As far as I understand it:
There is one Illuminati alive (this is confirmed. You could say... Illuminati confirmed?)
There is very likely at least 2 members of Pacifica's faction left (not confirmed but very likely based off setup spec. It's not impossible, based off the note at the bottom of Blendin's flip, that one of these members IS the illuminati member)
There is possibly something going on with the mastermind (very unlikely, but still something to consider)
I think if there's a neutral, we've already lost.
Here are the different scenarios:
2 mafia left, 1 illuminati, 1 neutral, and 2 town. We can't win... Neutral probably doesn't town side.
2 mafia left(illuminati is mafia), 1 neutral, 3 town. Only scenario where neutral can win with us, but it depends on the unlikely scenario of Illuminati being mafia... And at this point neutral can just scum side and end game.
2 mafia left, 1 illuminati, 3 town. We have to lynch mafia to win bc mafia will just overrun us if we don't. Safest bet is always Dipper since we know he's not town but also not illuminati.
2 mafia left, 4 town. This is second best case scenario, where Illuminati (secretly mafia member) outed the info to Dipper (mafia member), and that's how Dipper knew so much about Blendin.
1 mafia, 1 illuminati, 1 neutral, 3 town. Lynching neutral doesn't change much. If we lynch mafia here, he just scum sides and wins game for Illuminati, or vice versa.
I don't see a lot of ways where Dipper isn't the most optimal lynch. Either he's neutral and we've already lost, or he's mafia and he's the most optimal lynch (and he's the reason I died, with the candy and all. Or maybe one of the other gifts being some kind of explosive or smth.)
We do still have hells accountant with a 10% chance of coming back to life every night that happens to be town.. they will come back to life with all the powers/abilities of everyone thats dead..
Just wanted to point that out
all D2 votes
FM-Dipper Pines(4 [L-2]):
FM-Sergei Caliendo, FM-Tambry DiCicco, FM-Old Man McGucket, FM-Mabel Pines
FM-Tambry DiCicco(3 [L-3]):
FM-Dipper Pines, FM-Gideon Gleeful, FM-Blendin Blandin
FM-Blendin Blandin(1 [L-5]):
FM-Candy Chiu
FM-Sergei Caliendo(1 [L-5]):
FM-Stanley Pines
Not Voting: FM-Soos Ramirez
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that SHOULD be the VC, idk, could have missed something somewhere.
FM-Blendin Blandin (5 [L-0]): FM-Candy Chiu, FM-Dipper Pines, FM-Sergei Caliendo, FM-Mabel Pines, FM-Old Man McGucket
FM-Dipper Pines (1 [L-4]): FM-Blendin Blandin
FM-Soos Ramírez (1 [L-4]): FM-Wendy Corduroy
Not Voting: FM-Soos Ramirez
Day 3
I was warned to be careful with the genie. Sure I could have asked for that, but maybe they all would have been revived as something non town. Who knows. Monkeys paw.
I wished to know Blandins alignment, and all I got was "Illuminati". So I worked my trap around knowing that. A gift to the town as goodwill.
If Old man is scum he is definitely Illuminati btw, because of how buddy buddy he was with Blendin
I tried to be a good santa. You know, this is why you never reveal you are neut, ever. Even though you do literally everything you can to help town they sell you short and next thing you know you're dead.
It's been fun though!
Still kinda creeped out by this. Something very weird must have happened for Old Man to have lived...
Unless it can be explained by this? "And he claimed to have an ability that stops someone from killing him if he targets them when they go to kill him, although this is different from what Wendy claims, saying it's a RB that doesnt stop RBI roles "
Is this it's own unique action or does it add onto every action?
Claiming neutral didn't get you killed. Using your action for very non-neutral purposes(finding out Blendin's alignment. I mean, what neutral does that instead of asking for bulletproof or something??? Not to mention you got the win con weirdly right, plus the fact you did the gambit at all is not something a neutral benign would do. This was useful for town, yes, but it's not something neutral does lol) + Wendy saying you attacked Tambry + the fact that we probably would have lost already if you were really neutral + the fact I got strongman attacked the night after I ate your candy is what is getting you killed.
Idk if you ever claimed it, but what is your win condition exactly?
The only win-cons that were flipped at that point were
Town: Win condition: Eliminate all evil-doers. You do not need to survive to the end. If the Town's wincon is achieved, you win even if you are dead, as long as at least one Town member is alive.
??? Scum There was more to this role card...You are sure there was. You looked around.. it seemed to of vanished without a trace! Who could of done such an awful thing???!!
Neutral Mastermind This section of the role card seems to be snuffed out. This was the final act of the Mastermind it seems... but they were connected to a faction it seems.
Jester Wincon: Get lynched during the day.
None of these provide a template for you to use at all.
Now THAT is what I call a scumslip
Nice catch Candy ^^
"Power 1
cute look anyone attemting to visit you with this power active will be role blocked.
Power 2
Murder once per game use ur sharp bunny teeth to kill someone. This kills even if heal via doctor style role however doesnt kill ppl with night imunity or an item that gives night immunity like a bullet proof vest..
Power 3
Investigate learn someones role that you target. you will not gain hidden information nor the alignment.
