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It goes to show: always commit plagiarism always. I stole my role.

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It goes to show: always commit plagiarism always. I stole my role.

Anyway I was optimal

Anyway I was optimal

[QUOTE=FM-Sixteen Squares;984087][s]Made our jobs a lot harder, too.[/s][/QUOTE]

* [i]You[/i] made our jobs a lot harder by having incredible reads and shooting us using gun; the circumstances did not make our jobs more difficult. That was phrased ambiguously. Obviously the circumstances were mostly in our favour all game.

Originally Posted by FM-Sixteen Squares

Made our jobs a lot harder, too.

* You made our jobs a lot harder by having incredible reads and shooting us using gun; the circumstances did not make our jobs more difficult. That was phrased ambiguously. Obviously the circumstances were mostly in our favour all game.

[QUOTE=FM-Amogus;984079]I put in so much work just to have it snatched away

Sigh[/QUOTE]

You and Dum did incredible work out there, and your job was made so much harder by the circumstances. [s]Made our jobs a lot harder, too.[/s] It's undeniable you two played well, and a shame you didn't get the win to show for it. Would've been deserved several times over if it'd happened. Can't win a mall.

Originally Posted by FM-Amogus

I put in so much work just to have it snatched away

Sigh

You and Dum did incredible work out there, and your job was made so much harder by the circumstances. Made our jobs a lot harder, too. It's undeniable you two played well, and a shame you didn't get the win to show for it. Would've been deserved several times over if it'd happened. Can't win a mall.

[QUOTE=FM-Mud;984066](you were not incredibility town imo)

also

i cant belive i got away with having my anonymous name

literally be

Dum (my real name)

written in reverse[/QUOTE]

I was the towniest player in the game WDYM my rolecard was literally so green? So green

Originally Posted by FM-Mud

(you were not incredibility town imo)

also

i cant belive i got away with having my anonymous name

literally be

Dum (my real name)

written in reverse

I was the towniest player in the game WDYM my rolecard was literally so green? So green

(And good game everyone else, even if I only played a bit of it! I had a ton of fun, both playing and spectating ^-^)

(And good game everyone else, even if I only played a bit of it! I had a ton of fun, both playing and spectating ^-^)

I was so UNJUSTLY and CRUELLY exploded despite being TOWNY TOWN FROM THE MASON CHAT. Misery!!!! (Also INCREDIBLE game Dum holy hell)

I was so UNJUSTLY and CRUELLY exploded despite being TOWNY TOWN FROM THE MASON CHAT. Misery!!!! (Also INCREDIBLE game Dum holy hell)

[QUOTE=FM-Just a Guy;977326]The latter.[/QUOTE]

Alright, thank you.

What I’ve seen from Just a Guy seems towny so far, and notably, they seem to be making a strong effort to move the game forward, which I like. There’s a lot of people just… sitting around and tossing out thoughts as they come, and they don’t feel idle like that. I also like how they don’t seem overly concerned with following a given “side” of an argument, townreading both me and pretty much everyone I talked with on Gargoyle Dog, which I like - shows a perspective concerned more with hunting scum than finding sides in an argument to take.

Originally Posted by FM-Just a Guy

The latter.

Alright, thank you.

What I’ve seen from Just a Guy seems towny so far, and notably, they seem to be making a strong effort to move the game forward, which I like. There’s a lot of people just… sitting around and tossing out thoughts as they come, and they don’t feel idle like that. I also like how they don’t seem overly concerned with following a given “side” of an argument, townreading both me and pretty much everyone I talked with on Gargoyle Dog, which I like - shows a perspective concerned more with hunting scum than finding sides in an argument to take.

[QUOTE=FM-Just a Guy;977318]It's d1 in a 40 player game it's okay to call wolfy things wolfy my friend lol.[/QUOTE]

I’m not quite sure what you’re saying here. Are you saying Diamond is just calling wolfy things wolfy, or that I’m not using the word “wolfy” to describe Diamond, and I should be?

Originally Posted by FM-Just a Guy

It's d1 in a 40 player game it's okay to call wolfy things wolfy my friend lol.

I’m not quite sure what you’re saying here. Are you saying Diamond is just calling wolfy things wolfy, or that I’m not using the word “wolfy” to describe Diamond, and I should be?

