S-FM 362: ?KRC: Odyssey through the Ages

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Now chat, lets see if I remember how to vote

[FM-Snail Streamer]

-vote FM-Incognito

[FM-Mountain Tops]

That works when it's not literally apparent that I scrolled up and posited the first name I saw (yours.)

Yeah, again it was completely random. Well, as about random as scrolling up can be I guess. But i've never been wolfread for scrolling so this is new to me. Dang I love mafia.

It wasn't apparent that you just scrolled up and got that name, though the way you're asserting it's obvious now makes me very confident that's what happened

I'm not wolfreading you for that though, and IDK where you got that impression
"This is possibly pairing with another player" is not a wolfread, and I think my original lack of response makes it clear that your explanation made me mostly dismiss that thought

[FM-Jiraffe]

-vote FM-My Plants

it's been a while since i've played fm so i'll blame any mistakes i make on that

[FM-Wine Mom]

I must admit Fish's reaction to Mountain Tops is not the towniest. They're...visibly scrambling. Fish, I did not get the impression that Mountain Tops was still pushing you for that after you explained that you simply scrolled up. They explained it because you asked for an explanation. Your reaction seems a bit disproportionate to Mountain Tops' read.

-vote FM-Incognito

[FM-Fast Fish]

I must admit Fish's reaction to Mountain Tops is not the towniest. They're...visibly scrambling. Fish, I did not get the impression that Mountain Tops was still pushing you for that after you explained that you simply scrolled up. They explained it because you asked for an explanation. Your reaction seems a bit disproportionate to Mountain Tops' read.

-vote FM-Incognito

Fish don't scramble. Eggs do.

[FM-Jiraffe]

Fish don't scramble. Eggs do.

kinda bars tbh

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Wine Mome also striked me as reading /energy/ as in like, /excitement/ and it being equated to more likely scum or not, which is not something I agree with much. Specially because its KRC , we have little silly avas and the energy and fun is easy to have regardless. And the ausence at least at the start I dont think its that much AI.
I'm mulling if that value / metric from Wine Mom its their playstyle, or is scum who is using those sort of easy to contrast metric to pretend to be solving/hunting.

Let me know your opinions chat!!

[FM-Snail Streamer]

I must admit Fish's reaction to Mountain Tops is not the towniest. They're...visibly scrambling. Fish, I did not get the impression that Mountain Tops was still pushing you for that after you explained that you simply scrolled up. They explained it because you asked for an explanation. Your reaction seems a bit disproportionate to Mountain Tops' read.

-vote FM-Incognito

Okay now this post makes my last one look weird. Once again, I was too slow

[FM-Jiraffe]

i am surprised to see what *seem* like in-depth reads at this stage of the game? unsure how to feel about it bc i don't entirely disagree with their basis either (or what I believe their basis to be) but I am usually kinda w/e about early game reads

[FM-Jiraffe]

Okay now this post makes my last one look weird. Once again, I was too slow

i believe that's typical of snails, no?

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Fish approach seems to be like, openly bait-ing people from what it felt from their first posts. Its kinda based, they have aura

[FM-Lolcat]

driving low gear tonight due to work
not being 100% there which is not my usual type
i will lock in later
girl scout promise

[FM-Fast Fish]

i am surprised to see what *seem* like in-depth reads at this stage of the game? unsure how to feel about it bc i don't entirely disagree with their basis either (or what I believe their basis to be) but I am usually kinda w/e about early game reads

"Soul reading" veteran players scumpainting townies for playing survivor instead of mafia. It's honestly fun.

But most games I've been in, there's only one wolf early and the rest come later and post cute things to let you town tunnel to death.

[FM-Purple Forest]

My immediate thought is "Saying don't townread this post" is towny
But I... don't think I actually believe that here

Don't worry, I posted that to be funny.

woefully I must depart from the thread for now :o( boohoo

so far I think Mountain Tops & Purple Forest both feel alright, they can hold a balloon! :o)

Harry's post pinged me a little but I cant fully explain why beyond vibes, felt a little slimy :o(

anything else feels quite weak or just gut vibes, we'll see how I feel on my return!

@FM-Angry Clown ,
Can you speak a bit about why you're reading Mountian Tops well? It's not a read that I can follow at that point in time. And I'd like your take on Bosun, what with all the bells and whistles.

I'm referring to mountain tops
i don't think it's unpairing because "bad vibes, friend" doesn't read like an apology it reads like a callout
both slots are exactly rand imo

@FM-Bosun
Do you have any reads on any slots this game? {note: I saw that you had posted some lightly later, could you repeat and clarify reasoning for them?}

if it was just "bad vibes, friend" I would probably agree
But the extra ":o(" at the end changes the tone

That being said:





What changed your mind here?

