S-FM 302: Magellan (15p)

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

This is a lie.

Hard counter claim. Jesus christ why are scum acting this way when we have so much freaking time.

I am the coroner. I've also been in touch with an architect, whom I now believe to be town. Between me, archi, and sherr (if Lois is to be believed) GG.

Look past the Jan double talk. He waffles more than the waffle house.

I did NOT expect to have to come out so early, but here we are.

-vote S-FM Jan Korvin

One of us has to go clearly.

oh boy , shit just got fun. I'm gonna have to reread D1

[S-FM Quinne]

Work.sleep.work.nospaceforgameplay

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

This strange double talk is a fake coroner claim.

I don't know what the angle is, but it is fake. That I ASSURE YOU.

He just said make a puzzle in chat that only I can solve tomorrow. Is that not what he said? I might have misunderstood him. Also, none of you are using the term double talk correctly.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

HOLD UP. THERE IS A VERY SIMPLE WAY TO PROVE WHO IS ACTUALLY CORONER.
CORONER HAS A DAY ABILITY.
IF WE TELL THEM WHO EACH TO REVEAL PUBLICALLY THEN ONLY 1 CAN ACTUALLY DO IT.
LOL SCUM ARE SO DUMB.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Well, if I'm not the coroner is going to anonymously reveal the actual role of Fat Worm Jiles, and that will get my lynched. If that anon post never arrives, you'll know i'm coroner after I'm lynched. With that in mind, do you still disbelieve me?

i didn't go to college just to not be able to read this post

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

I can do that. There are three doors. Behind one door is nothing. Behind the second a goat, and behind the third is a car. You choose a door, any door. I then open up one of the doors you didn't choose and reveal there is nothing there. Should you switch, and why? Also, tell me the percentage chance you are right/wrong.

i had this on a math exam when i was 16

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

He just said make a puzzle in chat that only I can solve tomorrow. Is that not what he said? I might have misunderstood him. Also, none of you are using the term double talk correctly.

You speak in very non concrete terms. Scum.

If you survive this day we will still win because time is on our side. You have no night kill.

[S-FM Lois Francklyn]

This is a lie.

Hard counter claim. Jesus christ why are scum acting this way when we have so much freaking time.

I am the coroner. I've also been in touch with an architect, whom I now believe to be town. Between me, archi, and sherr (if Lois is to be believed) GG.

Look past the Jan double talk. He waffles more than the waffle house.

I did NOT expect to have to come out so early, but here we are.

-vote S-FM Jan Korvin

One of us has to go clearly.

Okay, I was just about to make a post that my previous analysis could also be wrong if Korvin's plan was to setup a coroner claim all along and simply used Bart's post to crumb.. currently if it's Vladislow vs Korver I'd probably have more faith in Vladislow. I will not place my vote on Korver though because I'm going to bed. Keep me in mind on Korver though, thanks.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

He just said make a puzzle in chat that only I can solve tomorrow. Is that not what he said? I might have misunderstood him. Also, none of you are using the term double talk correctly.

hey jan are you going to address the elephant in the room?

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

LOL WHAT

Once I figure out how to vote this guy is voted.

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

This is a lie.

Hard counter claim. Jesus christ why are scum acting this way when we have so much freaking time.

I am the coroner. I've also been in touch with an architect, whom I now believe to be town. Between me, archi, and sherr (if Lois is to be believed) GG.

Look past the Jan double talk. He waffles more than the waffle house.

I did NOT expect to have to come out so early, but here we are.

-vote S-FM Jan Korvin

One of us has to go clearly.

Actually if you counterclaim, I will not vote to lynch either of you, and instead I will let you sit until you read more and more people.
If scum refuse to make their nightkill then we are free to lynch around you and our towncores, and each day you will be expected to give a visit to the person we have lynched, scum charges are limited to two framings (maybe four if role inheritance by Godfather is that) and they would have to prepare and coordinate each mislynch consecutively. There is additionally only one charge (or two) of roleblocks, so finally after three days if both of you aren't dead and have been giving the same feedback we can decide to lynch you then.

Otherwise, enjoy unlynchable status.

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

I can do that. There are three doors. Behind one door is nothing. Behind the second a goat, and behind the third is a car. You choose a door, any door. I then open up one of the doors you didn't choose and reveal there is nothing there. Should you switch, and why? Also, tell me the percentage chance you are right/wrong.