Diamond feels really… erratic. It feels like their reads are based on whatever the last thing they read was, and they don’t hold thoughts in their head in between posts. It makes everything they’re saying seem very surface-level.

Diamond feels really… erratic. It feels like their reads are based on whatever the last thing they read was, and they don’t hold thoughts in their head in between posts. It makes everything they’re saying seem very surface-level.

[QUOTE=FM-Sixteen Squares;977280]I’m not tunnelled, I’m just. Uh. Pushing for one person’s execution without re-evaluation and seeing all of their posts in a negative light. Reasonably and correctly style. Obviously[/QUOTE]

But actually I do genuinely think Gargoyle’s behaviour is the scummiest I’ve seen around and the weird initial pushback to my original case reinforces that belief. I have considered worlds in which they are town (which is where suspicion of Scar comes into play), I just… don’t think those are the likeliest, at the moment. Town don’t react like they did.

Originally Posted by FM-Sixteen Squares

I’m not tunnelled, I’m just. Uh. Pushing for one person’s execution without re-evaluation and seeing all of their posts in a negative light. Reasonably and correctly style. Obviously

But actually I do genuinely think Gargoyle’s behaviour is the scummiest I’ve seen around and the weird initial pushback to my original case reinforces that belief. I have considered worlds in which they are town (which is where suspicion of Scar comes into play), I just… don’t think those are the likeliest, at the moment. Town don’t react like they did.

[QUOTE=FM-Just a Guy;977272]Thats certain the kind of non generous appraisal of it that I'd expect from a tunneling townie.[/QUOTE]

I’m not tunnelled, I’m just. Uh. Pushing for one person’s execution without re-evaluation and seeing all of their posts in a negative light. Reasonably and correctly style. Obviously

Originally Posted by FM-Just a Guy

Thats certain the kind of non generous appraisal of it that I'd expect from a tunneling townie.

I’m not tunnelled, I’m just. Uh. Pushing for one person’s execution without re-evaluation and seeing all of their posts in a negative light. Reasonably and correctly style. Obviously

[QUOTE=FM-Diamond;977270]just guy gives me corner town vibes[/QUOTE]

What does this mean?

Originally Posted by FM-Diamond

just guy gives me corner town vibes

What does this mean?

[QUOTE=FM-Just a Guy;977259]This post.[/QUOTE]

I don’t really townread that stubbornness, honestly, especially in the context of someone coming into a game with set opinions on D1 play. I saw that frustration they expressed as something that could easily also come from believing they were mimicking their towngame well and still getting suspected for it.

Originally Posted by FM-Just a Guy

This post.

I don’t really townread that stubbornness, honestly, especially in the context of someone coming into a game with set opinions on D1 play. I saw that frustration they expressed as something that could easily also come from believing they were mimicking their towngame well and still getting suspected for it.

[QUOTE=FM-Just a Guy;977230]I'm in the thread right now and just dropped a readslist so feel free to look at it and ask me questions and like make ur own mind up.[/QUOTE]
I’m not a Catholic anymore, sorry. I don’t believe in you.

Could you elaborate on your townread on Gargoyle Dog? That’s the read on this list I most strongly disagree with, as evidenced by my vote, especially in the context of also townreading both me (who started the push on them) and Scar (who had a strange reaction to that initial push that I thought was wolfy in the case where Dog was town).

I’m also curious as to expanded thoughts on Moneky Allen Poe, as they’ve been quite active in thread while I’ve been around.

Originally Posted by FM-Just a Guy

I'm in the thread right now and just dropped a readslist so feel free to look at it and ask me questions and like make ur own mind up.

I’m not a Catholic anymore, sorry. I don’t believe in you.

Could you elaborate on your townread on Gargoyle Dog? That’s the read on this list I most strongly disagree with, as evidenced by my vote, especially in the context of also townreading both me (who started the push on them) and Scar (who had a strange reaction to that initial push that I thought was wolfy in the case where Dog was town).

I’m also curious as to expanded thoughts on Moneky Allen Poe, as they’ve been quite active in thread while I’ve been around.

