S-FM 209: Surreptitious: The Game of Spies

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

-vote Yukitaka Oni

[Quick]

Wait. How come you're not voting?

Reads please.

He can't vote because his Group is chosen.

[RLVG]

-vote Yukitaka Oni

FAKE VOTE IS FAKE

[secondpassing]

I am banned from voting.

Reads then? I know you're cucked because it "doesnt matter" but make something up that I can think about.

[SuperJack]

-vote Yukitaka Oni

bold it. that helps

[JealousTL]

I'm not following DUCK, I am defending Yukitaka whilst pointing out that it is odd that DUCK is voting for Kovath. There could be multiple reasons DUCK could be following Kovath as neut/scum.
I'm saying my town read on Yukitaka-san > suspicion on DUCK

I see. I already explained why I think your town read on Yukitaka is bad; hopefully I will be proven right soon. At least this makes sense to me, somewhat. What did you think of DUCK defending Yukitaka from the start of the game, more or less, in conjunction with all of this?

[RLVG]

Reads then? I know you're cucked because it "doesnt matter" but make something up that I can think about.

I already shared my reads, so I'll do an abridged version.

1. Yuki
2. Kovath
3. Never Unlucky
4. Gingerape.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

bold it. that helps

Seriously? that obvious?

-vote Yukitaka Oni Ducksucks

[Calix]

Of course we do.

Gah, I don't know what to do. Maybe Kovath is better because people were ignoring him more than they were ignoring Yuki but if that's the case then why the sudden train on him? But then Yuki's being defended a lot by players and if he's town then one or more might be white-knighting (or scum defending scum) so his flip is more informative but then I think he's more likely to be town than Kovath but neither of them are even in the fucking thread.

Kovath

Shot in the dark here. I don't trust at all.

[Never Unlucky]

Gingerape has at least done something productive and has been responsive to their situation (albeit saying weird things).

Meanwhile Yuki refuses to contribute anything, doesn't answer questions, acts secretively, disparages others, and is just impossible to understand sometimes. Refusing to contribute anything + acting secretively are the main reasons I have for a scumlean; the rest are just bonus reasons that are more player-oriented than alignment-oriented.

Overall, I find Yuki to be the best choice out of the 5.


Out of the two I see Yuki more likely to be scum. Constant incobsistances and I can't see him being town. Dispute my love for him.


Out of the two? Why do you disregard me, RLVG and Kovath?


I can buy this logic, if not necessarily the scumreads. I do feel Gingerape is getting wagoned because of a single post and the fallout from it, mostly because one person found it suspicious. That seems very weak to me.

You're right, only "slips" don't happen often. Being nitpicky on 1 post seems exaggerated, but I think it's justified.

[SuperJack]

0-o

[Titus]

Wow this is a shit storm

[secondpassing]

I see. I already explained why I think your town read on Yukitaka is bad; hopefully I will be proven right soon. At least this makes sense to me, somewhat. What did you think of DUCK defending Yukitaka from the start of the game, more or less, in conjunction with all of this?

Not going to think about that right now. Do you think Kovath is scum? Do you think Never Unlucky is scum?

Will there be a time when I can figure out where you stand on things? Will you ever post a read wall? Will you let me know who you would like to push come day 2?

[SuperJack]

AH FA FACKS SAKE I DONT GOT A FUCKING FRICKIN GLUE OMG

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

AH FA FACKS SAKE I DONT GOT A FUCKING FRICKIN GLUE OMG

If you love me you will put your vote on kovath. Think of the children.

[Quick]

Because of all the replacements, would you consider a day extension? Quick

Day will be extended to 10 PM CST.

00:03:39:00

[RLVG]

THREE MINUTES ASSHOLES, the unvote and spread of trains is forcing a No Lynch.

Yukitaka Oni (3 [L-3]): (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/15734)
Titus (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634389), Klingoncelt (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634392), JealousTL (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634036)
Kovath (3 [L-3]): (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/4273)
secondpassing (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634421), PLZLEAVEDUCKK (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634412), Calix (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634464)

[Calix]

AH FA FACKS SAKE I DONT GOT A FUCKING FRICKIN GLUE OMG

I CAN RELATE SO HARD RIGHT NOW.

LIKE AM I ACCIDENTALLY DEFENDING SCUM? AM I PICKING THE WRONG TRAIN? AM I JUST WORRYING OVER TWO FUCKING TOWN PLAYERS?

WHO KNOWS

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

[unvoteduckduckgooseduckduckgoose[/unvote]

[RLVG]

Day will be extended to 10 PM CST.

Cool, that's a relief!
More players can check in.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

fkdkjfdsajkf

[Titus]

Ok, we got 4 hours, so I can be intelligent

unvote

[Klingoncelt]

I'll vote Yuki or Ginger.

[JealousTL]

Not going to think about that right now. Do you think Kovath is scum? Do you think Never Unlucky is scum?

Will there be a time when I can figure out where you stand on things? Will you ever post a read wall? Will you let me know who you would like to push come day 2?

I don't think Kovath is scum. I don't think NU is scum.

Yes - I have answered every one of your questions, you can see all the reads you've requested. Yes - most likely after N1. I would like to pressure DUCK, as much as this seems like it would be an unpleasant task.

[RLVG]

Ok, we got 4 hours, so I can be intelligent

unvote

Three and a half hours actually, but that's no excuse to be unintelligent up to this point.

[Calix]

Question. How do people feel about RLVG? He's the G3 player that's been talked about the least so if anyone strongly town-reads/ scum-reads him, I'd like to hear it now.

[secondpassing]

Day will be extended to 10 PM CST.

[Countdown Timers Cannot be Quoted from Other Posts]

THE HOST MASTER HAS SAVED US.
What happens in a tie vote for phase 2?

[Quick]

THE HOST MASTER HAS SAVED US.
What happens in a tie vote for phase 2?

Votes must be a majority to have effect.

[RLVG]

Question. How do people feel about RLVG? He's the G3 player that's been talked about the least so if anyone strongly town-reads/ scum-reads him, I'd like to hear it now.

From what I see it's agreed upon that I'm a townlean so that's probably a reason I'm not being talked about.

Limelight, action!

I'll be off in about half an hour though for sleep, so don't expect me to be around by end time.

[secondpassing]

That means I can actually vote my scum read. Never Unlucky
SuperJack, are you caught up btw?

[Titus]

Question. How do people feel about RLVG? He's the G3 player that's been talked about the least so if anyone strongly town-reads/ scum-reads him, I'd like to hear it now.

Strong tonal townread.

Rlvg jealous Calix all town

NU might be scum

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Question. How do people feel about RLVG? He's the G3 player that's been talked about the least so if anyone strongly town-reads/ scum-reads him, I'd like to hear it now.

He is likely town. His initial tunneling on me was NAI, but he was focusing on all of the wrong aspects IMO. He was trying to discredit the setup rather than someone like Ginger who was finding how I work into the setup. While this initially leaned scummy the way he has constantly attacked and joked against me, I believe he is town tunneling RLVG. I guess mafia can make trolly jokes, but I think he has been good about trying to find out my alignment, even if I do not agree with his conclusion or how he got to his conclusion.

I do not want to see a lynch on rlvg today, but feel free to discuss if you think I am wrong.

[JealousTL]

Question. How do people feel about RLVG? He's the G3 player that's been talked about the least so if anyone strongly town-reads/ scum-reads him, I'd like to hear it now.

I will need to look back on things in more detail, particularly the RLVG vs. NU vs. Kovath, but I recall my feeling from this discussion and from his stance on DUCK to be townlean. I would say that between the three of them, the most likely to be scum might be Kovath, but this is a weak read. My feeling that it was a TvTvT is stronger.

[Never Unlucky]

Everyone get your votes on Ginger, NOW.

You sound like me... This never works.

NU is mostly a tone/ meta read which I feel is different from his scum game.

Let me know what you conclude before I comment on the rest.
I’m curious. What are my scum and town metas like?

SJ’s theory – I don’t think it’s a valid one because RLVG and Kovath have stated that they don’t like this mechanic, I know I am town, Ginger claimed cit, and Yuki claimed a PR (?).

All I have time to post before EoD.

[JealousTL]

Also, I was kinda banking on this being the cut off point for D1 so I was pushing back some of the work I had to do; now I have to do it and miss the majority of the last three hours -___- I will try to come back a ~30 minutes prior to cut-off and catch up and see if I want to change my vote.

[Calix]

From what I see it's agreed upon that I'm a townlean so that's probably a reason I'm not being talked about.

Limelight, action!

I'll be off in about half an hour though for sleep, so don't expect me to be around by end time.

Yeah, I thought as much and I agree with said reads, but I find it odd that few people have discussed you compared to the other G3 players. I would have thought that scum would try throwing shade on a town read so either they don't want to risk the backlash from doing that or you're scum, but this line of thought assumes that most of the scum are active.

Also I'm paranoid because I can see town motivation in everyone but Kovath but even that doesn't make me feel convinced.

[Never Unlucky]

All I have time to post before EoD.

Nevermind, saw the update. Catching up.

[Titus]

Yeah, I thought as much and I agree with said reads, but I find it odd that few people have discussed you compared to the other G3 players. I would have thought that scum would try throwing shade on a town read so either they don't want to risk the backlash from doing that or you're scum, but this line of thought assumes that most of the scum are active.

Also I'm paranoid because I can see town motivation in everyone but Kovath but even that doesn't make me feel convinced.

Has NU called me out?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Glad we got an extension to twiddle our thumbs.

Anyway I will ISO Kovath + one of the others in a few minutes. ( probably NU)

In the meantime, since we were so close to day end does anyone find anything interesting about the votes, such as how we were about to sleep over lynching yuki?

Ill be back in a bit.

[Never Unlucky]

Calix, which do you prefer? You have my vote.

