M-FM Fringe: Alternate Universe

[Forum Mafia GM]

Welcome to the Rest of D1!

Living Players:
1. M-FM Kyokokirigiri
2. M-FM Yes
3. M-FM Zealot
4. M-FM Zynonymous
5. M-FM Almost Late
6. AnassRhamur
7. M-FM Cruise Elroy
8. M-FM Kool-Aid
9. M-FM Marksman

[Forum Mafia GM]

Let the day resume!

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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Pac-Man disappeared while I was hunting him! Clearly, he's been moved to the other universe...the only way I can catch him NOW is to survive until the universes remerge and THEN I'll find him!

[M-FM Zealot]

Walternate! We need you!!!

[M-FM Marksman]

Welcome to the Rest of D1!

Living Players:
1. M-FM Kyokokirigiri
2. M-FM Yes
3. M-FM Zealot
4. M-FM Zynonymous
5. M-FM Almost Late
6. AnassRhamur
7. M-FM Cruise Elroy
8. M-FM Kool-Aid
9. M-FM Marksman

Oh god. This is possibly the worst combination of people to have in a single universe. Ugh.

Let's see, we have...

1. Kyoko Kirigiri- AKA the random voter and setup ignore-er that started it all...
2. Yes- probably my #1 scum read right now.
3. Zealot- my #1 discredit-er
4. Zynonymous- Probably the best person on this list so far. Which isn't saying much since I have a null read on him. It's mostly just a low bar set by the first 3.
5. Almost Late- Has 4 posts to his name, none of which have been particularly insightful.
6. AnassRhamur- Has posted exactly once to say "-notafk". Yeah.
7. Cruise Elroy- Won't shut up about Pacman. We get it, your account name is an obscure Pacman reference. Woop-dee-fucking-doo
8. Kool-Aid- Almost exclusively shitposts with a couple of newbie questions mixed in.
9. Marksman- Me. The bastion of sanity in this hellhole of a universe.

[M-FM Kool-Aid]

Oh god. This is possibly the worst combination of people to have in a single universe. Ugh.

Let's see, we have...

1. Kyoko Kirigiri- AKA the random voter and setup ignore-er that started it all...
2. Yes- probably my #1 scum read right now.
3. Zealot- my #1 discredit-er
4. Zynonymous- Probably the best person on this list so far. Which isn't saying much since I have a null read on him. It's mostly just a low bar set by the first 3.
5. Almost Late- Has 4 posts to his name, none of which have been particularly insightful.
6. AnassRhamur- Has posted exactly once to say "-notafk". Yeah.
7. Cruise Elroy- Won't shut up about Pacman. We get it, your account name is an obscure Pacman reference. Woop-dee-fucking-doo
8. Kool-Aid- Almost exclusively shitposts with a couple of newbie questions mixed in.
9. Marksman- Me. The bastion of sanity in this hellhole of a universe.

I'm going to agree with Zealot to be honest, a lot of what you say comes out negative or as if you feel superior to others which is as normal thing to question

[M-FM Yes]

[M-FM Yes]

[M-FM Yes]

[M-FM Almost Late]

Ugh this website is shitting itself, last post got deleted. Alright so finally found the universe. 2 or 3 of the people here are scum. Looking at the list i'm going to guess 3.

What i didn't expect and suprises me is that we can't see anything of the other universe at all. We can't see their chat , their votes, who died. I thought we would have acces to the thread. We should have tried to form a strategy before we split.

This also makes this game a whole lot harder considering scum can talk with each other 24/7 and report. So they know how the votes are going on the other side and try to sway if needed. And with the posts so far i think this is the hardest universe.

Yes why are you spending your time posting shitty emoticons, instead of being productive ?

-vote M-FM Yes

[M-FM Yes]

Ugh this website is shitting itself, last post got deleted. Alright so finally found the universe. 2 or 3 of the people here are scum. Looking at the list i'm going to guess 3.

What i didn't expect and suprises me is that we can't see anything of the other universe at all. We can't see their chat , their votes, who died. I thought we would have acces to the thread. We should have tried to form a strategy before we split.

This also makes this game a whole lot harder considering scum can talk with each other 24/7 and report. So they know how the votes are going on the other side and try to sway if needed. And with the posts so far i think this is the hardest universe.

Yes why are you spending your time posting shitty emoticons, instead of being productive ?

-vote M-FM Yes

These blanket assumptions are useless. We could easily have 4 scum players in our universe. The balance will shift throughout the game so it doesn't really matter what we start with. Looking at the list of players shouldn't give you an idea of the amount of scum players we have.

