Day 3: End of the Brig

[FM Big Mom]

It is hard to fully trust Bonney because of her mistake.

I seem to have missed this. Mind quoting/linking me to the post where she solved it incorrectly?

one letter? are we back to this shit again? you should really direct your energies somewhere else.

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...428#post284428

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Rebel Scout can check whether his target is or is not Citizen. He checked Black Leg Sanji last night and gave me a code in his first message today that his target is NOT a Citizen. So he's 21% town and 79% not town.

You're reading comprehension is lacking.

prove Sanji is scum using text, or stop wasting everyone's time.

using text

using text

using text

Do you get it yet?

[FM Big Mom]

You're reading comprehension is lacking.








Do you get it yet?

{Not yet. Please spam more.}

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

[QUOTE=FM Dracule Mihawk;286488]You're reading comprehension is lacking.

i don't.... can you explain it for an idiot like me? what does 'using text' mean.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

It is hard to fully trust Bonney because of her mistake.





https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...428#post284428

Hmm...

I understand the concern. But honestly, I think she just fucked it up. I fucked up my code on the first day too.

Plus, some facts:

Fact 1: If she's vented, she's still the journalist, just someone else is speaking for her. So we don't lynch her, we try to lynch the ventriloquist.

Fact 2: She wasn't disguised, because then we'd have a cleaned role in the graveyard, which we don't have.

Ergo, Bonney shouldn't be lynched.

[FM Eustass Kidd]

You're reading comprehension is lacking.

Do you get it yet?

You mean quoting the exact code from Scout? And that tells the person who thinks that real rebels should hide.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

[QUOTE=FM Jewelry Bonney;286490]

You're reading comprehension is lacking.

i don't.... can you explain it for an idiot like me? what does 'using text' mean.

Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, so I'll answer in case it isn't. Text means what people are saying. This post is text. Analyzing posts is key to making arguments in this game.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

You mean quoting the exact code from Scout? And that tells the person who thinks that real rebels should hide.

No. I mean read Sanji's posts. Quote them. Say "in this post he says ____, which is something a pirate/CP9 might say because ____"

I'm not buying your rebel shtick.

[FM Eustass Kidd]

[QUOTE=FM Dracule Mihawk;286493]

Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, so I'll answer in case it isn't. Text means what people are saying. This post is text. Analyzing posts is key to making arguments in this game.

... You want me to analyse Sanji's posts to prove he's not Citizen?...

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

You're reading comprehension is lacking.

i don't.... can you explain it for an idiot like me? what does 'using text' mean.

Not sure if this is sarcasm or not, so I'll answer in case it isn't. Text means what people are saying. This post is text. Analyzing posts is key to making arguments in this game.

Fail quote fixed.

[FM Eustass Kidd]

Wha... dahell, you know what? It's the same if you asked Basil right now to prove if he was really bussed. I gave you a clue, an information. Use it as you want, I don't care. All I know is Sanji's not freaking Citizen.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

[QUOTE=FM Eustass Kidd;286495]

... You want me to analyse Sanji's posts to prove he's not Citizen?...

Now you're getting it.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

... You want me to analyse Sanji's posts to prove he's not Citizen?...

Now you're getting it.

Goddamn fail quotes. stahp.

[FM Eustass Kidd]

[QUOTE=FM Dracule Mihawk;286498]

Now you're getting it.

Do you want the same from Sheriff when he gets mafia in ordinary S-FMs? To prove his night results by meta? O_o

[FM Big Mom]

... You want me to analyse Sanji's posts to prove he's not Citizen?...

To follow up with Basil's analysis, can you confirm that Whitebeard is a rebel, if not he is probably a pirate, but if you are a rebel we can't trust you to answer fully honestly, but if you intend to side with town you should answer fitly.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Do you want the same from Sheriff when he gets mafia in ordinary S-FMs? To prove his night results by meta? O_o

Yup.

[FM Eustass Kidd]

To follow up with Basil's analysis, can you confirm that Whitebeard is a rebel, if not he is probably a pirate, but if you are a rebel we can't trust you to answer fully honestly, but if you intend to side with town you should answer fitly.