Thought Spruance had been replaced, zzz.

Klingon, will you do Yuki?

I can, yes.
Why the fuck are you asking someone who you haven’t stated you town-read who they are willing to vote?

Why do you agree with this (potential) buddying without having second thoughts?


I called out on Ginger being a Citizen who wants to take a shot during night and was confirmed right in my assumption.
Probably an anti-town thing of me to do, but I rather not see a gambit turn into a ML.

It would be anti-town if you were actively role-fishing; it isn't what you've done. You pointed out something that was ~obvious.


We'll see.

Let's all go to jealous wants then?

You seem to be fine with sheeping anyone as long as there's a lynch. Scummy af.
Not a fan of this slot content-wise nor action-wise.

I was voting Yuki at the beginning of this phase. I moved my vote because Titus thought she saw Gingerape scumslip, and I sheeped Titus.

So there.

Oh, and you're a Traitor, so...

You're dropping a bomb of an allegation on Duck, and are not backing it up with anything.

You admit to sheeping Titus, WHY ARE YOU SHEEPING TITUS? In my eyes Titus hasn't done anything worthy of being sheeped even less so after she says not being up-to-date.
I don't know what to make of this Titus-KC interaction. It's an unhealthy and scummy one, but it's too obvious to be one...

Great, he just used the word retarded which basically tells me never to listen to him. Fun.

If people thought like you, no one would be listening anyone.

[Klingoncelt]

You're dropping a bomb of an allegation on Duck, and are not backing it up with anything.

You admit to sheeping Titus, WHY ARE YOU SHEEPING TITUS? In my eyes Titus hasn't done anything worthy of being sheeped even less so after she says not being up-to-date.
I don't know what to make of this Titus-KC interaction. It's an unhealthy and scummy one, but it's too obvious to be one...


If people thought like you, no one would be listening anyone.

You need to ISO me, I've explained my read on Duck pretty clearly.

Are you his Scumbuddy?

[Titus]

Yeah, why are you just calling me out now Nu?

Figuring out who people vote is a good tool for later.

[Kovath]

Thank god, we have 2 more hours lol.

I still stand by NU as my scumread in the group, going to go over his recent posts again.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Random thoughts on Kovath. Feel free to comment/disagree/discuss. (testing the spoiler mechanic, might fuck it up)


Why were you originally planning to vote your own group?

Your one-game experience with Yuki was IM, wasn't it? How can you judge "day 2 player" off that?
What made you change your mind about RLVG?
Also, Calix is correct and I am currently out-of-town in a tournament. I will try my best but nowhere close to my normal activity levels. I'll be present for several-hour intervals around days.
Kovath opened with his typical not town, awkward questioning and bouncing. He is busy, however that does not change that his question was one that made him look like he was asking questions. Kovath usually asks more thought provoking and complex questions as town.
His second post is more of the same line of questioning. He knows for a fact my one game experience with Yuki was IM, and knows I either am lying or made an error. This seems very non-confrontational posing it as a question rather than trying to pressure me hard for an early inconsistency.

The setup has nothing at all about a scum N0 chat (unless it's a hidden mechanic in which case... fk me lol). So, this exchange strikes me as strange because Duck first suggests N0 coordination as what would probably be the case if he was mafia and had pre-planned this. Assuming that Duck has fully read through the setup, why wouldn't Duck immediately rule out that possibility for him as mafia in either his original post or after Calix brought it up? Or at least make some comment about it to reinforce his point that he wasn't lying in his claim?
Drunk Duck might be the explanation for this, however, and I don't think he was lying about being drunk lol. The primary no-lynch perspective otherwise I might see for this would be that he is approaching this game as town and thus brushes past it because then he would 'know' that he was town, but I am unsure whether he is able to so strongly believe it. All that said, there will probably be better lynches than Duck today.
Kind of like this post from Kovath. The whole “fk me lol”, is something he does when he does in regular relaxed conversations. If he was scum and out of town, and worrying about a tournament, HE WOULD NOT BE RELAXED. Scum can do this, but given his situation it feels town.

I'm not townreading him off his pushing because it was a push against the PL thing but for other reasons. See #309, basically little scum motivation in the push now that Duck's reversed his position + very easy for Mafia to have conformed with a "let's leave Duck alone" position like you and others have taken.
Duck is the unique outlier in regards to reads because of his claim. He's either Mafia and lying or literally a blank slate with no alignment. I'd rather read him tomorrow, and his not getting lynched reinforces that.
I like that you bring it up too, are you going to take it any further or just leave it hanging there?
Kovath seems to be working up to his town play after his weak opening. His posts have been progressively getting better. His reasoning for town reading RLVG is not one I agree with, but one I can understand.
Not wanting to read me until tomorrow is correct, but I wonder why he just brushes off the first part. If I am mafia and lying, or an unknown role, it is mechanically better to lynch me right away.

I want to know what changed from here to here, perhaps I missed something but I do want to hear it again anyways.
This is either Kovath being flat out lazy, or scum and trying to fake contribute again (Kovath post 472 for reference to the quotes).
Never Unlucky initially did not want to vote group 2 for reasons he mentioned, and then posts what changed his mind to thinking group 2 would be a viable target to lynch in. Kovath’s trying to make a connection and ask for a reasoning that is stated in the post. The post was also literally two lines, so how could he have missed the reasoning?

I do not like NU. His heavier posts read as very non-confrontational to me - I seriously doubt that he is finding it so difficult to scumread anyone and it really doesn't come off as natural; Town should have no compunctions or hesitations about making conclusions, yet I remember for instance that thing about town tone vs. IIoA -> null read, a large number of nulls.
His recent reads list on our group:
Not sure where the shift happened in regards to Gingerape. Part of it may just be due to lack of content (ex. the read on me) but I don't get a sense of conviction from this. Also, why was my townread reasoning unnatural and what does it mean, "something Unknown would say"?
He does a decent amount of busywork, asking players to give or explain their reads, though it feels a bit opportunistic to me (ex. response to RLVG comment about taking a small vacation). However, this was something I also read off him in IC when he was town so meh.
Basically despite his high volume of commenting and posting, a closer look at his comments and posts do not make me think he is really driving things or taking strong stances.
He dislikes NU for being non-confrontational yet I see the same in his interactions with me.


Hmm the rest of his posts seem to be him arguing with NU. I am not sure a busy Kovath as mafia spends the last several posts he has arguing with the second most town read player in Group 3.
I feel that Kovath opened the game terribly, but then stepped up his game, and finally regressed. This indicates to me that his trip is affecting his consistency and that his lack of play (the lazy quote for example) is due to time constraints and being preoccupied. When he has time he has made good posts, I am assuming these were at less hectic times in the day.
I believe it would have been an error to lynch Kovath, but not as egregious as lynching Yuki. If I am alive tomorrow I should be able to determine Kovath’s alignment for certainty.

[secondpassing]

I hope DUCKK learns to use the spoiler. You can do it!
As for your post on Kovath, I like it, in general. Are you going to voting Never Unlucky then I presume?

Host prolonging the day made everyone go away~
Come back~
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21017&d=1469917550

[Yukitaka Oni]

I'll wait for that explanation then.



POE is a valid way of playing the game. Not sure I entirely agree on the trust point. A solid point is a solid point regardless of someone's reputation and if a scummy player comes in with a string of logical, well-founded points against another player, said points would be influential regardless. However I get that people can ignore valid posts if they're tunneling or something. (SP can attest to this re: Politico)

Well usually I would have ISOed each player but I thought that the day period was 48 hours so I was going to do that tomorrow morning. And now I only have a few hours to skim-read each player and go off my initial impressions which I'm not confident in at all.

I'm also doing several things at once right now so I might just switch to Ginger because of the Traitor thing that keeps cropping up and then reread overnight so that I can get my shit together with reads. I'm a complete mess right now with those.
Kovath is just like me, answering people question not directly to him, basically just want to get attention for being contributed like me. But he give no information about his thought around everyone like me so I disagree with the vote. Seem like Kovath want to avoid conflict like me today

[Yukitaka Oni]

THREE MINUTES ASSHOLES, the unvote and spread of trains is forcing a No Lynch.

Yukitaka Oni (3 [L-3]): (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/15734)
Titus (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634389), Klingoncelt (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634392), JealousTL (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634036)
Kovath (3 [L-3]): (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/member.php/4273)
secondpassing (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634421), PLZLEAVEDUCKK (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634412), Calix (http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php?p=634464)
Chill bro, you really are on fire for a lynch train, not your style bro.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Apparently he softed TPR. Not sure if that's even true though.

While that isn't a factor in why I haven't voted for him, that's not BWCS in my eyes.
It's started with C and it end with N

[Kovath]

Define "as he does".

The town tone here cannot be unseen. Also being willing to be lynched instead of her good friend (How noble and cute ^^) is TOWN AF. Scum would feel the need to survive and push for someone else which looks more like Kovath's play.
Why is willing to be lynched instead of a friend town AF? This could definitely use more fleshing out, but as I'm reading it now it's being used mainly in order to flip the lynch onto me. A potential counterpoint is why he would do this instead of trying to push through an easier mislynch on Gingerape (as it was a pretty strong train at the time), but it could be part of leaving ML potential (i.e on me) in the future. It also could be confirmation bias running off of his earlier townpoints for Ginger for tone (weighed against the IIoA and such arg he was making), but either way this point needs more explanation because it's not compelling to me.

Also in what ways am I trying to survive and push for someone else? Gingerape's situation is explained by the fact that GA + Yuki were / are the main trains.


I think everyone is having this issue this game; there really isn't anyone standing out (Other than Duck), so Ginger not having strong S-R doesn't worry me yet. I'd be more worried if this behavior happened in later days.
...No?


Why the fuck are you asking someone who you haven’t stated you town-read who they are willing to vote?

