M-FM Fringe: Alternate Universe

[M-FM Zealot]

I'm really confused by this. Pretty much if we send a scum to the other universe by mistake, we fuck every thing up as they will be stuck there (3 of them) until we vote every one in this universe down to 2 players and then lose by default when this universe collapses.

This does make me a tad wary about Marksman asking to be sent there. If she's a deep clever scum, that's an easy way to secure that universe.

[M-FM Moogle]

I'm really confused by this. Pretty much if we send a scum to the other universe by mistake, we fuck every thing up as they will be stuck there (3 of them) until we vote every one in this universe down to 2 players and then lose by default when this universe collapses.

This does make me a tad wary about Marksman asking to be sent there. If she's a deep clever scum, that's an easy way to secure that universe.

Transporter takes them back right after collasping the universe.

[M-FM Marksman]

I'm really confused by this. Pretty much if we send a scum to the other universe by mistake, we fuck every thing up as they will be stuck there (3 of them) until we vote every one in this universe down to 2 players and then lose by default when this universe collapses.

This does make me a tad wary about Marksman asking to be sent there. If she's a deep clever scum, that's an easy way to secure that universe.

I only volunteered because I'm confident I could talk them out of PLing me and, as I mentioned before, I don't trust anyone for shit, so from my perspective the only way to ensure shit gets done right is if I do it myself. I also agree with Almost Late that it's probably better to have a list of people rather than setting a single person so that scum have a harder time trying to sabotage the plan. At this point it's up to the hypothetical transporter to make the decision anyway, I guess.

Having said that, I don't think it's in the mafia's best interest to intentionally try to split themselves 3:1 across the 2 universes (assuming they started 2:2, which they may not have) because then if their lone mafia in a universe dies, they would lose access to info on that universe and if they have no enhanced citizen of their own (or if their EC is the one that died), they would all be stuck in a single universe. And even if they did have a corrupt enhanced citizen, it would be risky for them to use it, given the whole policy lynch discussion.

[M-FM Zynonymous]

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No transportation will occur as universes only collapse if there are one or two players left in said universe.

Wait...Scum would TRY to be in a universe alone, wouldn't they? I mean, if they were in a universe all to themselves, they could basically win by votes so easily.

[M-FM Zynonymous]

So I imagine we have 2-4 scum on our hands now.

[M-FM Zealot]

And Koyoko no where to be found ofc. @OrpZed could we get a replacement?

[M-FM Zealot]

And Koyoko no where to be found ofc. @OrpZed could we get a replacement?

Oh look they are browsing the thread.

I stand by my request.

[Forum Mafia GM]

And Koyoko no where to be found ofc. @OrpZed could we get a replacement?

Replacements will be decided on a case-by-case basis and given without advance notice to the other players.

[M-FM Zealot]

Cool Koyoko didn't even post even though they were here. And won't be replaced. Good game fellas.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

Cool Koyoko didn't even post even though they were here. And won't be replaced. Good game fellas.

I got tired reading through Moogle's posts, it's not like I don't post.

[M-FM Marksman]

Fuck it, let's go.

-vote M-FM Kyoko Kirigir

[M-FM Marksman]

Woops. fixed

-vote M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

Woops. fixed

-vote M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri

So we're actually going for this now? :P

[M-FM Marksman]

Eh, why not?

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

I'm currently trying to wrap my head around why Moogle would want to come to this universe, if they are town, they know their numbers are dwindling.
If they were scum, they were trying to avoid suspicion by coming here.

I believe this was already discussed earlier in the day, but for some reason this was dropped.
For me, I don't buy it, all I see was a report that a couple players are on the chopping block over there and that activity was abysmal.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

I'd rather not have Marksman be sent to the other side, partly because I don't fully trust her and also that I would rather send Zealot or AL over.
I have a better idea: assuming we have a transporter, why don't we force Moogle to go back?

[M-FM Zealot]

I'd rather not have Marksman be sent to the other side, partly because I don't fully trust her and also that I would rather send Zealot or AL over.
I have a better idea: assuming we have a transporter, why don't we force Moogle to go back?

Moogle self transports back

[M-FM Moogle]

Moogle self transports back

This, also in regard to the "i was supcicious so i left for here"

it gets pointless if im going back to begin with.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

This, also in regard to the "i was supcicious so i left for here"

it gets pointless if im going back to begin with.

So you're a lynch dodger?

[M-FM Zealot]

The idea is Moogle + one other go back

Even if someone dies here we're left with 7

[M-FM Zealot]

The idea is Moogle + one other go back

Even if someone dies here we're left with 7

Er, 6

[M-FM Zealot]

I don't even say "er" IRL, fucking brits

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

The transporter card is really interesting.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

@OrpZed Is there a notification when receiving a dead body?

[Forum Mafia GM]

@OrpZed Is there a notification when receiving a dead body?

If a person is transported to another universe the night they die, they will be transported as usual and only be revealed as dead in their new universe.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

If a person is transported to another universe the night they die, they will be transported as usual and only be revealed as dead in their new universe.

