S-FM 135: Corrupt

[powerofdeath]

You just said you already claimed your role.

He claimed power role, he didnt claim anything.

[Helz]

Ok. So your line of logic is that its cool to claim D1 and then come out and say you had a successful night action but revealing the results of that night action makes you a target?

I hope that by the time have read that sentence you come out with that lead.

[Helz]

Gambits.. Yu r doing dem wrong.

To move on before we fuck the town- Any theory's on why I was attacked? All I really see reading over my D1 actions was that I tried to get the town focused and showed a little bit of effort early on.

I pushed Q to post and I called jaczac cult. Thats really the only interactions that stuck out.

[powerofdeath]

Reset votes please

ugh this host

[powerofdeath]

-vote Witness Protection

I want this guy claiming like now.

[Orpz]

Gambits.. Yu r doing dem wrong.

To move on before we fuck the town- Any theory's on why I was attacked? All I really see reading over my D1 actions was that I tried to get the town focused and showed a little bit of effort early on.

I pushed Q to post and I called jaczac cult. Thats really the only interactions that stuck out.

Jaczac's probably cult then.

-vote jaczac

[Nicole]

-vote deathworlds

Power in my vote.

[Vantas]

Hmm, so if TTL was A+H'd, that means that it stopped a conversion I believe. Since the kill got off successfully. That being said, we have to look and see why Mad Scientist wanted him on their side. If I were converting, I'd convert someone who uses logic, while I'd kill someone who was against me. (not considering WIFOM). So that means that Mad Scientist respects TTL as a player. To me this takes out the newer players/_Q2 as potential people for main scum (unless _Q2's doing a massive WIFOM trick here) as they don't really know who they think is best yet or in _Q2's case, don't respect him as the best of players. To me it seemed like TTL was leading the serious discussion of Day 1 so I see why scum would go after him in that respect.

Does SK/Soul Thief know the Mad Scientist's identity?

As for Linda, I'm thinking it's either Marriland bias as _Q2 pointed out (to be honest it probably is) or she made scum look bad at some point. Or maybe someone framed the Marriland people as scum by killing a Marri person like that? Or maybe they saw her sign up message about being Best Cit/MVP and all of that which could of scared them. I don't think we have enough kill analysis to narrow it down yet.

Tsk Cleb, I'm Vantas here, not SarasaKat.

I don't like how vague Deathworlds is being. If anything it seems like a Jester like situation (forget if that's even in this game) or a Cit trying to take a bullet for PR. That or really idiotic scum. I dunno about you, but I wouldn't go claiming night feedback and not say something day 2 unless I wasn't afraid to die.

[Helz]

Does SK/Soul Thief know the Mad Scientist's identity?

A corrupt person dosent know who mad scientist is but knows who the other corrupts are and there role

Also with 1 hidden neutral (Witch,Jester,Joker,Executioner) and a confirmed Joker on the map there can be no jester.

[Helz]

Just because I did not get to say it yesterday I agree with Orpz that RLVG is neither scum nor sheriff. I will not go into detail on that.

I agree that the SK could be a newer player. Rika's post #60 is very suggestive that he was not playing very hard/hiding early on. A player that knows his meta could read that as a gambit/legit move a lot better. I just wish we had a role flip to go with it.. This game is going to be tough with mechanics like that.

Something keeps itching at me. The Joker bounty on witness protection is very odd. I have thought back on the logic that could be behind such a move and I just feel like it was a totally random move. I want to say it was a total hip shot to get the night action off.
On that note Witness Protection should probably claim a role. After the host answers my question on the joker bounty it will be much easier to make a call on that situation. On that note-
Can the joker pick a new bounty as soon as his previous bounty target is dead?
This will be relevant in the line of "Lynch today vs Lynch tomorrow" conversation. Tomorrow makes the most sense but it also creates a potential to put the town in a bad situation. If our sheriff finds a scum tomorrow (Not Joker) then we will be forced to either lynch a confirmed scum or lynch a random player in order to prevent 2 kills the next night..

[Helz]

I said random player up there.. Totally not intended. It should have read "Lynch Witness Protection"

Also it would be smart for Witness Protection to make his claim tomorrow at the days start. If I know towns the town as a whole will drag their feet on that kind of lynch regardless of what is said so a lynch on Witness today is extremely unlikely.

[RLVG]

I almost forgot this FM was still going.

Can you post a list of who is dead and who is alive? List of players?