Why do you agree with this (potential) buddying without having second thoughts?
I see a lot of these points / questions pressing issues or saying that something is scummy AF but where are the consequent scumreads? Instead there's the thing above about how "everyone is having difficulty with scumreads."


It would be anti-town if you were actively role-fishing; it isn't what you've done. You pointed out something that was ~obvious.
I don't understand the point of this comment and it feels like commenting for the sake of it. Could be town honestly stating this but could also be trying to establish some rapport with RLVG.


You seem to be fine with sheeping anyone as long as there's a lynch. Scummy af.
Not a fan of this slot content-wise nor action-wise.
Sheeping NAI, blah blah blah. You're not a fan of the slot, gonna take it anywhere further?

A lot of these questions are either probing or pressing things, I remember many comments about things being "scummy af" but there's just so much reluctance to actually make a scumread, the attempts I've seen like the reads list are so washy and nuanced that it's like, again, he's reluctantly reading someone as scum because there are no other options, not because he actually thinks so.

Also, wtf is with this idolatry of Calix lol

[Yukitaka Oni]

I hope DUCKK learns to use the spoiler. You can do it!
As for your post on Kovath, I like it, in general. Are you going to voting Never Unlucky then I presume?

Host prolonging the day made everyone go away~
Come back~
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21017&d=1469917550
It's funny isn't? Both vote on me can find no other reason than being null even there are other null. It's called (Hater) for a reason. Sheeping and shit-voting. I laugh when it's happen like that to me every game

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I hope DUCKK learns to use the spoiler. You can do it!
As for your post on Kovath, I like it, in general. Are you going to voting Never Unlucky then I presume?

Host prolonging the day made everyone go away~
Come back~
http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21017&d=1469917550

I had dinner, will ISO NU soon, so well see.

So it would seem.

I am a bit confused how there is so much panic, and then we get 3 hours and everyone gets magically complacent and bounces? In 1 hour it is going to be the exact same scenario. I will give some people the benefit of the doubt that they are rereading or thinking, but what the fuck.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Yeah, I'm here. Any question?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Yeah, I'm here. Any question?

If you die, do you want any specific players looked at tomorrow, or group in general?

[JealousTL]

Yeah, I'm here. Any question?
In response to:

http://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showthread.php/37572-S-FM-210-Surreptitious-The-Game-of-Spies?p=634192&viewfull=1#post634192


4. How can you say you will give no further information then complain about "lack of reading each other" OR "show up more evidence about player?"

Finally: Plan? Dignity? >_>

[Yukitaka Oni]

If you die, do you want any specific players looked at tomorrow, or group in general?
Rlvg, ginger.
Group 1. Calix must not be picked

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

... why is mattzed not replaced? I didn't even know he was in the game LOL.

[Titus]

Never Unlucky

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Also what the fuck is a alles pallete. Neither posted correct? Why did only 2 people get replaced.

[Yukitaka Oni]

... why is mattzed not replaced? I didn't even know he was in the game LOL.
Confirmed lurking?

[Kovath]

Never Unlucky
O...k...?

I think Alles is being replaced?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Never Unlucky

What convinced the change?

[Yukitaka Oni]

Oh, shiet i just notice DarknessB is a spectacular. v(O.o(v!

[secondpassing]

What convinced the change?
Sign up thread.

[Titus]

What convinced the change?

They only called me out after I highlighted it should be a problem to them and they missed why.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Rlvg, ginger.
Group 1. Calix must not be picked
But...that is.... (IF)

[Yukitaka Oni]

But...that is.... (IF)
Changing plan, I don't want DarknessB to see my play style.....

[JealousTL]

Changing plan, I don't want DarknessB to see my play style.....

You said to ask you questions, you don't answer. Why?

[Titus]

Time till deadline?

[Yukitaka Oni]

Time till deadline?
1 hour

[JealousTL]

Time till deadline?

1 hour.

[Quick]

Time till deadline?

OP

[Calix]

I just dozed off and woke up again. Why are the votes all spread-out?

[Yukitaka Oni]

I just dozed off and woke up again. Why are the votes all spread-out?
Someone change the vote after re-read the sign up page. And superjack is stop sheeping

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I just dozed off and woke up again. Why are the votes all spread-out?

Welcome back.

Thoughts on a NU lynch?

He has been receiving traction and I have yet to ISO him, but as of right now I do not really support a lynch on the other four players.

Personally I will only be voting between Kovath and NU today.

[secondpassing]

Someone change the vote after re-read the sign up page. And superjack is stop sheeping
I miss quoted D:

[Yukitaka Oni]

I miss quoted D:
v(o.o(< oh ok bro

[Calix]

Welcome back.

Thoughts on a NU lynch?

He has been receiving traction and I have yet to ISO him, but as of right now I do not really support a lynch on the other four players.

Personally I will only be voting between Kovath and NU today.

Have to be honest, I am pretty ambivalent because I have not had any chance to reread him and am very tired so not in the mood to do so and so I don't have any strong impression of my own to speak. Is there some kind of case against him because I haven't seen much of one save for what SP/ Kovath have been saying.

So maybe?

[Kovath]

Welcome back.

Thoughts on a NU lynch?

He has been receiving traction and I have yet to ISO him, but as of right now I do not really support a lynch on the other four players.

Personally I will only be voting between Kovath and NU today.
Is the ISO forthcoming, and what are your thoughts on my recent post on NU #799?

[secondpassing]

Welcome back.

Thoughts on a NU lynch?

He has been receiving traction and I have yet to ISO him, but as of right now I do not really support a lynch on the other four players.

Personally I will only be voting between Kovath and NU today.
I'm scared that PLZLEAVEDUCKK and Calix are trying to pocket me~

[Yukitaka Oni]

I'm scared that PLZLEAVEDUCKK and Calix are trying to pocket me~
Oh relax, at least they can't pick you today

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Is the ISO forthcoming, and what are your thoughts on my recent post on NU #799?

No, I have not been feeling well, and your ISO took the energy out of me. I expected my ISO on you to bury, instead of questioned my read on you and sort of flipped, sigh. I tried to read your posts arguing with NU, but my head is spinning too much to give you a non bullshit answer.

In regards to willing to be lynched over someone else I agree with you that is not town indicative in general. There are situations where mafia say "lynch me first, then them". In qt 3.14 if we imagine I was mafia instead of town, I would have said the same exact thing about firebringer (lynch me first, then lynch him). It has to do with the whole "mafia would never agree to die first, therefore they must be town" which is why they would do it. That being said, I do think it was not one of those cases, and that it was in fact a town move here.

I haven't really agreed with most of your points against NU. I have noticed the same idolatry of Calix that you have, and he seemed scummy earlier on with his interactions involving myself and Calix. You dislike his one line responses ( I think you compared it to cryptonic, which I like in that is what crypt did in cat and mouse, and he was a cat), but I feel the responses he gave here were good.

I probably did not properly answer a single thing you wanted LOL

[Yukitaka Oni]

Think about day 2: if mislynch a town day 1 then mafia will focus on killing this group 3 to gain control of the group 3 asap. Seriously.... But

[Yukitaka Oni]

Think about day 2: if mislynch a town day 1 then mafia will focus on killing this group 3 to gain control of the group 3 asap. Seriously.... But
Lynching the scum will make them join with other rest

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I'm scared that PLZLEAVEDUCKK and Calix are trying to pocket me~

Pocket you? Wouldn't I be pocketing yuki? That or you think I am with yuki, but since iirc he is your top town read, it would have to be me pocketing him.

I can't say what I want to say here because of reasons only you know secondpassing, but is it fair to say my TOWN READ on you has been good RECENTLY. I don't know how else I can word this to you.

cause ive got one hand in my pockettttttttt
and the other one holds a secondpassingggggggg
dudududdu

[Calix]

Okay I saw Kovath's #798 or whatever the number was for the case last page.

Him kissing my arse to the high heavens is not alignment-indicative as he does it outside of the game also, but the rest of the case comes across as reasoned although I'm not sure wherever I would follow it now.

Man, it's coming down to 40 minutes left and the lack of discussion continues despite us having three more fucking hours? I can't shake off the feeling that the scum just don't give a fuck because we're lynching among townies here and thus they're lurking it out or just aren't here.

zzz

[Titus]

Pocket you? Wouldn't I be pocketing yuki? That or you think I am with yuki, but since iirc he is your top town read, it would have to be me pocketing him.

I can't say what I want to say here because of reasons only you know secondpassing, but is it fair to say my TOWN READ on you has been good RECENTLY. I don't know how else I can word this to you.

cause ive got one hand in my pockettttttttt
and the other one holds a secondpassingggggggg
dudududdu

Is it ironic that I now like you?

[Titus]

Okay I saw Kovath's #798 or whatever the number was for the case last page.

Him kissing my arse to the high heavens is not alignment-indicative as he does it outside of the game also, but the rest of the case comes across as reasoned although I'm not sure wherever I would follow it now.

Man, it's coming down to 40 minutes left and the lack of discussion continues despite us having three more fucking hours? I can't shake off the feeling that the scum just don't give a fuck because we're lynching among townies here and thus they're lurking it out or just aren't here.

zzz

Modding mostly on my end. Not my sharpest performance.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Is it ironic that I now like you?

LOL. Oh look you are a clever one after all.

[Quick]

Shoulda had 72 hour days like I had originally. Shit.

[JealousTL]

Shoulda had 72 hour days like I had originally. Shit.
I think this is fine. 72 hours is so long.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Okay I saw Kovath's #798 or whatever the number was for the case last page.

Him kissing my arse to the high heavens is not alignment-indicative as he does it outside of the game also, but the rest of the case comes across as reasoned although I'm not sure wherever I would follow it now.

