Day 2

[FM Parker]

I was suggesting maybe i was claiming I have no feedback and nothing happened to me.

-vote FM Ryan

Claim something solid. This is a pressure vote.

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Would two bus drivers bussing a single target get one feedback or two? Suppose John Doe was bussed by a bus driver and a kidnapper, would he get a message he was bussed twice? Or only one bussed message?

[FM Monroe]

Speaking of that last bit.

Cohen, if you're working on the assumption that Colmyer is an above average FM player and that he is acting as he is because he was blackmailed night 2, wouldn't you think that he would have waited to complete his task until tomorrow? Or at least waited for a while to see if the new revelations of the day were unimportant enough not to take part in it before spamming gibberish?

[FM Ferengi]

Would two bus drivers bussing a single target get one feedback or two? Suppose John Doe was bussed by a bus driver and a kidnapper, would he get a message he was bussed twice? Or only one bussed message?

He would get this feedback:

You were bus driven.

You were bus driven.

[FM Monroe]

-vote FM Ryan

Claim something solid. This is a pressure vote.

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Would two bus drivers bussing a single target get one feedback or two? Suppose John Doe was bussed by a bus driver and a kidnapper, would he get a message he was bussed twice? Or only one bussed message?

Could you explain why you want him to claim?

I agree he has said very little of use so far, but what makes him special?

[FM Colmyer]

Don't cut me out.

[FM Colmyer]

Don't want to be this.

[FM Colmyer]

Save me.

[FM Parker]

Could you explain why you want him to claim?

I agree he has said very little of use so far, but what makes him special?

His posting on the first page. Then vanishing. He contributed a post of his thoughts, which was basically rehasing what everyone else had said. He has had scummy responses to FM Black. His responses to the Bible post on Day 1 show he's around but he's not giving actual theories or thoughts.

I want to know whether he's a PR or not definitively.

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Colymer, did Sarah "Cleanse" you?

[FM Ryan]

His posting on the first page. Then vanishing. He contributed a post of his thoughts, which was basically rehasing what everyone else had said. He has had scummy responses to FM Black. His responses to the Bible post on Day 1 show he's around but he's not giving actual theories or thoughts.

I want to know whether he's a PR or not definitively.

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Colymer, did Sarah "Cleanse" you?

If you look at the end of day 1 you will see why I was not very active at the beginning of the day. My first post was a check in post stating that I needed sleep. Ill even summarize. I WAS BUSY MOST OF DAY 1 WITH WORK AND SLEEP.

[FM Colmyer]

Tinker.

[FM Colmyer]

I want out.

[FM Colmyer]

I'm a dealer not a doctor.

[FM Colmyer]

It's just the beginning.

[FM Ryan]

Speaking of that last bit.

Cohen, if you're working on the assumption that Colmyer is an above average FM player and that he is acting as he is because he was blackmailed night 2, wouldn't you think that he would have waited to complete his task until tomorrow? Or at least waited for a while to see if the new revelations of the day were unimportant enough not to take part in it before spamming gibberish?

What if the Blackmail specifically stated, "You must spam gibberish tomorrow morning" or something to that effect

Also notice how certain messages have repeated themselves.

[FM Parker]

If you look at the end of day 1 you will see why I was not very active at the beginning of the day. My first post was a check in post stating that I needed sleep. Ill even summarize. I WAS BUSY MOST OF DAY 1 WITH WORK AND SLEEP.

Quite possibly yes. The circumstances make me suspect you enough to want a pressure vote until you confirm your status as a PR or non PR.

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Colmyer,

1) If I am Cate, are you Ian? Will you speak with the solider and tell him we had a wonderful time as you smell my knickers? If so, I can make the lead Blasted if you want.

2) Did you swallow a ring? At Tinker's direction?

@The rest, I swear there is a point to this. I think I know who Colmyer is. If you want me to reveal the code he's using, I can. I'm trying to figure out whether it is the mafia's direction or his.

[FM Parker]

I feel so dirty after my last post.

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What if the Blackmail specifically stated, "You must spam gibberish tomorrow morning" or something to that effect

Also notice how certain messages have repeated themselves.

The messages are not gibberish. I have found the literature from which he was quoting. The problem is the work doesn't identify a clear suspect and I can't tell if the mafia picked it or he did. But Colmyer is blackmailed.

[FM Parker]

Well Colmyer could have been drugged to believe he was blackmailed, but that would leave too many drugs. So I'm discounting that theory.

[FM Monroe]

What if the Blackmail specifically stated, "You must spam gibberish tomorrow morning" or something to that effect

Also notice how certain messages have repeated themselves.

I've seen that.

I don't think the blackmailer can apply such conditions to their actions. Else the whole 2 days to complete rule is moot.

Can the blackmailer specify that his task has to be fulfilled on the first/second day after the target gets blackmailed?

[FM Ferengi]

Can the blackmailer specify that his task has to be fulfilled on the first/second day after the target gets blackmailed?

No.

[FM Ryan]

I feel so dirty after my last post.