[M-FM Zealot]

Neither me nor Cruise Elroy posted anything productive, so why Yes over one of us?

[M-FM Zealot]

Also Marksman literally posted a wall post whining about who is in thia universe with him

[M-FM Kool-Aid]

By the way,, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say the universes are split 2 scum in one, 3 the other && 2 fringe agents each... would that be an accurate assumption?

[M-FM Zynonymous]

By the way,, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say the universes are split 2 scum in one, 3 the other && 2 fringe agents each... would that be an accurate assumption?

I agree. It would make sense for too much scum to be given the chance to have 3 lone mafia, it would never collapse. So it's sort of a given.

The setup stated that the universes split would not be random. I would assume that the power is evenly distributed for all roles.

[M-FM Zynonymous]

I would assume that the power is evenly distributed for all roles.

As in, we can't expect all of us to be citizens.

[M-FM Almost Late]

Ugh this website is shitting itself, last post got deleted. Alright so finally found the universe. 2 or 3 of the people here are scum. Looking at the list i'm going to guess 3.

-vote M-FM Yes

By the way,, I'm going to take a stab in the dark and say the universes are split 2 scum in one, 3 the other && 2 fringe agents each... would that be an accurate assumption?

Thats a pretty big stab in the dark considering i said it 2 posts before you.

[M-FM Kool-Aid]

Thats a pretty big stab in the dark considering i said it 2 posts before you.

Tbf I had not seen your post when I wrote this

[AnassRhamur]

Tbf I had not seen your post when I wrote this

Are you Mesk?

[AnassRhamur]

Thats a pretty big stab in the dark considering i said it 2 posts before you.

Are you Mesk?

[M-FM Kool-Aid]

Right now I'm thinking Kyoko & almost late.
Kyoko seems to have an attitude but has given minimal worthy input with it. This is in contrast to marksman who has as well an attitude, but at least explains why.
Marksman is probably one of my higher town reads. however I like Zealot as well. I think for pregame its important just to show up... give a little input here and there. I think scum would be more of the "go with the flow" kind of people.... but zealot doesn't seem to be taking other people's shit sooo

[M-FM Zealot]

Right now I'm thinking Kyoko & almost late.
Kyoko seems to have an attitude but has given minimal worthy input with it. This is in contrast to marksman who has as well an attitude, but at least explains why.
Marksman is probably one of my higher town reads. however I like Zealot as well. I think for pregame its important just to show up... give a little input here and there. I think scum would be more of the "go with the flow" kind of people.... but zealot doesn't seem to be taking other people's shit sooo

Almost late sticks out to me as gunning for a low hanging fruit (YES) right off the bat today but to he honest nothing else has stood out to me so far from them. I'll have to reread them

[M-FM Almost Late]

Almost late sticks out to me as gunning for a low hanging fruit (YES) right off the bat today but to he honest nothing else has stood out to me so far from them. I'll have to reread them

I gun for anybody who shows anti town behaviour. He's hardly a low hanging fruit , he's simply useless right now.

Show me his town behaviour and i'll gladly move my vote, for now i don't see why you feel the need to defend him.
I'll be back in 2 hours.

[M-FM Zealot]

I gun for anybody who shows anti town behaviour. He's hardly a low hanging fruit , he's simply useless right now.

Show me his town behaviour and i'll gladly move my vote, for now i don't see why you feel the need to defend him.
I'll be back in 2 hours.

You didn't answer why you targeted one person showing anti town behavior over the other 3 that were also showing anti town behavior (me, cruise, and Marksman)

The only difference FMPOV is that Yes attracted more negative attention in the pre-game -> hence low hanging fruit

If I'm wrong correct me instead of using a "why are you defending him" blanket statement

[M-FM Almost Late]

Right now I'm thinking Kyoko & almost late.
Kyoko seems to have an attitude but has given minimal worthy input with it. This is in contrast to marksman who has as well an attitude, but at least explains why.
Marksman is probably one of my higher town reads. however I like Zealot as well. I think for pregame its important just to show up... give a little input here and there. I think scum would be more of the "go with the flow" kind of people.... but zealot doesn't seem to be taking other people's shit sooo

You like Zealot, we get it you said it 2 posts in a row now.