No PM received either, so Iunno

[Helz]

Nicole- Anything to add? Any feedback from last night? Why so quiet? I have you pegged as pretty intellectual but there is a lack of what you are capable of in your posts.

[Nicole]

I'm just a Citizen...

[Nicole]

Lets random a lurker. They make games boring.

[Orpz]

LYNCH AND KILL DEATHWORLDS

[Orpz]

EXECUTIONER WIN PLEASE

[Vantas]

Nicole- Anything to add? Any feedback from last night? Why so quiet? I have you pegged as pretty intellectual but there is a lack of what you are capable of in your posts.

I'm just a Citizen...

This rubs me the wrong way

[Helz]

I'm just a Citizen...

A corrupt citizen? Odd role claim.

EXECUTIONER WIN PLEASE

But.. There can not be an executioner because you are the Joker..

-vote Orpz

[Helz]

This rubs me the wrong way

I was just thinking that. That role claim from out of nowhere.. Then its followed up with a desire to random lynch..?

[Vantas]

Corrupt Cit at this point I think is impossible. Because there was a death and you were A+H'd. So you must of been healed from corruption. And I believe he can only corrupt once per night

[Helz]

Corrupt Cit at this point I think is impossible. Because there was a death and you were A+H'd. So you must of been healed from corruption. And I believe he can only corrupt once per night

Just read over it a little bit.

Mad scientist
Teamed up with corrupt.
Can choose which role the first corrupt is
only 1 corrupt killer and soul thief.
can "corrupt" up to 3 people.
A corrupt person dosent know who mad scientist is but knows who the other corrupts are and there role
soul thief is only role able to be chosen.
Turns Vigilante into corrupt killer.
Works on everyone except sheriff who will turn into insane sheriff
Citi,escort,jester,exe are only ones allowed to be converted to a corrupt.
Is immune to death.


Corrupt killer(Sk)
May kill 1 person each night.
kills roleblocks.

The Mad scientist could convert while the Corrupt killer(Sk) kills. I do not really think that Nicole is corrupted but it is possible. I do however read both their trolling in these posts as derailing productive conversation potentially to keep the town off balance. Add that to a lack of desire for scum hunting..

[Helz]

Maybe I am focused wayy to much on the joker right now. I need to read through the posts again. I just feel like there is something out here we can use and its really itching at me. Like I am just missing some obvious connection.

[Helz]

Alright. Read back through Orpz posts. They are pretty much all trolling in a hard "I do not give a fuck" way. It really screams "Joker" to me. His plays do not look like trolling so much as a player pushing for a lynch for Lawls. He derails the hell out of the town and has very little of any value to say. After reading through every players posts I think he is our best bet for scum.

[Nicole]

What do you expect when the Cult is at large? I don't want to be culted.

[Nicole]

Sheriff should lead.

[Helz]

Well we have 4 PR's. Sheriff, Vig, Doc and Journalist. 2 of the 4 can not be culted so the cults aim would be not to hit the Vig, Sheriff, or Joker. This means claiming a cit would attract attention.

My vote will stay on Orpz.

[Hypersniper]

I almost forgot this FM was still going.

Can you post a list of who is dead and who is alive? List of players?

No PM received either, so Iunno

if you did not receive feedback then nothing happened to you

and will do

[powerofdeath]

if you did not receive feedback then nothing happened to you

and will do

You didnt even answer other questions and you just confirmed that RLVG have no feedbacks. He could be lying about it >.

[RLVG]

So, nothing happened to me.

[Orpz]

Omg NO I'm Town Executioner

-vote deathworlds

Should someone tell Hypersniper? I think someone already did

[Witness Protection]

Earlier today I made a reasonably long post, but when I submitted it a message flashed up then down real quick. I think it said something about holding the post? This site bewilders me, how often do you guys NL?

Catching scum in less than 24 hours and convincing enough for a lynch is a feat.

I've never even heard of last wills. I probably should have read a few games before signing up for one, at least made sure I understood the mechanics. The bounty on me makes me think Town is better off with me dead. I have a PR, anyone want to say what they'd do with different PRs?

You need to kill me, but if I can help before I go, I'll do it.



I never imagined that Mafia could be so different, I know everyone wants my reads but it's gonna have to wait. Two of my kids are coming in from CO, it's quite a drive. For the next three days, maybe four, I won't be able to check the thread as often, so go ahead and lynch me. It's in Town's best interest.

[Witness Protection]

@ Orpz Did you ever explain post 124?

I'll reread the whole thread, it won't take long.

