Day 1: First Blood

[FM Robin Hood]

...You do realize you're giving all of your tactics to the mafia, right? I think we need to write a secret code.

[FM King Arthur]

Truth be told I thinketh blacksmith equipment shouldst not be claimed. It hath no purpose to claim it until after the blacksmith hath died.

Roleblocks and jailed claims are fine.

[FM The Terminator]

Or to claim a matching Escort/Jailor/Smith claim they see. This will allow PRs to take their picks of covers.

So you're saying that no night action claim should be left "alone?"
So if we see someone give an escort preclaim, citizens should also preclaim that same thing?

[Inspector Cluseau]

Seeing as there is only 1 Jailor/Escort/Smith, they will know who is making things up. That should allow them to deduce who is Citizen while Sheriffs scum hunt.

[FM Master Chef]

why are you nignogs even voting? it'll be impossible to get 41 voters to vote

[FM The Terminator]

XD day is moving too fast to have an efficient conversation

[FM Agahnim]

Scum List:
Yoda
Rubber Ducky
Jack Sparrow


Suspected:
Jack Sparrow - Me - Reason: Possible Consig.

Evidence: began his post with an RP:

Then posted again with:

Dropping the RP and placing a vote with a half cocked BS fake logic post of town needing to lynch every day. the lower cased d in his first post makes be believe he is a Consig that is telling his scum buddies in code what his results reveled about whoever he targeted. Notice how he uses all lower case letters in his first post but in his second he uses proper sentence structure. Obvious Code is obvious.

-vote FM Jack Sparrow

Botched a bit. He has one upper case letter in his first post.
Still a scum slip imo.

[FM Master Chef]

I believe you typoed my name. Can you add the I in 'Chief'?

[FM Cookie Monster]

Oh and
To the Vigilante
I propose the plan to shoot the least contributive person/lurker every night
What do you guys think about this? For me, I think the Vigilante should always aim for lurkers first before shooting any not-really-confirmed-scum. Confirmed scum>Lurkers>Suspected scum. IMO. The jailor should more or less to the same.
Lurking Citizen=Deadweight=Wasting discussion time and town PR actions, especially that we have so few town PR.

[FM King Arthur]

I think that the future claiming + faking feedback sounds like a terrible idea. Should stick to truthful feedback only + hypo claiming the previous night.

Agreed. Truthful feedback claims be a virtue in these environs.

[FM The Terminator]

Jailor can't jail after a lynch.

[Inspector Cluseau]

Truth be told I thinketh blacksmith equipment shouldst not be claimed. It hath no purpose to claim it until after the blacksmith hath died.

Roleblocks and jailed claims are fine.

Claiming a Vest would make the Mafia more hesitant to attack that person. Thus, only PRs should claim it. Thus, only Citizens should claim it. Thus, vest claims are scum. My head hurts...

[FM Cookie Monster]

Scum List:
Yoda
Rubber Ducky
Jack Sparrow

Suspected:
Jack Sparrow - Me - Reason: Possible Consig.

Evidence: began his post with an RP:

Then posted again with:

Dropping the RP and placing a vote with a half cocked BS fake logic post of town needing to lynch every day. the lower cased d in his first post makes be believe he is a Consig that is telling his scum buddies in code what his results reveled about whoever he targeted. Notice how he uses all lower case letters in his first post but in his second he uses proper sentence structure. Obvious Code is obvious.

-vote FM Jack Sparrow

This is a very interesting read to me. we should observe closely for loosely hidden codes. That first post is incredibly interesting

[FM The Terminator]

Oh and
To the Vigilante
I propose the plan to shoot the least contributive person/lurker every night
What do you guys think about this? For me, I think the Vigilante should always aim for lurkers first before shooting any not-really-confirmed-scum. Confirmed scum>Lurkers>Suspected scum. IMO. The jailor should more or less to the same.
Lurking Citizen=Deadweight=Wasting discussion time and town PR actions, especially that we have so few town PR.