I feel like I haven’t seen much from Just A Guy themselves, only people’s reactions to them… it’s like they’re an ancient historical figure who died long ago, who may or may not have even been real, that people have very strong reports and opinions on… very controversial figure, some people say that eventually they’ll come back, but I’m not sure that’s true…

(But actually could someone explain to me why this person is top wagon OK thanks bye)

I feel like I haven’t seen much from Just A Guy themselves, only people’s reactions to them… it’s like they’re an ancient historical figure who died long ago, who may or may not have even been real, that people have very strong reports and opinions on… very controversial figure, some people say that eventually they’ll come back, but I’m not sure that’s true…

(But actually could someone explain to me why this person is top wagon OK thanks bye)

[QUOTE=FM-Scar;977119]Nah, honestly i was just posting that to poke at FM-Sixteen Squares to see how he react to it. I see the animal alliance as a meme/roleplay flavor from 1 person, and not a threat at all, and yet this guy made a big deal out of it.[/QUOTE]
Oh, when I referred to the “animal alliance thing” in that post, I specifically meant the fact that Gargoyle Dog had attempted to outsource their vote to another member of it. I also think it’s a meme thing, which is why I found it odd that Dog had placed actual trust in the other members of it. I didn’t catch that your response was a poke, that… makes more sense.

Originally Posted by FM-Scar

Nah, honestly i was just posting that to poke at FM-Sixteen Squares to see how he react to it. I see the animal alliance as a meme/roleplay flavor from 1 person, and not a threat at all, and yet this guy made a big deal out of it.

Oh, when I referred to the “animal alliance thing” in that post, I specifically meant the fact that Gargoyle Dog had attempted to outsource their vote to another member of it. I also think it’s a meme thing, which is why I found it odd that Dog had placed actual trust in the other members of it. I didn’t catch that your response was a poke, that… makes more sense.

[QUOTE=FM-Gargoyle Dog;977048]How else is one supposed to behave in a 38 player game :laugh:[/QUOTE]

Hi, thank you for asking! You’re not supposed to have buddies. And you’re supposed to want to solve outside of the bare minimum to look townread at least a little. Hope this helps!

Originally Posted by FM-Gargoyle Dog

How else is one supposed to behave in a 38 player game

Hi, thank you for asking! You’re not supposed to have buddies. And you’re supposed to want to solve outside of the bare minimum to look townread at least a little. Hope this helps!

I don’t love Aerial’s reactions here, and I think the townread I gave them on first impression is fading.

I don’t love Aerial’s reactions here, and I think the townread I gave them on first impression is fading.

Oh, hold on, I’ve messed up my vote here. Going to correctly place my [vote]FM-Gargoyle Dog[/vote].

Oh, hold on, I’ve messed up my vote here. Going to correctly place my

-vote FM-Gargoyle Dog

.

[QUOTE=FM-Aerial Trumpet;977028]I know :(
darn Lumi's spouse >.<[/QUOTE]

I’m also cursed with a name that doesn’t fit my avatar… there are seventeen squares in this picture.

Originally Posted by FM-Aerial Trumpet

I know
darn Lumi's spouse >.<

I’m also cursed with a name that doesn’t fit my avatar… there are seventeen squares in this picture.

Going to echo what others have said about liking Smirk’s quick turnaround there, and I also want to note that yeah, if you haven’t already, please scan through Gargoyle Dog’s iso before evaluating my case. I don’t have the ability to quote it right now, but I think it largely speaks for itself in the scumcase on them, and my paraphrasing isn’t… optimal. Despite the fact that I, broadly, am.

Going to echo what others have said about liking Smirk’s quick turnaround there, and I also want to note that yeah, if you haven’t already, please scan through Gargoyle Dog’s iso before evaluating my case. I don’t have the ability to quote it right now, but I think it largely speaks for itself in the scumcase on them, and my paraphrasing isn’t… optimal. Despite the fact that I, broadly, am.

[QUOTE=FM-Calcifer;976998]So optimal, you are basically "baiting" and/or "reaction testing" because we both know the read you made is not as cohesive as you make it out to be since it's confbiasing a gamestate on a singular person while also assuming their alignment from what I believe are more so NAI factors.

Would that be a correct assessment? Cause if so, I want to see what you got so far?