@OrpZed If a player is dead by the end of ex. day 1, is then targeted by a transporter, are they revealed as dead in their new universe?
I'm really likeing this green link color.

[M-FM Marksman]

@OrpZed

Can people that are already dead be targeted for transportation? ie. Could a transporter send Kool-Aid to the other universe?

[Forum Mafia GM]

@OrpZed If a player is dead by the end of ex. day 1, is then targeted by a transporter, are they revealed as dead in their new universe?.

All universe changes happen at the end of night, so this scenario is impossible.

Can people that are already dead be targeted for transportation? ie. Could a transporter send Kool-Aid to the other universe?

Only players who were alive at the start of the night may be transported. Kool-Aid will never be able to join the other universe.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

Transporter could send firebringer here cus he's the universal scumread there (or at least majority)

Naw that's the opposite of what we want to do. Why would we want to bring him here to make 3 scum here? Let them lynch him there.

New idea: instead of targeting Firebringer, who seems like he will be lynched, what if we snatch one of Moogle’s/our town/null reads? A universe is bound to collapse at some point, and if we just say that the other universe is not save-able, then we bolster our numbers in the long run and gives us more days to find the scum in our universe.

[M-FM Marksman]

New idea: instead of targeting Firebringer, who seems like he will be lynched, what if we snatch one of Moogle’s/our town/null reads? A universe is bound to collapse at some point, and if we just say that the other universe is not save-able, then we bolster our numbers in the long run and gives us more days to find the scum in our universe.

Guys I found william bell

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

Guys I found william bell

Tell me you didn't think of the same thing.

[M-FM Marksman]

A universe is bound to collapse at some point, and if we just say that the other universe is not save-able, then we bolster our numbers in the long run and gives us more days to find the scum in our universe.

I mean seriously. Is this not exactly the kind of shit william bell would say? This plays exactly into his wincon. Convince town to give up on a universe and let it collapse so he can swap in at the last second and get his win. Kyoko is Bell. Let's get this lynch train rolling.

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

-vote M-FM Zynonymous

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

See you all in the morning I guess.

[M-FM Zealot]

See you all in the morning I guess.

You mean see you day 4.

[M-FM Moogle]

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M-FM Moogle

i am le sad that now that i am up for a bit that i am the only on here

[M-FM Zealot]

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M-FM Moogle

i am le sad that now that i am up for a bit that i am the only on here

I am omnipresent. Just nothing worth saying.

[M-FM Moogle]

I am omnipresent. Just nothing worth saying.

Are you saying your en taro tassadar?

[M-FM Zynonymous]

I'm getting bad vibes from Marksman now. Suspicion from Kupo was dropped so easily.

[M-FM Zealot]

I'm getting bad vibes from Marksman now. Suspicion from Kupo was dropped so easily.

Cool story bro.

[M-FM Cruise Elroy]

If Kyoko actually is the William Bell, though, lynching him is a high priority, so Marksman might just have decided he was bigger fish to fry.

[M-FM Zealot]

If Kyoko actually is the William Bell, though, lynching him is a high priority, so Marksman might just have decided he was bigger fish to fry.

You're scum reading Marksman?

[M-FM Zealot]

You're scum reading Marksman?

Disregard. I misunderstood what you meant

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

Either we force Moogle to go back, or we lynch him here.
I don't see a reason to keep him.

-vote M-FM Moogle

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

Either we force Moogle to go back, or we lynch him here.
I don't see a reason to keep him.

-vote M-FM Moogle

To reiterate, I can see that if Moogle was town, maybe moving universes to prevent his own mislynch would be acceptable; however, he accepted that he would probably be lynched over here. So that doesn't really add up.

The refusal to move back— I don't see how a town player would do that.

[M-FM Yes]

To reiterate, I can see that if Moogle was town, maybe moving universes to prevent his own mislynch would be acceptable; however, he accepted that he would probably be lynched over here. So that doesn't really add up.

The refusal to move back— I don't see how a town player would do that.

When did they refuse to move back?

[M-FM Zynonymous]

When did they refuse to move back?

According to this quote:

i dont plan on going back i plan on being lynched here. im saying that if they have any brains (hint: they dont) not even marksman can talk her way out of the sheer oblvion/lurking that is going on there

[M-FM Zealot]

To reiterate, I can see that if Moogle was town, maybe moving universes to prevent his own mislynch would be acceptable; however, he accepted that he would probably be lynched over here. So that doesn't really add up.

The refusal to move back— I don't see how a town player would do that.

Moogle is going back so your point is invalid

[M-FM Moogle]

Either we force Moogle to go back, or we lynch him here.
I don't see a reason to keep him.

-vote M-FM Moogle

My plan was to go back? and no im not a lynch dodger im jsut showing how your point about me is pointless cus im gonna be going back anwyas?

[M-FM Kyoko Kirigiri]

My plan was to go back? and no im not a lynch dodger im jsut showing how your point about me is pointless cus im gonna be going back anwyas?

This, also in regard to the "i was supcicious so i left for here"

it gets pointless if im going back to begin with.

Please explain the above quote.