Correction: shooting priority should be given to anyone who is active during the 24 hours before night falls, but refuses to hypo. A lurker may be a PR who wants to stay hidden. Hell, my exams start Monday, and I'm sure many others' do as well.

[FM Cookie Monster]

FEEDBACK CLAIMS SHOULD BE REAL
ACTIONS CLAIMS SHOULD BE FAKED BUT AS REALISTIC AS POSSIBLE FOR CITIZENS

[FM Robin Hood]

Morning - Feedback
Afternoon - Previous claims
Evening - Hypo claims

Is this the format we'll be using?

[FM Cookie Monster]

Correction: shooting priority should be given to anyone who is active during the 24 hours before night falls, but refuses to hypo. A lurker may be a PR who wants to stay hidden. Hell, my exams start Monday, and I'm sure many others' do as well.

Mine finished last week
Does everybody agree with this plan yet? We need to find the loopholes and consider all the cons considering it's a risky plan

[FM Agahnim]

My feedback claims - Nothing happened to me.

[FM Cookie Monster]

Morning - Feedback
Afternoon - Previous claims
Evening - Hypo claims

Is this the format we'll be using?

Except we have different timezones, don't do it, it's hard considering some people might be absent in morning but present in afternoon and evening.
It should be just Feedback then Hypo

[FM Wile E Coyote]

I can already tell that this game is going to be one massive clusterfuck.
Hurray! \o/

[FM Robin Hood]

I can already tell that this game is going to be one massive clusterfuck.
Hurray! \o/

You said it.

[FM Agahnim]

I presented everyone with a clear read. Or at least a good discussion topic.

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Ok to simplify it, am I correct in saying this as what you want us to do frog?
1. Claim all Roleblocks/Witched/Healed+Attacked/Blacksmith ( should we be honest about this? )
2. Hypo claim all actions (Sheriff+Doctor+Vigi+Escort+Blacksmith+Jailor), and their respective feedbacks, if any. With town PR's being honest and Citizen trying their best to seem like a town PR

I think it's fine to omit your blacksmith materials received claims, because then it falls under the "I am any other town PR and I performed my action on ____" category. This is kind of a grey area tbh, because it would be good to be able to hold players with extra guns or night immunity accountable.

I think that the future claiming + faking feedback sounds like a terrible idea. Should stick to truthful feedback only + hypo claiming the previous night.

Faking feedback will only expose PR's, as the real (insert role here) will likely hypo his true action instead of sheeping along with feedback that was claimed. I think that if anybody fakes feedback to try to mislead the town, they should be shot/lynched without question. Town is at a huge numerical advantage here, so there is really no reason for us to be anything but truthful.

Truth be told I thinketh blacksmith equipment shouldst not be claimed. It hath no purpose to claim it until after the blacksmith hath died.

Roleblocks and jailed claims are fine.

The only problem with blacksmith equipment claims is that if people don't claim to have received it, then we can't hold people accountable for mis-shootings, etc. However if people decide that hypos for this one category would cause more harm than good, we can just eliminate all reference to it altogether.

[FM Dracula]

Sorry I claimed then. I was just trying to be helpful. I agree with the overall "claim honest feedback, post hypo night visits" strategy.

[FM Cookie Monster]

I'm going to be AFK for an hour or so. Gonna eat breakfast

[FM Michigan J Frog]

Except we have different timezones, don't do it, it's hard considering some people might be absent in morning but present in afternoon and evening.
It should be just Feedback then Hypo

If we do it in two cycles to split the 48 hour days: first 24 hours collecting feedback claims, last 24 hours to hypo, then everyone from all time zones should realistically be able to participate fully.

Also, I'm willing to go along with pressure on Jack Sparrow. Good catch, Aganhim. We should be aware that town has about a bajillion mislynches since there are so many citizens in this setup.