Man, it's coming down to 40 minutes left and the lack of discussion continues despite us having three more fucking hours? I can't shake off the feeling that the scum just don't give a fuck because we're lynching among townies here and thus they're lurking it out or just aren't here.

zzz
So the lurk is real....

[Yukitaka Oni]

Shoulda had 72 hour days like I had originally. Shit.
You ok host?

[Calix]

Titus and Duck sitting in a tree ~

That aside, what are we even doing? Pretty sure the only people who can be lynched right now would be Yuki/ NB unless a bunch of players are on invisible mode or some shit. And it's half three in the morning so I just want to sleep ASAP and don't give a shit.

[Yukitaka Oni]

So the lurk is real....
And majority is still refuse to lynch lurker???? What the hell is going on?!?!?!??

[Yukitaka Oni]

Titus and Duck sitting in a tree ~

That aside, what are we even doing? Pretty sure the only people who can be lynched right now would be Yuki/ NB unless a bunch of players are on invisible mode or some shit. And it's half three in the morning so I just want to sleep ASAP and don't give a shit.
Inbound last 5-10 minutes people start showing up and jump in the lynch train like nothing happened

[Yukitaka Oni]

Inbound last 5-10 minutes people start showing up and jump in the lynch train like nothing happened
Yeah yeah...people claim they are town and then bam! Jump in the lynch train.showing off all their devil mask, that's humanity for you...

[Kovath]

Okay I saw Kovath's #798 or whatever the number was for the case last page.

Him kissing my arse to the high heavens is not alignment-indicative as he does it outside of the game also, but the rest of the case comes across as reasoned although I'm not sure wherever I would follow it now.

Man, it's coming down to 40 minutes left and the lack of discussion continues despite us having three more fucking hours? I can't shake off the feeling that the scum just don't give a fuck because we're lynching among townies here and thus they're lurking it out or just aren't here.

zzz

I wasn't saying that the idolatry was AI, I was just like... wtf lol.

Considering everyone in the Group 3 has been pushed / voted except RLVG... do you really think we're lynching among townies?

[Yukitaka Oni]

I wasn't saying that the idolatry was AI, I was just like... wtf lol.

Considering everyone in the Group 3 has been pushed / voted except RLVG... do you really think we're lynching among townies?
Another reason why i doubt RLVG

[Calix]

I wasn't saying that the idolatry was AI, I was just like... wtf lol.

Considering everyone in the Group 3 has been pushed / voted except RLVG... do you really think we're lynching among townies?

Think I said this earlier but I can see town motivation behind pretty much everyone save for you. And even then I don't feel great about your lynch either for some reason I can't even explain properly so I have to be fucking up SOMEWHERE. I just don't know where.

[JealousTL]

Yeah yeah...people claim they are town and then bam! Jump in the lynch train.showing off all their devil mask, that's humanity for you...

Can you post some reads? Or something generally productive? I mean, you don't answer questions when you said you would answer questions, you narrate the game, post vague open-ended posts, etc.

I just don't see how town can play like this. Imagine if the entire game was people like you. What would that game look like?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I wasn't saying that the idolatry was AI, I was just like... wtf lol.

Considering everyone in the Group 3 has been pushed / voted except RLVG... do you really think we're lynching among townies?

Yes because I just did a mini read over all of NU's post and I now have town reads on everyone but yuki, and yuki was pushed in a way I will not be voting him.

R I P. I will likely be sheeping if I vote.

[JealousTL]

Yes because I just did a mini read over all of NU's post and I now have town reads on everyone but yuki, and yuki was pushed in a way I will not be voting him.

R I P. I will likely be sheeping if I vote.
What do you mean, "and yuki was pushed in a way I will not be voting him?"

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I have town reads on 4 of the 5 voters, and see nobody else trying to steer the lynch.

The scum is either:
1) afk (mattzed, pallet town)
2) Going for the hardcore "Lynch the voters on the miss lynch"
3) voting, and I am completely wrong on my reads.

[Kovath]

Who the fk is getting lynched then lol, is everyone just circlejerk townreading everyone?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

What do you mean, "and yuki was pushed in a way I will not be voting him?"

If you look at one of my earlier posts I mentioned how in previous games (charmander revenge 2.0, Mafia wars II) I scum read a player on day1, but as the train formed on them I flipped to hard defending them. I just have a good feeling for when things feel wrong and that a train is not justified. Whether it is the pace the train builds, who is jumping on it, etc. I do not believe this was a town generated train on yuki.

[Titus]

There's 5 on. All the names acceptable. Who to wagon?

[Kovath]

If I get voted, do not quick-hammer, I guarantee I will be around to the very last minute.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Who the fk is getting lynched then lol, is everyone just circlejerk townreading everyone?

Well unless you want me to try and build a train on you, but personally I rather sleep. (PSA: I realize I rage hard at the though of sleeping in other games, please do not use that point against me as I will be very irritated)

[JealousTL]

If you look at one of my earlier posts I mentioned how in previous games (charmander revenge 2.0, Mafia wars II) I scum read a player on day1, but as the train formed on them I flipped to hard defending them. I just have a good feeling for when things feel wrong and that a train is not justified. Whether it is the pace the train builds, who is jumping on it, etc. I do not believe this was a town generated train on yuki.

Would you say that you play more with your "gut" or "instinct" than concrete analysis? Not saying that this is necessarily bad thing or that you're wrong, just curious.

[JealousTL]

There's 5 on. All the names acceptable. Who to wagon?

I'm not stepping off Yuki.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Who the fk is getting lynched then lol, is everyone just circlejerk townreading everyone?
I would really pick RLVG, don't you see this group is being devided into 2 lynch option?
1. You/ never unlucky
2. Me/ gingerape
3. Nobody give a fk about RLVG, and people call themselves a town. Guess what's? You're all look scummy as fk to me (seriously that why i don't trust anyone Kovath, I'm having an issue trusting people in every game)

[Yukitaka Oni]

If I get voted, do not quick-hammer, I guarantee I will be around to the very last minute.
You don't die today, not het

[Calix]

I don't have a case against RLVG, I just find it weird that nobody in the entire game seems to suspect him at all and the scum are fine with having someone be 'cleared' from the POE in G3 without even trying to doubt-cast...?

It's scummy by associations, not scummy because of what he's actually done. Ehhh.

[Yukitaka Oni]

If you look at one of my earlier posts I mentioned how in previous games (charmander revenge 2.0, Mafia wars II) I scum read a player on day1, but as the train formed on them I flipped to hard defending them. I just have a good feeling for when things feel wrong and that a train is not justified. Whether it is the pace the train builds, who is jumping on it, etc. I do not believe this was a town generated train on yuki.
My train was made of hater. It's filled with salt

[JealousTL]

I would really pick RLVG, don't you see this group is being devided into 2 lynch option?
1. You/ never unlucky
2. Me/ gingerape
3. Nobody give a fk about RLVG, and people call themselves a town. Guess what's? You're all look scummy as fk to me (seriously that why i don't trust anyone Kovath, I'm having an issue trusting people in every game)

Can you construct a case on someone, please? "You're all look scummy as fk to me," no analysis tho.

[Yukitaka Oni]

I don't have a case against RLVG, I just find it weird that nobody in the entire game seems to suspect him at all and the scum are fine with having someone be 'cleared' from the POE in G3 without even trying to doubt-cast...?

It's scummy by associations, not scummy because of what he's actually done. Ehhh.
You try to defend him <_<?

[Titus]

yukitana oni

Let's lynch people

[Calix]

You try to defend him <_<?

Well no, that post was in and of itself a suspicion on RLVG.

Also I feel that I've been way more obvious as town and even I was pushed/ scum-read at points so why does RLVG get this weird pass?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Would you say that you play more with your "gut" or "instinct" than concrete analysis? Not saying that this is necessarily bad thing or that you're wrong, just curious.

I use my gut/instict, and then follow it up with analysis. If I am formaled in a final 3 in IRL mafia and you have 3 seconds to vote, and the vote ends with one voter, one non voter (the non voter is confimred town) I may use my gut to vote the confirmed town despite them being confirmed. (fear, didn't think the other person would vote.)

I don't think I worded that well. But yes my instict>my reads although I try to have the two back each other up.

[Titus]

Yukitaka Oni

Case sensitive

[Yukitaka Oni]

I have town reads on 4 of the 5 voters, and see nobody else trying to steer the lynch.

The scum is either:
1) afk (mattzed, pallet town)
2) Going for the hardcore "Lynch the voters on the miss lynch"
3) voting, and I am completely wrong on my reads.


yukitana oni

Let's lynch people
Hey look! We found our scum!

[Calix]

Yuki doesn't 'contribute' in the conventional sense as any alignment. That's not AI, he won't change that much even under threat of lynch and I think you're just scum-reading how he plays, honestly.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Well no, that post was in and of itself a suspicion on RLVG.

Also I feel that I've been way more obvious as town and even I was pushed/ scum-read at points so why does RLVG get this weird pass?
People pretend RLVG don't exist or...mafia pretend RLVG doesn't exist

[Titus]

Yuki doesn't 'contribute' in the conventional sense as any alignment. That's not AI, he won't change that much even under threat of lynch and I think you're just scum-reading how he plays, honestly.

8 minutes until deadline yo.

[Calix]

7 minutes...yeah this is going places alright...

[Yukitaka Oni]

Hey look! We found our scum!
Titus is on the number 2 option by you PLZDUCK. Good to know eh?

[Calix]

I don't think Yuki is scum though.

[JealousTL]

Yuki doesn't 'contribute' in the conventional sense as any alignment. That's not AI, he won't change that much even under threat of lynch and I think you're just scum-reading how he plays, honestly.

Yes... Because right now, how they play seems to be scummy from what I've gathered in other games. I don't see why they get a free pass to do nothing to contribute. How does one separate a scum Yuki from a non-scum Yuki if they don't say anything of substance?