Any explanation for throwing shade on me ? Considering we have Cruise Assrha

[M-FM Yes]

Right now I'm thinking Kyoko & almost late.
Kyoko seems to have an attitude but has given minimal worthy input with it. This is in contrast to marksman who has as well an attitude, but at least explains why.
Marksman is probably one of my higher town reads. however I like Zealot as well. I think for pregame its important just to show up... give a little input here and there. I think scum would be more of the "go with the flow" kind of people.... but zealot doesn't seem to be taking other people's shit sooo

I can understand town reading zealot right now but your reasoning for town reading marksman is her attitude? I don't follow.

[M-FM Zealot]

I can understand town reading zealot right now but your reasoning for town reading marksman is her attitude? I don't follow.

What I meant to say is:

Why Kool aid? The only thing you quoted from him was that you found it weird that he town read the red head

[M-FM Yes]

What I meant to say is:

Why Kool aid? The only thing you quoted from him was that you found it weird that he town read the red head

sheep vote and lack of content basically

[M-FM Zealot]

sheep vote and lack of content basically

Given your start, pointing out lack of content is pretty hilarious.

[M-FM Kool-Aid]

Also, who is this assrhamur && why is yes posting emoticons. That's so random.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Marksman hates roleplay.

[M-FM Marksman]

Oh hey. While I was gone some of you actually decided to start making real posts. Maybe this universe won't be so bad after all.

Marksman hates roleplay.

I don't hate it if it's done well and doesn't interfere with actual discussion/contribution. But when you're yapping about Pacman instead of saying anything of substance, no, I'm not a fan.

[AnassRhamur]

Oh hey. While I was gone some of you actually decided to start making real posts. Maybe this universe won't be so bad after all.



I don't hate it if it's done well and doesn't interfere with actual discussion/contribution. But when you're yapping about Pacman instead of saying anything of substance, no, I'm not a fan.

Hey you seem active. I don't have time to read everything that happened I'm at work. Im a janitor that works at this school in Boston. Its mainly keeping the school looking nice but there are these math problems on a chalkboard that i like to solve at night. Thats why i don't have much time. I love differential equations ja feel me. But anyway the other day some douche ass professor was like HEY QUIT VANDALIZING and i was like ay fuck you too buddy. Now he's like ay come work for me and im just like naw. But anyway my point is im very busy could you summarize everything that has happened so far

[M-FM Marksman]

[bunch of annoying bullshit] could you summarize everything that has happened so far

Sure. Everyone talked for 24 hours. Then day split into 2 separate day chats (universes). Now you're competing with Yes for the title of Most Scummy Motherfucker in this universe. So far he's in the lead, but with a few more posts like this I'm sure you'll catch up to him in no time.

[AnassRhamur]

Marksman hates roleplay.

Are you Mesk?

[M-FM Marksman]

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[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Alright, so. Since people want me to get down to business, let's get down to it.

Zynonymous makes a good point about even power balance, and I wouldn't be surprised if it goes that way.

Assrhamur is looking like he's basically a spoiler for better players.

Marksman comes off town, seems very focused on getting the job done. I like this, although attitude could use some improvement.

Zealot is unreadable to me.

Yes isn't contributing and might be a good policy lynch. Or they could be a Citizen who is trolling.

That's what stands out to me right now.

[M-FM Zealot]

Alright, so. Since people want me to get down to business, let's get down to it.

Zynonymous makes a good point about even power balance, and I wouldn't be surprised if it goes that way.

Assrhamur is looking like he's basically a spoiler for better players.

Marksman comes off town, seems very focused on getting the job done. I like this, although attitude could use some improvement.

Zealot is unreadable to me.

Yes isn't contributing and might be a good policy lynch. Or they could be a Citizen who is trolling.

That's what stands out to me right now.

Assrhamur is the only PL at this time if you're going to suggest a PL. He has only posted -notafk so far if I remember right.

[AnassRhamur]

Assrhamur is the only PL at this time if you're going to suggest a PL. He has only posted -notafk so far if I remember right.

Listen up kid. I don't know what the fuck a PL is but i go to school and work 29 hours in a fucking lab being a total fucking slave to my professor. Last week we ran out of p-aminobenzoic acid so he made me stay and clean like some fucking janitor. Im sorry i didn't want to have a heart attack and ruin your game. If you have a problem we can step outside and have a duel. If you don't have a gun you can have my MP5 that shoots .22LR. The joke here is that the bullet is the size of a bibi

[M-FM Almost Late]

Im on my mobile but sure ill answer.

You and marksman gave me a good impression in pregame trying to get discussion started.