What is this, Let's make a deal? WTF is this cryptic nonsense.

I am very familiar with the monte carlo problem BTW. Always switch, odds jump from 1/3 to 1/2 because the door eliminated never has the car.

SCUM.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Once I figure out how to vote this guy is voted.

Not Dr. Quacksworth the guy claiming coroner sorry!!!

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

What is this, Let's make a deal? WTF is this cryptic nonsense.

I am very familiar with the monte carlo problem BTW. Always switch, odds jump from 1/3 to 1/2 because the door eliminated never has the car.

SCUM.

You are not familiar with the game theory, and you got the answer wrong. Sorry. You are on a losing streak buddy.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

Can somebody please acknowledge my giant oversized post and plan please

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

WINS

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

Can somebody please acknowledge my giant oversized post and plan please

i would if i had the braincells left to do the work

it does work during the day, right?

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

Can somebody please acknowledge my giant oversized post and plan please

It's useless, read mine.

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

Can somebody please acknowledge my giant oversized post and plan please

the reveal is anonymous says the rolecard :/

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

How do I vote Stimpy Is this right? Where do I put his name and do I include the S-FM? [vote.][/vote]

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

You are not familiar with the game theory, and you got the answer wrong. Sorry. You are on a losing streak buddy.

Scum, I literally gave a workshop to high schoolers on this very famous problem.

What is your angle, how many puzzles are you going to distract us with?

What is your plan? Surely you knew coroner would PUBLICLY CC you.

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

Can somebody please acknowledge my giant oversized post and plan please

I saw it and you're correct. You need Ganelon online & it needs to be timed properly so they cannot counterclaim that they pushed the announcement.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

We can use the Coroner's day ability to determine which of these 2 is telling the truth right here right now

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

So are we getting this mass claim underway or whats up , i truly think this setup is simply mechanically solved

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

the reveal is anonymous says the rolecard :/

no if we tell strictly only ONE of the claims to do it, and if it doesn't happen we lynch the one who we told to reveal
if they do reveal we lynch the other claim

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

the reveal is anonymous says the rolecard :/

It would still work. We just tell one of them to do it and the other not to.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

So are we getting this mass claim underway or whats up , i truly think this setup is simply mechanically solved

lets wait on that after we resolve this 1v1

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

We can use the Coroner's day ability to determine which of these 2 is telling the truth right here right now

We DO NOT need it and we can save his ability for a check tomorrow or the day after (depending on roles scum rolled) and instead of risking the mislynch, they can both be alive while we get free information.

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

It's useless, read mine.

It's not useless. Use your brain.
We just tell Kennt to do the reveal and Jan not to.

If the anon reveal comes through then Kennt is confirmed and Jan is dead.
If it doesn't come through then we wait a suitable time and try the reversal.

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

It would still work. We just tell one of them to do it and the other not to.

holy shit i'm retarded , ur right

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

Unfortunately the choice MUST BE MADE when autopsying the corpse whether or not to reveal.

Jan clearly doesn't know that.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Scum, I literally gave a workshop to high schoolers on this very famous problem.

What is your angle, how many puzzles are you going to distract us with?

What is your plan? Surely you knew coroner would PUBLICLY CC you.

It doesn't jump to 1/2 chance he's right or wrong, and if you are teaching this game theory to highschoolers you are out of your mind. When this was first published in Readers Digest 100 PhDs mailed in to tell him the answer was INDEED 50% and 100 PhDs were wrong. If you are a teacher you never seen this. This is an upper level math problem for math majors and engineers. I am neither but I love game theory and know the answer.

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

It's not useless. Use your brain.
We just tell Kennt to do the reveal and Jan not to.

If the anon reveal comes through then Kennt is confirmed and Jan is dead.
If it doesn't come through then we wait a suitable time and try the reversal.

we don't even need to do the reversal
town has no inventive to reveal for the scum

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

We DO NOT need it and we can save his ability for a check tomorrow or the day after (depending on roles scum rolled) and instead of risking the mislynch, they can both be alive while we get free information.

Are you scum trying to save your Fake coroner? This plan makes ZERO sense.