[Kovath]

:FailFish:

What a great game.

[Yukitaka Oni]

Yuki doesn't 'contribute' in the conventional sense as any alignment. That's not AI, he won't change that much even under threat of lynch and I think you're just scum-reading how he plays, honestly.
Not day 1, hell no, absolutely not, even in death. I keep that promise with my plan. Not going to contribute anything. I refuse it. Only in day 2 after that

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Hello no lynch.

[JealousTL]

Not day 1, hell no, absolutely not, even in death. I keep that promise with my plan. Not going to contribute anything. I refuse it. Only in day 2 after that

You said you wouldn't contribute anything for 3 games.

[Calix]

Yes... Because right now, how they play seems to be scummy from what I've gathered in other games. I don't see why they get a free pass to do nothing to contribute. How does one separate a scum Yuki from a non-scum Yuki if they don't say anything of substance?

Because he's been trained and policy lynches have been attempted on him on our site before. That's how I know that he won't change how he plays - I tried to do the same thing for similar reasons. ("he won't play, doesn't answer questions" etc)

Yuki generally says a bunch of overtly scummy shit as scum. He's contradicted himself but that's not in the same ballpark so I'm not confident in that vote.

[JealousTL]

Hello no lynch.

Yukitaka at 3 and no one wants to vote, interesting.

[secondpassing]

Oh shoot 2 minutes

[Quick]

3 min.

[Yukitaka Oni]

:FailFish:

What a great game.
I know, game full of lurker and scum sheeping vote plus hater. Game made of salt...but....that's humanity for you...

[secondpassing]

Will no-lynch over Yuki, if you wish not to vote yuki
please vote for your favorite

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2


NO BANERINO FOR SPAMERINO

[Calix]

Fuck, never thought I'd be supporting a fucking NO LYNCH for Yuki of all people. What the fuck am I smoking, lmao

[JealousTL]

Because he's been trained and policy lynches have been attempted on him on our site before. That's how I know that he won't change how he plays - I tried to do the same thing for similar reasons. ("he won't play, doesn't answer questions" etc)

Yuki generally says a bunch of overtly scummy shit as scum. He's contradicted himself but that's not in the same ballpark so I'm not confident in that vote.

Trained? To do what, exactly?

[secondpassing]

Another reason why i doubt RLVG

I thought this too.

[Kovath]

Fuck, never thought I'd be supporting a fucking NO LYNCH for Yuki of all people. What the fuck am I smoking, lmao

3 am incense.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

3 am incense.

troll post since day end

go play chess loser

[Yukitaka Oni]

Fuck, never thought I'd be supporting a fucking NO LYNCH for Yuki of all people. What the fuck am I smoking, lmao
Cigar

[secondpassing]

Alright! Calix is on Kovath!

Kovath

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

pillow

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

sdfdadsf

[Yukitaka Oni]

TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2
TOWN INVESTIGATIVE SHOULD BE CHECKING IN GROUP 2


NO BANERINO FOR SPAMERINO
Will do

[secondpassing]

Pocket you? Wouldn't I be pocketing yuki? That or you think I am with yuki, but since iirc he is your top town read, it would have to be me pocketing him.

I can't say what I want to say here because of reasons only you know secondpassing, but is it fair to say my TOWN READ on you has been good RECENTLY. I don't know how else I can word this to you.

cause ive got one hand in my pockettttttttt
and the other one holds a secondpassingggggggg
dudududdu

RLVG, I finished my original sidequest

[Calix]

troll post since day end

go play chess loser

Well he's not wrong.

We should look among G2/ G3 tomorrow from the get-go. G1 is just going to have to scrape by given the lurking from most of the players there.

[Quick]

DO NOT POST!!!

[Titus]

Invest check g1 lurkers if possible

[Yukitaka Oni]

Because he's been trained and policy lynches have been attempted on him on our site before. That's how I know that he won't change how he plays - I tried to do the same thing for similar reasons. ("he won't play, doesn't answer questions" etc)

Yuki generally says a bunch of overtly scummy shit as scum. He's contradicted himself but that's not in the same ballpark so I'm not confident in that vote.
You already know i never contributed day 1

[Yukitaka Oni]

DO NOT POST!!!
Timeout?

[Quick]

NO ONE WAS LYNCHED!

SCUM HAVE TO KILL FROM GROUP 3!

[JealousTL]

Will do

Lol?

[Quick]

SOD 2:
00:23:27:00

[Quick]

NIGHT ACTIONS HAVE BEEN LOCKED IN!

DO NOT POST!

[Quick]

RLVG HAS BEEN NIGHT KILLED! THEY WERE:

CITIZEN
RLVG




GROUP 1

GROUP 2

GROUP 3



Titus
Shapelog
Unknown1234
Klingoncelt
Eggy


Calix
JealousTL
SuperJack
PLZLEAVEDUCKK
secondpassing

[TR]

Gingerape
Kovath
Yukitaka Oni
Never Unlucky




End of DP: I: Day 2:
01:00:00:00

End of DP: II: Day 2:
02:00:00:00

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Interesting that they went for the most likely person to be bodyguarded, and who was against me the most.

group 2

DUDUDUDDU IM ABOUT TO LEARN MY ROLE/ALIGNMENT WISH ME LUCK BOYS.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Fuck.

[JealousTL]

Sorry, RLVG. GG

Kinda surprised he got lynched, as he was one of the more townread (or ignored) people in G3. What does everyone make of this push on G3? Subject to WIFOM, but that tells me there are probably 2 scum in G3?

Also, Yuki, why did you say "Will do," when someone said that "investigative roles" should look into specific groups?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Sorry, RLVG. GG

Kinda surprised he got lynched, as he was one of the more townread (or ignored) people in G3. What does everyone make of this push on G3? Subject to WIFOM, but that tells me there are probably 2 scum in G3?

Also, Yuki, why did you say "Will do," when someone said that "investigative roles" should look into specific groups?

There are 2 scum in group 2.
I may have been wrong on yuki softing a PR, and he may be a citizen taking a role bullet? That or reverse meta.

[JealousTL]

There are 2 scum in group 2.
I may have been wrong on yuki softing a PR, and he may be a citizen taking a role bullet? That or reverse meta.

1. Why?

2. That was my assumption but I wanted Yuki to say it (even though Yuki seems intent on not saying anything). It seemed too obvious of a thing to say, too. I guess it forces scum to WIFOM, unless Yuki is scum?

[Klingoncelt]

I knew RLGV was Town.

Now - who was pushing for his lynch?

I'll be back when the Olympics are done.

[Yukitaka Oni]

There are 2 scum in group 2.
I may have been wrong on yuki softing a PR, and he may be a citizen taking a role bullet? That or reverse meta.
Why you reveal my plan v)o.o)>?!?!? I hate you ^(o.o(^!

[Kovath]

Interesting that they went for the most likely person to be bodyguarded, and who was against me the most.

group 2

DUDUDUDDU IM ABOUT TO LEARN MY ROLE/ALIGNMENT WISH ME LUCK BOYS.


Fuck.

?????????????????

[Yukitaka Oni]

I knew RLGV was Town.

Now - who was pushing for his lynch?

I'll be back when the Olympics are done.
What's so funny about football and olympics?

[Yukitaka Oni]

And RLVG no last will, lol?

[Yukitaka Oni]

And RLVG no last will, lol?
Or prehaps all last will will be published once the game finishes. But......that also mean last will is basically not available in this game

[Quick]

And RLVG no last will, lol?

he left no last will.

Last wills must be in your QuickTopic.

[Klingoncelt]

Sorry, RLVG. GG

Kinda surprised he got lynched, as he was one of the more townread (or ignored) people in G3. What does everyone make of this push on G3? Subject to WIFOM, but that tells me there are probably 2 scum in G3?



RLVG was NK'd, not lynched.

How does his being killed suggest that there are 2 Scums in Group 3?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

1. Why?

2. That was my assumption but I wanted Yuki to say it (even though Yuki seems intent on not saying anything). It seemed too obvious of a thing to say, too. I guess it forces scum to WIFOM, unless Yuki is scum?

So the thing is I just drank 2 red bulls preparing for me to flip mafia today. I originally thought I was town based on the odds and the mafia were randomly organized. Then based on several people's posts I realized my mechanic makes sense If I am put in the 2 scum group. If its me, a mafia, and a traitor three of us five in the group show up as mafia. If I am miss lynched we do not lose the game unless its two regular mafia in the group. 2 mafia in group 2 is the only way I can see my mechanic making sense in the game. If you believe in two mafia in a different group then you should be going against me today as it would have to mean you do not believe me unless you have another crazy theory (no superjack no, cute for trying, but no.)

Sorry for taking Yuki's question, very bad habit I have.

Towards EOD I was starting to get the feeling I might actually be mafia. The way Never Unlucky was interacting with me the whole game and when I pinged out his posts where he phrased it "is THE traitor" instead of "is A traitor" made me think that he was my teammate. I tried to ISO Kovath in order to get people to kill him, but I actually flipped my read on him, and not being sure of my alignment felt it was not a correct lynch to pass. If anyone knows me from previous games, you would know that I go extremely rage mode over the thought of a day one no lynch, however because I strongly was against lynching the other 4 players for reasons mentioned, I felt that following a NU lynch would be potentially lynching my own teammate.

Now that I KNOW I am town I wonder if Never Unlucky is still mafia, and looking for a traitor that is likely in group 2. If you were all in my pov we would lynch never unlucky today, 4 people would split groups, giving us more lynches. Then we would just go to lynch town on group 2. Jealous/calix/secondpassing are all extremely town this game and superjack had some weird theory that tried to justify my claim. It makes me think superjack is the real mafia in teh group and thought I was the traitor. This means that superjack would be mafia, and one between calix/secondpassing/jealous, which I would have no room where to begin with.