I can fully answer that Whitebeard is a part of Rebellion. And also, according to Rebel Scout results, Black Leg Sanji is anything but Citizen. Happy?

[FM Eustass Kidd]

Yup.

Well, then, sorry for disappointing you, as I don't pay attention to what people say. I pay attention to what my team members say and send that info to you.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Yes, I read your long post about it. The problem I have with it is I see no reason for the real journalist not to counter claim. The counter claim would get bonney lynched (-1 scum. yay!) and give us a confirmed town (yay!) that could be healed/busses to stay alive. Plus, the interviewee would've claimed. I think Urouge put himself in the article to hide the fact that he wrote it. Though I still agree that he is scummy, I think the Bonney FoS is a bit lacking.



I believe Bonney's claim for the following reasons:
1. Claiming journalist day 1 is only going to be done by a journalist in this setup. Journalist isn't certain to be in the game, so claiming it day 1 without knowing it exists is stupid, because it's one of a few roles that confirm its existence in the game, so if no article appears and you claimed journalist, you're fucked.

2. No counter claim. If someone else came out and said "I am the one true journalist" we would lynch one of the journalist claimers, and if we ended up lynching the wrong one, we'd lynch the other one next time. But no one has done that. Furthermore, if Urouge didn't write the article, who did? The real article writer could've counter claimed Urouge, which would have probably gotten him lynched yesterday, with Bonney slated for a lynch today.

The interviewee could be dead, but how would CP9 Bonney and Urouge know that they had killed the interviewee? The interviewee is chosen during the day (like jailing), so witch/bussing has no effect on it. They would've had to guess. And maybe if their WIFOM is really good, they could narrow it down, but it would still be a gamble.

I'll admit that she's said some weird things (like the interview alongside the article nonsense) but I attribute that more to her misunderstanding of mechanics than anything else. So until someone else claims journalist, or can prove that she doesn't know who wrote the article, I'll believe her.

I'm also beginning to think all this pressure on her is just a ploy to get her to reveal who wrote her articles. Perhaps a Pirate/CP9 method of choosing who to target for attack.

Just about fucking did claim journalist day 1 but for my own safety I couldn't the very fact bonney is alive is evidence of foul play.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Just about fucking did claim journalist day 1 but for my own safety I couldn't the very fact bonney is alive is evidence of foul play.

So you're saying you're the journalist?

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

So you're saying you're the journalist?

Yessir I'm claiming the journalist. Obviously my antics haven't clued you in, but the uncertainty would have kept me alive.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Also I'm welcome to joining the rebellion.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Yessir I'm claiming the journalist. Obviously my antics haven't clued you in, but the uncertainty would have kept me alive.

It certainly seemed as though you were claiming it. Ok then, Mr. Journalist, who really wrote yesterday's article?

[FM Eustass Kidd]

Also I'm welcome to joining the rebellion.

You got it ;)

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Well, then, sorry for disappointing you, as I don't pay attention to what people say. I pay attention to what my team members say and send that info to you.

Kidd has claimed newb. Or bad. Whichever you prefer.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Well, Caribou is back. Again with this shit about Bonney?
Call me silly about this one; but the more we go, the more Zoro gives Caribou Executioner vibes.
Either that; or he is the Journalist himself.
What a clusterfuck.

Caribou put the role blocks in red so we subconsciously distrust an escort claim. His motivation for now is murky, in time all shall become illuminated IMO.

Curious why the Roleblocks in solid red?

Good catch. Caribou probably would've called out the other person if they did that too.
Caribou believes we have a Consort over an Escort.

Pirate Captain
First Mate
Hidden Pirate
Hidden Pirate

Possible Roles:
First Mate, Consort, Janitor, Framer, Blackmailer, Disguiser, Pirate

Caribou believes that there are no Janitor; else they probably would've tried to clean. Especially with 5 charges.
A Framer is also rather unlikely. Caribou does believe that they are extremely limited in this game, considering the investigative roles in the game and the number of player. There was, so far, no indication of anyone being Blackmailed.
Disguiser is a possibility and so is Pirate; but Caribou doubts we would have both.