Power 4
Basically bodyguard but follows power 2 rules also the attacker will die. With a condition that if the target is attacked by someone that can kill night immune you die instead"
I'm confused. This doesn't align with you saying he used Cute look on Tambry N1? How could a reflexive action target someone who didn't target him?
I was worried that Gideon might have actually have disguised as McGucket, so I went through all their posts, looking closely at their auras and comparing McGucket's aura before the disguise would have happened to after it would have happened.
But Gideon and McGucket have completely different auras! And McGucket's aura from before the disguise would have happened pretty closely matches his aura afterwards. ^^
There were some minor differences, but nothing so drastic as to suggest that it's Gideon in disguise! Maybe just a bad night's sleep throwing off his aura?
Still doesn't explain how McGucket could be alive if what Wendy said is true, but we can at least rule out McGucket being disguised as the reason. ^^
I have given town 98% of everything.. I know... I know more about the Alucard role.. I also know chat blocks.. But Im tired remind me to give this info in the morning.. Im going to get food and crashing for today.
@FM-Candy Chiu
Will you be online close to EoD?
-unvote
4 now
Some things to consider:
If McGucket is town:
You protect me, McGucket protects you, we eliminate Dipper.
Go into day 5 with one of: 3v1v1, 3v2, 2v1v1, or 2v2
But in all of the scenarios either both of us are still alive
We should have very good winning chances in every scenario except for 2v2 ^^
Even in the 2v1v1 we have good chances as we have two 50/50 chances to win - either find the scum with KP or you correctly guess who scum will target and you save them.
The only risk is the 2v2 scenario which would require Wendy + Soos being scum that can win together (eg Mafia)
In which case, we can still win, but chances are harder, requires two correct 50/50 guesses in a row on your part.
I initially ruled out Wendy + Soos scum team because of how much they went after each other on day 1, but I forgot that we've now heard from multiple sources that scum chats were anonymous until after Gideon died, so Wendy and Soos going at each other on day 1 is actually not an anti-pairing at all, especially since they kind of stopped going after each other as soon as Gideon died iirc.
But in order for that team to exist, it would mean Dipper would have to be the other Illuminati who bussed his teammate in hilariously poor fashion as he scum-slipped their win-con in the process, leading to his own elimination the very next day. Not to mention that it's likely impossible anyway since Illuminati shouldn't be able to use their elimination save on someone in the Illuminati according to the rolecard Blendin flipped.
If McGucket is scum:
Doing the same "You protect me, McGucket protects you, we eliminate Dipper." runs the risk of McGucket being on a scum team with Wendy or Soos and we lose a 2v2 where you're probably dead.
If it's 2v1v1 there are still some chances for town as McGucket would be outted scum, and 3v1 would be an easy win.
Thoughts?
If gideon visited me with his action, I should be dead, not disguised, not converted.
The deathnote also implicates me directly in his murder. If I didn't visit gideon, he shouldn't be dead, nor should there be a deathnote implicating me.
So some error has been made or several convoluted mechanics we know nothing about are coalescing at once.
@FM-Wendy Corduroy Would you mind pestering host to confirm you did get the correct actions for me/gidi on n2 and that you're sticking with these actions?
Consider host pestered. Also, already have the answer. Another of host errors..
Gideon Gleeful: went on a walk to Blendins house
Old Man McGucket: Uses cute ability on Gideon.
Host was extremely so im not gonna blame host for these errors.. But, It does make me look bad as if im intentionally misleading you.. I assure you that isnt the case.
Your role card having dumb anime eyes in fucks my brain up when thinking of ur abilities.
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You'd have to be a non-sentient being to kill this!
If McGucket is scum, I think he's Illuminati. There's no way Dipper is Illuminati(mech impossible because of the judge), so if they are scum aligned, they're mafia, and that means 2v1v1 is the most likely scenario for tomorrow, possibly even 3v1 if we misinterpreted some things.
The reason I think McGucket would be illuminati and not mafia is because of how buddy buddy he was with Blendin. He wanted to let Blendin live for the longest time, and corroborated a lot of the story day 2 when Blendin was attacking you (he generally stayed out of the thick of it though, which I still find quite weird. Like he said SOME things to fuel the fire, but he didn't dive deep and get into the meat of the argument really.)
I think it's also worth mentioning Soos could be the illuminati instead, though this is mainly based on the Robbie kill. Blendin could communicate to Soos that Robbie was neighborizer, and Soos could then submit the kill with that purpose.
@AIVION
I was asking AIVION too many questions and she just was like
"you know what?
if you can get even a single scum player to say in the thread
"I am scum, and I win tonight."
then ill give both you and that scum a win if you both are alive at night
but uh oh
this is KRC
you can say whatever u want
no one will care or believe you :3
Go ahead and tell them
Go ahead!
See what happens
no one will do it
UwU"
Sooo uhhhh... if any of you scum want the free win, there you go.
Everybody is equally weak on the inside, just that some present their ruins as new castles and become kings –
Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dared to dream before.
If your dear heart is wounded, my wild heart bleeds with yours.
and before anyone asks, yes, that is exactly what she said. And yes I did ask, I asked:
"can I paste a picture of what you just said in the thread?"
and you said:
"no
but you can copy paste what i said no one will believe you"
and then she sent one of those cute discord nitro emojis xP