Now I realize we are not living in Duck's POV, and I came prepared to battle as mafia. I am not sure I want to deal with arguing a bunch of TvT's and some TvS's and waste a day on my miss lynch that results in town gaining no information. If town is planning on spending a large portion of today focusing on me I would ask that we just agree that I am the lynch early on and just ignore what my alignment could or could not be. I will accept being the lynch today, but I want to be able to use today to fix my read list so that town can go on to win the game. The mechanic is beyond retarded, and the only way I will be able to convince some of you that it is real is by my flip. In all of my FM games I HAVE PERFECT TOWN CIRCLES. Absolutely perfect town circles from day 2 onwards, (only non town to ever be in my town circle from mid-end of day2 onwards is Mattzed qt.314).

I feel I am close to solving this game, but I need more time to reevaluate on group 2 because I am wrong on probably one of them, and group 1 has been useless ( the no posting in particular). Also, before we get the "duck is saying to lynch him, so we don't lynch him", think what you want, but the only thing I hate more than being lynched is people not listening, and losing.

Also when I started typing I saw kovath so hope hes still here Kovath hi.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

?????????????????

Dont question me. I specifically asked you how your chess match went, and you did not answer me. I now ask the questions.

[JealousTL]

Why you reveal my plan v)o.o)>?!?!? I hate you ^(o.o(^!

The plan was so blatant it may as well have not existed. The only interesting part would be if you truly were an investigator and went for such an obvious way of presenting it in order to have scum think you couldn't possibly be that dumb, but then is that a risk worth taking?

[Klingoncelt]

Anyone have any worthwhile investigative results?

[Klingoncelt]

What's so funny about football and olympics?

I give up, what?

I take the Olympics pretty seriously.

Not a huge football fan anymore. I don't like soccer, either.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Anyone have any worthwhile investigative results?

This. Red or green check should be outed today. Although if they have a green check, maybe they want to hold off if they are in a scummy position that wont be night killed because the fact RLVG died should indicate there was no bodyguard in the game.

I also want to say dont be a donkey and just flat out claim, wait for interactions or you are wasting information potential.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I give up, what?

I take the Olympics pretty seriously.

Not a huge football fan anymore. I don't like soccer, either.

What if I told you my neighbor is the greatest Olympian of all time? Things getting pretty srs up in here.

[Kovath]

Towards EOD I was starting to get the feeling I might actually be mafia. The way Never Unlucky was interacting with me the whole game and when I pinged out his posts where he phrased it "is THE traitor" instead of "is A traitor" made me think that he was my teammate. I tried to ISO Kovath in order to get people to kill him, but I actually flipped my read on him, and not being sure of my alignment felt it was not a correct lynch to pass. If anyone knows me from previous games, you would know that I go extremely rage mode over the thought of a day one no lynch, however because I strongly was against lynching the other 4 players for reasons mentioned, I felt that following a NU lynch would be potentially lynching my own teammate.
lol at trying to lynch me and having a mafia-mindset at that time

Why is "THE traitor" phrasing important? I agree that it was weird when I first read it, but Mafia doesn't know who the Traitor is and why would he be so obvious about it if he actually thought you were the Traitor?


Now that I KNOW I am town I wonder if Never Unlucky is still mafia, and looking for a traitor that is likely in group 2. If you were all in my pov we would lynch never unlucky today, 4 people would split groups, giving us more lynches. Then we would just go to lynch town on group 2. Jealous/calix/secondpassing are all extremely town this game and superjack had some weird theory that tried to justify my claim. It makes me think superjack is the real mafia in teh group and thought I was the traitor. This means that superjack would be mafia, and one between calix/secondpassing/jealous, which I would have no room where to begin with.
Are you going to ISO NU after all because I have no understanding of what the basis your scumreading NU is coming from other than the interactions thing and that feels shaky to me.

[JealousTL]

So the thing is I just drank 2 red bulls preparing for me to flip mafia today. I originally thought I was town based on the odds and the mafia were randomly organized. Then based on several people's posts I realized my mechanic makes sense If I am put in the 2 scum group. If its me, a mafia, and a traitor three of us five in the group show up as mafia. If I am miss lynched we do not lose the game unless its two regular mafia in the group. 2 mafia in group 2 is the only way I can see my mechanic making sense in the game. If you believe in two mafia in a different group then you should be going against me today as it would have to mean you do not believe me unless you have another crazy theory (no superjack no, cute for trying, but no.)

...

Now that I KNOW I am town I wonder if Never Unlucky is still mafia, and looking for a traitor that is likely in group 2. If you were all in my pov we would lynch never unlucky today, 4 people would split groups, giving us more lynches. Then we would just go to lynch town on group 2. Jealous/calix/secondpassing are all extremely town this game and superjack had some weird theory that tried to justify my claim. It makes me think superjack is the real mafia in teh group and thought I was the traitor. This means that superjack would be mafia, and one between calix/secondpassing/jealous, which I would have no room where to begin with. Kovath hi.
In ¶1 you are saying that you think there must be you, and two scum in group 1. Meaning you are not scum, and there are two scum. Why do you show up as scum along with them?? If you are mislynched, and there are 2 regular mafia in the group, this would go back to the idea that town can lose from 1 mislynch - something we've decided can't be possible, or at least shouldn't have been approved.

I think the only theory that makes sense is that there are 4 mafia - 1 of them is a traitor. Traitor doesn't know that they are mafia until the other mafia in their group gets lynched, because as the setup thread says, traitor does not count as mafia until the mafia in his group dies. That is the only way that a D1 mislynch loss is impossible. Which also means that either you do not factor at all into there being 2 scum in the group, meaning your hypothesis that you are somehow showing up as the third scum in a group with a scum, a traitor, and you is faulty.

Then you continue to say that you find myself, Calix, and secondpassing to be extremely town while claiming that you too are town, (and saying "Fuck," despite it being in line with your "prediction" and statistical analysis at the start of D1). If so, then who are the two scum? SuperJack, and ??? Or, are you claiming that Traitor doesn't know that he is a Traitor?

This is all very messy and I will try to clean up my thoughts on it in a minute.

[JealousTL]

"Traitor doesn't know who the other mafia are** until the other mafia in their group gets lynched, because as the setup thread says, traitor does not count as mafia until the mafia in his group dies. "

Important correction:

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

lol at trying to lynch me and having a mafia-mindset at that time

Why is "THE traitor" phrasing important? I agree that it was weird when I first read it, but Mafia doesn't know who the Traitor is and why would he be so obvious about it if he actually thought you were the Traitor?


Are you going to ISO NU after all because I have no understanding of what the basis your scumreading NU is coming from other than the interactions thing and that feels shaky to me.

I was lynching for the ladder leader board, duh. /s (no /s).

FOr rizzle though, I was trying to lynch you without ISO'ing you because I did not like the train against yuki, and it was a him or you type of thing. I joined the train and pushed it because of your early game questions that felt hollow without follow up (not your fault), but it was better to lynch you than someone I strongly town read who I believed soft claimed bodyguard to be precise. I was actually on the fence about my mindset at this part. Things gingerape said made me feel it was a flip on whether I was town or mafia.

The phrasing seemed like slip to me rather than being obvious, but meh weak point based on how many times I have slipped in previous games.

I told you I did ISO NU right before end of day. However because I was short on time, I was only able to read and not really write down thoughts. I will ISO him today, but it will be more for my last will rather than trying to make a case against him. If group 3 gets chosen(it wont) I will bury him gladly.

It was more than just idolatry of calix, but the way he latches onto her and me this game. Off memory I think there was a post where he responded to comments I made and in one of the later paragraphs his tone did a complete 180 and he responded with something along the lines of fuck you. It rubbed me the wrong way and looked like an overreaction of what a town would feel given my post was very benign.

I am relieved at this point, I feel like a jester in the mod "you breath a sigh of relief" If only I could shoot one of you, I would actually shoot all of you because I hate you all equally.

[Unknown1234]

Hi. Catching up quickly. But the votes should be reset, no?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

In ¶1 you are saying that you think there must be you, and two scum in group 1. Meaning you are not scum, and there are two scum. Why do you show up as scum along with them?? If you are mislynched, and there are 2 regular mafia in the group, this would go back to the idea that town can lose from 1 mislynch - something we've decided can't be possible, or at least shouldn't have been approved.

I think the only theory that makes sense is that there are 4 mafia - 1 of them is a traitor. Traitor doesn't know that they are mafia until the other mafia in their group gets lynched, because as the setup thread says, traitor does not count as mafia until the mafia in his group dies. That is the only way that a D1 mislynch loss is impossible. Which also means that either you do not factor at all into there being 2 scum in the group, meaning your hypothesis that you are somehow showing up as the third scum in a group with a scum, a traitor, and you is faulty.

Then you continue to say that you find myself, Calix, and secondpassing to be extremely town while claiming that you too are town, (and saying "Fuck," despite it being in line with your "prediction" and statistical analysis at the start of D1). If so, then who are the two scum? SuperJack, and ??? Or, are you claiming that Traitor doesn't know that he is a Traitor?

This is all very messy and I will try to clean up my thoughts on it in a minute.

"Fuck" was in relation to seeing a role I was not prepared to play today and getting all caffeine loaded for no good reason other than I wont be able to sleep.

I was posing several theories, but the one I stated I believe HAS to be the world is 2 scum(1 is traitor), me, and two other towns in group 2. (I show up as scum with them because I know I am town now, so a reverse check would show red.) The reason this makes sense to me is that if I am lynched, the game does not end because they have a traitor in the group. The reason I fit into the group is a sheriff cant just check the group and have a 40% chance of getting a mafia and then being bodyguarded and town steam rolling. This way 60% of the time the sheriff gets a hit, but 1/3 time its a town. Quick did not just want us to click our role and to win, which is why I would imagine he added this wacky mechanic that he got from god knows what fucking site.