I could understand not reading cause I don't want to either, but I want to know what you have gotten so far then since you state you like to get reactions to your read?[/QUOTE]

Yep, that’s my playstyle. D1 requires players make something out of nothing, reads-wise, and to do that, you need to act confident and put on a bit of a show, because that’s what makes scum react in distinctive ways. I don’t like calling my votes pure “reaction tests”, because that’s not really what they are… it kinda distanced myself form actually believing in the case, which isn’t true. I’m still pushing what I think are the scummiest players. I’m just exaggerating how [i]much[/i] I believe in these cases to get better information out of thread.

Originally Posted by FM-Calcifer

So optimal, you are basically "baiting" and/or "reaction testing" because we both know the read you made is not as cohesive as you make it out to be since it's confbiasing a gamestate on a singular person while also assuming their alignment from what I believe are more so NAI factors.

Would that be a correct assessment? Cause if so, I want to see what you got so far?

I could understand not reading cause I don't want to either, but I want to know what you have gotten so far then since you state you like to get reactions to your read?

Yep, that’s my playstyle. D1 requires players make something out of nothing, reads-wise, and to do that, you need to act confident and put on a bit of a show, because that’s what makes scum react in distinctive ways. I don’t like calling my votes pure “reaction tests”, because that’s not really what they are… it kinda distanced myself form actually believing in the case, which isn’t true. I’m still pushing what I think are the scummiest players. I’m just exaggerating how much I believe in these cases to get better information out of thread.

[QUOTE=FM-Calcifer;976996]So you did make it up as I kind of thought since the thought there did not connect for me.

But let me ask you this, if Dog is town, then your read is completely wrong in terms of the gamestate read. Like to me it does seem agenda-d in the way you are carrying out your scum read on Dog.

So you mention confidence is the only way to make good reads, so what are you reading so far onto the backlash on your slot for this given read you made?[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is completely wrong if Gargoyle Dog is town. That is why I placed it alongside a vote for Gargoyle Dog, so that I might find out if it is correct or not. It’s part of my case: “if this person is scum, here’s what the game looks like from there”.

I just sent that first post on the reaction by Scar to my case, but I also think that the reactions of other players are pretty informative; Smirk is someone I already had a bit of an eye on, but I think the way they immediately voted me specifically for trying to read patterns fo activity, something they think they themselves look scummy on, stands out. I can see explanations for it as either alignment, but it betrays a sort of… fear of being wolfread, a strong feeling of on-edgeness that I don’t love.

I think your reactions here have been fairly towny in focus, as you were both agreeing with scumreads against me [i]and[/i] calling out Scar for that odd post about me fearing the animal alliance - that seems like something that shows you’re not thinking of thread as like… “sides” or “potential allies” you don’t want to upset, which is a towny sort of perspective.

Originally Posted by FM-Calcifer

So you did make it up as I kind of thought since the thought there did not connect for me.

But let me ask you this, if Dog is town, then your read is completely wrong in terms of the gamestate read. Like to me it does seem agenda-d in the way you are carrying out your scum read on Dog.

So you mention confidence is the only way to make good reads, so what are you reading so far onto the backlash on your slot for this given read you made?

Yes, it is completely wrong if Gargoyle Dog is town. That is why I placed it alongside a vote for Gargoyle Dog, so that I might find out if it is correct or not. It’s part of my case: “if this person is scum, here’s what the game looks like from there”.

I just sent that first post on the reaction by Scar to my case, but I also think that the reactions of other players are pretty informative; Smirk is someone I already had a bit of an eye on, but I think the way they immediately voted me specifically for trying to read patterns fo activity, something they think they themselves look scummy on, stands out. I can see explanations for it as either alignment, but it betrays a sort of… fear of being wolfread, a strong feeling of on-edgeness that I don’t love.

I think your reactions here have been fairly towny in focus, as you were both agreeing with scumreads against me and calling out Scar for that odd post about me fearing the animal alliance - that seems like something that shows you’re not thinking of thread as like… “sides” or “potential allies” you don’t want to upset, which is a towny sort of perspective.