To be honest; it was a simple mistake. Caribou simply associates roleblock as something scummy right now.
Why would an escort block Dracule Mihawk on the first day? He did seem rather pro-town to me.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Yessir I'm claiming the journalist. Obviously my antics haven't clued you in, but the uncertainty would have kept me alive.

Welp.
Caribou probably should've read the new replies before posting.

[FM Roronoa Zoro]

Well, Caribou is back. Again with this shit about Bonney?
Call me silly about this one; but the more we go, the more Zoro gives Caribou Executioner vibes.
Either that; or he is the Journalist himself.
What a clusterfuck.





Good catch. Caribou probably would've called out the other person if they did that too.
Caribou believes we have a Consort over an Escort.

Pirate Captain
First Mate
Hidden Pirate
Hidden Pirate

Possible Roles:
First Mate, Consort, Janitor, Framer, Blackmailer, Disguiser, Pirate

Caribou believes that there are no Janitor; else they probably would've tried to clean. Especially with 5 charges.
A Framer is also rather unlikely. Caribou does believe that they are extremely limited in this game, considering the investigative roles in the game and the number of player. There was, so far, no indication of anyone being Blackmailed.
Disguiser is a possibility and so is Pirate; but Caribou doubts we would have both.

To be honest; it was a simple mistake. Caribou simply associates roleblock as something scummy right now.
Why would an escort block Dracule Mihawk on the first day? He did seem rather pro-town to me.

Zoro doesn't care about lynching bonnie. Zoro will join rebels and get them to 5 so they can shoot bonnie instead.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

To be honest; it was a simple mistake. Caribou simply associates roleblock as something scummy right now.
Why would an escort block Dracule Mihawk on the first day? He did seem rather pro-town to me.

I wasn't blocked. I was bussed.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

I wasn't blocked. I was bussed.

For some reason Caribou totally confused you with Don Krieg.

~facedesks.~

[FM Big Mom]

Pay attention and stop failing so hard.

Well, Caribou is back. Again with this shit about Bonney?
Call me silly about this one; but the more we go, the more Zoro gives Caribou Executioner vibes.
Either that; or he is the Journalist himself.
What a clusterfuck.




Good catch. Caribou probably would've called out the other person if they did that too.
Caribou believes we have a Consort over an Escort.

Pirate Captain
First Mate
Hidden Pirate
Hidden Pirate

Possible Roles:
First Mate, Consort, Janitor, Framer, Blackmailer, Disguiser, Pirate

Caribou believes that there are no Janitor; else they probably would've tried to clean. Especially with 5 charges.
A Framer is also rather unlikely. Caribou does believe that they are extremely limited in this game, considering the investigative roles in the game and the number of player. There was, so far, no indication of anyone being Blackmailed.
Disguiser is a possibility and so is Pirate; but Caribou doubts we would have both.

To be honest; it was a simple mistake. Caribou simply associates roleblock as something scummy right now.
Why would an escort block Dracule Mihawk on the first day? He did seem rather pro-town to me.

I wasn't blocked. I was bussed.

[FM Big Mom]

If there is no arson douse or EM charge today, Straw Hat Luffy needs to explain himself.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

If there is no arson douse or EM charge today, Straw Hat Luffy needs to explain himself.

No EM charge is indeed odd; considering both of us are, We can pretty much confirm it.
Unless it is all a ploy, that there is an Arsonist, that you are CP9 and that your Drug Dealer buddy (Or yourself) fake charged me.
Who knows. Apart from yourself, of course.

[FM Big Mom]

No EM charge is indeed odd; considering both of us are, We can pretty much confirm it.
Unless it is all a ploy, that there is an Arsonist, that you are CP9 and that your Drug Dealer buddy (Or yourself) fake charged me.
Who knows. Apart from yourself, of course.

I am not CP9, but it is a distinct possibility that you could be.

