As much as I'm complaining about activity levels, I'm a much bigger advocate for putting your offline life and health above all else.
Obviously there's not a lot of people around to say for sure but I'm doubtful that you're in any real danger of going over today and I'd personally advocate against you flipping regardless as I think your posting has been fine and you seem much more likely to self resolve in time (when you feel better) compared to most of the other slots that have barely posted.
Yeah
My last game the two wolves were the 2nd and 3rd top posters. 3 townies completely bailed on our team and one townie consciously and purposefully sabotaged our wincon out of personal interpetation of whats fun for them. I dont wanna play games like that, if i lose i lose and i dip. I dont wanna throw games by tinfoiling the ppl putting in effort and letting slankers free win only to hear them gloat about it. This has also happened and i hate it lol
I dont have scumreads. Im sheeping on that person i forgot the name of sorry
I talk to my townreads coz thats how i play
My nullreads are not here i cant talk to them unless i physically find their addresses and go to their houses to stalk them and ask them why arent they playing mafia which i might do
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I find it odd that you find this odd of me. Have u not observed me express this behavior in all of my town games? Sheeping and cohesion?
Yeah they dont
So lol (player, not laughing) how do u define self resolving or not in this setup?
@Marshmallow Marshal
Testing how to ping
@Marshmallow Marshal;
@Marshmallow Marshall
@Varcron
@ikarusdk
@The Scarlet Letters
Hello, whos mafia?
Vittae are u Wiml? U have the same avi. This pink cup thing
I miss Bakermir
It was out of boredom; I wouldn't call it a train. Trains aren't boring; they are angels, and I love them... I suppose it has eventually invited some people to react to it or me, which is good for my reads.
Which game are you referring to here?
I don't have any games that stands out tbh I don't find any of them "good". It's like going to the gym you know, you don't realize how small or frail you are until you start working on yourself.
I had 5 due to reasons - pessimism if that counts as one; mainly depending on what nominations a mafia will make if we ever chop one. I don't think we should discuss this today, but I am glad to see I wasn't the only one trying to crack the setup.
We need to figure out whom to chop and whom to nominate for tomorrow ASAP.
I mean, what are you going to find out from reading that game? lol is clearly wrong here in how they analyzed me. I might have been joyful in mafia chat, and I had good laughs being teamed with lol because of their content. However, that doesn't mean I show that excitement in the thread or with other mafia players in different mafia games and chats. In fact, it is quite rare for me to enjoy mafia alignment. I am a perfectionist when it comes to randing maf and I won't get into details here. This year, I subbed out of a game because I didn't click with the people on my team, and I was frustrated that I couldn't pay much time to the game, so I was out after D1 ended. Here is a link to it: I don't need the stars to align, but when the stakes are low or the game isn't enjoyable, I am not going to put up with it tolerate it, and I don't mind losing in the end. Mini-Fooling Party where I subbed in is a great example. If I had won the 50% 50% mechanical check in the end, I would have won the game.
So, what in your view makes a game "good"? @Vittae
I would let Martin cook. He is a player known for holding onto some of his thoughts until later stages of the game, and this can have an impact, for better or worse, on either himself or the rest of us. It usually ends well for town. Also, on a personal note: I believe I can read Martin very effectively due to certain reasons and history. My last meta read on him was accurate. Reading his champs game D1, I told MM how I could soulread Martin as mafia, and MM was underlining Axis to me. It turns out we were both correct xd
I am taking them into my towncore today.
Speaking of MM, it is unusual for them to miss a day like this. Maybe we should consider extending this day phase.
What are your thoughts @everyone?
Baker
Vittae
Martin
Rest null
@scumbot5679
Let's set aside all the things we've discussed about each other and our previous game. I'd like to hear your thoughts on others here. I understand that you view both me and yourself as town. Do you have any comments on Martin's voting patterns or posts, for instance?
If it's difficult, let me simplify the process for you:
Please give me 3 names that you would nominate if you were chosen for chop today. I'd also like to know if you would adhere to a consensus list for tomorrow if one were provided.
lol is unreadable btw guys
If u think hes some alignment he alwayps flips the opposite
I bet his alignment changes mid-game just to spite people and be the opposite of what they think
If i get chopped im nomming scumbot marshmallow and the hydra (respectfully hydras are bad for sanity)
Cyberpunk, actually, so it's pretty funny that you linked it as well.
Basically everything you've written here already answers your question and speaks for the sort of stuff that I'll look out for when I read some of your old wolf games.
The difference is that self meta isn't a reliable way to deduce these things (in fact, I'd go so far as to say that self meta is notoriously unreliable). The most accurate way to work these things out is to look directly at the games in question and read them yourself without getting an account of said meta filtered through a source that is generally going to be very biased.
I deliberately leave the definition of what I'm looking for vague when asking for games, largely so that the person in question gives me the ones that fit their criteria of good instead of one that fits a checklist.
Generally, I want to see a wolf game or games that show the upper bound of a player's wolf range that has been demonstrated semi-recently (one where they were active, in good health, performed well, etc). For town games, I care most about recency and high enough effort levels.
Sorry, we MAY* get an extension.
Hopefully we do because we have 6 hours remaining.
Aorn I'd be looking at something like:
Scumbot
Varcron
Scarlet
MM
As my nominations (naming four because I'm including whoever gets voted).
Ikarus is in the same tier as those 0-posting slots but I'd tiebreak him out of the shortlist for at least having given a genuine reason for his absence.
Obviously that's dependent on if the 0 posts / content slots show up or not though.
I dont get how this tie thing works
I understand "put them in order" but im not parsing whats written at how its resolved
Imagine if this was 8v4. Man. Idk if we can even win a 8v2
I don't believe that user submitted lists apply until D2+.
Basically, ties will, by the letter of the rules, indefinitely stall the game and lead to an infinite duration D1 if everyone agrees not to tiebreak.
(Although I'm working under the assumption that exploiting this loophole is breaking the rules unless told otherwise so I wouldn't cross your fingers on an extension).
Sorry guys but im still really tilted at my last game and im biased to view this one cynically. Im not helping by doom and gloom posting. If im proven wrong and ppl post more and/or we catch a wolf - great! I welcome being carried. If not -im not getting burned like last time
Oh
I love breaking games that hosts have carefully spent time designing. Thats the fun of it. Can we do it pls pls pls. We can be the longest game of mafia in history. 1 year dayphase if everyone agrees. Im down. Later on my children will sub in for me and carry on my legacy
I agree that self meta reads can be unreliable. I would argue for even more unreliability when it's not self-meta, especially as mafia. It's likely closer to a 60/70% accuracy ratio in the global community.
lol is an example. I hoped for them to have a different experience here compared to FoL and MU. People tend to misread him more than they should since he is more of a turbo player who had a long streak of mafia rands a while back.
Do you have a "good" game I can take a look at? Outside of sc2mafia
Basically, it is in our best interest to maintain a tie in D1 votes until every player has made a certain number of posts, making sure that we have a clear plan for D2 and D3.
I'd be okay with anyone being tied with scumbot. We just need to ensure that this mechanical advantage is communicated to everyone to prevent hammers.
@MartinGG99
I apologize for the tag and invading your inbox, but we have found a mech that helps town get a good start to this game.
Ok well whats the vc? Am on mobile sry. I can vote for a cw or smth
Also btw is 9:30 pm im going to bed really soon
Tell me who to vote, or i can keep my vote and u guys tie a cw