Role suggestion: Faceless Void

[Chane]

Role name: Faceless Void (subject to change)
Discription: you are a shady individual who after recent affairs has lost their old life and is looking for new light.

alignment: Neutral

Ability: swap your name/role/number/position with the person you target at any point during the day. this acts much like a disquiser except the person that got swapped by the Faceless Void loses his role (not his live) and becomes a Faceless void himself. the player that is now faceless void must swap themselves with somebody to gain a new role. this means the position of the swapper is always the same and the swapper is bound to a name number and position on the list instead of a player

Win Condition: swap yourself with anybody and acquire their role/name/placement and win condition. proceed to try to win with these new conditions. if the game ends before the Faceless Void has swapped anybody or you got swapped and are faceless void at the end of the game YOU LOSE.

Scenario:
(A) VOID swaps himself with player (B) sheriff
now player (A) has as far as all the other players know become (B)
(B) is now Faceless and he must swap himself with somebody else then his original self. (which means he knows position (B) is now the player who was the void at the beginnning
player (B) for the outside world know as player (A) swaps with (C) mafioso
because everything is swapped B can now play with the mafia without the mafia even noticing they got one of their members swapped. (C) now being Faceless swapps with (D) citi and the following happens:

Position not player:
(C) now has the info who all the mafia are, it is up to him to bring this info to town while (B) who is now maff knows who the sheriff is which helps the maff out.
(B) now has the info of who some town are maybe who are sk/arson/cult. he might have also gained trust with the town and if they manage to kill the citi quickly they can walk away with an advantage.

its started with:
(A) VOID
(B) sheriff
(C) mafi
(D) civ
it became:
(A) sheriff
(B) mafioso
(C) citi
(D) VOID

Notes: the Facelss void can not swap with the player that swapped him previously. this means in the above scenario player (B) can't become sheriff again by swapping with palyer (A) position (B) but can become sheriff if he would swapp with (E) sheriff.
Note2: there is always one day/night cycle between swapping
Note3: you can be swapped later in the game because the void later in the game does not know the identity as the first void does when swapping.

Host options:
one night between swappings on/off default: off
can swap during the night default off
if void deos not swap within 2 days he gets swapped randomly with somebody that is not his previous position. default: on

investigator message: "your target is in an identity crisis, this must be the Faceless Void."
if you are the void and invest accuses you while you are able to swap daytime... HAVE FUN.

the longer the void stays and swapps in the game the bigger the mindfuck grows.
has your mind exploded yet?

[Fatalis]

I like this idea

[Mugy]

Wouldn't this have problems with people giving away who's mafia?

[Chane]

Wouldn't this have problems with people giving away who's mafia?

if the person that swapped into the mafia tells the mafia during the night who is the void they can kill him. I will change it to always day.

nvm: read over it again. it is not in the Voids interest to tell who is maff because town can say he is lying (another exe strat) and he does not win this way. he could swap himself out for the godfather anyways to regain his place and he loses with town.

[Chane]

I'd of all the people who have seen but not replied yet love the opinions.

[maccabbe]

I like it but there are two problems.
1. Since void causes players to automatically lose all sides want to get rid of the void.
2. Old void knows who new void is day afterwords
3. If new void was mafia then he knows the roles of all the mafia and names of all the mafia except one

If the new void converts town it is in the new voids best interest to call out old void the next day and in everyone's interest to get rid of the void.
If the new void converts mafia the old void knows all the mafia roles and all but 1 of the mafia players. He can a) get back into mafia or b) join town, call out new new void next day, and call out all the mafia except 1. If any mafia chose b) the mafia would be quickly reduced to 1 player and town should win so why would any mafia chose a)?

It seems like unless void converts neutral the void role (not player) would be eliminated day 2 or 3. If a role is always eliminated early on that isn't wifom.

[Jim]

I've seen this before, except it was called the homeless, u go in someone else's home while they are somewhere else and lock them out.

[MoDTassadar]

I LOVE DIS ROLE!!!!!!!

[Jim]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...light=homeless
Chane even commented on it, its almost an identical role, not saying u stole it but it was definitely in your head when you wrote this.

[AppleyNO]

The difference between the Homeless and the Faceless Void is that the FV disguises as you.

[Jim]

The difference between the Homeless and the Faceless Void is that the FV disguises as you.

I'm not saying its exactly the same roll, but they are almost identical except for that small part.

[maccabbe]

Upon rereading homeless, homeless and void are very different. Homeless has a bunch of passive options that void doesn't. More importantly the homeless had a confusing main ability (original homeless did not change roles or sides and his target only temporarily became homeless) while void has a simple ability. Though I'd give credit to homeless for original idea it makes sense to create a new thread due to the difference.

[cookies4you]

This role... is scaring me already... Ugh.

[Chane]

Imho faceless void and homeles are 2 different enteties alltogrther.

I have read that tread again before I made this suggestion public but the idea was floating in my head for months. This roles mindfuckung levels are 10 times harder imho.

And its not that easy to call out a void because town might. Think your exe and it. Means you where void. And its not always sure that you took a town role.

Thanks for all the feedback.