S-FM 84: Heart of the Swarm

[Mateo]

also, nothing happened to me last night

bunny is definitely scum, slaol and sinclair likely scum too

[Sinclair]

I can kinda see the argument against L-1 now. Sorry guys, had to show that I'm still a neutral. I'll work with you guys today, and will hammer in a more pro-town way.
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Mafia are those who try to waste a lynch day by trying to get me lynched for the hammer

That is a very scummy post lol... how does hammering while saying "Bahh" show that you're a neutral? If anything it says that you don't want to give a reason to lynch.

also, nothing happened to me last night

bunny is definitely scum, slaol and sinclair likely scum too

Explain.

[Bunny]

nothing happened to me last night. how do you see me as scum, mateo? also, i agree that Cryptonic would have been a good heal target..

[Mateo]

bahkieh, before he was replaced, was lurking. he starts getting voted and makes it to L-1 on page 8. the vote switches to shadow on page 9, before we realize hes messing around and it goes back to bahkieh. he almost gets lynched b4 bunny shows up and votes shadow again while giving no reason, trying to take the fos off bahkieh. he gets to L-1 AGAIN when the vote is AGAIN switched back to shadow, who goes on to be lynched.

basically, bunny and bahkieh/slaol are definite scum, and the third is either superjack or sinclair: sinclair shifted the vote off bahkieh the first time and refused to vote for him twice, while superjack shifted it the second time. also, on page2 sinclair jumps on the vote train against thedarkestlight to "put pressure" on him, even tho it wasnt even half way thru the day and he was only one of several ppl not to check in yet.

[Mateo]

keep going

this also seems extremely suspicious. the last post by bunny b4 this one is on page 5, and its her accusing me and tdl of being scum.

[NoctiZ]

bahkieh, before he was replaced, was lurking. he starts getting voted and makes it to L-1 on page 8. the vote switches to shadow on page 9, before we realize hes messing around and it goes back to bahkieh. he almost gets lynched b4 bunny shows up and votes shadow again while giving no reason, trying to take the fos off bahkieh. he gets to L-1 AGAIN when the vote is AGAIN switched back to shadow, who goes on to be lynched.

basically, bunny and bahkieh/slaol are definite scum, and the third is either superjack or sinclair: sinclair shifted the vote off bahkieh the first time and refused to vote for him twice, while superjack shifted it the second time. also, on page2 sinclair jumps on the vote train against thedarkestlight to "put pressure" on him, even tho it wasnt even half way thru the day and he was only one of several ppl not to check in yet.

I pretty much agree with this, my thoughts exactly, well except for the Sinclair part because I didn't think about him as much.

Bunny's vote pattern just screams out "scum" to me and I would be up for lynching her or Slaol to see if we are right about our assumptions.

Other than that: Nothing happened to me.

[Bunny]

this also seems extremely suspicious. the last post by bunny b4 this one is on page 5, and its her accusing me and tdl of being scum.

I was pointing out the post where I had already said nothing happened to me.

[NoctiZ]

Anyway, I'll lead the train on Bunny for now.

-vote Bunny

Did you see any scumminess in 42's posts?

42 called Noctiz scum
Noctiz called 42 scum

You chose NoctiZ. Explain.

He was scummy because he got irritatibly defensive and claimed that I called him scum, while I only stated my assumptions about his role given his behaviour. I don't see how you could not side with me in the "42shadow42 vs Me" scenario to be honest, I even chose to drop it because he claimed citizen or veteran and he wanted me lynched (apparently) because of Meta reasons he was going to list, but you lynched him before that lol.

[Bunny]

i think everyone should roleclaim, as cits cant be counterclaimed anymore.

-vote superjack

[powerofdeath]

THIS IS WHY IM AGAINST L-1
We need to role claim, one mislynch today, its all over unless survivor side with us but doubt it
3v1v6 mislynch 3v1v5 mafia kill 3v1v4

[powerofdeath]

TDL and bujeebus, tell us what happens

[powerofdeath]

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[Orpz]

Anyway, I'll lead the train on Bunny for now.

-vote Bunny

He was scummy because he got irritatibly defensive and claimed that I called him scum, while I only stated my assumptions about his role given his behaviour. I don't see how you could not side with me in the "42shadow42 vs Me" scenario to be honest, I even chose to drop it because he claimed citizen or veteran and he wanted me lynched (apparently) because of Meta reasons he was going to list, but you lynched him before that lol.

I was asking SuperJack, because I think he's scum who voted without a good reason.

and u chose noctiz as well. as a "neutral." AND you were the deciding vote to lynch shadow. and you voted several minutes after shadow asked for 30 minutes to explain why he thinks noctiz is susp.

