S-FM 175: Not Matrix6

[Toadette]

No, but it's very strange to be lynching people who have said virtually nothing. I am trying to get myself comfortable with that idea.

1. Says the policy king, and 2. You really do favor no lynching, RLVG Jr

[MattZed]

1-and-a-half hours left to day end and we still have 3 players in this game who aren't voting.

[DarknessB]

1. Says the policy king, and 2. You really do favor no lynching, RLVG Jr

RLVG is a fine Forum Mafia player so I take this as a compliment -- thank you. It really shouldn't be a surprise that I am the anti-MattZed in terms of throwing Day 1 votes around liberally, other than blatant policy lynch situations. This isn't a policy lynch -- this is an AFK lynch.

[MattZed]

RLVG is a fine Forum Mafia player so I take this as a compliment -- thank you. It really shouldn't be a surprise that I am the anti-MattZed in terms of throwing Day 1 votes around liberally, other than blatant policy lynch situations. This isn't a policy lynch -- this is an AFK lynch.

This is a "holy shit we need to lynch someone now and the person who's not participating seems like just as fine of a candidate as any."

[Calix]

1-and-a-half hours left to day end and we still have 3 players in this game who aren't voting.

I'm going to be around and I'm going to vote because I always do. Hold your fucking horses.

I'm not "as fine a candidate as any" - you were just desperate for any old lynch and figured mine would do, because it is you >.>

[DarknessB]

This is a "holy shit we need to lynch someone now and the person who's not participating seems like just as fine of a candidate as any."

Ugh, fine -- this game is boring as hell anyway with no participation, and I don't want to sit here and have a circlejerk discussion about AFK players. Have it your way.

-vote GameFreak

[The Godfather]

GameFreak has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


GameFreak (5 [L-0]): MattZed, Spruance, Toadette, Thornholt, DarknessB
Firebringer (1 [L-4]): deathworlds
MattZed (1 [L-4]): Frog

[Sen]

The mob was tired after spending so many hours without achieving something. They decided to take a lunch break, since there are hundreds of sandwiches around, after all, but before that happened, someone suggested to kill GameFreak while he was using the toilets. Most agreed.
He was a Vanilla, and left a last will:

I can't believe you all hammered while i was in the thread making a response , fucking absurd.
You must have seen me reading the posts. Yeah i was inactive no joke , i got an exam in 10 hours.

As it often happens after eating 12 sandwiches and bludgeoning innocents to death, the group got sleepy and decided to pause until the next day.

Day 2 start.
Night actions and last wills must be sent at least one hour before the next day starts.

---

The Sandwich Lord is disappointed by your lack of enthusiasm. He'd also like you to know that this is in no way Sen's first time hosting, and that you cannot play the meta card on Sen. If those with barely any participation continue, you'll get replaced during the first hours of day 2.

[Sen]

A sudden loud noise woke up the group and lured them towards the kitchen, where they found Calix's cat eating the remains coming out of the meat processor.
She was a Vanilla and left a last will:

This is a generic Last Will

I don't expect to die on Night 1 following my stunning performance, but there's always the slight chance that scum will consider me a potential threat regardless...

I believe that the rapid vote-hopping behaviour from MattZed and Toadette is worthy of pressure tomorrow.

DarknessB hammering with time to spare could suggest that a potential scum was on the line that he was wary of town switching over to. I will let the vote counts speak for themselves here.

If this eludes you, I can highly recommend the following: -vote Frog

If nothing else, it will generate discussion or LOUD NOISES. Because this is Frog we are talking about.

The survivors decided to use the remaining of her body to make more sandwiches, and then proceeded to start pointing fingers at each other.

3 votes to hammer.

Day 2 end

[Frog]

I missed End if Day day 1. Not happy.

Also, be active and vote shuffle FFS.

[Frog]

It's either GameFreak or MattZed, it seems.

Given what I recall, I'm not fond of either of them. I don't know if MattZed's weird reasoning is because he is frustrated town or scum looking for a lynch. However, Frog is on his train. I agree with Toadette that Frog is not giving me town vibes.

However, I'll reread the chat since I'm currently sheeping Toadette's opinion.

^this and your last will lacks basic reasoning with supporting evidence.

You were more harmful than helpful. RIP.

[Frog]

Because I'm mad that thread closed early

-vote DarknessB

[DarknessB]

Because I'm mad that thread closed early

-vote DarknessB

The thread closed very close to the end of the day. Many of us were there, but you were not, so that's more on you than us.

As Sen said, we need more activity on this thread if we're going to get anywhere.

[Frog]

The thread closed very close to the end of the day. Many of us were there, but you were not, so that's more on you than us.

As Sen said, we need more activity on this thread if we're going to get anywhere.