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The messages are not gibberish. I have found the literature from which he was quoting. The problem is the work doesn't identify a clear suspect and I can't tell if the mafia picked it or he did. But Colmyer is blackmailed.

I figured they weren't complete gibberish because the repetition of certain quotes. But I don't know those quotes so they are meaningless to me.

[FM Monroe]

I feel so dirty after my last post.

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The messages are not gibberish. I have found the literature from which he was quoting. The problem is the work doesn't identify a clear suspect and I can't tell if the mafia picked it or he did. But Colmyer is blackmailed.

Care to explain what you think he's saying then?

[FM Parker]

I figured they weren't complete gibberish because the repetition of certain quotes. But I don't know those quotes so they are meaningless to me.

If I get confirmation from Colmyer that it's ok to share how I figured out what he's quoting from, I will explain. If I explain, you will repeat my processes and possibly leave him exposed.

However, I can say this

1) Either Colmyer or the mafia is likely a European sophisticate. This isn't an American high school kid's blackmail.

[FM Colmyer]

When was the last time you sucked his cock?

[FM Cafarelli]

ryan, can we pls not spread the votes? or do you want to protect your mate...

Because you are more likely scum.

So I pushed the lynch yesterday and it turned out to be a mislynch. Cheap shot. The things McKelty said yesterday could be reasoned from savage GF, or even from mafia perspective as Colmyer suggested, and he completely unhelpful and trying to look like a jester.

You're giving feedback which could easily be a false explanation for not having investigation feedback from night 1. I started yesterday's pressure train based on behavior and lack of a better option. I'm voting you based on your claim. It's a poor comparison.

You accidentally "slipped" that you had evidence. And then you let people tell you you might as well claim.

But it sure helps your claim if he can confirm your result, doesn't it? Note I'm still working on the assumption that you were setting up a claim to establish yourself as a voice for the town.

What speaks in your favor here is that it might have been beneficial for a savage to keep tomorrow's new recruit hidden.

It wouldn't matter. Whether he lied or not, whether he lives or dies, nobody will know for certain if he got true or false poison feedback or if he just lied unless he is lynched and flips mafia. If he flips anything else, it's anyone's guess and it can't be used as direct evidence against you.

The mason clubber would not reveal and the kill could've come from another source. A gunsmith gun that ended up in mafia hands, an interceptor or spree killer visiting your target or some other possibilities I might be missing. The doctor would only suspect, not know for certain that you were savage. It's doubtful that a doctor would reveal for it. And as a savage you are expendable because the savage godfather can replace you. Chances are you'd already have served your purpose before you got caught on day 4 or 5 or something.

It can be done, but there's risk involved and if you were wrong you would get caught immediately. Role guessing in a game as large as this is difficult at this early stage.


Read the rolecard.

i didn't 'slip' i had evidence, at this point i was aware that i finally have to claim to get that scum lynch. so can we pls lynch that scum now or do you want it to be in vain?
and i will or will not be a voice of the town. fact is, if we dont lynch cohen or he doesn't flip scum (from your point of view since i'm sure) i will never be a voice. so you can be sure that i am either town or no voice. how about we just lynch cohen and then you decide wheather i'm some savage

anyway, you're wayyy to focused on finding savages. you never even tried to hunt some mafias. this is actually wrong to do. mafia is a bigger threat at the moment
that makes me think you're either some nooby mason enforcer who has no clubber or mafia. since your attempt to derail the lynch of your mafia teammate, it's pretty obvious

[FM Mason]

You'll never get a hug from anyone unless it's a special occasion.

[FM Colmyer]

I know.

[FM Parker]

When was the last time you sucked his cock?

Do you want me to reveal what book you are using? Answer with the correct follow up quote from these lines or sets of lines.


"Don't Give it I can see that?"

/// OR///

Most likely incinerated...

You gave them to someone else...

[FM Colmyer]

He bought me a box of chocolates then tried to strangle me.

[FM Cafarelli]

Do you want me to reveal what book you are using? Answer with the correct follow up quote from these lines or sets of lines.


"Don't Give it I can see that?"

/// OR///

Most likely incinerated...

You gave them to someone else...

afaik asking 'if ... post ...' isnt allowed

[FM Ryan]

ryan, can we pls not spread the votes? or do you want to protect your mate...

I am not voting anyone yet

[FM Parker]

Ok, I am having trouble getting through and communicating to Colmyer. I will keep how I think I know his role/future claim a secret. However, I will reveal he is using "Cleansed" by Sarah Kane. I googled one of the more unique quotes and that book came up.

@Cafarelli, I'm allowed to communicate with him. I'm not allowed to have him break his blackmail however. I'm allowed to put forth a question and have him answer. Switzerland has warned me that I'm pushing dangerously close to the line however. So I'm going to quit trying for now, especially because I'm not getting clear responses.

[FM Colmyer]

Fuck him.

[FM Colmyer]

I'm here to save you.

[FM Mason]

Can I have your ring?

[FM Colmyer]

My balls hurt.

[FM Mason]

Why are you so cynical?