That leaves cruise assra and yes

Assra posted once so my vote on him would do nothing because i doubt he is even coming back this day

That leaves cruise and yes. I made the choice for yes since i find 3 emoticon posts more ridiculous than some rp posts. Rp posts happen at the start and then die down

I hate this useless playstyle because it never benefits town. If he is tpr trying to hide he should learn how to actually hide and still contribute. Hence my vote

[M-FM Zealot]

Okay I can understand that

[M-FM Almost Late]

That being said i dont think we got a bad universe of players with some activity we can make this work.

I didnt want sino or dw since i hate readind their logic so

Whats on my mind is 2 things.
Should we discusa what to do when we get a visitor. And all things we discuss can be used by mafia in the other day so how careful should we be

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

That being said i dont think we got a bad universe of players with some activity we can make this work.

I didnt want sino or dw since i hate readind their logic so

Whats on my mind is 2 things.
Should we discusa what to do when we get a visitor. And all things we discuss can be used by mafia in the other day so how careful should we be

Yeah I hate reasoning with them too.

Should we discuss _____________________________?
Heck yes. Why do you even need to ask?

My thought is that when we get a visitor, we don't lynch them because they are our guests and secondly because the other side chose not to lynch them. So we give them a town handicap or something.

We shouldn't be careful about day chat because..
I don't see a problem letting mafia know what we are discussing.
If we were careful.. how the heck would we do that?
I don't see a problem, I don't see a solution.

[M-FM Marksman]

My thought is that when we get a visitor, we don't lynch them because they are our guests and secondly because the other side chose not to lynch them. So we give them a town handicap or something.

I disagree. The other side not lynching them means very little. They might have simply had a better target that day and not known the person would be able to swap universes. Or they may have fully intended to lynch the person, but we managed to get more votes on whoever we decided to lynch that day. Furthermore, even if the visitor was hailed as the towniest towny to ever town in the other universe, they lacked the knowledge that he could switch universes, so we have new information that they did not have. At the very least, all new visitors must claim how they got here. If the person claims to have moved themselves here (enhanced cit) then we should policy lynch them to catch William Bell (unless Bell is dead already).

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

I disagree. The other side not lynching them means very little. They might have simply had a better target that day and not known the person would be able to swap universes. Or they may have fully intended to lynch the person, but we managed to get more votes on whoever we decided to lynch that day. Furthermore, even if the visitor was hailed as the towniest towny to ever town in the other universe, they lacked the knowledge that he could switch universes, so we have new information that they did not have. At the very least, all new visitors must claim how they got here. If the person claims to have moved themselves here (enhanced cit) then we should policy lynch them to catch William Bell (unless Bell is dead already).

I keep forgetting that only one universe gets to lynch. Also, after thinking about it, I don't see why an enhanced citizen would want to switch in the first place.

I quite like you mentioning the policy lynching of them. It was mentioned in setup workshop by one of the critiques, but I just can't see why William Bell would want to switch universes. He charges a person in each universe, which means he doesn't need to switch to kill. A possible reason he would switch would be if he came under suspicion, in that event, wouldn't we just simply tell him to switch back to their own universe/ threaten to policy lynch him then? I'd guess it would have to depend on what kind of news they bring.

[M-FM Yes]

I keep forgetting that only one universe gets to lynch. Also, after thinking about it, I don't see why an enhanced citizen would want to switch in the first place.

I quite like you mentioning the policy lynching of them. It was mentioned in setup workshop by one of the critiques, but I just can't see why William Bell would want to switch universes. He charges a person in each universe, which means he doesn't need to switch to kill. A possible reason he would switch would be if he came under suspicion, in that event, wouldn't we just simply tell him to switch back to their own universe/ threaten to policy lynch him then? I'd guess it would have to depend on what kind of news they bring.

Just to give info about what's happening in the other universe is the only reason I can think of.

[M-FM Almost Late]

Mechanics are unclear to me orpz. You say mafia has 24/7 chat but the second action in night priority is the opening of mafia chat.

[M-FM Zynonymous]

@OrpZed Is Mafia chat only available at night? Or is it 24/7? If 24/7, Why does it need to 'Open'?

[Forum Mafia GM]

@OrpZed Is Mafia chat only available at night? Or is it 24/7? If 24/7, Why does it need to 'Open'?

Mafia (ZFT) night chat never closes and is constantly active.

[M-FM Marksman]

@OrpZed Is Mafia chat only available at night? Or is it 24/7? If 24/7, Why does it need to 'Open'?

It really took that long to figure out?

Shade from the guy who asked a question which could have been answered by reading the setup. lol