[FM Big Mom]

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[FM Black Leg Sanji]

I am here, and after reading Kidd's claim I am not Citizen, I will say this, he is BS. I am infact a Citizen. And unless he was Witched -which I doubt considering everyone says the PC was- he is lying, scum, or both.

Also nothing happened to me last night.

My opinion on Bonney is lowering, Zoro's journalist claim and the fact he cancelled his vote randomly on Franky giving no reason other than that he is Town confuses me, also not revealing who the person interviewed until late was BS. Yet with a possible Jester in play I am not sure I would be willing to lynch him or Zoro, Zoro claiming he will wait for him to be able to Rebel kill makes me read him as Town slightly better. That, or an Enforcer trying to find a real Rebel for a possible communication with a CP9 after.

Urouge seems scum, even the Journalist CC claims he is, and given the quality of yesterdays article, and his new absence after he was revealed to have written it I believe that he is scum.

-vote FM Urouge

he is the scummiest person to me at the time.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

I am not CP9, but it is a distinct possibility that you could be.

Interesting.
We could accuse each other of being all day long.
Or maybe we're both CP9.
Or maybe we're the same person.
Maybe you Ventriloquist'd Caribou and you are actually talking to yourself.

Caribou think he had one drink too many; Can't do this shit.
He's out for the night; Be back tomorrow if the hammer hasn't passed.

[FM Bartholomew Kuma]

-vote FM Urouge

Nothing happened to me and seems like lieing is bad so he is bad.

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

-vote FM Urouge

Nothing happened to me and seems like lieing is bad so he is bad.

CARIBOU'S AVATAR IS VERY RELEVANT.
THAT IS HIS FACE WHEN HE READ YOUR POST.

TOP CONTRIBUTOR RIGHT THER.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Just about fucking did claim journalist day 1 but for my own safety I couldn't the very fact bonney is alive is evidence of foul play.

CLAIM IT RIGHT NOW. I FUCKING DARE YOU. WHO WAS INTERVIEWED LAST NIGHT.

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Just about fucking did claim journalist day 1 but for my own safety I couldn't the very fact bonney is alive is evidence of foul play.

AND WHILE YOUR AT IT, CLAIM WHO WAS INTERVIEWED YESTERDAY TOO. AND PLEASE DON'T SAY A DEAD PERSON, CUZ THAT'S TOO CONVENIENT.

[FM Sogeking]

Just in case u need my vote.

-vote FM Urouge

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Just in case u need my vote.

-vote FM Urouge

yup, can't have too many votes on a guy.

[FM Capone Bege]

Before I forget, here is my code:
vITsOFOOy

I'll be back to check in periodically for Urouge's posts. Also hoping for a Gecko Moria post.

[FM Blackbeard]

I may not be able to post again if he get instalynched in 8.5 hours, so heres my code XDCGUFREIWGBOKMHHM

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

REMEMBER YOUR CODES TODAY. MY WEBSITE INSTRUCTIONS SHOULD STILL BE WORKING. JUST DO IT

mine is WYNJBPSHYFU

[FM Wet Haired Caribou]

Caribou made a oopsie and almost forgot to post his.

WIAAFEZDBZSFBEWTZIT

Off for real now

[FM Capone Bege]

Alright it doesn't look like he'll post. I'm off for the night.

[FM Dracule Mihawk]

Here's mine:

IJVMJMIJTBXJY

Since it's looking like Urouge will be lynched before I return, I think during day 4 we may want to evaluate some of the lurkers listed in that article, particularly those who didn't post today (such as Gecko).

[FM Jewelry Bonney]

Here's mine:

IJVMJMIJTBXJY

Since it's looking like Urouge will be lynched before I return, I think during day 4 we may want to evaluate some of the lurkers listed in that article, particularly those who didn't post today (such as Gecko).

hopefully nother round of modkills takes care of more cits. and... also pay some special attention to people that continue to say that i'm not journalist, or that i'm vented. people like you make me happy that i'm actually proven to you ^^