Invitation to The Mafia Championship Season 3

[Cryptonic]

Bahahaha. I don't know why you do this. I'm not suggesting we force hosts to do anything.

Increase time = increase ability to post more

It's very straight forward. LOL.

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You said that you told blue+ to fix activity by increasing day length, but blue+ have no way of controlling what a host does with their game other than forcing hosts to amend their games using rules.

Yes, Increased Time = Increased ability to post more
But Increased Ability to post more != Increased Activity.
Increased Activity = More activity over same time period.

So, a game with 500 posts in 48 hours is less active than a game with 300 posts in 24 hours.

It's very straight forward.

[DarknessB]

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You said that you told blue+ to fix activity by increasing day length, but blue+ have no way of controlling what a host does with their game other than forcing hosts to amend their games using rules.

Yes, Increased Time = Increased ability to post more
But Increased Ability to post more != Increased Activity.
Increased Activity = More activity over same time period.

So, a game with 500 posts in 48 hours is less active than a game with 300 posts in 24 hours.

It's very straight forward.

Basically posts per real life day, which makes sense -- making game days longer won't necessarily increase this. Could have the opposite effect if people feel like they have time to lurk / not get down to business. On that note, I wouldn't want us doing the Mafiascum style of play where game days are insanely long in real life time (10 days or whatever it is), which I feel like encourages people to take their time and not play with any sense of urgency. It should not take 2 months to finish a game.

[Frog]

Basically posts per real life day, which makes sense -- making game days longer won't necessarily increase this. Could have the opposite effect if people feel like they have time to lurk / not get down to business. On that note, I wouldn't want us doing the Mafiascum style of play where game days are insanely long in real life time (10 days or whatever it is), which I feel like encourages people to take their time and not play with any sense of urgency. It should not take 2 months to finish a game.

Bahaha, I agree 100%

10 IRL days for 1 day is insanity and not consistent with our meta at all. Let's move this topic off thread. :-)

Go for it moderator. :-)

[Frog]

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You said that you told blue+ to fix activity by increasing day length, but blue+ have no way of controlling what a host does with their game other than forcing hosts to amend their games using rules.

Yes, Increased Time = Increased ability to post more
But Increased Ability to post more != Increased Activity.
Increased Activity = More activity over same time period.

So, a game with 500 posts in 48 hours is less active than a game with 300 posts in 24 hours.

It's very straight forward.

Take a deep breath and reread the original post.

"I've already mentioned this to blue+'s, the easiest fix wrt activity is increasing day lengths from 48 hours to 72 hours. 72/24."

I'm not telling anyone to do anything. These are suggestions on how to fix issues that I've identified, and that are clearly present. How you take it from there is up to you. I'm not saying to force hosts to do anything. They're just suggestions, you can suggest hosts to think along that same line of thought.

These aren't fighting words that I started out with, and I'm not sure if this continual 1v1 is unnecessarily confrontational in lolcats, if you're generally confused, or whether you genuinely can't identify problems and find solutions.

Again, these are just suggestions! Do as you wish! In fact, I'd encourage you as a staff to spearhead this problem solution. I only bring suggestions for solutions because I care. Don't mistake my passion and 1v1 with hostility in a totally unrelated thread plox. Ty.

[Cryptonic]

Take a deep breath and reread the original post.

"I've already mentioned this to blue+'s, the easiest fix wrt activity is increasing day lengths from 48 hours to 72 hours. 72/24."

I'm not telling anyone to do anything. These are suggestions on how to fix issues that I've identified, and that are clearly present. How you take it from there is up to you. I'm not saying to force hosts to do anything. They're just suggestions, you can suggest hosts to think along that same line of thought.

These aren't fighting words that I started out with, and I'm not sure if this continual 1v1 is unnecessarily confrontational in lolcats, if you're generally confused, or whether you genuinely can't identify problems and find solutions.

Again, these are just suggestions! Do as you wish! In fact, I'd encourage you as a staff to spearhead this problem solution. I only bring suggestions for solutions because I care. Don't mistake my passion and 1v1 with hostility in a totally unrelated thread plox. Ty.

It's not a continual 1v1, it's a conversation. I have no emotion invested in this, I am literally just responding with logical statements. I don't see what I have to take a deep breath for. All I am saying is that I don't see what good telling administration that you think increasing day helps activity if you're not expecting us to intervene in host's setups. If players/hosts wanted an increase in day length, they would voice this concern in setup threads. I rarely see someone posting in a setup being like "You should make days 72 hours", ect, because that's not what the majority of our players want. From what I have seen from my time on this site; hosting countless games, playing countless games, overseeing games as FM Judge... I have seen that increasing length of day does have a negative affect on player's will to participate, because they get bored and lose interest. That is what I meant when I said "I'd bet games with shorter days have more posts per hour on our site."

I previously stated this all in a rational way. Not sure why you're blowing this out of proportion, there is no need to get defensive. You stated your opinion, I stated mine.

I still couldn't vote Yayap on the reasoning that he never plays here.

I disagree, Yayap attempts to participate in all major FMs. He is a member of our community and could represent us just fine. That being said, I'd probably still vote for Gerik, because he is one of the only players whose logical arguments & playstyle has ever actually impressed me.

That was my way of giving a sign. <_< Didn't want anyone picking up on it and killing my cult leader, so I thought acting like I hated you but not voting you would let you know I'm on your side but can't let the plebs know.

You're 100% right. if I took it from that perspective, I would've thought you were Cult and Slaol wasn't. And I would've been more successful lmao.

[Frog]

It's not a continual 1v1, it's a conversation. I have no emotion invested in this, I am literally just responding with logical statements. I don't see what I have to take a deep breath for. All I am saying is that I don't see what good telling administration that you think increasing day helps activity if you're not expecting us to intervene in host's setups. If players/hosts wanted an increase in day length, they would voice this concern in setup threads. I rarely see someone posting in a setup being like "You should make days 72 hours", ect, because that's not what the majority of our players want. From what I have seen from my time on this site; hosting countless games, playing countless games, overseeing games as FM Judge... I have seen that increasing length of day does have a negative affect on player's will to participate, because they get bored and lose interest. That is what I meant when I said "I'd bet games with shorter days have more posts per hour on our site."

I previously stated this all in a rational way. Not sure why you're blowing this out of proportion, there is no need to get defensive. You stated your opinion, I stated mine.

I saw 2 of your posts that misinterpreted what I wanted to say wrt solutions. I had to assume it was either purposeful or an honest misunderstanding.

I can respect your opinion on more of the same, but I'd like something better. I gave you guys more suggestions which I would LOVE to spearhead.

Spoiler : What If? :

Instead of me dying to mod error in the last FM, Louisiana would have died? I had pegged the scum teams in my notes and announced the majority of scum team before going into the night. In this hypothetical situation, would I have been the MVP? Bear in mind, after I died the game died. I had identified scum and was attempting to pit them against each other to make it obvious to Town. It's a complete 100% hypothetical, but I feel like for the intense effort I gave that game, nothing will ever be known. My notes are mostly all in the notebooks for anyone to look over.

Site improvements aside, can I count on your vote of confidence?