This is a simple thing, but it's a good thing to note and callout, and implies at minimum an eye for detail and inner workings of the mind. (To put more clearly, I think its ultimately villagery to point this out and will add Mountain into my own town forest, but accept that this is also something that is minimally easy for a scumboni to do).

-vote FM-Bosun

early impressions point towards Bosun being scum. They seem a bit rigid.


'No that's not unpairing'
'Towny from clown though'
'Actually no both slots are exactly at rand'
'this slot is a deepwolf' (40 minutes into the game)


Loosen up!

I don't disagree and I'm glad to see pressure there. The only thing I have to really note on the slot is that I get the feeling they're likely a "scummy" player regardless of alignment, but would still lean scum at this juncture from what I've seen.

Bosum is irritating me also, especially with -sleep vote. But I know he isn't genuine with it (which is why I'm irritated). But doesn't give me wolf vibes, at least not yet.

I quoted the wrong thing I think, but I want to unpair you and Wine Mom from this and Wine Mom's reaction I think. [Also, @FM-Wine Mom , I actually think a wolfmate would more likely not respond this way to a w!Bosun gaining heat, and instead likely deflect or +1 on a village push elsewhere. {Which, actually, makes me want to look at Clown's push on Harry now. But I won't.}]

every krc you guys are killing the cats and not the wolves. not this again pls

Think this post is probably towny for bad reasons, not really sure how I'd explain but it just kind of feels towny.

Is the event allowed to be coordinated in wolfchat? I think in mashes thats usually not allowed, and the vote distribution seem to indicate the voting was also quite random, though I am a bit disappointed that no one else thought of the potential as Ryast president and host at the same time

Generally it depends, but either way, if collusion is not enabled, wolves are still generally free to share the event information. @FM-Snail Streamer , have you any reads or focuses as of yet; notably would not mind your own thoughts onto Wine Mom.

[FM-Incognito]

If there is one thing I've learned, its that all these insignificant posts end up being very important in the later stages of the game. I'm just gonna let the masses congregate together to get a baseline what people will do before I start judging.

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Wine mom and Fast Fish will be my townreads for now

[FM-Purple Forest]

My immediate thought is "Saying don't townread this post" is towny
But I... don't think I actually believe that here

woefully I must depart from the thread for now :o( boohoo

so far I think Mountain Tops & Purple Forest both feel alright, they can hold a balloon! :o)

Harry's post pinged me a little but I cant fully explain why beyond vibes, felt a little slimy :o(

anything else feels quite weak or just gut vibes, we'll see how I feel on my return!

I'm referring to mountain tops
i don't think it's unpairing because "bad vibes, friend" doesn't read like an apology it reads like a callout
both slots are exactly rand imo

if it was just "bad vibes, friend" I would probably agree
But the extra ":o(" at the end changes the tone

That being said:





What changed your mind here?

-vote FM-Bosun

early impressions point towards Bosun being scum. They seem a bit rigid.


'No that's not unpairing'
'Towny from clown though'
'Actually no both slots are exactly at rand'
'this slot is a deepwolf' (40 minutes into the game)


Loosen up!

Bosum is irritating me also, especially with -sleep vote. But I know he isn't genuine with it (which is why I'm irritated). But doesn't give me wolf vibes, at least not yet.

every krc you guys are killing the cats and not the wolves. not this again pls

Is the event allowed to be coordinated in wolfchat? I think in mashes thats usually not allowed, and the vote distribution seem to indicate the voting was also quite random, though I am a bit disappointed that no one else thought of the potential as Ryast president and host at the same time

Wine Mome also striked me as reading /energy/ as in like, /excitement/ and it being equated to more likely scum or not, which is not something I agree with much. Specially because its KRC , we have little silly avas and the energy and fun is easy to have regardless. And the ausence at least at the start I dont think its that much AI.
I'm mulling if that value / metric from Wine Mom its their playstyle, or is scum who is using those sort of easy to contrast metric to pretend to be solving/hunting.

Let me know your opinions chat!!

Oh-

[FM-Fast Fish]

Fish approach seems to be like, openly bait-ing people from what it felt from their first posts. Its kinda based, they have aura

Oh, you think you're punny.

[FM-Orange Iris]

Incognito was surprised that the president's abilities were not described by the host. This could indirectly indicate that he and the president are on the same team. Also, the mafia is more interested in uncovering role abilities rather than hunting for scums.