I was active all D1 with an alarm to come for end of thread.

We need alternative voting setups. E.g. Non hammer voting

I'm just pissed you closed the thread. It seemed like you did it as a reaction of pressure to vote, not because you believed GameFreak was guilty.

Honestly, I fault you a little less than the instigators.

What information was gained from the GameFreak lynch? O_o

[Toadette]

LOL

[Frog]

S-FM Inactivity

[Toadette]

Yeah, the state of this game is sad.

-vote Frog

I don't knwo why Frog town read me yesterday when I gave 0 effort, and I don't like it.

[deathworlds]

I'm interesting in pressuring darkness.

-vote DarknessB

[Toadette]

Because I'm mad that thread closed early

-vote DarknessB

This honestly really is a bad reason for Frog to be voting Darkness. Darkness made a pro town move by ending the day in a lynch instead of no lynch, which is always important in a vanilla game.

I was active all D1 with an alarm to come for end of thread.

We need alternative voting setups. E.g. Non hammer voting

I'm just pissed you closed the thread. It seemed like you did it as a reaction of pressure to vote, not because you believed GameFreak was guilty.

Honestly, I fault you a little less than the instigators.

What information was gained from the GameFreak lynch? O_o

Frog knows better than anyone that in a vanilla setup like this, a no lynch gives scum a free pass. Frog even agreed with this point earlier when I stated it. No lynching = no lynched scum. Lynching = maybe a mislynch, but we at least have a chance to take scum down. Always worth that chance, except in MLYLO.

Frog is not making any sense here from a town standpoint. Darkness has raised 0 suspicion from me for hammering.

[Toadette]

Frog, even though this game hasn't seen much activity, where's the analysis? Where's the isos? Is it pure laziness?

[Frog]

We are not no lynching

-vote Gamefreak

This coupled with your willingness to lynch at least 2 players demonstrated urgency to lynch and lack of connections.

Your activity was high and general solvey.

No brainer town.

[Frog]

Frog, even though this game hasn't seen much activity, where's the analysis? Where's the isos? Is it pure laziness?

Lazy. I'll ISO in a bit

[Toadette]

Lazy. I'll ISO in a bit

Aight, keeping my vote on you for now though.

[MattZed]

Not voting yet because this could be LYLO and 3 scum can just speedvote us to death.

-FOS Frog

Really, couldn't make it an hour-and-a-half before day ends? You know we needed to lynch, and you didn't think even two hours before lynch was a good time to show up?

[DarknessB]

Not voting yet because this could be LYLO and 3 scum can just speedvote us to death.

-FOS Frog

Really, couldn't make it an hour-and-a-half before day ends? You know we needed to lynch, and you didn't think even two hours before lynch was a good time to show up?

Matt is correct that quick votes are just about the worst thing we could do here with flashbacks to Charmander's Revenge in mind.

[DarknessB]

Lazy. I'll ISO in a bit

I'd like to see these ISOs as well. There just hasn't been that much posting so presumably not a big deal to put together?

[DarknessB]

This honestly really is a bad reason for Frog to be voting Darkness. Darkness made a pro town move by ending the day in a lynch instead of no lynch, which is always important in a vanilla game.



Frog knows better than anyone that in a vanilla setup like this, a no lynch gives scum a free pass. Frog even agreed with this point earlier when I stated it. No lynching = no lynched scum. Lynching = maybe a mislynch, but we at least have a chance to take scum down. Always worth that chance, except in MLYLO.

Frog is not making any sense here from a town standpoint. Darkness has raised 0 suspicion from me for hammering.

We were also running out of time and there was the risk of someone signing off or not being around to hammer. People should know when days are ending and try to be around (looks at Frog, GameFreak).

[DarknessB]

I'm interesting in pressuring darkness.

-vote DarknessB

Typically, you pressure with some sort of questions, DW. The vote and run strategy tends to be kind of dicey in my experience.

[DarknessB]

Yeah... we really need to do something in this game... Where is everyone?

[Spruance]

No idea what's going on lol

[deathworlds]

Typically, you pressure with some sort of questions, DW. The vote and run strategy tends to be kind of dicey in my experience.

DarknessB I would like to ask you

1. What roles do you believe the scum team has.

2. If you were scum, who would you target (following the list of roles you posted above) and why.

[Thornholt]

welll... I'm dead in koopolitics. So what's happening here... let's the couple posts there were for today XD

[Thornholt]

okay, from what I gathered.

Mattzed hasn't talked yet.
Spruance is lost.
DarknessB did a strong town move with the hammer.
Toadette claims she was town read from nothing... how am I to not interpret that as a town read?!?!
Frog is blasting DarknessB and couldn't show up 1.5h b4 day end... scum read
ME, just died in koopolitics and showed up here to check the few posts that were..... posted

[Sen]

There's been like 20 messages in over a day, and over 90% of those have been done by the same 3 players.
I'm not gonna bother adjusting my schedule to work on a game where half of the players don't give a fuck about it.