Looking at the way Scar reacted to my case there, I don’t think it seems particularly likely to be W/W with Gargoyle Dog, as it’s a strong, instinctive snap to a defence that wolves tend to be more cautious about. I think it could come from a wolf TMIing that the Animal Alliance I’ve heard so much about is largely town, or from a villager who thinks these animals are a powerful and productive force in thread. I don’t know whether that’s [i]true[/i], because, again, all I’ve seen from this alliance is Gargoyle Dog attempting to outsource their vote to someone else, which is not at all towny, but it could be something. I should probably read back through some of the other animals’ isos to see.

Looking at the way Scar reacted to my case there, I don’t think it seems particularly likely to be W/W with Gargoyle Dog, as it’s a strong, instinctive snap to a defence that wolves tend to be more cautious about. I think it could come from a wolf TMIing that the Animal Alliance I’ve heard so much about is largely town, or from a villager who thinks these animals are a powerful and productive force in thread. I don’t know whether that’s true, because, again, all I’ve seen from this alliance is Gargoyle Dog attempting to outsource their vote to someone else, which is not at all towny, but it could be something. I should probably read back through some of the other animals’ isos to see.

[QUOTE=FM-Calcifer;976988]WHere are you getting the bolded feeling from? Additionally, what if Dog is just busy with time because so am I. So is there a reason you feel their pop ins or lack thereof is alignment indicative and not because of other reasons?

Like to me this feels like an agenda'd push on Dog and placing reasons on him that are not necessary correlated.

And the thing is you just stated after you "just got here" and did not read back, yet feel "louder townies are currently pushing incorrect reads"

Like the time in thread to then make a strong stance like that does not match or make sense from my pov and feels like a perspective slip or a break in perspective.

How does Dog's singular ISO give you that "greater" gamestate read?[/QUOTE]
Hi, thank you for asking! I made it the fuck up. Looking at one player gives me the power to extrapolate what I think the broader game looks like from a world where they’re scum, and I can use that understanding to figure out how they’d fit into further, future cases and worlds. I’m not saying “this is for sure what happened and exists”, I’m saying that “given a world where Gargoyle is scum, here’s how the wolfteam looks, here’s what their thought process is”.

Confidence is the only way to make good reads. One needs confidence in order to present reads which beget proper reactions that can themselves be read into. Strong stances are the way I [i]get[/i] a better understanding of thread. That’s how mafia works.

Originally Posted by FM-Calcifer

WHere are you getting the bolded feeling from? Additionally, what if Dog is just busy with time because so am I. So is there a reason you feel their pop ins or lack thereof is alignment indicative and not because of other reasons?

Like to me this feels like an agenda'd push on Dog and placing reasons on him that are not necessary correlated.

And the thing is you just stated after you "just got here" and did not read back, yet feel "louder townies are currently pushing incorrect reads"

Like the time in thread to then make a strong stance like that does not match or make sense from my pov and feels like a perspective slip or a break in perspective.

How does Dog's singular ISO give you that "greater" gamestate read?

Hi, thank you for asking! I made it the fuck up. Looking at one player gives me the power to extrapolate what I think the broader game looks like from a world where they’re scum, and I can use that understanding to figure out how they’d fit into further, future cases and worlds. I’m not saying “this is for sure what happened and exists”, I’m saying that “given a world where Gargoyle is scum, here’s how the wolfteam looks, here’s what their thought process is”.

Confidence is the only way to make good reads. One needs confidence in order to present reads which beget proper reactions that can themselves be read into. Strong stances are the way I get a better understanding of thread. That’s how mafia works.

[QUOTE=FM-Innocent Smirk;976982]Oh, also, 16 squares: Reading "patterns of activity" sucks. It's annoying for people who have a life and post when they can (hello there, that's me), and perhaps even more importantly for game matters, it's super unreliable, because people's activity patterns are determined by a ton of out of game factors that have nothing to do with their alignment.

In fact, the more I read your post, the less I like it, and more the I feel like it's an attempt to throw shade at Gargoyle and the animals in general. :(

[vote]FM-Sixteen Squares[/vote][/QUOTE]

To be clear, when I talk about Gargoyle Dog’s patterns of activity, I don’t just mean when they are posting. I mean that they came in thread, initially tried to make a few reads for themselves, and then in later posts, they stepped back and played follow-the-leader, asking another player who they should vote, and I voting when challenged to come up with a read for themselves.