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

HOLD UP. THERE IS A VERY SIMPLE WAY TO PROVE WHO IS ACTUALLY CORONER.
CORONER HAS A DAY ABILITY.
IF WE TELL THEM WHO EACH TO REVEAL PUBLICALLY THEN ONLY 1 CAN ACTUALLY DO IT.
LOL SCUM ARE SO DUMB.

LOL WHAT

[S-FM Gollert Twissell]

READ THE SCUM ROLECARDS

We do not lynch either of these claims.

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

We can use the Coroner's day ability to determine which of these 2 is telling the truth right here right now

can I post anonymously during the day what his role was now that i've cked him?

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

It doesn't jump to 1/2 chance he's right or wrong, and if you are teaching this game theory to highschoolers you are out of your mind. When this was first published in Readers Digest 100 PhDs mailed in to tell him the answer was INDEED 50% and 100 PhDs were wrong. If you are a teacher you never seen this. This is an upper level math problem for math majors and engineers. I am neither but I love game theory and know the answer.

Lol. You are babbling but where is your vote?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

we don't even need to do the reversal
town has no inventive to reveal for the scum

I am just trying to cover the caveat that the Host may not be online and so an Action Message Order may not go through to him

[S-FM Marlwyn Janson]

We still need Ganelon online.

It needs to be timed properly.

We need to 100% verify that Mafia has only one night kill.

Also, another take-away is that Vlad claims there's an Architect so if his claim is correct we know a town PR / scum PR.

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

Unfortunately the choice MUST BE MADE when autopsying the corpse whether or not to reveal.

Jan clearly doesn't know that.

wait you have to specify you want to publicly reveal the role , when you send in your night action ?

[S-FM Marck Wilbird]

I'm trying to make dinner and play a game with my family

ffs lmao

I'll be back later

[S-FM Jan Korvin]

Lol. You are babbling but where is your vote?

FFS I have half a mind to tell you the answer, prove you are a fool, and link the correct answer. Need to remember the name of the game theory problem and link the answer, I can't remeber its name. Its very famous.

[S-FM Vladislow Kennt]

It doesn't jump to 1/2 chance he's right or wrong, and if you are teaching this game theory to highschoolers you are out of your mind. When this was first published in Readers Digest 100 PhDs mailed in to tell him the answer was INDEED 50% and 100 PhDs were wrong. If you are a teacher you never seen this. This is an upper level math problem for math majors and engineers. I am neither but I love game theory and know the answer.

You are right, I got mixed up, it jumps to 2/3. It all hinges on the door opened always being empty before being presented the final two doors.

Still scum though. What did you aim to get out of this claim?

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

I mean it seems pretty likely now that Jan has made this whole thing up.
But we need to confirm it when Ganelon is online.

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

We still need Ganelon online.

It needs to be timed properly.

We need to 100% verify that Mafia has only one night kill.

Also, another take-away is that Vlad claims there's an Architect so if his claim is correct we know a town PR / scum PR.

thats very interesting since architect chat persists through the day so , unless an architect comes forward we know another scum PR

[S-FM Lembird Oshay]

we got jan over here talking about game theory when the game is probably solved already

-vote S-FM Jan Korvin

my intuition never lets me down
unless it does

[S-FM Bart Pilfter]

wait you have to specify you want to publicly reveal the role , when you send in your night action ?

That's weird and not how I interpreted the role card.

[S-FM Fred Attlebish]

Sorry about that, I'll step it up. Slept two hours a couple days ago and haven't been fully awake since. I'm busy sorting through information though. I guess I'll leave you my Day 1 reads whilst doing so.

Spoiler : Day 1 reads :

S-FM Lois Francklyn++++
S-FM Gollert Twissell++++
S-FM Arnarld Quinne+++-
S-FM Marlwyn Janson++++
S-FM Jan Korvin+++-
S-FM Marck Wilbird+-
S-FM Bart Pilfter++--
S-FM Rotholfo Goncales+
S-FM Billigan Holbird++-
S-FM Vlädislow Kennt+-
S-FM Joha Schtilzt
S-FM Lembird Oshay+-
S-FM Fred Attlebish++
S-FM Edoua Maije++-

I like this (if it is real) Shows you are evaluating. But can you give a read why You are town reading me what is each plus for?

[S-FM Edoua Maije]

I like this (if it is real) Shows you are evaluating. But can you give a read why You are town reading me what is each plus for?

this man just started reading and doesn't even know what kind of a good time he's in for , hi fred