of an investigation that you never gave.
3) Again repeatedly discussed.
@Clash -- But in your scenario at least everyone alive will have had a chance to help win it. If we use your logic then the only way to kill Fruit Ninja is with a gun that we may never get to and if we do may not go to town. If no construction has gone on HG at all then what happens is by the time we finally build it, give a gun to a player and they are scum we will have probably lost one or two days. Days that I don't know if we can get back from lynching one scum especially if a jester is still here.
So I looked a bit on what Angry Birds postet so far (wasnt that hard with 6 total posts, were 2 of them were for voting Vine) and I can aggree in voting for him now,
thought Fruit Ninja is a safe choice atm, he cant possible be at 3 unhappines,
everyone starts with 1 with his night action regardless how many ppl he visits (since it is only 1 night action) he loses 1,
meaning after 2 nights he is at 1 unhappines at max.
Due to that i will vote frauit ninja for now.
-vote Fruit Ninja
To that the doomsday killer is at 0 happines atm, since he did nothing n1 = +1 happines = 2 total, night 2 kill + additional kill -2 = 0.
Meaning if he kills this night he will lose his immunity = very unlikely to happen.
Also we shouldnt forget that the warmongers have to deal with the happines mechanic too, from what i saw the Witch (WWF) did nothing at least n1,
meaning others had to go for the kill/using their action, wich decreased their happines already,
sure with good handleling and always having one that does nothing at night they can handle it,
thought it puts us in a better position.
That are just my opinions atm, I wont pick up the wars between diffferent players now, for the moment, since it mostly looked like (blahblahblah this guy posted not enough he is scum, he was buddying with someone i believe is scum so he is scum and picking on things that could have been typos/misunderstandings).
Augh. Fall Down is such obvious scum.
-vote Angry Birds
Fall Down: You think Angry Birds's scum? Then vote for him.
Could you at least throw out some kind of logic? Anything at all on Angry Birds? These last few hours are giving me a real bad feeling about you.
If nothing else tell me my FoS on Temple is shit (post 127. Say you have him pegged as town. Say ANYTHING that resembles some kind of logic at all in any direction. What the hell is going on in your head right now? You are a better player than this.
Town (10/14) [+2]:
Clash of Clans
Tapatalk
Candy Crush Saga
iFunny
Snapchat
Vine
Quizup
Cut the Rope
Flappy Bird
4pics1word
[Instagram]
[Kik]
?
?
Neutral (1/1):
Fruit Ninja
Doomsday (0/1):
{2048, Instagram, 4pics1word, Piano Tiles}
Mafia (1/4):
Words with Friends
{Bloons TD, Instagram, Angry Birds, 2048, Temple Run, Piano Tiles}
{Bloons TD, Instagram, Angry Birds, 2048, Temple Run, Piano Tiles}
{Bloons TD, Instagram, Angry Birds, 2048, Temple Run, Piano Tiles}
Bright green is confirmed
Light blue is strong town read
Dark blue is weak town read (1 post or replacement)
Yellow/Red is nigh positive/confirmed
Violet is Process of Elimination pool of remaining players for each remaining slot[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
Well just to throw it out there.
The train on Angry Birds has less logic than the bad lynch on Vine had.
Can a single person on this train give any reasoning at all? I am not saying he is not scum. I am saying this lynch is bullshit.
2048 for Doomsday Killer?
Wow totally forgot Fall Down was here, and yeah that was a horrible post. Hrmm
@Fall down
Well fuck you too.
He had a post early on, and apologized for not being around.
He popped in to say me and Vine are scum. There has got to be some semblance of scum on that train on Vine, no way all town mislynched that.
He gave bare minimum contribution. I'm not FoSing him for calling me out. I'm doing it for an obvious accusation "Clash of Clans voted mayor, that looks suspicious guys." Like it was literally worded to make him look like he was contributing, he didn't even pursue it
Today with pressure he gets defensive and what, leaves for the entire day over 2 posts? He also does not place a vote, meaning we now have evidence even if he is town he won't be around to vote/actually play
Additionally he didn't apologize for not being around at all today, just got defensive rather than say anything about low activity. It is giving me the impression he's actively lurking.