That sounds like someone who came in to the thread attempting to push things around and get townread, and once they felt comfortable that neither they nor any of their buddies were suspected, they moved back and started acting passive.

I can’t currently multiquote to provide examples, as I don’t know how to do that on mobile, but if you’ll look through Gargoyle Dog’s iso, it feels… really strongly scummy, and I don’t know how I feel about immediately getting backlash for pointing that out.

Originally Posted by FM-Innocent Smirk

Oh, also, 16 squares: Reading "patterns of activity" sucks. It's annoying for people who have a life and post when they can (hello there, that's me), and perhaps even more importantly for game matters, it's super unreliable, because people's activity patterns are determined by a ton of out of game factors that have nothing to do with their alignment.

In fact, the more I read your post, the less I like it, and more the I feel like it's an attempt to throw shade at Gargoyle and the animals in general.

-vote FM-Sixteen Squares

To be clear, when I talk about Gargoyle Dog’s patterns of activity, I don’t just mean when they are posting. I mean that they came in thread, initially tried to make a few reads for themselves, and then in later posts, they stepped back and played follow-the-leader, asking another player who they should vote, and I voting when challenged to come up with a read for themselves.

That sounds like someone who came in to the thread attempting to push things around and get townread, and once they felt comfortable that neither they nor any of their buddies were suspected, they moved back and started acting passive.

I can’t currently multiquote to provide examples, as I don’t know how to do that on mobile, but if you’ll look through Gargoyle Dog’s iso, it feels… really strongly scummy, and I don’t know how I feel about immediately getting backlash for pointing that out.

[QUOTE=FM-Calcifer;976979]I saw ur post count and then saw you make this post. Considering how active you have been in thread, what makes you get the impression it is "mafia dominated"?

It also seems to be a narrow-ish focus on how one person percieves the thread in which you are making a hollistic read off which does not sit right.

Feels... agenda-d.[/QUOTE]

I don’t think that mafia being happy with prevailing thread consensus means they’ve dominated on it. My read on Gargoyle Dog would be that they would be happy to sit back and act passive because louder townies are currently pushing incorrect reads.

Given I just got here, and I don’t want to read back through the entirety of thread because it would fry my brain, my best bet for making broader reads is going to be to focus on one iso at a time and build off there. I need a seed crystal to build the rest of my theories on, and Gargoyle Dog’s iso being as suspicious as it is makes for a good one.

Originally Posted by FM-Calcifer

I saw ur post count and then saw you make this post. Considering how active you have been in thread, what makes you get the impression it is "mafia dominated"?

It also seems to be a narrow-ish focus on how one person percieves the thread in which you are making a hollistic read off which does not sit right.

Feels... agenda-d.

I don’t think that mafia being happy with prevailing thread consensus means they’ve dominated on it. My read on Gargoyle Dog would be that they would be happy to sit back and act passive because louder townies are currently pushing incorrect reads.

Given I just got here, and I don’t want to read back through the entirety of thread because it would fry my brain, my best bet for making broader reads is going to be to focus on one iso at a time and build off there. I need a seed crystal to build the rest of my theories on, and Gargoyle Dog’s iso being as suspicious as it is makes for a good one.

[QUOTE=FM-Innocent Smirk;976976]Honestly, if wolves - or anyone at all, for that matter - have grasped the thread consensus, assuming it even exists at the moment, enough to be happy with it, hats off to them. The animal alliance is in fact a very nice way to get things started, to create interactions, etc., and I like that it has been happening.


I really like your avatar as well tbh, you and Lines are my favorites when it comes to avatar reading

you may now hang me for flattering you[/QUOTE]

I’ve only seen the animal alliance stuff as it pertains to Gargoyle Dog’s iso, as I haven’t read thread back. Could you explain to me more about what it’s entailed so far, since you seem to be familiar?

Originally Posted by FM-Innocent Smirk

Honestly, if wolves - or anyone at all, for that matter - have grasped the thread consensus, assuming it even exists at the moment, enough to be happy with it, hats off to them. The animal alliance is in fact a very nice way to get things started, to create interactions, etc., and I like that it has been happening.


