M-FM XXVIII Heaven Descends Upon Thee Gamethread

[M-FM Fred Robinson]

Considering the amount of anti town citizen type rolecards in this game, its possible my assumption of only four town power might be orf. Could be up to maybe even six as I try to think about it.

I believe that discussing the host meta choices in the amount of tprs more isn't beneficial and will only cause wifoming later on.
The best possible thing we could say is if we get many of the same claim, there may be a scum within them, but even that can be wrong.

[M-FM Bertha Anderson]

I believe that discussing the host meta choices in the amount of tprs more isn't beneficial and will only cause wifoming later on.
The best possible thing we could say is if we get many of the same claim, there may be a scum within them, but even that can be wrong.

I was not using a host meta, I was simply considering how ye would balance the game more if ye wanted to put in more town power. For instance if ye wanted more town power ye need to add more negative utility roles that weaken the town, which is where some of the Citizen type roles come in.

[M-FM Fred Robinson]

Pray to Him: At night, instead of performing an action you may pray for any of the following things, unless you are "sinful"

Forgiveness: You are no longer marked as "sinful" (the only prayer a sinful can pray for)

Does this mean a non-sinful person could pray the forgiveness prayer?

[M-FM Bertha Anderson]

Does this mean a non-sinful person could pray the forgiveness prayer?

My first thought is that No, as I can't fancy why a blok who isn't sinful pray for forgiveness. I have to take another gander at the setup but I don't recant a scum non sinful player

[M-FM Fred Robinson]

Does this mean a non-sinful person could pray the forgiveness prayer?

If so, God needs to be very wary of answering forgiveness prayers, but at the same time this would allow us to potentially narrow down scum easier.

For example if we named certain people were supposed to pray forgiveness and no one else, this could potentially be used to force a no-kill or scum reveal on the prime sinner's kill ability if tested for multiple nights in a row. However in such a case, god should not answer these prayers. This combined with the numbers of other prayers that should be prayed can be used to artificially root out scum who made a night action or the Atheists and Antichrist factions that Cannot pray if used over multiple nights.

Perhaps it would be best to follow this strategy over the first few days.
If we change out who prays what each day then we could certainly artificially determine a list of scummy people if god makes a sheet keeping track of each number to their prayers since I am currently unsure if god should should reveal each day to update this information.

Thank you Mr.Anderson for reminding me that there are charges of god's answer ability. I originally thought he had much more than 30.

Could someone clarify how god's disguise mechanic works?
Does that mean if he is shot, the player shot would flip as the disguiser players role, and god gets login info of the disguised players account and begins using that?

[M-FM Fred Robinson]

If so, God needs to be very wary of answering forgiveness prayers, but at the same time this would allow us to potentially narrow down scum easier.

For example if we named certain people were supposed to pray forgiveness and no one else, this could potentially be used to force a no-kill or scum reveal on the prime sinner's kill ability if tested for multiple nights in a row. However in such a case, god should not answer these prayers. This combined with the numbers of other prayers that should be prayed can be used to artificially root out scum who made a night action or the Atheists and Antichrist factions that Cannot pray if used over multiple nights.

Perhaps it would be best to follow this strategy over the first few days.
If we change out who prays what each day then we could certainly artificially determine a list of scummy people if god makes a sheet keeping track of each number to their prayers since I am currently unsure if god should should reveal each day to update this information.

Thank you Mr.Anderson for reminding me that there are charges of god's answer ability. I originally thought he had much more than 30.

Could someone clarify how god's disguise mechanic works?
Does that mean if he is shot, the player shot would flip as the disguiser players role, and god gets login info of the disguised players account and begins using that?

Although even if a nonsinful person cannot, this provides us with other benefits such as people lieing about performing sinful actions and merely making it slightly more difficult although just as accurate to artifically determine the scum who have a record of not praying even if it's a single time and if they do pray that forces them to do no night action including the factional kill i'm assuming.

Either way it appears to be a win-win.

[M-FM Fred Robinson]

Although even if a nonsinful person cannot, this provides us with other benefits such as people lieing about performing sinful actions and merely making it slightly more difficult although just as accurate to artifically determine the scum who have a record of not praying even if it's a single time and if they do pray that forces them to do no night action including the factional kill i'm assuming.

Either way it appears to be a win-win.

However, this is also at the cost of town choosing not to perform their night actions if they have them and praying(aka cooperation from most if not all town members if we want guaranteed scum lynches going off past a certain day) I also haven't ran the odds to determine the minimal and maximum day where this strategy can give us a guaranteed scum lynch, but I believe we could probably start lynching on high probability by at least d4.

[M-FM Bertha Anderson]

Although even if a nonsinful person cannot, this provides us with other benefits such as people lieing about performing sinful actions and merely making it slightly more difficult although just as accurate to artifically determine the scum who have a record of not praying even if it's a single time and if they do pray that forces them to do no night action including the factional kill i'm assuming.

Either way it appears to be a win-win.

Those who perform a prayer are immediately unlikely to be a town power role as well. I don't consider town power to be worried about being seen as "sinful"