Guys I'm town you can post lol
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GOOD THING I CANT BE NIGHT KILLED YOU BASTARDS LOL
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What's up pringles?
goofy people go AFK as soon as I show up, bye then
Let's just say I'm trying a different playstyle. I'm definitely not as tunnely as my first game as town. You can definitely say I've been too jumpy though.
I gtg, but we need to take VCA more seriously. It's how I caught Renegade and how I think we'll catch scum today.
SJ, me, and Gane voted Renegade.
Frinckles, naz, and rene voted Gane.
I'm still figuring out how to approach this day 2. I wish people were less apathetic. I'm not sure why we don't test trains on day 2.
@Ganelon just read a few pages back, Frinckles posted that info already.
I agree but I know I'm town, Rene dead and flipped red plus he voted Ganelon out of self pres at EoD more than a real push, so that just leaves Frinckles.
Ceko u created an argument for rene so ur town. Mafia can't bus in this setup. I will operate with that until 2 town ML, then reconsider. Same for SJ, I found his vote and reason:
Ganelon however had poor reason for vote and did so before SJ so if any in there was a bus it'd be him.
I'm thinking mafia was just a null/no voter and to look outside the 2 trains today
Mafia bus in this setup all the time lol. It’s exactly why they win so often. Voting Renegade doesn’t make you town.
Voting one way or the other isn’t in and of itself alignment indicative in this setup. Before anyone gets the wrong idea, I’m not arguing that scum will be bussing each other at every opportunity. But do not exclude the possibility of bussing. It is a very real one IMO.
I personally want to look at the non-voters. Frinckles’ vote could be suspicious if he seriously thought he could get people to vote me instead of Renegade. I also don’t like how you cleared yourself from that group lol, according to your theory you’re scum.
My reason for voting Renegade isn’t bad.
If you ask me what I thought about you, I think you’re Town this game, but I’m not sure. I just don’t see you clearing yourself like that as scum lol nobody does that.
If there’s anyone I’d like to look at today it would be a) aamirus b) Frinckles; aamirus for a couple of reasons. First, she listened to me at a time that no one else did whilst not exactly defending me; secondly, I really don’t like how aamirus trolled about being scum so much lol.
Frinckles’ switch to me could be seen as opportunistic especially at the end of d1. I’ll argue that from a meta perspective, I do see Frinckles bussing Renegade if he thought it was necessary but it depends a great deal on if he thought he could get someone else to vote him or not lol. If he just switched to me literally prior to EoD, then... I guess we into complicated land. More likely for him to be town in that world than scum.
Ceko seems fine from my perspective, I don’t have a read on them atm though.
Noz is a townread for me. I don’t like how he didn’t vote yesterday however lol.
So: what we need to do is to come up with a fool-proof lynch plan, for which we’ll need a list of four people, in order of scumminess, to be lynched today.
Btw, I haven’t actually checked that setup BUT, if you google White Flag on MafiaScum (basically Black Flagbut with nightkills), scum wins 70% of the time because they’re more willing to bus.If anyone wants to check any of the White Flag games there, please tell me if and how often the scum push each other in those games.
My reason for voting Renegade was not poor lol. I already explained that I felt uncomfortable with how closely Renegade had been buddying me, especially without providing an adequate defense of me. Tbh if you ask me it’s peollyfrinckles lol.
Beaides, my scum buddy would never, ever try to save me like that. I would’ve bussed the fuck out of me if I were scum, simply because shit like that is too dangerous for the scum team. Tbh, I don’t see scum defending each other in this setup. Aamirus is much more likely to be Renegades scum buddy because she tried to get me to push someone other than him, thus drawing attention away from me and also buddying me. The cynic would also say that she was trying f to draw attention away from Renegade as well, who had basically outed himself as scum by defending me in that manner. Then, she did point out Renegades scuminess, so there’s that.
So: TL;DR push Frinckles, aamirus? And I guess, I iunno, Varcron? No idea who to push after that lol
The issue is that Varcron has basically not posted at all.
Banana can’t be scum I think unless he’s scum with Frinckles. No way scum would have that mental breakdown and threaten to replace unless people lynched Frinckles lol.
Btw I mean that, if the scum team tried to defend one of their own in this setup, they would most probably be trying to divert attention onto a different lynch. So out of someone like Renegade (defending me, and someone like aamirus, defending Renegade, I would be that much more likely to see aamirus being the scum defending another scum rather than vice versa.
So let’s nust have everyone post their preferred lynch list, in order, maybe even as a condorcet vote. I’d want Frinckles, aamirus, Varcron, and then either SJ or Ceko.
does the white flag setup end after u lynch 2 mafia? I'm not gonna go look up other games dude, u go look it up with ur random statistics
u voted Renegade and just wrote "let's see where this goes"
Scum lose today if we lynch 1 more mafia lol we should just train people to see reactions tbh but its hard in a game so AFK so shrug...we will probably miss today
I’d been scumreading Renegade for a while before that lol. And yes, it ends once 2 mafia are dead. The win rate for that setup is 70% for the mafia. I can only find one match for Black Flag, which ended in a town win, so that’s not really enough for us to get a rough estimate of how often scum win the nightless version.
Ill pull up the posts, brb
So apparently I didn’t make a post about it, my bad, but I did agree with aamirus that Renegade seemed to be buddying me.
-vote Frinckles
I', sad.
-vote Frinckles
no nrg to write w a l l
UwU
It's a tossup between aamirus and ceko, leaning towards aamirus because of how much A. she's attempting to make it seem like we're bussing (or was, look at D1) and B. the train on her yesterday didn't form quickly, which is typically indicative of scum reluctance to vote.
So I'm scum with Renegade in what world?
Besides the vote switch there is zero reason to vote me. No info. Just a "ohhhh okay! He REALLY DID want to lynch Ganelon" and then you go after my list the next day lol
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Taking things like a vote switch at face value is silly especially when there was not majority or plurality. We had two competing wagons and scum was lynched. I stand by what I said about the possibility of two scum wagons. But if you guys REALLY can't understand that go for it.
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And spending 2 minutes to make a "process of elimination" with arrows pointing to the next person is not critical thinking. Its memes.
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& briefly touched on ""my meta"" (aka 1 game where I was scum with blink & distorted and avoided them so they could carry me) of avoiding scummates
meta resets, especially when u stop playing fm so maybe give some real reasons I'm scum or ur just going for LHF
hasn't focused on any other players and just has tunnel vision?
time to go
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Naz, have you ever been lynched? :P
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Yeah i think my gut tells me this is a town reaction to being pushed lol.
-vote Varcron
I still don’t think it’s naz though