I mentioned the question of a second scum in your quote. I don't know who I am wrong on. I have the entire day to figure that out, so it's okay.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Hi. Catching up quickly. But the votes should be reset, no?

Yes they should, are you now mattzed (ironic given your smurf name)

Also what do we think of the night kill?

RLVG SHOULD have been protected, making it a risky kill.

Was he killed because he was heavily town read, because he suspected me of scum, or to frame me.

[JealousTL]

DUCK, What do you mean by a reverse check?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

DUCK, What do you mean by a reverse check?

I claimed "miller" a long time ago lol.

[Kovath]

Yes they should, are you now mattzed (ironic given your smurf name)

Also what do we think of the night kill?

RLVG SHOULD have been protected, making it a risky kill.

Was he killed because he was heavily town read, because he suspected me of scum, or to frame me.

I'm not so sure RLVG would have been protected by every slot if they were protective, though I agree that he should have been protected.

As for why he was killed: The other 4 players in the group were all trained in some manner, this also fits in with my belief that NU is the scum.

Killing me would confirm me as town and cast shade on NU; meanwhile, Yuki and Ginger were both extremely viable lynch targets (esp. in comparison to NU) and nearly lynched, thereby making them undesirable as kills.

[Unknown1234]

Yes they should, are you now mattzed (ironic given your smurf name)

Also what do we think of the night kill?

RLVG SHOULD have been protected, making it a risky kill.

Was he killed because he was heavily town read, because he suspected me of scum, or to frame me.

Yea I am MattZed.

"We" ?? I am not surprised. My general reading impression would have me find RLVG the most town. Killing Ginger or Yuki would be a waste even if town. I'll have to look and see if the other two seem more town out of the remaining 3.

That also implies someone could have saved him.

Probably heavy town-read, but I still think that looking at his reads might be a good start on the track.

[Quick]

Hi. Catching up quickly. But the votes should be reset, no?

My bad. Forgot.

[Kovath]

Going to sleep soon, if there are any questions / comments for me need to be in next few minutes.

[Eggy]

@RLVG HAS BEEN NIGHT KILLED! THEY WERE:

CITIZEN




GROUP 1

GROUP 2

GROUP 3



Titus
Shapelog
Unknown1234
Klingoncelt
Alles_Paletti


Calix
JealousTL
SuperJack
PLZLEAVEDUCKK
secondpassing

[TR]

Gingerape
Kovath
Yukitaka Oni
Never Unlucky




End of DP: I: Day 2:
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End of DP: II: Day 2:
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I notice My name was not mentioned instead of Alles_Paletti Im assuming that was a mistake.

[Quick]

I notice My name was not mentioned instead of Alles_Paletti Im assuming that was a mistake.

Fuck. sorry.

[JealousTL]

I claimed "miller" a long time ago lol.

What does reverse check mean? What does it have to do with you being miller?

[Eggy]

Im still reading and will post more on my thoughts of D1 when I am fully caught up. Right now I will respond to certain things from these last two pages and potential cast a vote if I feel like I understand the situation well enough. Alles has also left me with some notes so I will share wtv thoughts of his that might be useful tmrw.

[Eggy]

Fuck. sorry.

No problem buddy Im the newest replacee does not really make a difference im pretty sure everyone knows who I replaced in for anyway.

[Eggy]

Sorry, RLVG. GG

Kinda surprised he got lynched, as he was one of the more townread (or ignored) people in G3. What does everyone make of this push on G3? Subject to WIFOM, but that tells me there are probably 2 scum in G3?

Also, Yuki, why did you say "Will do," when someone said that "investigative roles" should look into specific groups?

He was nightkilled not lynched so it makes sense seeing as he like you said was one of the more townread people of that group. I don think it tells us how many scum are in that group at all, because Im pretty sure scum were only able to chose a nightkill out of someone in G3 so does not mean there are any more scum in G3 than G2 or G1

[Eggy]

I knew RLGV was Town.

Now - who was pushing for his lynch?

I'll be back when the Olympics are done.

How would you "know" he is town? you mean you read him as town? Scum are the only people who "know" someone elses alignment D1 as far as I can tell.

[JealousTL]

He was nightkilled not lynched so it makes sense seeing as he like you said was one of the more townread people of that group. I don think it tells us how many scum are in that group at all, because Im pretty sure scum were only able to chose a nightkill out of someone in G3 so does not mean there are any more scum in G3 than G2 or G1

You're right, the rule wasn't exactly clear (in the setup thread it said "Mafia can only lynch from G3" instead of "kill" [a mistake I also made in that same quote]), but Quick did clarify it to be clear before N1. Thanks.

[Quick]

You're right, the rule wasn't exactly clear (in the setup thread it said "Mafia can only lynch from G3" instead of "kill" [a mistake I also made in that same quote]), but Quick did clarify it to be clear before N1. Thanks.

I am apparently making blunders all over the place.. Yes, Mafia do not have a special lynch mechanic in their votes, that would not be what the hidden mechanics are. Mafia can only NK from the group that was chosen the previous day. As such, if no group is chosen, then Mafia can NK anyone from any group and as soon as the timer is up for DP:I the day is over if a majority isn't chosen.

[JealousTL]

I am apparently making blunders all over the place.. Yes, Mafia do not have a special lynch mechanic in their votes, that would not be what the hidden mechanics are. Mafia can only NK from the group that was chosen the previous day. As such, if no group is chosen, then Mafia can NK anyone from any group and as soon as the timer is up for DP:I the day is over if a majority isn't chosen.

Oh shit.

[Eggy]

Why you reveal my plan v)o.o)>?!?!? I hate you ^(o.o(^!

Thoughts on this? does this seem sincere?

[Eggy]

I am apparently making blunders all over the place.. Yes, Mafia do not have a special lynch mechanic in their votes, that would not be what the hidden mechanics are. Mafia can only NK from the group that was chosen the previous day. As such, if no group is chosen, then Mafia can NK anyone from any group and as soon as the timer is up for DP:I the day is over if a majority isn't chosen.

I understood everything if it means anything to you :) ahah

[Eggy]

?????????????????

Yea wtf is PLZ talking about?? is he saying he doesnt know he own role/alignment? seems very strange either a mix up or a downright lie.

[Eggy]

And RLVG no last will, lol?

Guess he didnt think he was going to die. I've never written a last will in my life lol.

[Eggy]

he left no last will.

Last wills must be in your QuickTopic.

Does everyone have a quicktopic? ive never seen one before this game?

[Yukitaka Oni]

Guess he didnt think he was going to die. I've never written a last will in my life lol.
Well time to write it down boyzzzz v(o.o(<

[Eggy]

So the thing is I just drank 2 red bulls preparing for me to flip mafia today. I originally thought I was town based on the odds and the mafia were randomly organized. Then based on several people's posts I realized my mechanic makes sense If I am put in the 2 scum group. If its me, a mafia, and a traitor three of us five in the group show up as mafia. If I am miss lynched we do not lose the game unless its two regular mafia in the group. 2 mafia in group 2 is the only way I can see my mechanic making sense in the game. If you believe in two mafia in a different group then you should be going against me today as it would have to mean you do not believe me unless you have another crazy theory (no superjack no, cute for trying, but no.)

Sorry for taking Yuki's question, very bad habit I have.

Towards EOD I was starting to get the feeling I might actually be mafia. The way Never Unlucky was interacting with me the whole game and when I pinged out his posts where he phrased it "is THE traitor" instead of "is A traitor" made me think that he was my teammate. I tried to ISO Kovath in order to get people to kill him, but I actually flipped my read on him, and not being sure of my alignment felt it was not a correct lynch to pass. If anyone knows me from previous games, you would know that I go extremely rage mode over the thought of a day one no lynch, however because I strongly was against lynching the other 4 players for reasons mentioned, I felt that following a NU lynch would be potentially lynching my own teammate.

Now that I KNOW I am town I wonder if Never Unlucky is still mafia, and looking for a traitor that is likely in group 2. If you were all in my pov we would lynch never unlucky today, 4 people would split groups, giving us more lynches. Then we would just go to lynch town on group 2. Jealous/calix/secondpassing are all extremely town this game and superjack had some weird theory that tried to justify my claim. It makes me think superjack is the real mafia in teh group and thought I was the traitor. This means that superjack would be mafia, and one between calix/secondpassing/jealous, which I would have no room where to begin with.

Now I realize we are not living in Duck's POV, and I came prepared to battle as mafia. I am not sure I want to deal with arguing a bunch of TvT's and some TvS's and waste a day on my miss lynch that results in town gaining no information. If town is planning on spending a large portion of today focusing on me I would ask that we just agree that I am the lynch early on and just ignore what my alignment could or could not be. I will accept being the lynch today, but I want to be able to use today to fix my read list so that town can go on to win the game. The mechanic is beyond retarded, and the only way I will be able to convince some of you that it is real is by my flip. In all of my FM games I HAVE PERFECT TOWN CIRCLES. Absolutely perfect town circles from day 2 onwards, (only non town to ever be in my town circle from mid-end of day2 onwards is Mattzed qt.314).

I feel I am close to solving this game, but I need more time to reevaluate on group 2 because I am wrong on probably one of them, and group 1 has been useless ( the no posting in particular). Also, before we get the "duck is saying to lynch him, so we don't lynch him", think what you want, but the only thing I hate more than being lynched is people not listening, and losing.

Also when I started typing I saw kovath so hope hes still here Kovath hi.

I dont understand what you are talking about for the most part. Why on earth do you expect that you are the traitor? if you are the traitor is it not in your best interest for mafia to win? why would you be actively going against your win condition? and lastly doesnt know one know who the traitor is including the mafia and the traitor themself? doesnt that mean there is no way anyone could possibly know they are the traitor until they find out from all the scum being killed?