[FM Buchwalter]

Ok, I am having trouble getting through and communicating to Colmyer. I will keep how I think I know his role/future claim a secret. However, I will reveal he is using "Cleansed" by Sarah Kane. I googled one of the more unique quotes and that book came up.

@Cafarelli, I'm allowed to communicate with him. I'm not allowed to have him break his blackmail however. I'm allowed to put forth a question and have him answer. Switzerland has warned me that I'm pushing dangerously close to the line however. So I'm going to quit trying for now, especially because I'm not getting clear responses.

The blackmailed target is not allowed to claim blackmailed, hint at it themselves, or hint that a player asking if they are blackmailed is on the right track. If all players are asked to claim blackmailed to find the blackmailed player that cannot claim blackmailed, the blackmailed player is requested to claim blackmailed so as to keep up the ruse of not being blackmailed. Blackmail will be lifted at the start of the night after you complete your task.

If I understand this correct. He is not even allowed to reply to you, because you are guessing that he is blackmailed, and he would be saying you are correct by replying.

So simply leave him alone before you get him in trouble.

[FM Parker]

If I understand this correct. He is not even allowed to reply to you, because you are guessing that he is blackmailed, and he would be saying you are correct by replying.

So simply leave him alone before you get him in trouble.

I already am leaving him alone. However, the fact I figured out the book he's using =/= certainty that he's blackmailed. He could be deliberately trolling using the book, hence the refusal to answer the questions. I haven't asked him if he was blackmailed, rather if he wanted me to reveal the book he was using and his possible role.

[FM Buchwalter]

Feedback Claims:

• Godfather
  
  1. killed Bishop
• Blackmailer
  
  1. blackmailed Colmyer
• Escort / Consort
  
  1. blocked Buchwalter
• Bus Driver / Kidnapper
  
  1. bussed Galloway
  2. bussed Lichtmann
  3. bussed Monroe
• Journalist / Corrupted Journalist
  
  1. interviewd unknown
  2. interviewd unknown
• Witch
  
  1. witched Biggs

Notable Posts:

• Buchwalter
  
  1. Day 1 version of this list. [Day 1 #535]
• Cafarelli
  
  1. Claims Investigator, but not the interviewed one. Claims feedback-block drugged night 1. [#251]
• Colmyer
  
  1. Is clearly blackmailed, any interaction with him could get him punished, please leave him be.
• Monroe
  
  1. Still create lots of chaos and confusion.
  2. Late bussed claim. [#288]

Lynch Trains:

• Cohen
  
  1. Poison appear to have been a drug, a lie, or was feedback-block drugged last night.

[FM Colmyer]

Don't trust me.

[FM Colmyer]

I can't promise you anything.

[FM Parker]

How did we get from all the sex day 1 to very little sex day 2? This is worrying.

[FM Lichtmann]

How did we get from all the sex day 1 to very little sex day 2? This is worrying.

How about you tell us the book. Not telling us serves no purpose and instead hinders us.

Also I know you are now. Your bad at hiding your COM.

[FM Hogeboom]

How about you tell us the book. Not telling us serves no purpose and instead hinders us.

Also I know you are now. Your bad at hiding your COM.

Pay attention, he said it is "Cleansed" from Sarah something.

[FM Parker]

@Lichtmann, I did at the top of the page. It's "Cleansed" by Sarah Kane.

[FM Buchwalter]

How about you tell us the book. Not telling us serves no purpose and instead hinders us.

Also I know you are now. Your bad at hiding your COM.

"Cleansed" by Sarah Kane

He already said it.

[FM Buchwalter]

How did we get from all the sex day 1 to very little sex day 2? This is worrying.

Most still be a lot of people that haven't reported in yet, give them a little time.

[FM Cafarelli]

I am not voting anyone yet

sry i meant parker. he voted you

Ok, I am having trouble getting through and communicating to Colmyer. I will keep how I think I know his role/future claim a secret. However, I will reveal he is using "Cleansed" by Sarah Kane. I googled one of the more unique quotes and that book came up.

@Cafarelli, I'm allowed to communicate with him. I'm not allowed to have him break his blackmail however. I'm allowed to put forth a question and have him answer. Switzerland has warned me that I'm pushing dangerously close to the line however. So I'm going to quit trying for now, especially because I'm not getting clear responses.

the warning of the host was unmistakable^^ also why in hell should he reveal in which invest pairing he is?
but if his task is "dont say anything apart from that book" or something then he is probably not allowed to hint at it with the number of words
and also i guess he is not allowed to use the quotes you asked, since he would pretty much confirm he is blackmailed.
you can ofc tell us where the quotes are from, if he's hinting at something with that it's his fault.
however if his task is: post 200 times, then he's probably allowed to hint at his invest pairing since he's also allowed to just tell it
host can correct me if im wrong
so pls dont get yourself killed or something^^

[FM Lichtmann]

She already said it.

Derp....

Anyway I do think he's blackmailed by the host coming on and stopping us from prying further. If he wasn't I have a feeling the host would of let us continue on it. But I am going to leave it at that because i don't want to get in trouble either.

[FM Colmyer]

I wouldn't die for you.