I really like your avatar as well tbh, you and Lines are my favorites when it comes to avatar reading

you may now hang me for flattering you

I’ve only seen the animal alliance stuff as it pertains to Gargoyle Dog’s iso, as I haven’t read thread back. Could you explain to me more about what it’s entailed so far, since you seem to be familiar?

[QUOTE=FM-Scar;976973]Sounds like youre scared of this animal alliance and want to get rid of it[/QUOTE]

Could you elaborate more on this read? Why in particular do you think I would fear this animal alliance, and why would I go for Gargoyle Dog to get rid of it?

Originally Posted by FM-Scar

Sounds like youre scared of this animal alliance and want to get rid of it

Could you elaborate more on this read? Why in particular do you think I would fear this animal alliance, and why would I go for Gargoyle Dog to get rid of it?

Correction: Just A Guy wasn’t the main wagon until after Gargoyle Dog appeared to leave for the night, though they did pop in after that wagon had risen, and they seemed unconcerned with things at that point, so I think my read still stands. Mud is the one who was an early wagon, and that’d be another “unaligned from Gargoyle Dog” read.

Correction: Just A Guy wasn’t the main wagon until after Gargoyle Dog appeared to leave for the night, though they did pop in after that wagon had risen, and they seemed unconcerned with things at that point, so I think my read still stands. Mud is the one who was an early wagon, and that’d be another “unaligned from Gargoyle Dog” read.

[QUOTE=FM-Nike;976966]Ohh man cool pfp
Yeah ik its horrible[/QUOTE]

I am optimal. [s]Don’t try to flatter me, though, this post feels overly agreeable.[/s]

Originally Posted by FM-Nike

Ohh man cool pfp
Yeah ik its horrible

I am optimal. Don’t try to flatter me, though, this post feels overly agreeable.

Looking through all of this, I’m going to place a [vote]Gargoyle Dog[/vote], because the “animal alliance” stuff is just bizarre, and their pattern of activity reads like a wolf checking into thread as the game’s beginning, and, once they feel they’re comfortable with the direction things are going, popping out just as fast. This would probably mean wolves are comfortable with the prevailing thread consensus, so… looking at things, would probably mean Just A Guy isn’t W with him.

Looking through all of this, I’m going to place a

-vote Gargoyle Dog

, because the “animal alliance” stuff is just bizarre, and their pattern of activity reads like a wolf checking into thread as the game’s beginning, and, once they feel they’re comfortable with the direction things are going, popping out just as fast. This would probably mean wolves are comfortable with the prevailing thread consensus, so… looking at things, would probably mean Just A Guy isn’t W with him.

[QUOTE=FM-Gargoyle Dog;976118]People posting reads lists in the first few hours of a game with 40 people where half the people haven't appeared to even post yet....

God bless.[/QUOTE]

I accidentally hit the button to iso Gargoyle Dog instead of the person I’d intended, because I am on mobile and that constitutes a kind of hell, and I don’t like this place I’ve found myself in at all. They seem really… anti-solvy, batting down others’ reads and trying to sheep people without making any real contributions themselves. It feels [i]very[/i] wolfy to me.

Originally Posted by FM-Gargoyle Dog

People posting reads lists in the first few hours of a game with 40 people where half the people haven't appeared to even post yet....

God bless.

I accidentally hit the button to iso Gargoyle Dog instead of the person I’d intended, because I am on mobile and that constitutes a kind of hell, and I don’t like this place I’ve found myself in at all. They seem really… anti-solvy, batting down others’ reads and trying to sheep people without making any real contributions themselves. It feels very wolfy to me.

[QUOTE=FM-Aerial Trumpet;976962]yeah there's been no mechanical revelations afaik that indicate the existence of multiple scum factions

As for other mechanical revelations... uhh... there's a hot potato being passed around? That's about it[/QUOTE]

Hmm. In that case, I definitely want to side-eye Innocent Smirk, and I also think their flip could be pretty informative as to the general state of the game. I’ll look through their iso to see what’s going on over there.

Originally Posted by FM-Aerial Trumpet

yeah there's been no mechanical revelations afaik that indicate the existence of multiple scum factions

As for other mechanical revelations... uhh... there's a hot potato being passed around? That's about it

Hmm. In that case, I definitely want to side-eye Innocent Smirk, and I also think their flip could be pretty informative as to the general state of the game. I’ll look through their iso to see what’s going on over there.