[Witness Protection]

Hmm, so if TTL was A+H'd, that means that it stopped a conversion I believe. Since the kill got off successfully. That being said, we have to look and see why Mad Scientist wanted him on their side. If I were converting, I'd convert someone who uses logic, while I'd kill someone who was against me. (not considering WIFOM). So that means that Mad Scientist respects TTL as a player. To me this takes out the newer players/_Q2 as potential people for main scum (unless _Q2's doing a massive WIFOM trick here) as they don't really know who they think is best yet or in _Q2's case, don't respect him as the best of players. To me it seemed like TTL was leading the serious discussion of Day 1 so I see why scum would go after him in that respect.

.

I may have in a round about way been responsible for stopping the conversion. How do I see PM's I've sent? I have my profile page open in another tab.

I forgot who I used my Power on.

[Orpz]

NO i DIDNT

[Witness Protection]

I think Vantas and Liepard are Citizens. Mostly gut.

Sorry for string of posts, but I'm unsure when I'll get back. I want my reads (guesses) out there before I eat rope.

If I remember who I used my PR on, you can be sure I'll post it ASAP. WHERE DO I LOOK AT PMs I SENT?

[Witness Protection]

HO! Know I know who it was!!!

I used it on someone, and I don't see any reason not to tell. Especially since I'm going to die and don't have time to figure out last wills. Besides I think it'll help today.

Anyone see any reason I shouldn't reveal my Power and what I did with it?

[deathworlds]

Current Scumlist yo

Scummy as fuck
Do not like
No read
Seems okay
Goodie Two shoes


Deathworlds Me and I know I am town.
Vantas Actively contributing to the town discussion.
RLVG Lurks, and does not contribute in a positive way. Even though he is a claimed sheriff (where's your feedback?)
_Q2 I really liked his post in the beginning of the day.
Orpz He rubs me the wrong way pushing a lynch on me, and his lack of contributing doesn't help.
Powerofdeath Contributes to town discussion.
Liepard Contributed in a citizen like way in first day
xRavenx Lurks. However made an attempt at role speculation
Nicole Her posts rub me the wrong way. Claimed citizen.
jaczac No read
Witness Protection Actively contributes to town discussion, claimed a power role.
ThinkLiveLife Actively contributes to town discussion.

[deathworlds]

-vote RLVG

[Helz]

HO! Know I know who it was!!!

I used it on someone, and I don't see any reason not to tell. Especially since I'm going to die and don't have time to figure out last wills. Besides I think it'll help today.

Anyone see any reason I shouldn't reveal my Power and what I did with it?

That you have said you are a PR is enough. I do not think you will be lynched today. There is a two day window to lynch you to fulfill the bounty and with the crazy night time I kind of expect today to be a bit lurky for quite a few players.

"Joker
May announce a bounty has been placed on X player. If X is not lynched or killed within 2 days the Joker may kill 2 other people and pick his target again. Wins if he survives and Town loses"

This suggests that you would be a better lynch for tomorrow. Also there is room for debate that the joker may end up targeting cult in his kills/keeping a PR alive is more important than the risk of 2 deaths.

[deathworlds]

On further analysis I think Orpz may be a citizen based off of past behavior.

Or scum making us think he is citizen.

I dunno.

[Helz]

Also go to the upper right and hit the "Settings" button. Your PM's can be viewed on the left.

I would also urge you to get that information in your last will (Submit it to the host in a PM at any time, The information will be revealed upon your death)

[jaczac]

Okay then, i wanna be more active in town now because finals are over (fuck yeah) and i can put aside more time for contribution. Sorry for not posting more this game.
@deathworlds reads: i like the nicole and RLVG suspicions but ill have to look at orpz's posts ninja'd- you changed your mind before i posted

[deathworlds]

Also watch out for buddying guys.

Only people that know who each other are, is the cult team.

[Helz]

I get a total scum read on Orpz. His plays have zero regard for the town in any way. He is troll claiming an impossible role and he jumps in when conversation gets going with an attempt to derail it. Im really kind of surprised more town are not on board with this train.

[deathworlds]

YO RESET THE VOTES

[Helz]

Also as a reminder I believe 2 or 3 of the votes on Deathworlds are carried over from the prior day from the vote count not being reset. He is not really at 5 votes.

[Helz]

YO RESET THE VOTES

Lol. How about that time stamp?

[deathworlds]

What's so cool bout it?

[Helz]

Great minds think alike. Thats all I r saying nigga.