-vote FM Jack Sparrow

[FM Jack Sparrow]

This is a mass citizen game. No one claims anything until he really has found something or this whole game will be getting super complicated. Claiming any role you actually aren't is super bad. I feared that this setup would be too different for the sc2mafia rabble and apparently it is.

FM Agahnim go back to your s-fm's. Thank you.

[Inspector Cluseau]

-vote FM Jack Sparrow

[FM Robin Hood]

MASS CONFUSION!!

Whatever, I'll sit back and watch and make the occasional comment.

[Inspector Cluseau]

This is a mass citizen game. No one claims anything until he really has found something or this whole game will be getting super complicated. Claiming any role you actually aren't is super bad. I feared that this setup would be too different for the sc2mafia rabble and apparently it is.

FM Agahnim go back to your s-fm's. Thank you.

It's like you've never played an FM before...

[FM Robin Hood]

Oh, and take this for the road.

-vote FM Jack Sparrow

[FM The Terminator]

Except we have different timezones, don't do it, it's hard considering some people might be absent in morning but present in afternoon and evening.
It should be just Feedback then Hypo

Morning, afternoon, and evening being time of game Day, not real day. He means feedback at the start, then posthypo, then prehypo.

Honestly, I think the posthypo and prehypo should be done in the same post, once all relevant feedback has been received.

[FM Pinkie Pie]

@ FM The Terminator

Escort don't block SK. And there is no lookout. Remember that we have blacksmith who can give vests.

@ FM Michigan J Frog

Your plan is workable if we have a thinking town.

My current last will:

N1: No feedback. Night action: (will update later).

What about preemptive fake claiming? I certainly gives us more information to work with. Then again, maybe not. We do not want escort/doctor dead and lying to us whom they blocked/healed.

@ FM King Arthur

You are correct. Scum has the initial advantage. Depends if the town can trace back the actions. But it is better than nothing.

[FM Yoda]

This is a mass citizen game

-vote FM Jack Sparrow

[FM Jack Sparrow]

It's like you've never played an FM before...

It's more like you never played on a different mafia page where last wills aren't available and not every second fm player is a town power role.

[FM The Terminator]

-vote FM Jack Sparrow

for pressure. I do not want him lynched, because

Jailor cannot jail after a lynch!

Future edit: You don't need to make it THAT big...

[FM Jack Sparrow]

There is no pressure voting. There is only lynching. Lol.

[FM Agahnim]

@Jack Sparrow.

Its never a town tell to come back after more than one person joins on your train...2/3...pages...later...

[FM Jack Sparrow]

U have no idea what you are doing. As usual.

[Inspector Cluseau]

U have no idea what you are doing. As usual.

inb4 Jest Sparrow

[FM Yoda]

U have no idea what you are doing. As usual.

Youngling.

[FM King Arthur]

One thing that we shouldst consider when hypothetically claiming sheriff checks is that we require a good spread. There be a framer about! We also desire a good chance that both sheriffs check a different target.

This is true for all hypothetical claims, but for the sheriff it seems the most important.

[FM King Arthur]

inb4 Jest Sparrow

Nay. There be no jester in the game, for it were the fiftieth role only and there aren't that many participants.

[FM Yoda]

Nay. There be no jester in the game, for it were the fiftieth role only and there aren't that many participants.

Sparrow would know?

[Forum Mafia GM]

I believe you typoed my name. Can you add the I in 'Chief'?

I did not typo your name. You typoed your avatar:

[FM Jack Sparrow]

Why do you try to play mafiascum setups with the troll sc2mafia community?

[FM King Arthur]

I did not typo your name. You typoed your avatar:

What about Caesar? You knave!

[FM The Terminator]

Why do you try to play mafiascum setups with the troll sc2mafia community?

He reminds me of Tylwyth...

[FM Jack Sparrow]

He reminds me of Tylwyth...

Wow. I will remember that.

[FM Wolverine]

I did not typo your name. You typoed your avatar:

Lol. Perfect.