His interference in my dialog with Fish also looks suspicious.

However, his posting style is similar to “distance yourself from everyone, suspect everyone”, which is not only cames from mafia, but also of overly paranoid town players.

Incognito looks suspicious, and perhaps I'll support this vote in the future. But I can't report and participate in the investigation at the same time, so I'll come back to this discussion after the President's inaugural address.

Thanks for sticking with us, SSN Radio is going on commercial break!

[FM-Jiraffe]

i am leaning purple forest town but i do think the reasoning is "i like how he types"
im sticking with it tho lmao

[FM-Purple Forest]

Wine Mome also striked me as reading /energy/ as in like, /excitement/ and it being equated to more likely scum or not, which is not something I agree with much. Specially because its KRC , we have little silly avas and the energy and fun is easy to have regardless. And the ausence at least at the start I dont think its that much AI.
I'm mulling if that value / metric from Wine Mom its their playstyle, or is scum who is using those sort of easy to contrast metric to pretend to be solving/hunting.

Let me know your opinions chat!!

Fish approach seems to be like, openly bait-ing people from what it felt from their first posts. Its kinda based, they have aura

@FM-Snail Streamer
I feel like I'm supposed to find a conclusion between these two posts (as well as Mom's read on Fish), can you clarify and explain your bouncing read between Mom and Fish and how your reads of the two field into each other? Especially given that you end up waffling on Mom-> See a Mom post on Fish (scumreading) -> you post a defense of Fish -> you townread both. I'm trying to understand this ^^''.

i am surprised to see what *seem* like in-depth reads at this stage of the game? unsure how to feel about it bc i don't entirely disagree with their basis either (or what I believe their basis to be) but I am usually kinda w/e about early game reads

I like this post. It is good and towny.

[FM-Purple Forest]

i am leaning purple forest town but i do think the reasoning is "i like how he types"
im sticking with it tho lmao

I write post good you write post towny lets fuse.

[FM-Jiraffe]

I write post good you write post towny lets fuse.

good yes lets

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Wine mom and Fast Fish will be my townreads for now

To elaborate.
Fish is basically because I think what they are doing is usually towny, in like the openly creating engagement at the expense of maybe not making friends with others or having some "rough" posts on surface level. Plus they are fast, so I want them to be also town and do a collaboration we can complement each other real good.

Wine mom is basically rereading some last posts and answering my own question. As in: To me their questions and moves so far (specially thw two votes so far) are something with intent behind and not a shallow metric to scumhunt like I was theorizing in one of my earlier posts

[FM-Snippy]

I write post good you write post towny lets fuse.

Quite odd

[FM-Snail Streamer]

My read didnt bounce on anyone? If anything the events were

> Mulling over on Wine Mom approach after reading some of their first post (One liking high energy, and other sussing someone feeling them as /rigid/) .

Mom replies to another post and switch votes . In that same post it was clear that my assumption to mom's approach was wrong since they were going at least more deep in their questions / trying to poke at people. This doesnt mean that I agreed with their read. As a fact I dont care much. It was just a view of how they are approaching and solving that was important to me.

Then you have my assesment of fish. Its a vibe, not that deep. But still good for me at this stage of the game, and feels likely correct!

[FM-Happy Drunk]

St Patrick's day and I'm on my lunch break, this is likely the only time in the next 24 hours I'll be sober and online.

What's the current discussion?

[FM-Snail Streamer]

I like this post. It is good and towny.

Can you elaborate ?

[FM-Snail Streamer]

St Patrick's day and I'm on my lunch break, this is likely the only time in the next 24 hours I'll be sober and online.

What's the current discussion?

Vote Incognito with me and dont look back, you wont regret it Snail Promise

[FM-Happy Drunk]

Vote Incognito with me and dont look back, you wont regret it Snail Promise

Is there a casee?

[FM-Incognito]

Incognito was surprised that the president's abilities were not described by the host. This could indirectly indicate that he and the president are on the same team. Also, the mafia is more interested in uncovering role abilities rather than hunting for scums.

Considering that I was asked to vote for this role without knowing anything about it, I want to know what powers were given. Does it make him above the law and immune to lynches? Can he pardon the person who is being lynched? I don't know. And right now I am gathering as much intel as I can.

His interference in my dialog with Fish also looks suspicious.

I'm still trying to decide if this little escapade against me is trying to mask a slip that you made and minimizing a simple question I had asked you.