AND AFTER U SAID L-1 WAS FINE, ONLY IDIOTS WOULD HAMMER. HMMMMM

I didn't "choose" NoctiZ. I consider both of them town.
I thought I sounded too pro-town in my posts. Revised that a bit with some...controversial actions to show I'm only willing to side with Town, but not for sure. This way I don't get shot by Mafia.
But ya know, I'm a Town lover, I like being Town so ^^

[NoctiZ]

I was asking SuperJack, because I think he's scum who voted without a good reason.

Yes, you asked him, but it's silly that you did because looking at the situation it was clear that shadow was a better target than me.

Also, why aren't you asking Bunny for example? She posted once or twice that day, then nothing until the train shifted from Bahkieh onto shadow, and even then she only voted without saying anything else.

Role claim is probably good for town I guess but I'll wait..

[Orpz]

Yes, you asked him, but it's silly that you did because looking at the situation it was clear that shadow was a better target than me.

Also, why aren't you asking Bunny for example? She posted once or twice that day, then nothing until the train shifted from Bahkieh onto shadow, and even then she only voted without saying anything else.

Role claim is probably good for town I guess but I'll wait..

It was clear, but I still wanted to hear from him! He left right after he posted

and yeah, I see wut you mean. just Superjack was more suspicious to me.

brb skool

[Mateo]

put the pressure to bunny, make her claim a role

-vote bunny

[Bunny]

i'm vet. everyone else needs to claim. We need to lynch superjack or mateo today.

[NoctiZ]

Any more claims? Mateo and Superjack maybe?

[Mateo]

so we don't get side tracked I'll reveal role. I'm doctor and I healed tdl last night. since maf killed, he was healed from vet.

the settings don't say, but if vet is alerted to intruders, then bunnys lying

[Bunny]

so we don't get side tracked I'll reveal role. I'm doctor and I healed tdl last night. since maf killed, he was healed from vet.

the settings don't say, but if vet is alerted to intruders, then bunnys lying

i'm confused as to what you're saying by this

[NoctiZ]

so we don't get side tracked I'll reveal role. I'm doctor and I healed tdl last night. since maf killed, he was healed from vet.

the settings don't say, but if vet is alerted to intruders, then bunnys lying

TDL will be able to tell us as soon as he comes on, wouldn't he?

Okay, let's make a list.

1. powerofdeath Citizen
2. Bunny Veteran
3. NoctiZ
4. Orpz Survivor
5. TheDarkestLight Investigator
6. Sinclair
7. Bujeebus Escort
8. SuperJack
9. Slaol
10. Mateo Doctor

Possible roles left: Doctor, 3 Mafia roles

Alright, this should be easy. Only role I could claim is Doctor, and that's who I am. I healed Titus on N0, then Cryptonic, then Bujeebus. I wish you had waited on who you healed Mateo, because it would make finding counterclaimers a bit easier, but itsa okay.

[NoctiZ]

i'm confused as to what you're saying by this

He's saying that if Veteran is alerted when there are any intruders, then you are not the Veteran because you would have claimed that you were visited.

[NoctiZ]

Does the Veteran know if anyone visited him on the night he alerted?

[Bunny]

yes, i know that someone visited me last night.

[Bunny]

why would i want to say that an tell everyone how many alerts i have left. it wasnt mafia that visted me, so they should claim that they visted me and would have died if they weren't healed.

[NoctiZ]

why would i want to say that an tell everyone how many alerts i have left. it wasnt mafia that visted me, so they should claim that they visted me and would have died if they weren't healed.

Hmm, dunno.. I can't quite figure out right now if it's a town or scum tell to do that..

[Mateo]

I didn't want to reveal but day is half over already and invest and escort haven't checked in yet. we don't have time to waste.

also ty for explaining for me, I'm driving atm

[Bunny]

Hmm, dunno.. I can't quite figure out right now if it's a town or scum tell to do that..

as a vet i didnt even want to reveal, but you guys forced me and ruined that. It was the only reason i wanted 42shadow42 to be voted up, cuz he claimed my role.

[Mateo]

was that the only night u were visited

[NoctiZ]

as a vet i didnt even want to reveal, but you guys forced me and ruined that. It was the only reason i wanted 42shadow42 to be voted up, cuz he claimed my role.

But he could also have claimed Citizen, yet you thought he claimed Veteran? Shouldn't you have let him live so nobody visited him so the chance is higher that they visit you? That's scummy Bunny.

[Mateo]

why would i want to say that an tell everyone how many alerts i have left. it wasnt mafia that visted me, so they should claim that they visted me and would have died if they weren't healed.

vet has unlimited alerts

[Bunny]

vet has unlimited alerts

no i don't

[Bunny]

But he could also have claimed Citizen, yet you thought he claimed Veteran? Shouldn't you have let him live so nobody visited him so the chance is higher that they visit you? That's scummy Bunny.

everyone thought he claimed vet =| its not scummy at all... you voted him to. I assumed he was scum making an easy vet claim. I'd rather have a possible scum dead.. the chance is then highe that they would visit me.