My money said if he got up to like L-2 he'd suddenly appear to post a defense again. But no, the train was derailed so he can just continue to not post at all
Guys I really think that Fruit Ninja is NOT jestered yet. They are voting for Angry Birds. If they are the jester they are playing against win-con by voting for anyone and acting as scummy as possible or just posting random shit to get to end game. Their play doesn't make sense for a jestered researcher.
I'm with Flappy on this. Angry Birds looks like a horrible horrible play and that the NK analysis I did earlier points to this lynch attempting to happen.
I would be alright with a Temple Run or Angry Birds lynch today.
Either one of them is scum, or one of my townreads on the Vine train is scum, or somehow all town managed to lynch Vine (possible since mayor takes up 3 of the necessary votes)
@Fall down and Instagram
Would you guys consider a Temple Run lynch? I have some actual reasoning behind it.
*cries*
Stop. Please. Just stop. Stop saying things are against win condition. Seriously stop.
IF IT RESULTS IN HIM BEING LYNCHED, HE GOT YOU. IT'S ALWAYS PLAYING TO WIN CONDITION. NEVER ASSUME SOMEONE IS NOT PLAYING TO THEIR WIN CONDITION OR THEY CAN TRICK YOU
/megarant
I just realized how the caps yelling fits my avatar fairly well. Picture spittle flying everywhere, that is the rage within me
I get a bad vibe from how he hides. The second you called him out he showed up and posted enough to get off the radar just to disappear again. Its like he was actively reading the thread but not posting.
More than that he sticks on pre-set trains. His thoughts are not original and he uses anyone's words but his own. All in all I read it as inexperienced scum trying too hard to hide.
@Clash -- https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post450831
That is by Flappy Bird and is a PBPA.
I also expressed concerns based on some of the wording that Temple had earlier in the day. Trying to get people not to explain their reasoning in the way they like it is crazy.
And I will always assume people play to their win con. Even rude players I know can be selfish but they at least try to win the game. If they don't play the game to win I don't want to play with that player.
-vote Temple Run
I saw your reasoning Flappy, looks good, but it bothers me a bit that you want to get the train on someone else near the end of the day now.
Anyway, if he should flip town, it makes you the main suspect so yeah guess i will trust you there.
Btw dont forget im 100% scum.
-vote Temple Run
Angry Birds (4 [L-4]):
Quizup, Clash of Clans, Kik, Fruit Ninja
Cut the Rope (1 [L-7]):
Piano Tiles (1 [L-7]):
Bloons TD
Temple Run (2 [L-6]):
Flappy Bird, Cut the Rope
Fruit Ninja (1 [L-7]):
Fall Down
Second time I lol'd (not relevant, I'll bring it up post-game)
@Flappy Bird
Looking through his posts again, I think I just skimmed that argument earlier
I guess I raged my little heart out over the issue but I can not stand mindless lynches. My original vote on Angry Birds was a pressure vote. He could be scum but it would be a lynch off 6 posts and the only logic point was brought out by Instagram. The day we start randoming our lynches is the day we should just start placing random votes at the day's start and skipping discussion altogether.
Angry Birds
First post is repetitive mechanics talk on the ninth page of the game. He has no scumhunting to contribute, and instead falls back on an easy townie looking thing and buddying Cut the Rope.
When he finally comes back, he apologizes for his absence (which implies a high level of self-awareness), makes a vague accusation against Vine to jump on an already inevitable lynch, and makes a singularly terrible point against Clash.
Then there’s this:
It shows that 1.Words with Friends was paying close attention to Angry Birds but not attacking him and 2. Words with Friends was concerned that Clash may attack Angry Birds over the jump on the Vine wagon.
Words with Friends saw that Angry Birds was scummy, but waited for someone else to bring it up in the hope that it wouldn’t be noticed at all.
Oh, and look at this:
You’ll notice that Falls Down, Kik and Angry Birds are all sorted into different categories, and all in different places in those categories. This was contrived.
This was also the part of the day where I started tunneling into Words with Friends and Kik started really going after me.
Back to Angry Birds:
Basic agreement with the sentiment in the thread. Ew.
Words with Friends immediately jumps to Angry Birds’ defense.
The bolded is a slip, as Kik acknowledges that Angry Birds is scum and feels compelled to argue that he is not Angry Birds' scummate.
Need I go on?
Oh, and now Fall Down is going back on his supposed desire to lynch Angry Birds. What a shock.
Its a little late in the game for trolling..
WTF at last few posts -- brb in a bit sorry ya'll