[FM-Fast Fish]

St Patrick's day and I'm on my lunch break, this is likely the only time in the next 24 hours I'll be sober and online.

What's the current discussion?

Come back when you're drunk.

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Oh, I Townread Orange Iris aswell. I like what they are doing , I'll leave it at that

I

[FM-Happy Drunk]

I voted for myself

[FM-Snail Streamer]

Is there a casee?

You can read their posts and tell me what you think if you will! Game just started so ISOs are short and sweet

[FM-Happy Drunk]

I wasn't elected as PM.... Democracy was a mistake...

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

Did anything say you were getting a reward or are you just fluffing? Do we get anything for voting the winning President?

'We?' Are you a fellow Aliens Are Real voter? There are three of us, you know! Three!

[FM-Happy Drunk]

I like incognito's iso right now, I don't wanna vote them

[FM-Purple Forest]

To elaborate.
Fish is basically because I think what they are doing is usually towny, in like the openly creating engagement at the expense of maybe not making friends with others or having some "rough" posts on surface level. Plus they are fast, so I want them to be also town and do a collaboration we can complement each other real good.

Wine mom is basically rereading some last posts and answering my own question. As in: To me their questions and moves so far (specially thw two votes so far) are something with intent behind and not a shallow metric to scumhunt like I was theorizing in one of my earlier posts

My read didnt bounce on anyone? If anything the events were

> Mulling over on Wine Mom approach after reading some of their first post (One liking high energy, and other sussing someone feeling them as /rigid/) .

Mom replies to another post and switch votes . In that same post it was clear that my assumption to mom's approach was wrong since they were going at least more deep in their questions / trying to poke at people. This doesnt mean that I agreed with their read. As a fact I dont care much. It was just a view of how they are approaching and solving that was important to me.

Then you have my assesment of fish. Its a vibe, not that deep. But still good for me at this stage of the game, and feels likely correct!

I meant more to know how the two reads collaborated with each other. I think I can understand that read and how you can think that better then; though I also don't hollistically trust it to be towny from you. {Admittedly, this is based off my own presumption on how I would interact between there, to which I recognize that this means very little when I don't consider myself a very standard player.}

What's your own read on Bosun, who you've at this juncture failed to comment on, despite being one of the reads that Mom's put the most into extrapolating? Or any other players that have well, caught your eye? I don't really know if I feel you fully on Incognito either, if you want to sell that a bit.

Quite odd

Thank you! In what way?

[FM-Purple Forest]

I like incognito's iso right now, I don't wanna vote them

What would you highlight as towny from there?

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Oh the scoop of such a close election has everyone on the edge of their seats this time around if there ever is another I doubt the votes will be that close again!

[FM-Happy Drunk]

What would you highlight as towny from there?

Asking questions is good. I'm also curious as to what the presidency does. Either it's a town role effect and we're all (including scum) are clueless, or it's a mafia role effect and they already know what it is, and simply feign ignorance or slip and reveal more than we all know, which is next to nothing

[FM-Fast Fish]

My read didnt bounce on anyone? If anything the events were

> Mulling over on Wine Mom approach after reading some of their first post (One liking high energy, and other sussing someone feeling them as /rigid/) .

Mom replies to another post and switch votes . In that same post it was clear that my assumption to mom's approach was wrong since they were going at least more deep in their questions / trying to poke at people. This doesnt mean that I agreed with their read. As a fact I dont care much. It was just a view of how they are approaching and solving that was important to me.

Then you have my assesment of fish. Its a vibe, not that deep. But still good for me at this stage of the game, and feels likely correct!

I have a legitimate question, how would you rate your wolf play 1-10?

[FM-Jiraffe]

I voted for myself

oh yeah the voting stuff
i didn't know we could vote (the wording in the post confused me) so i voted for no one lmao

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

I voted for myself

I did not even consider this as an option. That is ok. My vote mattered!

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Smug Viking I think is town for very small reasons page 1 but likely true ones.

Though I don't plan to think hard about game till I've slept ��

[FM-Sassy Witch]

Wait you could have voted yourself? Well wouldn't have mattered ahdhaosbxjxi at least to me

[FM-Snail Streamer]

I have a legitimate question, how would you rate your wolf play 1-10?

10

[FM-Lady of the Lake]

Smug Viking I think is town for very small reasons page 1 but likely true ones.

Though I don't plan to think hard about game till I've slept ��

I am cautious of Smug Viking because they seem like a very arbitrary person to have received three votes. Not at all like my non-arbitrary alphabetical voting reason. Assuming they voted for themself, where did those other votes come from?