[Mateo]

role cards say you have unlimited

[Bunny]

role cards say you have unlimited

they absolutely do not. role card doesnt say, you have to check in host settings in the setup

[NoctiZ]

everyone thought he claimed vet =| its not scummy at all... you voted him to. I assumed he was scum making an easy vet claim. I'd rather have a possible scum dead.. the chance is then highe that they would visit me.

I voted him because he bugged me. I also said that he could be citizen and I believed him to be more town, but he was such a pain in the arse and his playstyle caused the opposite of what he wanted.

Anyway, I say we lynch Sinclar today. Seems like a safe bet.

-vote Sinclair

[Bunny]

I voted him because he bugged me. I also said that he could be citizen and I believed him to be more town, but he was such a pain in the arse and his playstyle caused the opposite of what he wanted.

Anyway, I say we lynch Sinclar today. Seems like a safe bet.

-vote Sinclair

so you think that lynching someone because they bug you is a good idea, but not because they claimed your confirmed role. Thats really melon headed of you! =O

i couldn't agree less about sinclair. I think superjack is the way to go.

[Slaol]

-vote Bunny

For cutest sig ever

[NoctiZ]

so you think that lynching someone because they bug you is a good idea, but not because they claimed your confirmed role. Thats really melon headed of you! =O

i couldn't agree less about sinclair. I think superjack is the way to go.

He didn't technically claim any role, he hinted at possible ones. Veteran was one of them but he didn't say so, yet you thought he did just because the majority did? Atleast think of the possibility of him being citizen.

If TDL can confirm you being Veteran, then I might be more okay with a Superjack lynch. If TDL says that he didn't visit you, then you and Sinclair are next.

On that note, my scum list contained you, Slaol and Sinclair, so it wouldn't surprise me. I want to hear from TDL, too many votetrains with people who I thought to be scum voting eachother.

[Bunny]

He didn't technically claim any role, he hinted at possible ones. Veteran was one of them but he didn't say so, yet you thought he did just because the majority did? Atleast think of the possibility of him being citizen.

You voted him too for absolutley NO reason. Atleast I had something to go off of

[Mateo]

if tdl confirms her ok, til then she scum

slaol what's ur role

[NoctiZ]

You voted him too for absolutley NO reason. Atleast I had something to go off of

Dunno, I consider someone being a retarded player who hinders town a legit reason to lynch this person. He voted me because I apparently called him scum, we discussed, he still wanted me lynched. Other players felt the same way about lynching him, so I'm not to blame for him being scummy enough to get lynched.

[Bunny]

Dunno, I consider someone being a retarded player who hinders town a legit reason to lynch this person. He voted me because I apparently called him scum, we discussed, he still wanted me lynched. Other players felt the same way about lynching him, so I'm not to blame for him being scummy enough to get lynched.

lol no offence, but your retarded logic and scum hunting hindered town by helping to lynch another town member for no good reason!

[NoctiZ]

lol no offence, but your retarded logic and scum hunting hindered town by helping to lynch another town member for no good reason!

LOL retarded logic says the veteran who didn't claim to be visited.

I didn't even scumhunt when I called shadow a possible scum, I only thought what his motives were behind playing like he did. He in turn used retarded logic to get me lynched. This wouldn't have been so bad if he stopped, but he didn't and so we lynched him. This shit ain't my fault, he did it himself.

[Bunny]

LOL retarded logic says the veteran who didn't claim to be visited.

I didn't even scumhunt when I called shadow a possible scum, I only thought what his motives were behind playing like he did. He in turn used retarded logic to get me lynched. This wouldn't have been so bad if he stopped, but he didn't and so we lynched him. This shit ain't my fault, he did it himself.

I'm not blaming you, i just think you could use your brain a little better! Its with good reason not to claim to be visted, I know it wasn't a scum and I'd rather have another TPR out themselves willingly then have me do it for them!

[NoctiZ]

I'm not blaming you, i just think you could use your brain a little better! Its with good reason not to claim to be visted, I know it wasn't a scum and I'd rather have another TPR out themselves willingly then have me do it for them!

You wouldn't have given anything away and still proved yourself to be the Veteran. We already know that we have an Escort and Investigator and there wouldn't be much to lose if you just said that you were visited while claiming Veteran in this part of the game, yet you thought it was better to let the TPR do it themselves?

It's good that TDL could confirm you, but until then I'll wait. Kinda bad that he didn't post yet, because we only have 11h left.


Can you give reasons why you think it's better to lynch Superjack instead of Sinclair?

[Mateo]

don't worry about then now. get slao

slaol

[Bunny]

-vote slaol

for not giving a real reason as to voting me

[Bunny]

ASLO: noctiz can we get a role claim out of you?

[Mateo]

-vote slaol