[Eggy]

Yes they should, are you now mattzed (ironic given your smurf name)

Also what do we think of the night kill?

RLVG SHOULD have been protected, making it a risky kill.

Was he killed because he was heavily town read, because he suspected me of scum, or to frame me.

Ill think of something to answer this once I know what went on D1(after I finish catching up) I know this question was directed to unknown but I find what your saying in general particularly interesting.

[Eggy]

This. Red or green check should be outed today. Although if they have a green check, maybe they want to hold off if they are in a scummy position that wont be night killed because the fact RLVG died should indicate there was no bodyguard in the game.

I also want to say dont be a donkey and just flat out claim, wait for interactions or you are wasting information potential.

very possible the bodyguard missed used his block. or that he didnt even use his/her night action. I did tht once in insanity lol

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I won't be posting for awhile so that I am able to read people off their interactions with others rather than with me given the obvious bias that will be forced with this set up.

I want to note real quick that eggy is likely town. The fact is he commenting on recent events without ANY knowledge of what happened on day 1 would be beyond idiotic for a mafia to do. Possible? Yes. Probable? No. Always time to see though. Looks like a town trying to get a grasp of what the fuck is going on. Anyways tootles. If anyone has anything really important they want me to answer or if I feel the need to chime in I will be around as always ~.

[Quick]

Does everyone have a quicktopic? ive never seen one before this game?

Yes, EVERYONE has a QuickTopic that is playing this game and I need further questions about those types of things in the QuickTopic I linked to you.

[Eggy]

In ¶1 you are saying that you think there must be you, and two scum in group 1. Meaning you are not scum, and there are two scum. Why do you show up as scum along with them?? If you are mislynched, and there are 2 regular mafia in the group, this would go back to the idea that town can lose from 1 mislynch - something we've decided can't be possible, or at least shouldn't have been approved.

I think the only theory that makes sense is that there are 4 mafia - 1 of them is a traitor. Traitor doesn't know that they are mafia until the other mafia in their group gets lynched, because as the setup thread says, traitor does not count as mafia until the mafia in his group dies. That is the only way that a D1 mislynch loss is impossible. Which also means that either you do not factor at all into there being 2 scum in the group, meaning your hypothesis that you are somehow showing up as the third scum in a group with a scum, a traitor, and you is faulty.

Then you continue to say that you find myself, Calix, and secondpassing to be extremely town while claiming that you too are town, (and saying "Fuck," despite it being in line with your "prediction" and statistical analysis at the start of D1). If so, then who are the two scum? SuperJack, and ??? Or, are you claiming that Traitor doesn't know that he is a Traitor?

This is all very messy and I will try to clean up my thoughts on it in a minute.

This is very good. town read on Jealous maybe someone else said it before but this makes so much sense to me. Only 3 scum and one traitor one in each group, only way that seems balanced

[Eggy]

Yes, EVERYONE has a QuickTopic that is playing this game and I need further questions about those types of things in the QuickTopic I linked to you.

Okay sorry sounds good will do from now on

[Eggy]

"Traitor doesn't know who the other mafia are** until the other mafia in their group gets lynched, because as the setup thread says, traitor does not count as mafia until the mafia in his group dies. "

Important correction:

oops thought it was all 3 who had to die. That makes more sense though, thanks for clearing that up.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

Well eggy just got confirmed as town :P lol

[JealousTL]

What does reverse check mean? What does it have to do with you being miller?

@DUCK, please.

[Titus]

Group 3

After a quick review of the evidence, Never Unlucky is scum.

I do apologize but I am indeed taking round 1 of this challenge.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

@DUCK, please.

If I am checked at night I will show up as mafia. Had I been mafia I would have shown up as town.

[Klingoncelt]

What if I told you my neighbor is the greatest Olympian of all time? Things getting pretty srs up in here.

It's possible that the greatest Olympian of all time lives next to you.

Everybody's gotta be somewhere.

[JealousTL]

If I am checked at night I will show up as mafia. Had I been mafia I would have shown up as town.

... Why? I don't see that anywhere in the setup.

[Titus]

... Why? I don't see that anywhere in the setup.

Hidden mechanic.

Trust me today and lynch Never Unlucky. Dude is scum.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

It's possible that the greatest Olympian of all time lives next to you.

Everybody's gotta be somewhere.

#muurland
Titus you visited somewhere on the east coast recently right? soft shelled crabs or crabcakes?

[Klingoncelt]

"Fuck" was in relation to seeing a role I was not prepared to play today and getting all caffeine loaded for no good reason other than I wont be able to sleep.

I was posing several theories, but the one I stated I believe HAS to be the world is 2 scum(1 is traitor), me, and two other towns in group 2. (I show up as scum with them because I know I am town now, so a reverse check would show red.) The reason this makes sense to me is that if I am lynched, the game does not end because they have a traitor in the group. The reason I fit into the group is a sheriff cant just check the group and have a 40% chance of getting a mafia and then being bodyguarded and town steam rolling. This way 60% of the time the sheriff gets a hit, but 1/3 time its a town. Quick did not just want us to click our role and to win, which is why I would imagine he added this wacky mechanic that he got from god knows what fucking site.

I mentioned the question of a second scum in your quote. I don't know who I am wrong on. I have the entire day to figure that out, so it's okay.


ermahgawd, let's just vote Group 2, lynch Duck, and get on with the game, please?


Group 2

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[Klingoncelt]

I claimed "miller" a long time ago lol.

There's no Miller in the setup.

[Titus]

#muurland
Titus you visited somewhere on the east coast recently right? soft shelled crabs or crabcakes?

I don't really eat seafood but there's good money in operating a lighthouse to show the fishermen where to throw nets.

[Titus]

Klingon, I am calling the sheep time. NU dies today. Not a policy lynch.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

group 3

[Yukitaka Oni]

Guy, guy, guy
Why the fk are you guy wprry about traitor? Traitor didn't even know their mafia scum teammate, so basically the traitor is like a scumbag role right now. Even not on the town side, but not on the mafia side. The traitor will have no choice but to lynch blindly, sheeping vote. Why not focus on mafia instead? We didn't even kill one of them yet? The traitor can't even join mafia if we didn't even narrow down one mafia!

[secondpassing]

Uh. My brain is tired.
Just gonna say I want Never Unlucky lynched like yesterday.

[Titus]

So sleepy will case NU tomorrow but he is da lynch.

[secondpassing]

I'm liking DUCKK let's not lynch him. I could go for a SuperJack lynch too. Prefer Group 3 for NU though.

[Titus]

Uh. My brain is tired.
Just gonna say I want Never Unlucky lynched like yesterday.

Can you vote Group 3 and case him? You have like 3 sheeps. Me Duck and prolly Klingon.

[secondpassing]

Klingoncelt, we know you don't write wall posts, but do you also refuse to read them?

[secondpassing]

Can you vote Group 3 and case him? You have like 3 sheeps. Me Duck and prolly Klingon.
I've already cased him yesterday. I wanna go to sleep.

[secondpassing]

JealousTL I do not understand why you ask them same question like 2/3 times. The answer is yes.

[Titus]

I've already cased him yesterday. I wanna go to sleep.

Can you just quote it?

[Titus]

Add in Never Unlucky not calling me scum until I suspected him, his passive attitude and general weirdness, dude is scum. Why do good giffers have to be scum?

[Klingoncelt]

How would you "know" he is town? you mean you read him as town? Scum are the only people who "know" someone elses alignment D1 as far as I can tell.

Don't get your hopes up, that wasn't a slip, I'm Town.

He was a very solid Townread.

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I'm liking DUCKK let's not lynch him. I could go for a SuperJack lynch too. Prefer Group 3 for NU though.

Pump the fucking brakes. You were all "omg is duck pocketing me"(when i was defending yuki??) and now you are setting up a potential pocket on me. What made you flip your scum read on me when I have made like 4 content posts that can be read as AI. Don't even tell me its because of my being against NU because mafia will scum read their own teammates.

[JealousTL]

I'm currently trying to battle the impression I'm getting of a DUCK/Titus/Yuki/secondpassing scumteam that these past few pages have given me -___-;

[secondpassing]

Pump the fucking brakes. You were all "omg is duck pocketing me"(when i was defending yuki??) and now you are setting up a potential pocket on me. What made you flip your scum read on me when I have made like 4 content posts that can be read as AI. Don't even tell me its because of my being against NU because mafia will scum read their own teammates.
In my other hand holds a Ducky.

You can think whatever you want. My brain is dead right now. As long as NU and SuperJack die its cool.

[Klingoncelt]

Yea wtf is PLZ talking about?? is he saying he doesnt know he own role/alignment? seems very strange either a mix up or a downright lie.

He's been doing this shit the whole game, talking about himself, his alignment, and possible game mechanics surrounding his possible role/alignment.

Little to no Scum hunting, lots of distracting.

[Titus]

I'm currently trying to battle the impression I'm getting of a DUCK/Titus/Yuki/secondpassing scumteam that these past few pages have given me -___-;

Dude are you having a terrible game or are scum?

Do you think NU is town?

[PLZLEAVEDUCKK]

I'm currently trying to battle the impression I'm getting of a DUCK/Titus/Yuki/secondpassing scumteam that these past few pages have given me -___-;

.. that awkward moment when your mafia list consists of all towns...

[Titus]

I am thinking Yuki/Jealous/NU

[Klingoncelt]

Group 3

After a quick review of the evidence, Never Unlucky is scum.

I do apologize but I am indeed taking round 1 of this challenge.

Looks like Titus has a code in that second sentence.

Scum?

[secondpassing]

Looks like Titus has a code in that second sentence.

Scum?
Yes?