Orpz, feel free to archive this. I think I'm gonna follow all of the veterans and don't bother with anything but the main FM. I miss the playerbase of a couple years ago.

[Orpz]

Hostile Takeover incoming.

Hello friends, it's me! I have decided to keep this game running by replacing in as a host
Now this is totally unprecedented, but I have received all the information I need as a host.

After eating the Calix sandwiches, the mob was still hungry. It was tiring work to point fingers and kill each other. However this time the mob brought reason to the discussion.
"What if...our enemy isn't among us?"
"What if...it's the guy pretending to be dead on the bathroom floor the whole time, and the key is in the bathtub drain?"
Sen never saw it coming. He had left to make himself a sandwich, and turned around only to stare down the wrong end of a pitchfork.

Sen was lynched. His role was Host.

Resetting votes...


Players List:
Deathworlds
Toadette
MattZed
Spruance
Thornholt
Frog
DarknessB

Graveyard:
Gamefreak (Vanilla) -- Lynched on Day 1
Calix (Vanilla) -- Killed on Night 1


DAY 2 WILL END AT THIS TIME (UPDATED!!!!)

[MattZed]

Let's get this started!

-FOS on Frog again

Promising a lot of activity, but not delivering. Tries to direct players without contributing himself.

[DarknessB]

Nice -- thanks, Orpz! We really need to get this game going guys. We have a second chance here -- let's not disgrace ourselves and get forced into a canceled game.

[DarknessB]

Let's get this started!

-FOS on Frog again

Promising a lot of activity, but not delivering. Tries to direct players without contributing himself.

Yeah, we need to get players into the thread in the first place to start having conversations. We're both active players, MattZed -- what do you think the best approach is?

I see Spruance floating around too who is in this game.

[DarknessB]

Spruance, I see you around. What are you thinking? Saying literally anything is better than nothing at this point.

[Toadette]

-vote Frog

I see no reason to not lynch Frog.

[DarknessB]

As much fun as it is talking to myself, someone else is going to need to post for there to be a game...

[Toadette]

As much fun as it is talking to myself, someone else is going to need to post for there to be a game...

Naw, you're doing great by yourself.

[MattZed]

Yeah, we need to get players into the thread in the first place to start having conversations. We're both active players, MattZed -- what do you think the best approach is?

I see Spruance floating around too who is in this game.

4-5 town left, and this may be LYLO. If we don't have at least 2 people having received significant pressure today, game over.

MattZed's plan for participation:
Everyone please answer the following questions:
1. Who is your top scumread and why?
2. Who is your top townread and why?
3. Were you roleblocked last night?

[DarknessB]

Naw, you're doing great by yourself.

Thanks!

[Toadette]

Top scumread - Frog, for the reasons I stated
Top townread - Darkness actually, for being pro town on day 1
3 - no

[DarknessB]

Responses below:

4-5 town left, and this may be LYLO. If we don't have at least 2 people having received significant pressure today, game over.

MattZed's plan for participation:
Everyone please answer the following questions:
1. Who is your top scumread and why?
Probably Frog, given his earlier posts. I feel like this might be too easy though -- in a high lurking game like this wouldn't scum lurk?
If not Frog, something bothers me about how Thornholt has played so far. I know he replaced in late, but I feel like he's been around without posting. Could be the good old lurk to win.

2. Who is your top townread and why?
Toadette, because she has been to move the game forward and has taken sensible approaches thus far.

3. Were you roleblocked last night?
No.

[MattZed]

Toadette and Darkness are bold to publicly admit to buddying like that!

To meta Firebringer, he replaced out of here, but stayed in a game where he was scum. Gotta be cit.

[DarknessB]

Toadette and Darkness are bold to publicly admit to buddying like that!

To meta Firebringer, he replaced out of here, but stayed in a game where he was scum. Gotta be cit.

There are like three of us playing this game right now, lol. The rest of the game are empty slots -- there really weren't that many choices unless you want us to go back to Day 1 and try to analyze the 2 posts by deathworlds or Spruance.

[Toadette]

Toadette and Darkness are bold to publicly admit to buddying like that!

To meta Firebringer, he replaced out of here, but stayed in a game where he was scum. Gotta be cit.

Buddying actually isn't a "both of you are scum" tell - buddying is if I clear Darkness and I'm scum and he's not it's cause I'm trying to pocket him as my buddy.

[DarknessB]

Good, Thornholt is here -- please answer MattZed's questions. We need some particiaptiion or this game is probably going to get canceled again.