[QUOTE=FM-Aerial Trumpet;976956]Last thing I'll say on this for now - if innocent smirk ever flips scum, I think it's probably multi ball. Because a lot of this post seems to be under the assumption it IS multiball or that mafia would have reason to believe it is.[/QUOTE]

I was wondering about that post. I had just assumed there were significant mechanical revelations I had missed, but you’re saying the statements about it being multiball were assumptions? Speaking of, have there been any significant mechanical revelations that I’ve missed?

Originally Posted by FM-Aerial Trumpet

Last thing I'll say on this for now - if innocent smirk ever flips scum, I think it's probably multi ball. Because a lot of this post seems to be under the assumption it IS multiball or that mafia would have reason to believe it is.

I was wondering about that post. I had just assumed there were significant mechanical revelations I had missed, but you’re saying the statements about it being multiball were assumptions? Speaking of, have there been any significant mechanical revelations that I’ve missed?

[QUOTE=FM-Diamond;976005]anyway
my goal is to find
3 village reads
3 wolf reads
1 Bullet Proof LynchBlocker disabling selfstrongman, 2-shot Target nymphomaniac obvious dishonest bisexual lover, bonus exclusive 3 shot flirting lawyer and 3 shot love doctor, lover revenge self motivated on neutral vigilante read

Before I die. I don’t feel like reading the thread so if anyone in the future or present can point me towards slots who they think will be useful for me to read to figure out if they are one the above roles, that would be really helpful[/QUOTE]
I looked back through Diamond’s iso out of curiosity as to their role, and I can’t say I’m a fan of this post. The way someone’s attention is drawn to different people to read is one of the best ways to distinguish wolves and villagers. Specifically asking for people to look back through strikes me as… weird, and kind of lazy and wolfy.

Diamond claims they’re going to die anyway, but they have… not elaborated on that at all, “for fear of anti-claim”, when… they’re going to die anyway. It’s odd to me.

Also, couching serious statements with jokes is a wolf instinct, and that list of roles to find feels like an example of that.

Originally Posted by FM-Diamond

anyway
my goal is to find
3 village reads
3 wolf reads
1 Bullet Proof LynchBlocker disabling selfstrongman, 2-shot Target nymphomaniac obvious dishonest bisexual lover, bonus exclusive 3 shot flirting lawyer and 3 shot love doctor, lover revenge self motivated on neutral vigilante read

Before I die. I don’t feel like reading the thread so if anyone in the future or present can point me towards slots who they think will be useful for me to read to figure out if they are one the above roles, that would be really helpful

I looked back through Diamond’s iso out of curiosity as to their role, and I can’t say I’m a fan of this post. The way someone’s attention is drawn to different people to read is one of the best ways to distinguish wolves and villagers. Specifically asking for people to look back through strikes me as… weird, and kind of lazy and wolfy.

Diamond claims they’re going to die anyway, but they have… not elaborated on that at all, “for fear of anti-claim”, when… they’re going to die anyway. It’s odd to me.

Also, couching serious statements with jokes is a wolf instinct, and that list of roles to find feels like an example of that.

Hmm. I’ve glanced back through thread, but forgive me for being a bit overwhelmed here. I’m not used to such big games. Off the top of my head, I think that Aerial Trumpet making an effort to stay on topic is towny, Lines’ corrections of other users is towny, and Monkey seems reasonable and confident, something I’m happy to follow along with for now, but would re-evaluate later depending on the game state. Floopy up there sounds like they’re trying to disguise their typical tone, which reads off to me.

Hmm. I’ve glanced back through thread, but forgive me for being a bit overwhelmed here. I’m not used to such big games. Off the top of my head, I think that Aerial Trumpet making an effort to stay on topic is towny, Lines’ corrections of other users is towny, and Monkey seems reasonable and confident, something I’m happy to follow along with for now, but would re-evaluate later depending on the game state. Floopy up there sounds like they’re trying to disguise their typical tone, which reads off to me.

I am optimal.

I am optimal.

Good morning, everybody. Is it at all worth attempting to read back?

Good morning, everybody. Is it at all worth attempting to read back?